My next phone will defo be one of those, though solid details on both are scarce if existent at all.....
I really hope the 3gb ram rumours are true.
If there is finally no lag on touch wiz with note 3 I'll go there if not then nexus 5 steals my cash.
Right now feeling the pinch of UK s3 limit of 1gb ram, but still loving my first taste of android even a year later, my second phone the iPhone 4s only gets a look in when I need a separate business phone or this battery is low.
Originally intended to get a windows 8 lumia but they hadn't been released and ICS/jelly bean had ensured that I haven't regretted it
Which of the two do you anticipate more and why?
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Note 3 for sure. Note 2 is my favorite phone ever, it's only right that I get it's successor.
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Actually, most of the Note 3's specs were leaked today: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/06/09...ra-ii-and-galaxy-s4-lte-advanced-coming-soon/
Note 3, without question.
Wow crazy... If it gets 3gb ram too that thing is taking over my life! Wedding is off, she can find a new man, just leave me to my note 3, take the iPad if you want...
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I like nuxus but i don't have money
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I have the original Galaxy Note and have loved it (came from a Galaxy SII). I've been wanting to get the Note 2 for the past few months and not sure I'll be able to hold out since I'm getting antsy for a new phone. If i can somehow suppress my impulse to buy the Note 2, I will be anxiously awaiting the release of the Note 3...after all, we're only talking a matter of 4 months or so..right? :fingers-crossed:
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I have the original Galaxy Note and have loved it (came from a Galaxy SII). I've been wanting to get the Note 2 for the past few months and not sure I'll be able to hold out since I'm getting antsy for a new phone. If i can somehow suppress my impulse to buy the Note 2, I will be anxiously awaiting the release of the Note 3...after all, we're only talking a matter of 4 months or so..right? :fingers-crossed:
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Note 3!!! Doing my best to hold out on upgrading my GS3 to the GS4 in hopes of the Note 3
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I have the original Galaxy Note and have loved it (came from a Galaxy SII). I've been wanting to get the Note 2 for the past few months and not sure I'll be able to hold out since I'm getting antsy for a new phone. If i can somehow suppress my impulse to buy the Note 2, I will be anxiously awaiting the release of the Note 3...after all, we're only talking a matter of 4 months or so..right? :fingers-crossed:
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Wait for 3, seriously. It'll be worth it.
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I want the Note3 but, by the time I can upgrade it will new old news. So... what's next.
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Apart from the slightly bigger screen there is not a great deal more to get excited about the Note 3. 13 MP? Irrelevant. Worst : it is actually detrimental to imagine quality in such tiny sensors. FHD? What for? Now, if they improve the sunlight legibility of the screen which is IMO one of the drawbacks of the current screen, that might make me think twice.
I also have my eyes on the upcoming Xperia Z Ultra. Looks like a real contender to the Note 3 although I'm afraid it is just too big.
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Apart from the slightly bigger screen there is not a great deal more to get excited about the Note 3. 13 MP? Irrelevant. Worst : it is actually detrimental to imagine quality in such tiny sensors. FHD? What for? Now, if they improve the sunlight legibility of the screen which is IMO one of the drawbacks of the current screen, that might make me think twice.
I also have my eyes on the upcoming Xperia Z Ultra. Looks like a real contender to the Note 3 although I'm afraid it is just too big.
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FHD Why? Well, because some of us DO see the difference. I don't want anything below 1080 ever again.
Oh, I don't know. The 3GB RAM maybe? Or maybe the fact it's either going to be a Snapdragon 800 or an Exynos Octa?
The camera I don't give a sh*t about. I carry my DSLR everywhere anyway.
With higher density displays you do see a better quality even if you can't see any more individual pixels - the more pixels making up the smallest visible "particle" the more detail and colour clarity you will experience, it's like cd vs a brand new vinyl, the vinyl records lots of frequencies that the human ear can't pick up while the CD is limit to the human spectrum, yet vinyls on a good system that have not worn out the tracts yet have a much warmer palette of sounds, the insensible waves have an effect on the sensible and the same happens with screens, if you play a 4k video on a 1000ppi screen theoretically you'd see a far better image than on a 1020 440 ppi which is visibly better than on a 720 on a 326ppi which is considered roughly retina. Don't let apple brainwash you into thinking that retina is the best you can get, it's clear yes, but it can look nicer than our already amazing top end screens do.
Usually the difference isn't noticeable instantly, but when you try to go back to the lower quality you notice the difference, try looking at an old android device from 2010 or an iPhone 3gs... Blurry as hell but at the time I couldn't imagine a better screen.
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So I have an iPhone 4S right now.
Long story short, I switched from iPhone 4 to Droid X2. Hated how sluggish the X2 was but LOVED the openness of Android. And returned it and switched to the 4S when it arrived.
I love the look of Ice Cream Sandwich and every preview shows it running incredibly smoothly. It felt as though Android was in beta before ICS, and that it's finally moved into Gold product stage.
I'm dying waiting for the Nexus and mainly want it because it will have Ice Cream Sandwich.
