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[Q] Is Super CID necessary or optional?

I've done a couple forum searches between the General & Q&A section, and I haven't found the answer.
I've already S-off'ed, Rooted, and flashed CWM 5.X. And I'm just wondering if Super CID is necessary after completing these steps.
I'm new to the Sensation/HTC products, so sorry if this is a really noob question.

U do because if u dont it will just limit the number of roms u can flash on ur phone for ex. i use insert coin
nd its based on European sensation nd If I have tmo cid I won't be able to use it
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deol 4ever said:
U do because if u dont it will just limit the number of roms u can flash on ur phone for ex. i use insert coin
nd its based on European sensation nd If I have tmo cid I won't be able to use it
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That's not gonna happen. If you are s-off then you can install any custom rom you like.
I, for example, have Vodafone cid but i flashed insert coin, leedroid and rcmix so far.
You have to change cid only if you want to flash an official HTC RUU to, let's say, a Vodafone branded phone.
So for me Super CID is absolutely optional.

I am very confused about this.
I have not gone with SuperCID; I have CID=TMOB0101. I keep seeing in ROM descriptions "You must have SuperCID", and yet I succeed in installing and running that ROM without SuperCID.
I *am* S-OFF and rooted, of course, and I always make sure that I have the corresponding firmware installed.
I've installed current ROMs that are originating from several different continents, as far as I can tell.
So why do I keep being told that I need to go with SuperCID? It seems pointless.

varxx said:
I am very confused about this.
I have not gone with SuperCID; I have CID=TMOB0101. I keep seeing in ROM descriptions "You must have SuperCID", and yet I succeed in installing and running that ROM without SuperCID.
I *am* S-OFF and rooted, of course, and I always make sure that I have the corresponding firmware installed.
I've installed current ROMs that are originating from several different continents, as far as I can tell.
So why do I keep being told that I need to go with SuperCID? It seems pointless.
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+1 I completely agree with you!...

SuperCID is optional, I think most people will do it as it will allow you to flash any firmware without having to worry if your CID is compatable with the firmware your trying to flash. For example with a vodafone CID you would really only be able to flash vodafone firmware. Although this doesn't cause an issue when flashing a ROM most devs will recommend a certain firmware to be used.
Saying that all the ICS based roms will require a firmware update so it would mean you would have to either edit files within the firmware, SuperCID and now for all those still to worried to SuperCID the guys over at the dev forum have made a nice sticky on firmware updates. HERE without the need to SuperCID

The CID would only limit the capability of flashing Stock Roms from different carriers, for example my CID is BM_001 which stands for Bell Mobile which is the original carrier of the device, if I were to flash a lets say Stock T-Mobile Rom I may encounter some issues. With Super Cid (which changes the CID to 1111111) you open your devices to all other "Carrier Roms"

Any one put Rogers from into AT&T?

Anyone tried this yet? I know the boot loader is locked. But since rogers from is official as well. That should work right? Any one has directions on how to do it?
Just run the exe? Any Mac versions?

Please don't post in the development section with this kind of stuff. Thread moved.

In answer to your question, no it won't work. Model numbers between at&t and rogers differ slightly and the ruu looks for model id to verify that it is right to flash. This is by design and is good so that some moron can't flash a vivid RUU on a HOX or flash int'l ruu on an at&t
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Thanks. I am a noob when it comes to htc. For xperia s. We can load other similar roms with no root or bootloadet unlock. So the only way to load rogers onto att is to wait for bootloader unlock then? Can anyone verify this?

hexproject said:
Thanks. I am a noob when it comes to htc. For xperia s. We can load other similar roms with no root or bootloadet unlock. So the only way to load rogers onto att is to wait for bootloader unlock then? Can anyone verify this?
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Nothing to verify. This has been HTC's model for quite some time.
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So only way is bootloader unlocked and then flash with official rogers rom if you are on att? So thats why everyone is all pissed about att version not having bootloader unlocked. Thanks for your info.

hexproject said:
So only way is bootloader unlocked and then flash with official rogers rom if you are on att? So thats why everyone is all pissed about att version not having bootloader unlocked. Thanks for your info.
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Unlock bootloader
Flash cwm recovery (don't have one yet)
Flash rom
Profit
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Are the bootloaders between Rogers and AT&T different? I know that when you try to unlock the bootloader, it gives you a string of numbers that you enter prior to unlocking the bootloader. If the bootloaders are the same, then theoretically us AT&T users ought to be able to use a string of numbers from a Rogers phone just to make the tool happy. Right?

