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Here is an application to make specific programs(like ebook reader,SatNav etc) prevent standby when they are running. It will watch them even when they are in background, so be careful, if you just forget them running in the background, your phone will not go into standby. (v1.1 change: now you can disable background watch by checking "monitor active window only")
Installation:
1- Just install the latest cab file onto Device Memory and NOT Storage Memory.
2- You need .NETCF 3.5, if you don't have it, install it.
Usage:
1- If you will use background watching, find the executable name from Task Manager/Processes, drop .exe part, type it into textbox and click add. (AdobeReaderLE.exe -> AdobeReaderLE)
1a- If you want to watch only the active window (so that your battery doesn't drain if you minimize the whitelist app) Find the window title of the application (Either task manager/applications or just look at the title if it is not hidden) and insert it as above. (Adobe Reader LE this time) you can have both versions live together. There is one limitation to active application watching though, if the application doesn't report a window title in task manager, you can only background watch it. (e.g. htcreader)
2- if you want to remove a certain app, select its name and click remove button.
3- if you want to have KeepAwake open but still not active (to force into standby) click stop.
4- this app autostarts with each boot, if you don't like it, delete the shortcut under \Windows\Startup\KeepAwake.lnk
5- this app starts minimized. if you want to configure settings, select the icon one more time or switch to it using a task manager.
6- if you click quit, obviously the software quits and no more monitoring is done, so click X after configuring if you want it to monitor your apps.
7- if you want to turn off screen and lock keys (for listening to music maybe) you can click the lock button. If your app is running, the phone will still stay awake.
Tips:
1- You can map KeepAwake to a hardware button for easy access and screen locking.
Credits:
Thanks goes to Frank T. van de Ven for ProcessCE library.
Thanks a lot to DaveShaw for letting me use xdaShutdown application.
I'm pretty excited about this... I've been looking for something exactly like this to prevent specific standby times.
I hope it works with most of the applications I have in mind.
Any bugs? Would you guys find it useful to have a lock button so that it turns off the screen and locks keys but still keeps the device awake? I have implemented this for the latest version I'm using (to have my GPS logger going but preventing accidental touch on screen and keys.) Or is it better to keep it simple?
Will this also prevent Windows MSN not to idle which will cause lost connection too?
Sorry, I'm new to the WinMo scene, just saw this on Pocketnews. Let me get this straight, will this work for apps that run in the bg that don't close out IE:
Facebook
Google Maps
Email
Albums
etc.?
because they slow down my phone, I want to close them out completely, not run them in the background so they can take up valuable resources.
espaleena said:
Will this also prevent Windows MSN not to idle which will cause lost connection too?
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I haven't specifically tried MSN app, but I see no reason it shouldn't work.
Raadius said:
Sorry, I'm new to the WinMo scene, just saw this on Pocketnews. Let me get this straight, will this work for apps that run in the bg that don't close out IE:
Facebook
Google Maps
Email
Albums
etc.?
because they slow down my phone, I want to close them out completely, not run them in the background so they can take up valuable resources.
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I think you need a task manager so that you can close apps. This one is for making certain apps prevent the phone go standby.
ozkaya said:
Any bugs? Would you guys find it useful to have a lock button so that it turns off the screen and locks keys but still keeps the device awake? I have implemented this for the latest version I'm using (to have my GPS logger going but preventing accidental touch on screen and keys.) Or is it better to keep it simple?
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I haven't given this a try yet, but any more additions are welcomed! This is something I've been looking for. I think it might be nice to give a way to put settings per application for standby perhaps (like some applications don't let the device go to stand by for 3 minutes, others are like 30 miuntes, etc). I think having't the screen off is a good addition, but keeping the device working is good, so things like voice recorder can work without having the screen on.
Seems to work well for IM services.
I haven't tested it completely for Opera and internet-browsing programs.
Nevertheless, this is a great idea.
new version is up..
What about on option... KEEP IT ON ? (Like LOCK)
This option would simply keep the phone ON, if the application is running in background even if we haven't listed anything
Is it possible? Maybe it's already included?
Thank you
Great app !
It doesn't work on my HD2. Youtube is running and my device locks and stops YT...
