[Q] Question before buying Gtab - G Tablet General

Hi,
I am new to Android and I would like to get some help for a few questions before buying a Gtablet.
1) Flash support - I saw it's posted on the official website it has a temp version of flash player. Can I know if it works well? I need to watch high-def flash movies on different websites. I hope it can play smoothly. Also am I able to play facebook flash games?
2) RMVB/AVI/MKV support - I have tons of these kind of videos on my NAS server but the official site does not say they are supported. I heard there is a Rockplayer that can do it, but I went to their App Store and found no such software. Can i know a way to play these formats? If the hardware does not support them, and there is a software does, how is the quality and speed?
3) Local LAN share - I think I already googled there is one called EStrong, can I open my NAS file share folders, and play Video directly?
4) Customization - Can I install apps from anywhere instead of their app store? for example can i install Android Market? or install an app from a file?
That's pretty much what i concerns so far, other than that this is a great tablet!
I much appreciate your advices.

I can help with the first and fourth ones. This afternoon I watched an episode of outsourced on nbc.com. it wasnt perfect, but definatly viewable, and youtube videos all look fine for me. As for the last one, I have the android market installed, and I have also installed .apks that I have the file form so yea they do work.

re. 2, my son user rockplayer to watch some mkvs last weekend. I'm not that familiar w/anime, but he said it wasn't handling embedded softsubs. We did find another player on market that did but I don't remember the name.
re. 3, ES Explorer will copy files over lan (windows shares or ftp), but it's not for streaming.

Mkv support depends more on how it was encoded. I ripped some DVDs to mkv with 5.1 sound using handbrake and those will play in rockplayer using software decode fine.

japhule said:
Mkv support depends more on how it was encoded. I ripped some DVDs to mkv with 5.1 sound using handbrake and those will play in rockplayer using software decode fine.
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I should clarify my earlier post. We were able to watch the MKVs (animes) he had downloaded fine with rockplayer. But they had softsubs, and it wasn't showing those.
Jim

Re. 1, my wife uses the Gtab to watch Kdramas, on sites that stream flash, and it works pretty well. Served from sites like tudou, qdisk, etc., and works ok, but a lot of those sites sometimes have heavy traffic, and even with a PC, they get jerky, so it's not the Gtab, but the stream server and traffic usually.
Jim

chuugokujin said:
Hi,
I am new to Android and I would like to get some help for a few questions before buying a Gtablet.
1) Flash support - I saw it's posted on the official website it has a temp version of flash player. Can I know if it works well? I need to watch high-def flash movies on different websites. I hope it can play smoothly. Also am I able to play facebook flash games?
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Works on news sites, tv.com, hulu, but thats with vegan 5.1. The stock rom ran flash "ok" but would crash some times.
2) RMVB/AVI/MKV support - I have tons of these kind of videos on my NAS server but the official site does not say they are supported. I heard there is a Rockplayer that can do it, but I went to their App Store and found no such software. Can i know a way to play these formats? If the hardware does not support them, and there is a software does, how is the quality and speed?
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According to the specs It will play:
32-bit LP-DDR2, DDR2
S1080p H.264/H.263/ VC-1/MPEG-2/4/WMV9/DiVX 4/5 Video Decode
1080p H.264/MPEG-4 Video Encode
Supports multi-standard audio formats, including AAC, AMR, WMA, and MP3
Not all of those are working currently (some are and some aren't). Get yourself a good video encoder/dvd ripper for your computer and once they are encoded, you just drag and drop onto the gtab. If they are encoded properly with the proper settings, you get descent video quality.
4) Customization - Can I install apps from anywhere instead of their app store? for example can i install Android Market? or install an app from a file?
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Yes but you will need to do a couple updates using the developer instructions from here and then do a market fix. The easiest one is the simple performance pack update to the 3389 build with a market fix, however over 5,000 people have gone to vegan 5.1
http://vegantab.gojimi.com/
It is the best from what i can tell, wicked fast. It has two issues curently 1) Micro SD card management/file mgt 2) Keyboard auto correct. Updates seem to come out every 10 days to 2 weeks right now.

Thank you all!
Thanks a lot for your answers it helped me a lot!

Allenfx said:
Works on news sites, tv.com, hulu, but thats with vegan 5.1. The stock rom ran flash "ok" but would crash some times.
According to the specs It will play:
32-bit LP-DDR2, DDR2
S1080p H.264/H.263/ VC-1/MPEG-2/4/WMV9/DiVX 4/5 Video Decode
1080p H.264/MPEG-4 Video Encode
Supports multi-standard audio formats, including AAC, AMR, WMA, and MP3
Not all of those are working currently (some are and some aren't). Get yourself a good video encoder/dvd ripper for your computer and once they are encoded, you just drag and drop onto the gtab. If they are encoded properly with the proper settings, you get descent video quality.
Yes but you will need to do a couple updates using the developer instructions from here and then do a market fix. The easiest one is the simple performance pack update to the 3389 build with a market fix, however over 5,000 people have gone to vegan 5.1
http://vegantab.gojimi.com/
It is the best from what i can tell, wicked fast. It has two issues curently 1) Micro SD card management/file mgt 2) Keyboard auto correct. Updates seem to come out every 10 days to 2 weeks right now.
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That 5000 part is amazing to me. Having gone thru the Xmas 'recall' brouhaha, I had sometimes thought that there were like 10 of us Gtab users !!
Jim

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Xvid Playback?

