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[Q] Question before buying Gtab

Hi,
I am new to Android and I would like to get some help for a few questions before buying a Gtablet.
1) Flash support - I saw it's posted on the official website it has a temp version of flash player. Can I know if it works well? I need to watch high-def flash movies on different websites. I hope it can play smoothly. Also am I able to play facebook flash games?
2) RMVB/AVI/MKV support - I have tons of these kind of videos on my NAS server but the official site does not say they are supported. I heard there is a Rockplayer that can do it, but I went to their App Store and found no such software. Can i know a way to play these formats? If the hardware does not support them, and there is a software does, how is the quality and speed?
3) Local LAN share - I think I already googled there is one called EStrong, can I open my NAS file share folders, and play Video directly?
4) Customization - Can I install apps from anywhere instead of their app store? for example can i install Android Market? or install an app from a file?
That's pretty much what i concerns so far, other than that this is a great tablet!
I much appreciate your advices.

I can help with the first and fourth ones. This afternoon I watched an episode of outsourced on nbc.com. it wasnt perfect, but definatly viewable, and youtube videos all look fine for me. As for the last one, I have the android market installed, and I have also installed .apks that I have the file form so yea they do work.

re. 2, my son user rockplayer to watch some mkvs last weekend. I'm not that familiar w/anime, but he said it wasn't handling embedded softsubs. We did find another player on market that did but I don't remember the name.
re. 3, ES Explorer will copy files over lan (windows shares or ftp), but it's not for streaming.

Mkv support depends more on how it was encoded. I ripped some DVDs to mkv with 5.1 sound using handbrake and those will play in rockplayer using software decode fine.

japhule said:
Mkv support depends more on how it was encoded. I ripped some DVDs to mkv with 5.1 sound using handbrake and those will play in rockplayer using software decode fine.
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I should clarify my earlier post. We were able to watch the MKVs (animes) he had downloaded fine with rockplayer. But they had softsubs, and it wasn't showing those.
Jim

Re. 1, my wife uses the Gtab to watch Kdramas, on sites that stream flash, and it works pretty well. Served from sites like tudou, qdisk, etc., and works ok, but a lot of those sites sometimes have heavy traffic, and even with a PC, they get jerky, so it's not the Gtab, but the stream server and traffic usually.
Jim

chuugokujin said:
Hi,
I am new to Android and I would like to get some help for a few questions before buying a Gtablet.
1) Flash support - I saw it's posted on the official website it has a temp version of flash player. Can I know if it works well? I need to watch high-def flash movies on different websites. I hope it can play smoothly. Also am I able to play facebook flash games?
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Works on news sites, tv.com, hulu, but thats with vegan 5.1. The stock rom ran flash "ok" but would crash some times.
2) RMVB/AVI/MKV support - I have tons of these kind of videos on my NAS server but the official site does not say they are supported. I heard there is a Rockplayer that can do it, but I went to their App Store and found no such software. Can i know a way to play these formats? If the hardware does not support them, and there is a software does, how is the quality and speed?
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According to the specs It will play:
32-bit LP-DDR2, DDR2
S1080p H.264/H.263/ VC-1/MPEG-2/4/WMV9/DiVX 4/5 Video Decode
1080p H.264/MPEG-4 Video Encode
Supports multi-standard audio formats, including AAC, AMR, WMA, and MP3
Not all of those are working currently (some are and some aren't). Get yourself a good video encoder/dvd ripper for your computer and once they are encoded, you just drag and drop onto the gtab. If they are encoded properly with the proper settings, you get descent video quality.
4) Customization - Can I install apps from anywhere instead of their app store? for example can i install Android Market? or install an app from a file?
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Yes but you will need to do a couple updates using the developer instructions from here and then do a market fix. The easiest one is the simple performance pack update to the 3389 build with a market fix, however over 5,000 people have gone to vegan 5.1
http://vegantab.gojimi.com/
It is the best from what i can tell, wicked fast. It has two issues curently 1) Micro SD card management/file mgt 2) Keyboard auto correct. Updates seem to come out every 10 days to 2 weeks right now.