mikelebz said:
Are the bootloaders between Rogers and AT&T different? I know that when you try to unlock the bootloader, it gives you a string of numbers that you enter prior to unlocking the bootloader. If the bootloaders are the same, then theoretically us AT&T users ought to be able to use a string of numbers from a Rogers phone just to make the tool happy. Right?
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Nope. Its a hash of some sort. Its different everytime you run the command.
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Pirateghost said:
Unlock bootloader
Flash cwm recovery (don't have one yet)
Flash rom
Profit
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I dont want custon rom just yet, Just rogers official rom to work on att . Do i still need cwm? No one has tried putting the rogers zip file in the root and update that way?.. You can download all the official rom from the development section. Iatt is in exe and rogers is in zip file...

hexproject said:
I dont want custon rom just yet, Just rogers official rom to work on att . Do i still need cwm? No one has tried putting the rogers zip file in the root and update that way?.. You can download all the official rom from the development section. Iatt is in exe and rogers is in zip file...
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you're spinnin your wheels here mate.
i KNOW how it works with RUUs and the zip files they produce....i have been around for at least a few months with a few HTC devices.....
JUST having root DOES NOT mean that you can miraculously flash any file you want
unlocking the bootloader would allow you to modify the rom zip that is produced by the RUU and fastboot flash it, but you will not be able to flash the radio that comes with it, essentially all you could flash is /system and /boot
you dont think that every possibility was attempted while working on the Vivid? this aint my first rodeo.....

Pirateghost said:
you're spinnin your wheels here mate.
i KNOW how it works with RUUs and the zip files they produce....i have been around for at least a few months with a few HTC devices.....
JUST having root DOES NOT mean that you can miraculously flash any file you want
unlocking the bootloader would allow you to modify the rom zip that is produced by the RUU and fastboot flash it, but you will not be able to flash the radio that comes with it, essentially all you could flash is /system and /boot
you dont think that every possibility was attempted while working on the Vivid? this aint my first rodeo.....
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These RUU files are funny. Way back in WM days, with the HP 6315 (htc built) I was the guy that hex edited the RUU executable to bypass the model check. I had/have VERY little programming experience but it only took me a few hours to figure it out. I wonder if this method is still feasible..........

beaups said:
These RUU files are funny. Way back in WM days, with the HP 6315 (htc built) I was the guy that hex edited the RUU executable to bypass the model check. I had/have VERY little programming experience but it only took me a few hours to figure it out. I wonder if this method is still feasible..........
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have a crack at it, but the zip file actually contains the signature and the model check, not the exe.
if you can modify the zip file without changing the signature, then by all means, please do....
or someone could just unlock the bootloader and it wouldnt matter if the zip is signed or not, just need to edit the checks and remove the hboot, recovery, radio, adsp, etc from the zip

That would be cool. I came from sony and samsung and this is my first time with HTC. So thanks for all these info. A great help with people who just want to use stock roms from other carrier.

hexproject said:
That would be cool. I came from sony and samsung and this is my first time with HTC. So thanks for all these info. A great help with people who just want to use stock roms from other carrier.
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after unlocking bootloader, and getting a recovery installed, you can run stock rom from any other carrier, just from a CWM version
I like having several stock rooted roms in CWM format, so I tend to knock em out as soon as I can....and get them into your hands

Pirateghost said:
have a crack at it, but the zip file actually contains the signature and the model check, not the exe.
if you can modify the zip file without changing the signature, then by all means, please do....
or someone could just unlock the bootloader and it wouldnt matter if the zip is signed or not, just need to edit the checks and remove the hboot, recovery, radio, adsp, etc from the zip
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My skills are rusty. But back when I was dealing with the WM RUU I bypassed both the model check and also the CRC check right in the executable. Granted these security measures have come a LONG way since then, but sometimes people overlook the obvious, you know?

If the phone gets S-OFF you can set SuperCID and flash away.

[Q] Help need for clarification of how to set-up

Ok so I have a One X with AT&T and I am just asking for some clarifications.
1.) I am on software version 1.73, which is from what I understand to be root-able, but software version 1.85 isn't root-able?
2.) After reading around on here people keep referring to them re-locking their boot-loaders after they unlock them through htc-dev, so my question is do you need to re-lock it afterwards? Also, what is the reason why?
Any answers are appreciated, please inform me if I have blatantly missed something obvious or if i'm in the wrong place.