My question is, should I just get the Galaxy S II or should I wait another few weeks for the Nexus? I don't care that much about 4G LTE. I DO want ICS. I've been reading the forums and it seems the S II is closing to get an ICS ROM that's fully functional.
What does everyone think? Get the S II today or wait a few more weeks for the Nexus?
2 days ago I would have said get the SII. But as full reviews are coming out now, I would definitely wait for the Nexus. Other than ICS, it is reviewed as an all around better phone (minus the camera, which is better on the SII). I do not own an SII, but you are going to get some disgustingly bias comments from people who do. Like I said, I am basing this off of reviews from reputable sites.
Thanks!
I'm very tempted by the Nexus (and the reviews are awesome!) I just have no idea when it's going to arrive. This month? December 8?
I'm very tempted by the S II because I'm hearing it runs pretty much as well as the Nexus, ICS is almost ready to be released (through ROMs, I'm sure the "official" release is a ways away), and it's cheaper.
Tough decision. I'm tired of iOS though and want to move on to a grown up OS. I just don't want to keep waiting. Argh.
Yes I'm bias I own an SGS2 but just check the specs out, lower spec camera, amoled not amoled+, no guerilla glass! The only real plus the Nexus Galaxy has is vanilla ICS and the SGS2 will have ICS soon enough whether it be Sammy ICS or custom ROM ICS.
Look at the price difference for lower specs, are you willing to pay that much more just to have ICS early??
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Yes I'm bias I own an SGS2 but just check the specs out, lower spec camera, amoled not amoled+, no guerilla glass! The only real plus the Nexus Galaxy has is vanilla ICS and the SGS2 will have ICS soon enough whether it be Sammy ICS or custom ROM ICS.
Look at the price difference for lower specs, are you willing to pay that much more just to have ICS early??
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Better hardware, better software, better CPU, and I will quote the part about the display
"The other significant thing about the screen is its resolution. It’s a 720p HD Super AMOLED panel (full resolution 1280x720), similar to the display on the Samsung Galaxy Note. And just as we said in our review of that phone, this is about as good as it gets in terms of display technology on a portable device."
The only thing lower spec is the camera...this is a developer phone, who cares about the camera.
SGSII is better. The processor in the Galaxy Nexus is not as good as the ones in the world SGS2 or the Epic Touch. The only thing this phone has really is the higher resolution screen. Tit for tat it's ok, but not ground-breaking.
Why 5MP camera on a higher res than throwing in a better 8MP camera like the one on the SGS2
Plus the hype about the phone, and the true specs were a let down just to be able to run ICS. And as far as vanilla android all of the other makers have the ability to run stock android with out the company's UI.
I have used a Galaxy Nexus and the only thing I liked was the incredible screen. The rest was crap...including ICS.
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Hey, I am just going off of reviews from well known sites THAT HAVE TRIED BOTH PHONES! Until someone else chimes in that has in fact used both phones for more than 24 hours, your argument holds no ground. I have taken probably a total of 15 pictures with my phone in the past year, so I could really care less about the camera..
More reasons not to go with the Nexus, 16gb USB storage and NO SD card expansion.
No flash until Adobe support it later in the year!?!
And I meant SAMOLED and SAMOLED+.
FreeYourAndroid - Galaxy Nexus vs. SGS2: Camera Comparison - http://freeyourandroid.com/viewnews.php?fya=54932841321744858
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The question for me, I guess, is how close are we to having a working custom ICS rom for the S II? I like the specs of the S II better, and would prefer the smaller screen - I think 4.65" is pretty big.
I just want to be able to have ICS and not have to wait months and months for the Samsung official update with everything skinned. I want Vanilla android or something close to it, but would love it on the S II.
Interesting thread !
Since I keep questionning myself about the very same question at the moment, I'm constantly doing prons and cons game
Here is my observations so far :
Screen
Galaxy S II : smaller screen (4.3") but S-Amoled Plus and Gorilla Glass. No waste of screen since it got hardware buttons
Galaxy Nexus : bigger (4.6") not "plus" but more DPI and 720p, everyone accords to qualify it to sharper. Good for visioning (films etc)
CPU / GPU
Since the two got the same CPU (Cortex A9 dual core), let's take a look a the GPU
SGS2 : Mali 400Mp, strong for graphic features
SGN : PowerVR SGX540, not so good with graphic features
Here is a beanchmark comparison : http://www.anandtech.com/show/5133/galaxy-nexus-ice-cream-sandwich-initial-performance
The choice of Google seems to go for user experience (general use, browsing etc). I don't think le GN is tailored to be a gaming beast for example
Hardware
The SGN doesn't have any micro-SD slot and can't do mass storage out of the box (but XDA dev are here for sure ), it's a Google choice to unify the storage : http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...behind-galaxy-nexus-lack-of-usb-mass-storage/
No notification LED for the SGS2 but got the jack above
Camera is better on SGS2 but since the captor on a mobile phone are not very good ... Can we really see a difference ?
So ?