Any ideas??
Zepiii said:
What about on option... KEEP IT ON ? (Like LOCK)
This option would simply keep the phone ON, if the application is running in background even if we haven't listed anything
Is it possible? Maybe it's already included?
Thank you
Great app !
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I thought about that but later decided that not many people would find it useful. if enough request comes, I will add it. In the meantime, you might just add an always running app like device or cprog into list manually when you want to keep it on always. or just minimize an app in the whitelist
Quider said:
It doesn't work on my HD2. Youtube is running and my device locks and stops YT...
Any ideas??
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that's odd. I just tried and Youtube keeps itself open while playing a video for me even without this app. (Locks on the search screen) But still, KeepAwake seems to detect it when it is running. After installing have you clicked on the icon to run KeepAwake? Then minimized it by clicking on X? Have you tried another app, like Adobe Reader for instance? Is youtube minimized or active?
Hi,
Will this application disable lock option on device while using some application - eg. iGO Navigation?
Thanks
mdzepinajr said:
Hi,
Will this application disable lock option on device while using some application - eg. iGO Navigation?
Thanks
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as long as you don't lock it yourself, yes, it won't be locked.
Very nice app...much thanks!
The app works for eReader on my Omni II running 6.3 One word of caution I have the x= app closed option turned on so the x shuts down keepAwake. It took me some time to figure out I was closing the app not minimizing it.
How would I go about disabling the standby while in a call? What's the name of the application I need to put in there? I'd like to use it so the sleep during call doesn't stop the call recording utility from working, but I still would like the screen turning off when keeping the phone at the ear.
Doesn't work on touch pro2
The software breaks error when we try to add software to the list, only with the program in background it goes to sleep anyways. It's a good idea, but not there yet...
INTRO
Hey everyone!
Some of you, like me, loved to use the smart stay feature of Samsung, they disables the dimming of the screen while you are looking at it.
Unfortunately, on the latest builds (CM11 like CM12), this app is broken. What happens is that, when an app is using the camera and another tries to access it, there is a conflict. For example, you are using the camera. If smart stay + tries to see if you are still there, it tries to access the camera which is already in use. And so, the camera app doesn't know what to do and crashes ^^
A way to repair this is to modify directly the app to pause the search when the camera is already in use, but we can't do that, the only one who can is the app dev ^^ Another way is to refuse access to the camera when using the camera app, but not sure how we can do that... The way I did is bypassing this error by killing smart stay + when I use a specific app like the camera
Apps
To do this, you need to install :
Tasker : lets you automate stuff depending of the state of the phone, an app, or even the sensors,
Secure Settings : lets you change the phone settings directly from Tasker,
TaskKill : lets Tasker kill apps using several different methods.
Watch out! Make sure you have the latest version of each, or else bugs may appear!
Lets Start!
So, start by installing as those apps, and install the latest version of Smart Stay + (if you are on CM12, you can't download it from Play Store cause it's incompatible, so you need to use the apk from the Internet). Don't launch Smart Stay +, and don't enable its setting in the accessibility menu on the phone!
First off, we need to give root rights to Secure Settings. Launch the app, then go to the System+ tab and enable it. It will then ask for root rights, accept and we are good to go on.
Kill Switch
Now, launch Tasker and go on the profile tab (if you want to follow everything in english in the app, press the 3 dots in the upper right corner, then Preferences, go all the way down in the UI tab, then change the language). Create a new context using the + icon on the bottom of the app, then chose Application. A list of all your apps will be shown, so you need to chose which app will kill the other one. Here, I want the Camera app to be the "killer", so I chose the apps using the camera (I have Camera Next as well as the stock camera, so I chose both) :
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To go back, do not press the X button on the upper right corner! It will erase your config Press the button on the upper left corner to go back to the profiles. The app will show you then a menu where you can enter a new task. Chose New Task and name it "Kill". A new screen will be shown :
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Click +, then go into Plugin, and you will see all the plugins. Click on TaskKill, then press on the Pen logo on the upper right corner to config the plugin. Here, you can choose the method to use to kill, and the app. You need to use the Extrem method, or else Smart Stay will keep rebooting... Choose Smart Stay in the list, then click apply. Set the Timeout to 0, then save it by clicking on the upper left corner, and return to the profiles list.