Can I ask Red or one of the other mods to please move this to Q&A, it seems I neglected this
And Red are you really 15?

1.85 has not yet been rooted. Correct. After gaining root, super cid and unlocking bootloader you only need to relock it when needing to use a ruu, say to upgrade to 1.88 or if you just want or need to go back to stock. After ruu you can go back and re unlock it since ruu won't affect super Cid. Hope this helps
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Thanks for the answer.
One more thing, are you able to flash CWM and roms after unlocking the bootloader the first time? Or do you have to run the RUU to be able to?

Once bootloader is unlocked you can flash your recovery. The latest twrp recovery is choice since it the only one with functioning USB at the moment. If you decide to relock and run a ruu remember to unlock and reflash your recovery of choice too. The only time u need to ruu (typically) is to upgrade or downgrade firmware or fix a soft brick so you don't NEED to ruu at all but it's a good idea to upgrade for the bug fixes from 1.73.
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Applying RUUs on Unlocked 1.14/2.22 AT&T One X

Before anyone tries to flame me, I've read all of the recent ICS and JB rom threads, as well as most of the generic question threads. I've unlocked, rooted, and flashed several roms before settling on CleanROM so I am not a complete noob. The master q&a thread doesn't cover RUUs much, and people aren't that interested in applying non rootable RUUs, so info on going back to stock on a newer or even older RUU doesn't seem to be widely available. My biggest concern is bricking my phone or losing major functionality, as some people using asian based roms seem to be having reboot and/or wifi issues.
1. Applying a different carriers S4 JB RUU is perfectly safe as long as I relock the boot loader, even with Super-CID.
I've seen conflicting reports of issues with RUUs when you have Super-CID, even with the original shipping RUU and a relocked boot loader. Can someone confirm that using RUUs is safe as long as the boot loader is relocked? What if it isn't relocked? Just an error or a bricked phone?
2. Once you unlock your phone on 1.14, you are stuck with that radio forever unless you apply an RUU or switch to Cyanogenmod.
3. Assuming RUUs are safe, applying a different carriers' RUU on my AT&T One X won't hurt anything. There may be apn issues, but otherwise everything should work (especially the camera and wifi).
Again, I understand that without root, I may not be able to add apns anyway. AT&T at least seems to have blocked the ability on their stock rom; not sure if other carriers do the same.
I really appreciate the help. I have searched, so this is more of a confirmation than anything else. Just trying to avoid bricking my phone and learn something new at the same time.
Tim
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tlazarus said:
Before anyone tries to flame me, I've read all of the recent ICS and JB rom threads, as well as most of the generic question threads. I've unlocked, rooted, and flashed several roms before settling on CleanROM so I am not a complete noob. The master q&a thread doesn't cover RUUs much, and people aren't that interested in applying non rootable RUUs, so info on going back to stock on a newer or even older RUU doesn't seem to be widely available. My biggest concern is bricking my phone or losing major functionality, as some people using asian based roms seem to be having reboot and/or wifi issues.
1. Applying a different carriers S4 JB RUU is perfectly safe as long as I relock the boot loader, even with Super-CID.
I've seen conflicting reports of issues with RUUs when you have Super-CID, even with the original shipping RUU and a relocked boot loader. Can someone confirm that using RUUs is safe as long as the boot loader is relocked? What if it isn't relocked? Just an error or a bricked phone?
2. Once you unlock your phone on 1.14, you are stuck with that radio forever unless you apply an RUU or switch to Cyanogenmod.
3. Assuming RUUs are safe, applying a different carriers' RUU on my AT&T One X won't hurt anything. There may be apn issues, but otherwise everything should work (especially the camera and wifi).
Again, I understand that without root, I may not be able to add apns anyway. AT&T at least seems to have blocked the ability on their stock rom; not sure if other carriers do the same.
I really appreciate the help. I have searched, so this is more of a confirmation than anything else. Just trying to avoid bricking my phone and learn something new at the same time.
Tim
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Im on hboot 1.14, firmware 2.20 att. Unlocked , rooted , flashed Rom. However , I had some problem then decided go back stock.
1. Downloaded ruu2.20 for att
2. Relock bootloader
3. Boot phone to bootloader mode then run ruu. Now my phone is stock
P/s :
- you don't need to root your phone to add apn . I can add T-Mobile apn just fine after I flashed ruu.
- ruu.exe can't run if you bootloader is unlocked.
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tritran18518 said:
Im on hboot 1.14, firmware 2.20 att. Unlocked , rooted , flashed Rom. However , I had some problem then decided go back stock.
1. Downloaded ruu2.20 for att
2. Relock bootloader
3. Boot phone to bootloader mode then run ruu. Now my phone is stock
P/s : you don't need to root your phone to add apn .
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Thanks - that answers my RUU questions as far as going back to stock using RUUs. I assume the same applies to other carrier's RUUs, i.e. Telus/Asia. What about using an OTA on a phone with Super-CID?