So the choice is yours
The 2 devices are great, it really depends what you are seeking for
I don't speak about ICS since everyone here know it will come to the SGS2 soon
If you want a device for gaming, I say go for the SGS2
If you want a new device and a good big beautifull screen, pick the SGN
What do you think ?
EDIT : a usefull link to compare the 2 : http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=4219
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The question for me, I guess, is how close are we to having a working custom ICS rom for the S II? I like the specs of the S II better, and would prefer the smaller screen - I think 4.65" is pretty big.
I just want to be able to have ICS and not have to wait months and months for the Samsung official update with everything skinned. I want Vanilla android or something close to it, but would love it on the S II.
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The 4.65 inch screen is a little misleading. Since there are no hardware buttons, the bottom part of the screen is dedicated for this. With that part of the screen gone, it is comparable to 4.3".
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The 4.65 inch screen is a little misleading. Since there are no hardware buttons, the bottom part of the screen is dedicated for this. With that part of the screen gone, it is comparable to 4.3".
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Yeah but the on screen buttons are hidden when you got a full screen app (videos, games, apps developpers set to fullscreen) so you got a real 4.65" screen for that
some food for thoughts about the Galaxy Nexus http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362556
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some food for thoughts about the Galaxy Nexus http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362556
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Yea, quite a bit of issues. But it is to be expected with a newly released phone, and the SGSII has many of the same issues. One note about the volume bug issue (which I hear is the most predominent issue). That would not affect users in the United States. It only happens on an Edge network running a certain frequency that is not supported here.
Get it
As a person who went through this, then thought screw it, I'll take the leap.
GET THE NEXUS
It is an amazing phone and in my opinion equally to the SGSII better taken into account the software.
My main point was- I don't like the SII I much prefer the look and shape of the Nexus.
However the main plus point is the Camera and stock android.
No lag at all with the camera and no crappy touchwiz meaning that you don't HAVE to root to get rid of it.
Google nexus won´t have ICS, SG S II yes.
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Google nexus won´t have ICS, SG S II yes.
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Hey guys, I'm getting a new phone in August when my contract dies. My current phone is a stock Nexus S running Jellybean. I'm trying to decide between getting the HTC One S, or the Samsung Galaxy S III. Both are priced at $400 on a 2-year contract with Virgin mobile, and I'm completely stuck on making my decision. With the One S, have any of you had considerable problems or issues with it? Would you get an SIII if you could? I believe that each of these phones are evenly matched, and each have their strengths and their weaknesses. I'm a fan of HTC Sense 4.0, and i like the overall build quality of the One S, but the S III has more ram, a removable battery and expandable memory. The HTC One X is not available with Virgin mobile, so I cannot get the HTC equivalent of the S III. Which would you recommend?
Thanks
Well. That depends. If you love trying new ROMs/kernels on your device, the s3 is going to be better in the long run. Not that the one s lacks a healthy dev community. We have many great devs with awesome Roms but the s3 has more people on board.
On the other hand, I found the one s more stylish and I like Sense 4 better.
Personally, I have no issues with my One S and with HTC promising a JB update, we know that, hopefully, all software related issues will be squished. You could look around for some common issues but nothing serious IMO but YMMV.
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Get he gs 3 and the free 50gbs of storage on dropbox. Return it and be happier with the one s and get another 25gbs of drop box for free. And keep the one s with 75gbs of storage space
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Get he gs 3 and the free 50gbs of storage on dropbox. Return it and be happier with the one s and get another 25gbs of drop box for free. And keep the one s with 75gbs of storage space
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I only get 2gb
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I only get 2gb
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then you prolly didnt complete the steps to get the 25 gb. you should have gotten an email when you registered for DB or signed in which told you how to get the 25 gb.
as for your q, im more than happy with the one s. The screen is the perfect size whereas i believe the SG3 has a screen thats too big to be comfortable. Maybe if you have big hand its ok lol. The only drawback i suppose would be the 16 gb storage, but using DB and google play music, that isn't really an issue. in the end though, it all comes down to your choice. Both are amazing phones
HTC One S was my choice. I prefer Sense 4.0 over Samsung's skin as well as I think HTC is doing better with updates than Sammy.
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Get he gs 3 and the free 50gbs of storage on dropbox. Return it and be happier with the one s and get another 25gbs of drop box for free. And keep the one s with 75gbs of storage space
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I like when the face matches the words.
You know it...
Thanks guys, also, how's the display on the one s? Its a pentile which means it could be a little jagged but my Nexus S has one and I really don't find it that bad.
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Display is great, obviously not as sharp as the gs 3 and x and has less screen real estate due to the 720p res that the x and gs 3 have.
I'll let anandtech finish it off
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
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Display is great, obviously not as sharp as the gs 3 and x and has less screen real estate due to the 720p res that the x and gs 3 have.
I'll let anandtech finish it off
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The One S does not have 720 dude, it has qhd. I have owned both devices and the GS3 is miles ahead of the One S
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The One S does not have 720 dude, it has qhd. I have owned both devices and the GS3 is miles ahead of the One S
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emmm, I didn't say that the S has 720p res.
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Display is great, obviously not as sharp as the gs 3 and x and has less screen real estate due to the 720p res that the x and gs 3 have.