Here is what we should see :
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Starting the App
We now need to start smart stay after we finished using the camera, and it's a bit tricky. You can either start the app using Tasker, but it will ask for you to enable the accessibility option of Smart Stay (happens every time), and that is really a bummer... That made me look if we can't directly turn on that setting from Tasker, so that we don't need to open the settings, close the app, etc... And it is! We can change that settings from Tasker using a plugin! Buuuut, the catch is that we need root...
Soooo to enable this setting, you need to long press on the action we just did named "Kill", and add an Exist Task. Next, do a new task named "Start". After, choose the plugin Secure Settings, then press on the Pen logo on the upper right corner to config the plugin. Here, you can choose which action you want. Go to System+ Actions, then press Accessibility Services. A new menu will appear, where you can see the different apps that has an Accessibility Setting. Choose Smartstay+, and make sure the button underneath it is Disabled (so that it disables that setting). Save it, then go back to the profiles list using the button on the upper left corner.
Here is what you should see :
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Testing
Tada! Done! You can now launch the camera app without having it bug! To test it out, you can go on each action, like "kill" and press the play button on bottom of the screen. You will see that the notification is closed. Go into the "start" action and press play, you will that icon return! Go try it out using the camera app!
Misc / Other Method
You may ask why I didn't use the Secure Settings in the first place, and the reason is that it doesn't work well. The app isn't totally killed, it's just paused, so we don't know if it still has access to the camera, or if it is draining battery... Using TaskKill ensure us that it isn't running in the background, and so not draining any battery.
For Android L users, you may know that with Smart Lock, you can unlock the phone with your face. To do so, Android uses the stock camera app. This means that you won't have any bugs at all using that unlocking method with Smart Stay, thanks to our bypass
Another method that was pointed out by triviums (1+1 forums) is to use Smart Stay EX Pro. It has an option to disable scanning when certain apps are launched. But, after testing this out, it doesn't work as well as my method. There is a missing option in that app which is Smart Timeout. Without this feature, it still scans if the user is there, even though he is typing something or scrolling a page. Smart Stay + has this feature for free )
If this could be implemented (cause on the photos on Google Play, the feature is there for PRO users, but after installing you don't see it...), then it may be better (no need to kill and restart app, which takes some battery). If this doesn't work, then the battery you gain from not killing the app is lost in the use of the camera when it isn't necessary...
Serious FLAW w/ Huawei Phone Manager - "Recent Apps" & 3rd party App Startup - HELP!
Hi,
I am having a 2 MAJOR deal-breaker issues with my GEM-703L B112 EMUI 3.1:
* Startup Apps (including Alarm Clocks, Hangouts, 3rd party Email client) don't start after a reboot resulting in missing notifications
* Protected Apps (including Alarm Clocks, Hangouts, 3rd party Email client) get killed/closed when "flicking up" to clear all apps using Recent Apps button resulting in missing notifications
The culprit of this issue seems to be Huawei's Phone Manager. All apps mentioned above are set as Protected Apps, Trusted permissions, allowed all notifications, and background data is enabled.
If anyone has a solution for this issue, *PLEASE* help! I really love the phone but must have this resolved since these are VITAL, especially for my alarm clock - not waking up for work is not an option!
I will be rooting once I get the bootloader unlocked via unlock code from Huawei at which time this issue can be fixed by making these important apps as system apps (thanks to ajsmsg78 for the suggestion as well), but until that time and for many of those who are and won't be rooted, a solution is clearly very badly needed.
Lastly, I believe this issue also exists for other Huawei phones having EMUI such as the P8, etc.
Switch off Power Genie app and set energy saving to least agressive level.
trurl3 said:
Switch off Power Genie app and set energy saving to least agressive level.
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Thanks for your reply trurl3, my energy saving level is set to "Performance" which is the least aggressive level, but I cannot find this "Power Genie" app. Where would this be found through?
E--Man said:
Thanks for your reply trurl3, my energy saving level is set to "Performance" which is the least aggressive level, but I cannot find this "Power Genie" app. Where would this be found through?