redpoint73 said:
A factory reset or running the RUU will not change the CID.
SuperCID doesn't prevent you from getting the AT&T OTA (although root and unlocked bootloader will).
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jiggamanjb said:
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Okay, I think that answers my questions. No problems with using a RUU, AT&T or otherwise, as long as it is for the XL. Stuck on my current radio unless I use a RUU. And I need to relock my bootloader before applying a RUU, although I can unlock it after. I will lose root, however. Thanks!

cant unlock at&t htc one x bootloader

Hi everybody first of all excelent website...
I never had problems but when happens I look all over ethe Google or sea developers but this time I realy can't seem to get it done.
Moving from Samsung galaxy to HTC one x I can't unlock bootloader in order to flash a recovery and a Rom
I have try several tut but nnothing dosent change CID to unlock trought htcdev or the one click method or all one kit
And yes I search in all xda I like I say I don't get it right
Can someone help me, my info is:
Hboot 2.14
Android 4.1.1
Firmware version 3.18
At&t HTC one x
Thanks to everybody

Darkpikasso said:
Hi everybody first of all excelent website...
I never had problems but when happens I look all over ethe Google or sea developers but this time I realy can't seem to get it done.
Moving from Samsung galaxy to HTC one x I can't unlock bootloader in order to flash a recovery and a Rom
I have try several tut but nnothing dosent change CID to unlock trought htcdev or the one click method or all one kit
And yes I search in all xda I like I say I don't get it right
Can someone help me, my info is:
Hboot 2.14
Android 4.1.1
Firmware version 3.18
At&t HTC one x
Thanks to everybody
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There is a thread HTC one x noobs u check that I hvnt searched enough unlocking is a simple process and it's all over the xda
Here is the url
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2567916
Or just search root method for 3.18 HTC one x
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It's an at&t phone, the at&t CID is blocked by htcdev so you need to get SuperCID before being able to unlock the bootloader. Click the Everything Evita link in my signature and bookmark that thread, it's a resource thread that contains everything you'll ever need. Once you're in that thread navigate to the root section and find the 3.18 root method, this is the only method that'll work with your current firmware. Follow the instructions in that thread and then you can unlock your bootloader.
Once you have an unlocked bootloader you can install TWRP recovery which will allow you to root your stock ROM or install custom ROMs. If you need instructions on this click the How-To Guide For Beginners link in my signature, it's a thread I put together detailing some basic operations. If you have any questions feel free to ask in my Noob Friendly Q&A + General Help thread.
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You need to use the correct root method that corresponds to your firmware version in order to change your CID. Trying other methods you randomly Google around for is not going to work.
Use my Index thread, look under "ROOT" and find the method that matches your firmware number (3.18).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
There is not one-click method that works for firmware 3.18. Trying methods that don't match your firmware number is a waste of time.
Also, when asking for help, you need to be absolutely specific as to what you have tried, and what you haven't (including the result such as error messages, etc). If you don't give us specifics, it makes it even harder for us to help you.
Hasoon2000's all-in-one toolkit should work on 3.18. But if this is the one you tried, you haven't told us what happens when you try to use it.