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And of course you would expect the display of a device that costs about £130 more to be better.
the galaxy s3 is not miles ahead of the one s. I had it. Glad I got my money back. Its nice but it is way too big and feels like a kids toy.
I found myself in same position 3 weeks ago, and I struggled for weeks researching my choices between one s and s3. All my friends got s3 so I had a good chance to try it.
Though what s3 does is impressive as far as speed and memory goes, it seriously lags in look & feel and coolness factor. It feels like lugging around a tablet than phone and it barely fits in pocket.
Compare that to one s, which I finally ended up getting which is incredibly fast, memory though less never been a hindrance. I had 10gigs available after all system programs which I believe is plentiful when added with the online storage options.
Sure s3 beats one s in all test scores but one s Screen is unbelievable, phone is sleek and stylish and you can still reach around with one hand and fits in your pocket. Camera will put your point and shoot cameras to rest and I cannot be more happy.
And battery life is great too. I got a about 12 hours on moderate use even with couple of camera flashes and I still have 20% left.
Ultimately think of the long term impacts of having a tablet for a phone for next 2 years just because it is fast and more memory, vs. having a sleek, handy pocket able phone which is still fast with decent amount of memory.
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Does Adobe Flash still work on both devices?
gs3 = hot and plastic
main reason i switched from gs2 to one s
i tried the gs3 its just gets hot when using the phone
Actually the GS 3 doesn't even beat the S in all of the benchmark tests (both the quad and S4 version), yes the res. does have an impact but then the XL has the same hardware but also 720P res. and it still beats the GS 3 in the majority of tests.
The GS 3 international version only beats both in the tests, which uses the GPU such as quadrant etc. as the GPU is far better than the adreno 225.
Only areas that the GS 3 is better is:
screen
1080P recording
storage/SD slot
removable battery
bigger developing community
Everything else is more or less same or better on the S (IMO):
- camera is more or less the same (some photos look better on the GS 3, others look better on the S), however, the UI is better than touchwiz alternative and has way more features, which are actually cool and make taking photos more enjoyable.
- Speed/smoothness is more or less the same, only reason the GS 3 appears to be smoother is due to the animations/timing that is used, could achieve the same if you flashed those animations and had the exact same timings, besides were getting JB soon hopefully so there will be virtually no difference then (on any of the phones)
- audio is more or less the same (some say the GS 3 is better, others say the S is better)
- out of the box battery life is better (to be expected considering the S has a smaller battery and is only qHD), not by a huge amount though, however, with the GS 3 you can carry spare batteries around with you
- sense V4 is far far better in looks/UI, unified feel, the stock apps are amazing such as the gallery, calendar etc. touchwiz has loads of gestures and some cool features (but the majority of these are being ported over to every other android phone, such as the smart stay feature (iseeyou, works great on my S), Svoice, smart status bar (can drag the notification bar down when in an app full screen) etc. only a matter of time till we get things that like smart alert etc. The same can't be said with sense app/features though. IMO touchwiz is too bloated and no real unified feel across the apps/menus etc. everything just looks disorganized and the colour scheme is too kiddish/cartoonish
- and lastly the build/perceived quality of the S is miles ahead of the GS 3 and IMO looks far better compared to the GS 3 (subjective the looks though)
Do you want a phone that fits in your trouser pocket?
Get the One S
Are you a basketball player with huge hands?
Get the One X or Galaxy S3
Want to watch lots of movies?
Get a tablet.
Phones are getting far too big these days. Unfortunately there are no top spec 4" phones, so I got the One S. It's still in the mail so I can't really review it further. Manufacturers really need to learn from apple here, make it pocket sized for f&# sake. Also half the market is female and even being an average size male I find the latest phones too large.
There are some things that suck on the One S though: No MicroSD , Stupid capacitive buttons, at least samsung always have one proper button, sense UI looks like tacky plastic ****.
If you do get one s make sure it's not the old snapdragon S3 SoC which has worse battery life.
I whole heartedly agree with the above. I'm 6'0 healthy 225 pounds guy that thought the beastly oversized gs3 would fit me. I was wrong. That thing is just way to big. I found one handed operations almost impossible. The display isn't that great either, not for the price. Plus I had a amoled smear that looked like a smiley face smack in the center of the screen. The one s that uses Samsung amoled displays shows no sign of such things.
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Only areas that the GS 3 is better is:
screen
1080P recording
storage/SD slot
removable battery
bigger developing community
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We have 1080p recording.
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We have 1080p recording.
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Yeah I know
But the GS 3 is far better for light metering and smoothness and slightly better quality as well.
My infuse has pissed me off enough and I'm looking to upgrade ASAP. I was looking at the note 2, but then I realized the ONLY upgrades are quad core and 2GB of RAM. Almost everything else is DOWNGRADED. Did samsung have pothead 12-year-olds on the dev team for this one?
Note: If you're going to read past this point you're not allowed to comment on how much I hate my Infuse. You live your life, I'll live mine, k?
I guess my question is should I just get the original note since it'll be much cheaper once they release the note 2, and I don't need a quad core?