Thank you all!
Thanks a lot for your answers it helped me a lot!

Allenfx said:
Works on news sites, tv.com, hulu, but thats with vegan 5.1. The stock rom ran flash "ok" but would crash some times.
According to the specs It will play:
32-bit LP-DDR2, DDR2
S1080p H.264/H.263/ VC-1/MPEG-2/4/WMV9/DiVX 4/5 Video Decode
1080p H.264/MPEG-4 Video Encode
Supports multi-standard audio formats, including AAC, AMR, WMA, and MP3
Not all of those are working currently (some are and some aren't). Get yourself a good video encoder/dvd ripper for your computer and once they are encoded, you just drag and drop onto the gtab. If they are encoded properly with the proper settings, you get descent video quality.
Yes but you will need to do a couple updates using the developer instructions from here and then do a market fix. The easiest one is the simple performance pack update to the 3389 build with a market fix, however over 5,000 people have gone to vegan 5.1
http://vegantab.gojimi.com/
It is the best from what i can tell, wicked fast. It has two issues curently 1) Micro SD card management/file mgt 2) Keyboard auto correct. Updates seem to come out every 10 days to 2 weeks right now.
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That 5000 part is amazing to me. Having gone thru the Xmas 'recall' brouhaha, I had sometimes thought that there were like 10 of us Gtab users !!
Jim

Live TV via HDhomerun on Nexus Player

Can someone who has the Player and an HDhomerun give this apk a try? This looks promising for live TV on the Player...
http://www.silicondust.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=17417&sid=bb63bc6c6e9effc88c320d6a49247c7e

WhiteWidows said:
Can someone who has the Player and an HDhomerun give this apk a try? This looks promising for live TV on the Player...
http://www.silicondust.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=17417&sid=bb63bc6c6e9effc88c320d6a49247c7e
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I tried this last night. It does not work - it just searched for channels indefinitely. Also in the thread there is talk of it not working anymore even on the ADT1. I guess changes to lollipop broke the app.
Sent from my Nexus 5

Well hopefully they get this worked out this is my main reason to buy this so I can ditch comcraps cable boxes

That was broken with changes to Android TV by Google. But give Silicondust some time, they are probably working on a fixed version.
As someone who got to play around with it a lot on my ADT-1, I can say it worked pretty good for a test app on a test build of android tv.

WhiteWidows said:
Well hopefully they get this worked out this is my main reason to buy this so I can ditch comcraps cable boxes
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You can still do that without this. If you have an pc you can use as a pvr then there are xbmc addons that will enable you to watch/record live tv from the nexus player. Even better since you get pause/rewind as well, which I assume this app did not have given the lack of storage for live tv buffer on these devices.
Sent from my Nexus 5

I got mythbutnu set up I'm just not a fan of the xbmc style channel guide. Seems like they were working on a lean back style interface with this app that I was interested in

SiliconDust VIEW app works outside TV Input
The latest update to SiliconDust's HDHomeRun VIEW app hit the Play Store on Friday. While it doesn't tune properly from within the TV Input Plugin on my Nexus Player, I can access my channels perfectly by launching the VIEW app itself (which has the same interface as on a tablet). While it's not showing up in the Play Store on the Nexus Player, you can install it from the web version of the store and it will show up properly in the leanback launcher.
The activity on their development forum for Android TV makes me hopeful that they'll have it sorted out soon. The changelog listed support for Android L and Android TV, but only stated support for the ADT-1. I assume some of the remaining issues may be having to do with ARM vs x86, but I don't have an ADT-1 so I can't be sure they don't have the same problems at this stage.

so if the apps works can you tell us does the video stutter when viewing hd channels?
so if the apps works can you tell us does the video stutter when viewing hd channels?

swainr said:
I can access my channels perfectly by launching the VIEW app itself
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Which HomeRun device do you have?

angelorg74 said:
so if the apps works can you tell us does the video stutter when viewing hd channels?
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It doesn't stutter for me.
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Which HomeRun device do you have?
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Works on my hd homerun prime.
Sent from my Nexus 5

Do you have an AC router
I have a trebdnet AC 1900. Still stutters om HD from time tv time. It may be that the quad atom processor have more power than the amazon fire processor or it may be that it takes advantage of the AC speeds.