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Don't bother doesn't help, I've power genie disabled and it's on Performance, still same issue.
hagba said:
Don't bother doesn't help, I've power genie disabled and it's on Performance, still same issue.
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Thanks hagba.
UPDATE: strangely enough, my startup apps have now slowly started to start up after reboot but not right away. As I do not yet have root on this device, I simply cannot explain why in the world this positive change had happened. I am almost afraid to reboot again because I will be frustrated if/when they do not start up.
The app that I really need to start up is called Alarm Clock Xtreme which is my goto Alarm app for years now. At first it was not showing the permanent notification in the notifications and the Alar, would not go off. Now after a few minutes after reboot it is showing up. Not sure what is going on here code-wise.
Anyone have any input here or a solution for the Recent Apps button killing Protected Apps?
hagba said:
Don't bother doesn't help, I've power genie disabled and it's on Performance, still same issue.
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Was a problem on the X1 I had as well. Things like google hangouts would get closed and you'd never get notifications, even if it was set as a protected app. From what I can tell only the Huawei apps are truly protected...
You have to root and get a rom with the phone manager removed.
And even then, some things still get closed once in a while, which is odd. There's is plenty of free memory, so not sure why the Huawei phones mess up the memory management so much.
This Huawei memory management issue is really the only bad thing about this phone... Android has a great memory manager built in, don't mess with it
Otherwise, its perfect for me...
hagba said:
Don't bother doesn't help, I've power genie disabled and it's on Performance, still same issue.
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Hagba not sure if u saw my message above.
omniphil said:
Was a problem on the X1 I had as well. Things like google hangouts would get closed and you'd never get notifications, even if it was set as a protected app. From what I can tell only the Huawei apps are truly protected...
You have to root and get a rom with the phone manager removed.
And even then, some things still get closed once in a while, which is odd. There's is plenty of free memory, so not sure why the Huawei phones mess up the memory management so much.
This Huawei memory management issue is really the only bad thing about this phone... Android has a great memory manager built in, don't mess with it
Otherwise, its perfect for me...
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Thanks omniphil, I'm wondering if this particular issue could be worked around since startup apps are working but only after a delay (see "UPDATE" above) by having a third party app monitor if a process is killed or having a Tasker profile to relaunch it right away, but then we are back in the same paradox where that third party app or Tasker profile would also be killed when "flicking up" to kill all apps.
@ajsmsg78 , @elio321 , @mcdhol_24 , @hagba , @Djiban:
Perhaps there is a certain third party app or Tasker profile can designate itself with "priority" mode of some sort and can bind itself to notifications or accessibility so that it would be relaunched? Please note I am just brainstorming here! Input would be gladly appreciated...
E--Man said:
Hagba not sure if u saw my message above.
Thanks omniphil, I'm wondering if this particular issue could be worked around since startup apps are working but only after a delay (see "UPDATE" above) by having a third party app monitor if a process is killed or having a Tasker profile to relaunch it right away, but then we are back in the same paradox where that third party app or Tasker profile would also be killed when "flicking up" to kill all apps.
@ajsmsg78 , @elio321 , @mcdhol_24 , @hagba , @Djiban:
Perhaps there is a certain third party app or Tasker profile can designate itself with "priority" mode of some sort and can bind itself to notifications or accessibility so that it would be relaunched? Please note I am just brainstorming here! Input would be gladly appreciated...
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Hi All and @ajsmsg78, @elio321, @mcdhol_24, @hagba, @Djiban, @omniphil,
I have noticed that unlike my other Protected apps, my SwiftKey keyboard app does not get killed when flicking up to close all apps using the Recent Apps button. I understand that this is obviously because the selected keyboard is required to stay in memory, but can't this or similar exception be leveraged to keep a Tasker profile in memory to relaunch critical apps?
Surely I am not the only unrooted user with this issue!
Thanks again.