I would get the note 2 if I wanted to but I don't want to kinda because when samsung does crap like this:
Development dies quickly
Nobody buys it
It ends up like the Infuse with the best xda devs quickly leaving for real devices designed by people that clearly understand what they're doing
When it loses xda dev support, it starts pissing me off like the infuse does
The original note would be a very good choice. It seems several people have used upgrades for the SGS3 and are very pleased. I have the international (quad core) SGS3 and will be keeping it for quite sometime.
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My infuse has pissed me off enough and I'm looking to upgrade ASAP. I was looking at the note 2, but then I realized the ONLY upgrades are quad core and 2GB of RAM. Almost everything else is DOWNGRADED. Did samsung have pothead 12-year-olds on the dev team for this one?
Note: If you're going to read past this point you're not allowed to comment on how much I hate my Infuse. You live your life, I'll live mine, k?
I guess my question is should I just get the original note since it'll be much cheaper once they release the note 2, and I don't need a quad core?
I would get the note 2 if I wanted to but I don't want to kinda because when samsung does crap like this:
Development dies quickly
Nobody buys it
It ends up like the Infuse with the best xda devs quickly leaving for real devices designed by people that clearly understand what they're doing
When it loses xda dev support, it starts pissing me off like the infuse does
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What about the note 2 is a downgrade? Haven't really looked at the two in depth...but by a quick Google search it appears the only downgrade is that the note 2 has a 720x1280 resolution vs note 1 800x1280 resolution... but this is kinda expected when increasing screen size
Besides that most things seem the same or better...mainly the CPU and RAM
I don't see the note 2 being like the infuse because the note 1 was a huge success and still has a thriving dev community with some of the best devas
Plus being one of the first quad core, 2gb RAM, lte phones for Att...you can be sure it will attract the devs...only thing I can see making them leave the note 2 in the future would be for the sgs4...when ever that comes out
If you don't care about CPU and ram then don't get the note 2...stick with the note 1
But if your so concerned about dev community, why would you get a predecessor? Where the logic in that? Any of the big devs of the note will likely jump ship for the note 2...
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2MP FF cam > 1.9mp
16:10 to 16:9
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PPI is down something like 20...
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2MP FF cam > 1.9mp
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pulled an iphone 5 with the lengthening.
PPI is down something like 20...
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.1mp is not much of a difference and likely won't be noticed (personally I rarely use the front cam anyways...)
I like 16:9 better then 16:10 anyways...it better for videos since that's what most HD videos are set to
PPI, again 20 isn't much...and likely won't be a noticeable difference
I personally would choose the note 2 over the note 1...but it really all comes down to personal preference
But still...you kinda make a big deal about dev life, so there is still no logic in choosing a predecessor over a new device if you want the best a good dev scene -as I said earlier...a lot of the note 1 devs will likely jump ship to the note 2
But again...all personal preference
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I'll see what happens to the price of note #1 after #2 has been out for a day or two. If it goes to like $100 or $50 I'll definitely skip over the $300 PoS with $10 worth of hardware difference.
I'll be upgrading to the note II as well. I don't think you've done enough research if you are saying everything is a downgrade.. What exactly is a downgrade? In regards to decreased screen resolution, the subPPI went up and the screen is no longer RGBG. The US Note II's are also getting Exynos + LTE... Its also skinnier than the original note which isn't a bad thing.. IMO at least.
OK you've convinced me that it's a sidegrade.
You think it's worth $200 more (probably $100 on N1 and $300 on N2 for release) for 2 more cores (which still power many phones flawlessly) and another GB of RAM when Android has the best RAM management in the world?
side note: http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/samsung/galaxy-note-carbon-blue.html note #1 has LTE too bud.
the rated ppi is deceptive. you are looking at pentil matrix rgbg vs real world resoloution. pentile matrix is a little weird they are geting away with high resoultion ratings by comparing it to crt tecnology. there are situations with different colors and contrasts that rgbg can create the number of lines it is rated as but it's not what is actually underlying. when you look at rgbg screens you may see a weird diagnal screen door effect depending on the colors on the screen since the pixels wind up being a little spaced out. high contrast stuff is not nearly as crisp, in effect text readability suffers. pick up an htc one x which has near iphone pixel density on an ips panel lcd and scale the text down till you can't read it, try the same on a gs3 which has a close enough screen size and the same rated resolution and you will see the ips is superior in this regard to the pentile matrix amoled. i would pick up an i777 gs2 before i got a gs3 for the size and i honestly think the i777 screen is clearer at the much lower resolution because the samoled+ is not pentile matris but thesamoled and samoled hd are.
also the older samsung devices are a 16:10 (i think this is what he tablets are, i dont feel like looking it up.) or 15:9 (most phones were this for a while) aspect ratio. this is good if the horizontal resolution is whole number scalable to hd video so there isn't a lot of estimations going on (1920x1200 would be ideal) because there is room for subtitles or the black bars just get bigger but it's often not. i'd look at horizontal res (in landscape) and compare it to common video resolutions over reading pixel count or density or vertical pixels or aspect ratio. and the .1 of an mp is nothing to worry about, i'd be more concerned about optics and firmware. i'm sure the pictures are actually improved.