Yeah forgot that I have a usb ethernet adapter. Maybe that's why mine doesn't stutter.
Sent from my Nexus 5

I have a HDhomerun Dual. The View app works for me on Nexus Player. Seems like there's a little stutter in picture every now and again (unit is about 1 foot from an asus 68u). But may just be my imagination. Def better than on my Nexus 5 tho, which is practically unwatchable even 10 feet from the router.

Turns out the View app works for my Prime as well. The TV app only gives audio, and only on some channels.

Another app to try
xBIGREDDx said:
Turns out the View app works for my Prime as well. The TV app only gives audio, and only on some channels.
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If you can not get it to load email the developer and see if he can give you a beta so you can try it on the Nexus player. It is better than the HD homerun app on the market. It is called Tune N View it works if the Mysterious Nexus box plays MP2, MP4 and AC-2 audio if it does not support natively it does not work. It works on Minix 8 and other boxes that support those video and audio formats. If this does not work I will place my order of this box on Ebay and just return it and work with what I have. I called Nexus support and they could not tell me which video and audio formats this device supports, really? That's like buying a car and the dealership not knowing what engine it has. I am trying this although I have a fully rooted amazon fire tv which works great. I am hoping this device can deliver with this app and the following:
Root to install external hard drive
My nexus 4 has 16 gigs whats up with 8 gigs?
XMBC (just in case Tune N View does not work)
xbox 360 wireless control support

Hdhomerun App
Finally I was able to compare Nexus Player vs Fire Tv for usage with my homerun prime. I can say that it most be the combination of the Asus AC1900 that I got along with the processor which makes it work alot before with much less stutter then with the fire tv box. The one gripe I have with Nexus why provide much less video codecs support off the bat compared to google tv boxes like my sony box. Tune N View works great on Google Tv (one of the few apps I love on Google TV). Basically less stutter device has less power put they have the needed video and audio codecs. The developer is always involved and did I already mentioned that is better than the official Hdhomerun App. Nexus next time don't be cheap and have those video codecs you know that your getting a geeky crowd to buy these type of devices. Overall I believe I will keep this device now that the Hdhomerun is working better on this device. You can also use the DLNA support on Xmbc for viewing channels as well, FYI.

Can anyone make the Tune n View apk available.
With root & running LolliRock, the "No Carrier ASUS FUGU" aka Nexus Player, is not eligible to download the app via web, and I cannot seem to locate a legit apk to sideload.

Looking for this APK as well...
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Can anyone make the Tune n View apk available.
With root & running LolliRock, the "No Carrier ASUS FUGU" aka Nexus Player, is not eligible to download the app via web, and I cannot seem to locate a legit apk to sideload.
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My NP is unrooted but I'm sideloading apps to try them out and I would love of copy of this apk as well. Can't seem to install or download from the Play store either. Thanks.
I'll be curious to see once the VLC for NP is updated to work with streaming over network. That could be a solid option as well.
Thanks.
Dan

I purchased an HDHomeRun Prime and it worked great for wired devices on my network. But it didn't work so great in my dualband 5g wireless setup. So that translated to an awful experience with my Nexus Player. I wonder if it is because it seemingly doesn't compress the Live TV cable stream out of the HDhomerun (mpeg or transport stream 'ts' output).
Instead of trying to load a usb wired network connection on my NP, I just sent the device back and got a refund. Great in theory, not so pretty in real world application.

s6 DLNA

on my s5 when i played a video i had the small icon on the top of the player when i hit it i could stream it to my tv or xbox ect.
i read that The video player has been simplified too and the DLNA view is gone. You can still send video files to DLNA players or use screen mirroring.
how do you send the video to dlna players now ?
the only way i can find to do this is to open quick connect then select the files i want to play then stream them, less then ideal and slow at going through the multiple steps.

bUMP ... in the night ....
anyone at all please ///

The S6 isn't officially supported for screen casting yet. Expect to see see that icon return to the stock player then. I have been trying to play with chromecast screen casting and it is crashing constantly. Hopefully they update the chromecast app soon. As for DLNA I haven't seen an option For it in the stock software, grab bubbleupnp from the play and you can stream again.