I think the big question is, why are you swiping up to kill all apps? They aren't running in the background anyways, they are just place holders. There isn't really any need to kill all the background apps in android anymore, it uses more battery life. Just leave them all there and let android do what it was designed to do
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I think the big question is, why are you swiping up to kill all apps? They aren't running in the background anyways, they are just place holders. There isn't really any need to kill all the background apps in android anymore, it uses more battery life. Just leave them all there and let android do what it was designed to do
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Hi omniphil, I see what you are saying but killing unused apps does improve the device speed and save on battery usage including background data consumption. I understand that memory is automatically managed by killing apps when more memory is required but the above is not considered in this - just memory.
I fixed this issue by freezing the phone manager through titanium backup. I was also breaking my head over keeping the apps running in the background even if they were killed in the multitasker area. You do need to be rooted to use titanium backup. Hope this helps, it sure fixed the issue for me.
want an app to not be closed by swiping up? on the app itself, on the recents screen, swipe it down. now there's an icon showing on it, right? that means it won't be closed when you do the swipe up to close all apps.
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want an app to not be closed by swiping up? on the app itself, on the recents screen, swipe it down. now there's an icon showing on it, right? that means it won't be closed when you do the swipe up to close all apps.
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Hi this is true but only valid until next reboot.
can you disable phone manager with debloater software on Windows
Hi all. I have a SM-G930F on the latest UK BTU Nougat firmware. I have a fair bit of standby drain probably about 10% overnight with or without AOD. I also find the home button to respond kind of slow when closing apps but I dunno if that's just me. Anyway the whole point of this is can anybody recommend a stable ROM that would make the phone run smoother and have less standby drain?
The thing with the home button I mean is if you press it it can take a second or so sometimes before closing the app. I never seen my Xperia Z1 or Z2 do that like they close as soon as you tap it.
Also would triggering KNOX affect anything else on the phone apart from it just saying 0x1? I use the fingerprint sensor in apps also so I'm not sure if a custom ROM will disable that.
Sorry for all the questions and thanks in advance if anyone has any help to offer.
The home button delay can probably be fixed by disabling s-voice and/or double tap home button for camera
For standby drain, try clearing caches from recovery
Other things can be disabled without root using Package Disablers from the play store
*Detection* said:
The home button delay can probably be fixed by disabling s-voice and/or double tap home button for camera
For standby drain, try clearing caches from recovery
Other things can be disabled without root using Package Disablers from the play store
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Thanks. It does seem to respond faster with the camera quick launch on which is kind of awkward since I like having that option but I'll put up with it. Holding it launches Google at the minute. I'll have a look at the other stuff and see what standby drain is like from there too.
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Thanks. It does seem to respond faster with the camera quick launch on which is kind of awkward since I like having that option but I'll put up with it. Holding it launches Google at the minute. I'll have a look at the other stuff and see what standby drain is like from there too.
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Seems (With MM anyway) there are two quick launch settings for the same function, Applications > camera and in the actual camera settings too
For me disabling them both makes it faster than just one of them, although when you toggle one, it should toggle the other too, but doesn't appear too
EDIT - Correction, it appears 3 times, also in Settings > Advanced features
Not sure I see the need for the same function to be in three different locations, unless they're copying Windows 10 now
Is there a way how to disable possibility of screenshot by pressing VolDown and Power button? I hate this feauture and it makes screenshot even on pocket mode in my pocket....
Of course on rooted phone... Thanks for any suggestion!
You can disable the feature if you're rooted but you'll disable the ability to take any screen shot. If you're rooted you can use a quarantine app like app quarantine to disable the system app "screenshot". The package name is com.oneplus.screenshot. Personally is rather not be able to take any screen shots instead of taking them on accident several times a day. If you do this you're obviously doing it at your own risk.
Go to :
Settings->Sounds->More sound settings->Screenshot
https://photos.app.goo.gl/jR3cYjTPHaSdCAmp9
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You can disable the feature if you're rooted but you'll disable the ability to take any screen shot. If you're rooted you can use a quarantine app like app quarantine to disable the system app "screenshot". The package name is com.oneplus.screenshot. Personally is rather not be able to take any screen shots instead of taking them on accident several times a day. If you do this you're obviously doing it at your own risk.
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Works well, but I'd like to go back. Do you know if/how this can be done?
If you used an app such as "app quarantine" to freeze/disable the screenshot app you simple go the app and re-enable/thaw/unfreeze the screenshot app.