about the dev community, right now the infuse is better than it's ever been. a lot of young talent is out there and guess what, they can't afford new phones, so yea dev drops off but it picks back up. if you want more dev buy a nexus or international device. the note 2 being exynos might see more dev as it may be more compatible with the international versions. i wouldn't worry about core count, watch the market, if the exynos 5 gets into a phone it's a dual core that runs with the ideal performance of the quad core, but the real world performance is much better since parallel processing isn't directly scalable. the snapdragon s4 chip (dual core) in the s3 and one x is also a beast. i'd be getting the most furture proof device. specs are almost meaningless since they don't relate to performance as directly as we would like them to.
in the end it's up to you, both great devices, the n2 will be more powerful but if the cost is a concern the n1 is still very good by any standards.
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about the dev community, right now the infuse is better than it's ever been.
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You hit the nail on the head with that one! The infuse has so many options and lots support! I wish mine didn't bork though -_-
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Personally I would say the Note 3, I am getting mine this weekend. If you really use your phone for videos and gaming and just overall alot of screen time and like big phones/screens, then get the Note 3. If you don't use your phone for other then maybe a few games or apps here and there and don't like big phones/screens get the Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 is a good phone, but all in all it isn't really a multimedia phone in my opinion. Though so might say otherwise.
The Nexus phones are really meant for developers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Dev_Phone
it should come down to cost and potentially hand size.
The note 3 is slightly better, but significantly more expensive.
If cost is a factor or if you have girl hands, go N5. If cost isn't a factor and/or you have man hands, go note 3.
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or if you have girl hands, go N5. If cost isn't a factor and/or you have man hands, go note 3.
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As a woman, I object to that.
Anything over 4" is too big to hold as a woman, so what does it matter if it is 5 or 5.7"? (Put that thing back in your pants lads, your phallus does not have a screen, let alone the ability to multitask.)
I wouldn't go back to a smaller phone if they paid me for it. No way.
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Really now, a note 3 can be compared with a nexus 5? In which area except the fast software updates? I want to know also.
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Nexus 5 is a lot cheaper, for the price it's hard to beat. Still though the Note 3 is a much better phone overall.
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I think you probably posted in the wrong forum to get an honest opinion.
I've been contemplating this too. Price is a factor. I also like the clean look vs the mess of status bar icons. Although it looks like I can address that through themes etc. The biggest things for me is the bigger screen and battery. I may go back to a Nexus device sometime, but for now I decided on the Note 3
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Really now, a note 3 can be compared with a nexus 5? In which area except the fast software updates? I want to know also.
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They do have the same processor.
No comparison, the Note has sd card and changeable battery. Those are absolutely essential for me so the nexus doesn't even bear consideration.
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No comparison, the Note has sd card and changeable battery. Those are absolutely essential for me so the nexus doesn't even bear consideration.
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Agreed. Those were my factors plus the multi window capability.
I have a Note 3 even though I was going to get a Nexus to receive the updates sooner. When they released the Nexus 5 I feared I would regret buying the Note, but no. I love this device and I don't think Nexus 5 offers a lot more compared to this, and it doesn't have spen. But keep in mind I wanted a big phone to replace a tablet too, so if you want something smaller and don't nees the spen, Nexus is an excellent choice for the price.
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Nexus 5 is a lot cheaper, for the price it's hard to beat. Still though the Note 3 is a much better phone overall.
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Sure it's cheaper and that's why it lacks the 40% of the things that N3 has.
I repeat you cannot compare 2 devices that are in 2 different categories with the biggest different imo the pen. Only phones with pen can be compared. Academically speaking nexus is great device for its price really but honestly if you go for N3 and used to the pen abilities there is no going back. I haven't touched with fingers except some zoom in/out since day 1.
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Sure it's cheaper and that's why it lacks the 40% of the things that N3 has.
I repeat you cannot compare 2 devices that are in 2 different categories with the biggest different imo the pen. Only phones with pen can be compared. Academically speaking nexus is great device for its price really but honestly if you go for N3 and used to the pen abilities there is no going back. I haven't touched with fingers except some zoom in/out since day 1.
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Absolutely but the op hasn't really been clear about what they want from a phone so I stated the only logical reason to choose the Nexus 5 - price.
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Go Nexus if you don't care about its poor battery life. At least you will be free of this Knox and locked bootloaders crap. It's also way cheaper and you will have way more roms and customizations available.
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I have a Note 3 even though I was going to get a Nexus to receive the updates sooner. When they released the Nexus 5 I feared I would regret buying the Note, but no. I love this device and I don't think Nexus 5 offers a lot more compared to this, and it doesn't have spen. But keep in mind I wanted a big phone to replace a tablet too, so if you want something smaller and don't nees the spen, Nexus is an excellent choice for the price.