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The S6 isn't officially supported for screen casting yet. Expect to see see that icon return to the stock player then. I have been trying to play with chromecast screen casting and it is crashing constantly. Hopefully they update the chromecast app soon. As for DLNA I haven't seen an option For it in the stock software, grab bubbleupnp from the play and you can stream again.
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ya hoping they bring back that icon to the stock player , i ben useing bubbleupnp but much prefer stock dlna icon , thanks for the info.
hmm As for DLNA does any 5.0x devices have it working ? guessing no

So? any idea if dlna is gonna be Supported on s6?

In the video player, hit More->Share->View Content On.

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In the video player, hit More->Share->View Content On.
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Hi guys. On my old Galaxy S5 in the video player i was able to see and play movies directly from an external HDD connected to the router (nearby devices tab). Now on my new Galaxy S6 Edge i can't do that anymore. Someone knows how can i see and play movies form the external HDD connected to an Asus router? Thanks!

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In the video player, hit More->Share->View Content On.
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No that doesnt work. I confirm no dlna on s6 after 5.1.1 upgrade.
Looks its a strategy of samsung because note 4 doesnt have dlna as well (and didnget it long after launch).
But no one seems to care about here? Im pretty decieved , but now sony are making great phones. I will trade mine for z4 or 5 if i find the oppurtunity
Bye samsung
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The S6 isn't officially supported for screen casting yet. Expect to see see that icon return to the stock player then. I have been trying to play with chromecast screen casting and it is crashing constantly. Hopefully they update the chromecast app soon. As for DLNA I haven't seen an option For it in the stock software, grab bubbleupnp from the play and you can stream again.
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Note 4 doesnt yet have it and was launched sept 2014. No it was dropped on purpse by samsung. Sadly i didnt know that before i bought s6 . No review mentionned it because it strangely dsnt look important for most users i assume.

Download a 3rd party app like Skifta! It worked on an older phone. It's the best dlna app.

3ayachi said:
No that doesnt work. I confirm no dlna on s6 after 5.1.1 upgrade.
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As fun as it is to be indirectly told I'm either A) wrong or B) lying, I promise you that this works on my S6 after the 5.1.1 upgrade. I use it all the time. Maybe it's carrier-specific? What carrier are you on? What video app are you using?
And when you say "That doesn't work" (tech support person's dream), what do you mean? Do you not see the option? Do you see the option, but no destination? Do you see the destination, but the content doesn't transfer?

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As fun as it is to be indirectly told I'm either A) wrong or B) lying, I promise you that this works on my S6 after the 5.1.1 upgrade. I use it all the time. Maybe it's carrier-specific? What carrier are you on? What video app are you using?
And when you say "That doesn't work" (tech support person's dream), what do you mean? Do you not see the option? Do you see the option, but no destination? Do you see the destination, but the content doesn't transfer?
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Sorry for the misunderstand, I dont want to tell you are lying. The option exists but it doent work with windows media player on my pc (that is my only use of dlna since i have no connected tv ..) with the exact same configuration that used to work with my s4
Im under 5.1.1 / 920f / windows 10 / wmp
So could you tell if it works with your pc ?
Moreover samsung didnt mention its dlna support at launch (wich i thought they simply forgot such a basic feature ) neither announced it was back wih 5.1.1
Sorry again for any bad impression i left earlier.