To make it easier, here's the link to the 3.18 root method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285086
You'll still want to bookmark the Everything Evita thread linked in my signature.
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Thank you everybody
When I try the all in one kit gave the error of waiting for the device, updated the adv drivers and still dosent show the CID change
In htcdev give me the MID not allowed error
In most cases, all in one method, Jose method, motoXchopper method dosent seems to work what I'm going to try is to uninstall all the drivers for HTC one x and install again

Darkpikasso said:
In most cases, all in one method, Jose method, motoXchopper method dosent seems to work what I'm going to try is to uninstall all the drivers for HTC one x and install again
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What the heck is "Jose method"? Again, I think your are fumbling around with methods that aren't even intended for your device or firmware version.
Do you have a working adb environment? What is the response if you use the command:
adb devices

ruffain said:
There is a thread HTC one x noobs u check that I hvnt searched enough unlocking is a simple process and it's all over the xda
Here is the url
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2567916
Or just search root method for 3.18 HTC one x
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Come on, you of all people shouldn't be giving attitude to this guy telling him he hasn't searched enough. You've asked me multiple questions that could have been answered if you had searched for the answer, including how to unlock your bootloader, that's kinda like the pot calling the kettle black.
It's easy for you to say unlocking the bootloader is an easy process once you've done it. The fact is that it isn't that simple for someone who is unaware that there are different methods for different firmware versions.
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redpoint73 said:
What the heck is "Jose method"? Again, I think your are fumbling around with methods that aren't even intended for your device or firmware version.
Do you have a working adb environment? What is the response if you use the command:
adb devices
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Thank you for all the responses
The error that gives me still is the same mid not allowed
Still having problems, but someone told me that it is first to root and then change the CID to superCID 1111111 and then run a all in one program to unlock
Is it thruth?

You've been told quite a few times now that you can't unlock your bootloader until you have SuperCID. You need to use the 3.18 root method that I linked you to a few posts ago. Forget about the toolkits, just go to that thread and follow the instructions.
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Darkpikasso said:
Thank you for all the responses
The error that gives me still is the same mid not allowed
Still having problems, but someone told me that it is first to root and then change the CID to superCID 1111111 and then run a all in one program to unlock
Is it thruth?
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Ok I had the same issue several months ago. I have AT&t One x as well. I noticed I could unlock the bootloader and S-OFF when my phone was carrier unlocked. I used the roadrunner method I believe (it's been awhile). I am certain Timaaaa knows what he is saying, but if you can't find a solution, that may be your other answer as well. Worked for me.

Roadrunner? I don't think such a method exists for this device. You can't get s-off without root, you can't get root without an unlocked bootloader, you can get an unlocked bootloader without SuperCID, the only way to get SuperCID on his firmware is to use the 3.18 root method. Hence the reason that's been stated over and over again in this thread. It's the only solution. Carrier unlocking has absolutely nothing to do with the bootloader unlock / root process.
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timmaaa said:
You've been told quite a few times now that you can't unlock your bootloader until you have SuperCID. You need to use the 3.18 root method that I linked you to a few posts ago. Forget about the toolkits, just go to that thread and follow the instructions.
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Got it, first root and then unlock
Keep you update and thanks a lot for the help

No, SuperCID, unlock, custom recovery, root.
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timmaaa said:
No, SuperCID, unlock, custom recovery, root.
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Thanks everybody for the help but I can't get superCID
The htc dosent let him write and all the exploits to change it ether dosent find the device or dosent allow to write the commands
I really don't know what is the problem
I already install new drivers uninstall the ones from Samsung that I had and nothing
Not even my phone has the option to put it in charge only it has various opcitions but none of them are charge only

What do you mean by "all the exploits"? Which exploits have you tried? Did you try the 3.18 root method I gave you the link to?
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lemonfugu said:
Ok I had the same issue several months ago. I have AT&t One x as well. I noticed I could unlock the bootloader and S-OFF when my phone was carrier unlocked. I used the roadrunner method I believe (it's been awhile). I am certain Timaaaa knows what he is saying, but if you can't find a solution, that may be your other answer as well. Worked for me.
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I got it....
I uninstall the drivers and install again there's were got the connection and unlocked but it says TEMPERED
Is that ok? Later in the afternoon I'm going to install custom recovery s-off and root

Yeah that's totally normal. I'd suggest you have a look at my How-To Guide For Beginners thread (link in my signature), it has some good instructions on your next steps.
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timmaaa said:
Roadrunner? I don't think such a method exists for this device.
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Probably is referring to the Rumrunner s-off method. And yes, carrier (SIM) unlock has nothing to do with bootloader unlock and/or s-off. Probably just a coincidence that that person was able to bootloader unlock after doing SIM unlock.

Thank you very much for the help now I have it everydone unlock, custom recovery, root and s-off.
I was having problems with faceoff to s-off but nothing big
I already have install viperxl with beastmode kernel
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