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Congratulations on your first post I was in the same situation, whether to wait for Nexus 5 (still own Nexus 4) or buy this beast. And as you said it, I never regreted it, absolutely beatifull peace of hardware. And surprisingly, love the amoled and its deep blacks. I am back on Samsung after years of HTC/Google phones. Still need to get used to S-Pen, barely ever using it, but the phone is excellent even without it.
Got a Nexus 5, loved it but had issues with my 3UK home signal box so got a Note 3. Personally I prefer the Nexus 5 as its much easier to handle. Nexus I can use with one hand but when I do the same with the Note 3 I feel like i'm going to drop it. Both are amazing phones but to me 5" is the sweet spot for the mobile phone screen size.
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So.. you compare specs.. whats the point ?
What a terrible biased "review" of both devices.
* You buy a Samsung Note series device for the S-Pen first, and whatever they throw in including the kitchen sink is icing on the cake
* You buy the Note 3 for the expandable memory and the removable battery! In which case you can add on a 2nd oem battery or use a plethora of external higher capacity batteries that are available
* what about the triple mic's on the note 3? The adaptive sound dsp?
* How easy to not mention about multi-window use on the note 3, the killer slow motion with 1/4, 1/3, 1/2 speed adjustments, the browse while you stream video window ability with the stock video player, the adjustable AMOLED color profiles, bluetooth 4.0LE, advanced modes, the wifi-direct modes
* what about the screen writing which works amazingly well? The s-Pen command mode with scrapbook, screen write, and the pressure sensitive screen???!!
* Don't forget the sensors on the note 3: Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, temperature, humidity, gesture
* how good the camera really is and no camera focus lag like on a nexus 5
* even if you guys don't like touchwiz, a simple launcher can fix that. But the bulk of the phone is made even better by samsung, really.
* and best of all it works on Verizon's network. Supports simultaneous LTE data and CDMA voice.
The pros on the nexus 5:
* price <---
* OIS in camera but what's the point when the extremely laggy focusing is in play
* IPS screen with ultra pixel density; at least no worries like SAMOLED screen burn
Those are about the 3 pro's going for the nexus in my book. I don't want stock android for it does NOTHING! Samsung threw in all the whiz bang features and if you don't like the features turn them off. At least you have that feature to turn off vs. a stock android which has nothing! I find it interesting the so called hard core android user choose nexus because they choose to have stock everything on the phone no extras. But what is the point of owning a smartphone in which you don't have any fancy features? Why not just get a regular dumb phone and call it a day.
And the article states you rarely change batteries - what a joke - because when my battery gets near 30% which is about 1day to 1.5days/2days time, I just swap it out in less than 40 seconds with a fresh one waiting in the charger. I use a 64GB Samsung mSD card now to hold all the 4K videos and 60fps 1080p videos and also the mic on the note 3 is extremely good! You can even zoom in the mic!
You shouldn't even compare the note 3 to the nexus 5 because the note 3 really is a fantastic phablet. The nexus 5 is a good phone for the price but again, if you want stock android that does nothing, go for it!
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Great "REVIEW". I agree whit that.
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If you have the money for the note 3, it is a no brainer.
But nexus devices are still amazing.
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The nexus is a BEAUTY! I love the design, the handling, the screen...I love the speed, the back of the device, the simplicity.
BUT:
I just can't go with a SP on which i can't rely on in terms of battery life. Not a great step forward from the nexus 4 - i am more a heavy user. And folks : if i have to turn off Google now just to be able to get through the day, there is seriously sth wrong. I want to be "power independent" and that is simply impossible with the nexus. And still the camera is kind of bad.
No, the Note wins in all terms. (at least for me)
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All the size speculates that the Note 4 will only have a 5.7" but with 4k resolution. I don't get the point of this, why have a such high resolution but still on 5.7" screen?
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All the size speculates that the Note 4 will only have a 5.7" but with 4k resolution. I don't get the point of this, why have a such high resolution but still on 5.7" screen?
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I'd be more than happy if it would retain 5.7". Anything above 6 inch seems to go overboard with the so called phablet. Pocketability option would be close to non existent if it is.
4k resolution on 5.7 inch for me is fine too. I've tried LG G3 and I am honestly impressed.
But that's just my opinion.
We'll still see what Note 4 has to offer. If it is just a screen size/resolution bump and additional sensor gimmicks. I'd probably pass and wait for Note 5.
Since Note 3 still serves me well. I'm hoping that at 2015. New battery technology would be powering the upcoming handsets, as we all know we are just a year or months away from 64 bit processors. The supposed new ion batteries that theoritically doubles battery life of the current lithium ion batteries.
Yeah seriously, 5.7 is like perfect size. Instead of bigger and bigger screen, they can spend that time making better screen and other specs. Seriously the whole thirst for bigger screen and octo processors is just asinine. At the end of the day, its a damn phone. And then after all those specs dumped into the phone, another one will be released the next year. 5.7 with better screen and more PPI. Yes please
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I want smaller bezel and slightly shorter.
I reckon its about 5mm too long at the moment.