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Sorry again for any bad impression i left earlier.
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Thanks, and no worries. My response was a bit tongue-in-cheek.
I think the problem stems from you asking about something different from the initial question. The initial question was how to send content from the phone to the TV, which is what I answered, and which does work, and which is, I believe, DLNA.
What you seem to be asking about is how to view content from your PC on your phone. I'll admit that I had a mighty struggle with that, even on the S4, so I have never tried it with the S6. If you got it working on the S4, you're already a step ahead of me. I never bothered with trying to do it on the S6, and if I want to view content on my phone, I just transfer it over either by hooking up a cable or by using FileDrop, although the latter is kind of slow.

Now I can be more precise about my problem. I can't share content between WMP under windows 10 and my S6 , thing that I did easily with my S4 with the same configuration.
I thought first that it was due to DLNA incompatibility since it was not present in the S6 launch. But now I tried on a smart TV and it works great. Still though I can't detect my phone with WMP and vice versa. I think that is DLNA as well so no reason it doesn't work.
If someone can do than it should come from my settings. Otherwise It's something samsung deleted.
Edit: third party DLNA apps work well.. so the problem is with samsung video app. What a shame they drop such options!

MXQ Android TV Box & Amazon Video

Afternoon all,
Just looking for a bit of advice, I've recently bought a MXQ Android TV Box which I hoped to use on our main tv for Amazon Prime Video. I've installed the apk from the amazon website and logged into my account, I can see all the tv and films on offer although when I click to play the file I get the usual orange circle and then the screen goes black and I get redirected back to the choose a video. Seems to work file on my Samsung Tablet and Justop windows mini pc.
Any tried Amazon videos with one of these recently? Any help would be great.
Cheers
Dave

Looks like the trailers are working fine

I have had similar issues with the recent versions of the Amazon video apps. I began to think they just want their fire TV to dominate the tv. I now use a older version of their app side loaded from my 6 year old Sony goggle tv blue ray player which i never update.. It basically gives the Web site for the interface but at least it works. You might use yor Web browser and save the amazon video page as a bookmark on your desktop.

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I have had similar issues with the recent versions of the Amazon video apps. I began to think they just want their fire TV to dominate the tv. I now use a older version of their app side loaded from my 6 year old Sony goggle tv blue ray player which i never update.. It basically gives the Web site for the interface but at least it works. You might use yor Web browser and save the amazon video page as a bookmark on your desktop.
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Tried dolphin, Firefox & Chrome to play the videos with no luck on the website. Same as you now though I found an old apk and installed that which plays the videos from the website. ?

I too have the same problem with Amazon prime video on my MXQ. Did anyone find any solution​

Same here
Any news about that, i have the same issue, the app installe dcorectly, but when i run the stream .. it says that the app encounted some error.

@RG GEIGER , @DaveG46
What version of the old apk did you find?

Sorry @neffly27 I've since switched to the fire TV cube which has its own set of limitations but happy so far. Anyway I'm not sure of the version of the app I used on my mx box but it was years ago from the original goggle tv on a Sony DVD player.

p20 pro problems with deezer and tidal

Hello everyone,
There's a strange problem with the device, I do not know if anyone else has come across it yet. As I know the device supports the flac file.
Both apps do not play flac files.
deezer plays some songs and then pops a message "the requested content is not loading"
This happens both through wfi and when I use the cellular network. I have no problem using a router for 4k content in Netflix. Deezer's technical support says they have no idea what I'm talking about.
I checked the app on Samsung A8 with the same router, the app works great.
I suspect it's something to do with settings, or a software problem.
I've tried so far:
1. Change the application management to manual management
2. Cancel lte volte
3. Delete and reinstall the app
4. Reset device to factory settings
Does anybody have any idea?
Thanks in advance

Not sure about FLAC, but I have Deezer and using with my P20 Pro (Canadian version) and do not have any trouble.
If you give some tips to test FLAC with my phone, I will do it quickly, I am curious.

I was under the impression that Deezer hifi wasn't available through the android app for normal download/streaming. It's only available for streaming to Chromecast or similar. At least that's the only options I have.