IF the note 4 has the same 5.7 inch screen size as the note 3 I am going to skip it and wait for the note 5 next year. I want a 6 inch screen note and won't support a phone or a company with my hard earned $$ for a new device with the same screen size as last year's model! I currently own a note 3 with a 10,000 mah zerolemon battery and rugged case so I can wait for the note 5 if need be.
QHD =\= 4K.
I'd like a jump to 5.9" myself.
Introducing the Galaxy note 8, with the best AMOLED screen yet, sitting at 9 inches!
Come on guys, when and why did a bigger screen become part of an update requirement?
I won't mind a bigger screen as long as the size of the phone stays the same (ie smaller bezels). But, there's not much room left.
Hhhhh , you wont see a 4K display in a phone untill next year or the year after and the screen size will be smaller not bigger
Samsung need to compete with the 5.5inch iphone 6 so they will make the note 4 screen smaller to 5.5inch or they will keep the same 5.7inch and it will have a snapdragon 805 chip with a QHD=2K super amoled display like the galaxy s5 lte-a
Personally i have the galaxy note3 and i skipped galaxy s5 because the note 3 was better and i am waiting for samsung to impress us/me with the note4
The screen size doesn't bother me if it goes up, but any of the epic fail features (waterproofing causing system overheating or port covers that fall off/are a pain to use) will preclude me from buying the Note 4.
I want buy it but I won't if it's going to be a turkey like the Galaxy 5, Xperia Z2 etc.
I must admit I get quite a kick out of people who say they'll wait for the Note 5, even though the Note 4 hasn't even been released yet.
For the guys who think the Note 4 sucks, I'd just like to save you a little time...
The Note 5 sucks too.
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If this the logic is new device = bigger screen then note 6 will be a tablet. For me 5.7" is perfect. If they make the device any bigger than this I won't buy it. It would be perfect if they could keep he 5.7" screen but make the device smaller which means more practical and easy to handle with one hand.
What logic?
I just think 5.7" is too damn small for a phone with a stylus.
Minimum should be 6".
*smaller bezel, like the G3
*stereo speakers, cupping speakers is ridiculous, imo
*better battery life at full brightness, no tweaks
*improved TW speed, the devs have it pretty smooth, but there are still some lag relative to iphones
*an incremental processor upgrade is not going to be enough imo
the iphone will have the better design, better battery life, better processor, and smoother OS and it will be released withing DAYS of announcement, which really means nothing to me since the phone is so locked down, so I am done with Apple products
why can't HTC just release the REAL phone I want which is a 5.7 M8
Personally 5.7" is my perfect size too.. i wouldnt buy if the size would increase..
but screen bigger than 5.7" but smaller or same footprint, well thats another story..
Personally I'm gonna wait awhile before getting a new phone as I am still really happy with my Note 3. Of course I'll be curious and probably tempted but the Note 3 can easily last another 2 years (if not more) and it will be interesting to see what is out and available by then
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It would be perfect if they could keep he 5.7" screen but make the device smaller which means more practical and easy to handle with one hand.
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Pretty much this. at 5.7" the screen only just fits in the pockets of my slacks without sticking out, and barely better in my jeans. If the device retained the current form factor and reduced bezel size that would be okay though.
One area where samsung could really reduce the size of the device, or increase the screen size is by moving the damn buttons. It is 2014 and Samsung are now the only android OEM with physical home/back/menu buttons, just give us some damn softbuttons already.
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Personally I'm gonna wait awhile before getting a new phone as I am still really happy with my Note 3. Of course I'll be curious and probably tempted but the Note 3 can easily last another 2 years (if not more) and it will be interesting to see what is out and available by then
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Pretty much this. The only thing that could make me move off the Note 3 before that would be a Nexus for Verizon Wireless in the states haha.
Hmm.
1. I think physical button will stay. (have not seen a galaxy phone without it)
2. I think we won't get stereo front speakers. (aforementioned physical button)
3. So much hate for the phone that's not even out yet.
4. I think TW is going to stay. (they now have "Galaxy Apps"!, instead of Samsung apps..., not to mention Samsung wearables only for Samsung phones)
5. New features from S5 will definitely be a possibility. (i.e. heart rate sensor, fingerprint scanner, water resistant rating)
6. I agree that they will have to come up with something we have not seen before(not just software, or features from the S5) or many people will not upgrade or jump ship to a different manufacturer. (sigh...no more updates to Wanam Xposed)
Relax and enjoy the ride.
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Pretty much this. at 5.7" the screen only just fits in the pockets of my slacks without sticking out, and barely better in my jeans. If the device retained the current form factor and reduced bezel size that would be okay though.
One area where samsung could really reduce the size of the device, or increase the screen size is by moving the damn buttons. It is 2014 and Samsung are now the only android OEM with physical home/back/menu buttons, just give us some damn softbuttons already.
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And if they move that ugly logo to the back, it would be amazing *_*
But where would they put the finger print scanner though?
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What logic?
I just think 5.7" is too damn small for a phone with a stylus.
Minimum should be 6".
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Not really, when you remember that the note has no on screen buttons getting in the way. A phone still has to be portable you know and unless they're gonna be fitting that screen in the same footprint it may be a little too large IMO.