Saison2018 said:
Not sure about FLAC, but I have Deezer and using with my P20 Pro (Canadian version) and do not have any trouble.
If you give some tips to test FLAC with my phone, I will do it quickly, I am curious.
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you can look at my youtube video it will give you the impretiom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpEh6W7uiw0
you can try to upgrade your plan at deezer to wfi without cost(trail)
i dont have problems with the regular plan mp3 360 kbs
nor with spotify
thanks man

Gitbags said:
I was under the impression that Deezer hifi wasn't available through the android app for normal download/streaming. It's only available for streaming to Chromecast or similar. At least that's the only options I have.
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no.
deezer offering flac plan for andrid users as well.
this is the only reason i using this app.
tidal app making greater problems with hifi plan
you sould try it yourself.
this isnt happening instantly, its happening after few songs that are playing in the p20 pro.
if you will look in the web and run the error message "The request content cant load" deezer you will see others that reporting it.

yoadfe said:
you can look at my youtube video it will give you the impretiom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpEh6W7uiw0
you can try to upgrade your plan at deezer to wfi without cost(trail)
i dont have problems with the regular plan mp3 360 kbs
nor with spotify
thanks man
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My apologies, I am on Deezer Premium Trial and I can not switch to Hifi without being charged full cost.
Really sorry, I am really curious.
Hope someone could test and take us noticed.

I have no option to stream hifi, yet I have the correct account and can stream flac on my pc and squeezebox (ick stream).
And from what I can see from deezer's support android only works through casting to another supported device, otherwise it's 320kbs HQ
support.deezer.com/hc/en-gb/articles/115004588345-Deezer-HiFi
Even deezer's forum has stated that neither iOS or Android support direct steaming in Hifi yet.
en.deezercommunity.com/got-an-idea-9/hifi-compatibility-on-all-devices-1307/index5.html
Are you using your phone with headphones or Bluetooth? Or casting to another device?

Gitbags said:
I have no option to stream hifi, yet I have the correct account and can stream flac on my pc and squeezebox (ick stream).
And from what I can see from deezer's support android only works through casting to another supported device, otherwise it's 320kbs HQ
support.deezer.com/hc/en-gb/articles/115004588345-Deezer-HiFi
Even deezer's forum has stated that neither iOS or Android support direct steaming in Hifi yet.
en.deezercommunity.com/got-an-idea-9/hifi-compatibility-on-all-devices-1307/index5.html
Are you using your phone with headphones or Bluetooth? Or casting to another device?
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thanks for checking it up!
most of the time im streaming it via Bluetooth to my car head unit with no problems
the problems start when im using my p20 pro without streaming (no headphones as well)
question, even if android cant support hifi playing without streaming to another device
why my p20 pro is working and then after few songs getting jam? even more what kind of sound quality my p20 is outputting? cuz im still getting hifi symbol when im playing songs direct from the p20.
have you look at my video? you can see it.
another thing, its not ok that deezer dosent saying anything in the ad that show that hifi plan
its kind of stupid.

Just watched your video, HQ is 320kbs MP3 not flac I'm afraid.
As for the loading issue I can't say I've experienced any problems (UK based if it makes any difference) but I'll have a play and see if I can replicate it.

Gitbags said:
Just watched your video, HQ is 320kbs MP3 not flac I'm afraid.
As for the loading issue I can't say I've experienced any problems (UK based if it makes any difference) but I'll have a play and see if I can replicate it.
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i think i understand what happen.
i took the hifi plan via pc (this is why you didnt saw hifi plan option in your p20)
i think this is why my p20 is jaming when its playing music.
i didnt notice that hq =mp3
i think that they should have mention the android limitation in the plan page in advance
this is the only reason that i took it. in 2019 its funny that android cant do it direct
i should downgrade my plan
thanks mate

No worries.
I agree it's daft that they have limited their market for their hifi subscription by making it available through a select number of products. It does seem a pretty half-hearted attempt to compete with tidals flac streaming.
But allegedly it's coming......