is an app required? i have 2 xvid files on my sdcard and neither mvideoplayer or video player see them
use encodehd and convert them to mp4.
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is an app required? i have 2 xvid files on my sdcard and neither mvideoplayer or video player see them
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Try "yxflash" from the market. It claims to be able to play WMV, DivX & Xvid... Haven't tried it myself though.
It's a $19.99 app that has to be purchased outside the market though... I don't like the way they're trying to conduct business.
Try meridian from the market. Haven't tested xvid yet but seems to play things otherwise built in on my mytouch couldn't haven't gotten that far.
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It's a $19.99 app that has to be purchased outside the market though... I don't like the way they're trying to conduct business.
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Yea. They're kinda shady since they call it free then charge you to use it.
I'm guessing, if it does actually work, he doesn't want some rooted dirtbag downloading and refunding to add to the plethora of pirated apps. I haven't seen the app yet, but I figure if allows google checkout, it should be as safe as any other purchase via google checkout.
isn't there a samsung android phone with divx support builtin? I'm pretty sure I read that some where. Wonder if someone is working on some sort of port...
there are two android phones which play divx/xvid out of the box. one from samsung and the other from lg. getting the drivers/media player ported from either of these phones would be a big plus from me. i know i could convert media before hand, however i use my memory card as a "memory stick" which i bring in to work to watch on the PC during lunch. being able to play the same files on the phone when i'm on the bus/train would be so much easier.
try doubletwist if you're on Windows/Mac... no linux version yet
it will convert them to play on android by just dragging them over to the device...
I can confirm that yxflash works on my G1. I just download a divx movie (about 700 mb) and play it. Unfortunately the frame rate is about 15 f/s. Hope on Nexus One it will be much better.
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It's a $19.99 app that has to be purchased outside the market though... I don't like the way they're trying to conduct business.
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btw, they still have xmas, you can get 50% off while using coupon code "xmas".
Still too expensive for my opinion, but hey, they come from the apple universum where all have too much money.
Now this post isnt going to be of much use because i couldnt find all the links i was after..... however
There were people requesting the samsung xvid/divx player be ported out back on the G1. Seems that one of XDA's members lbcoder has some decent incite on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566591&highlight=divx
He posted
divx is just an implementation of iso mpeg4.
So...
to make it play you need to;
1) ensure that bitrate and resolution are low enough to be properly handled,
2) package it in a compatible container (mp4 works)
3) ensure that the AUDIO is encoded in a compatible manner (vorbis is great, but others also work, mp3, aac, etc.)
4) ensure that there is no crap in the file showing that it is divx because it simply doesn't know what divx *IS* -- make it read as mpeg4 -- this does NOT require reencoding the file, just using a SANE header.
brotbuexe said:
btw, they still have xmas, you can get 50% off while using coupon code "xmas".
Still too expensive for my opinion, but hey, they come from the apple universum where all have too much money.
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I thought $10 wasn't bad. It plays awesome on the N1. It takes me 10 minuted to download a Divx movie, but 30 mins to convert. Over the course of several months, I would save a ton of time converting movies. I can download directly to the SD card via browser and play with yxflash.
Yes, having to purchase outside the market is shady, but I have contacted them several times with issues and they resolved them within one day.
Found the app via market at first glance i thought nah **** it because of the bad rating.. at second glance i actually took the time to read the comments, turns out most of the comments where bad/laggy playback, witch was partly due to Magic / Heros hardware, and the resizing requirements..
ive installed the trial, and it plays beautifully.. although sometimes i do get some lines across the screen, but they are hard to notice...
Price is still a bit high thou! :/ im gonna give it a month or two to see if a cheaper alternative shows up, and hopefully by that time Google will have opened up the market in Denmark.
used yxflash to play an hd copy of ice age 3 in xvid, ran nearly perfect, every so often there is some frame skip

Any confirmation to any working divx, flv, mkv rm player?

Hi
I would like to know for your xperia x10, which android apps works and which doesn't?
I have only tried the xyflash trial, and it did not play divx nor h294 in mkv.
I don't want to convert every movie (as it take times). Hopefully something work on xperia will come soon. (i want confirmation before i buy the apps too).
try using blapk market (probably find it on the web only) the developer created it so people could try full version of certain apps without having the feeling of being robbed! but if it does what it claims it should, then out of respect, you should buy the full version from the developers!
ive tried a yxflash version from that market.. not sure if theres a more recent update to it now but it worked ok.. i gues! not sure if it'll be the same for everyone but from what ive tested, avi and divx files worked which is cool but unfortunately i noticed that around 10 minz (im guesin here) the video would freeze (just the clip not the app), yet the audio would continue as normal.
hope any of this helps!!
Well I can confirm that the latest available update for this program has fixed the issue of video freezing! Divx worked well and as 4 avi you can see it reacting slightly slow but some people may be able to live with it for time being until an update can address the issue.
Use YXflash. it work g8t.
I use yxflash, its not bad, i wish i could get the full version free though.
Yxflash still very slow on divx.
I tried many apps so far, i still have yet see a functional H.264 mkv one.
at the back of the phone it said quicktime enable, isn't h.264 apple's ? and mediascape as usual, useless.
Yxflash played divx quite smooth 4 me
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How do you use the blapk market? i have installed it but i cannot see any apps...tried adding repos, wouldnt work? does this mean it has been shut down again?
Once you put repos you go to main screen then menu and hit update..
If that doesn't work you can visit the site at www.blackdroid.net, there forum is useful an all..
Hope it helps!
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try to use Wuzhenhua Player v4.1, it has support for a wide range of audio and video formats incl flv & rm. it's in Chinese but few buttons are easy to understand
http://mobiputing.com/tag/wuzhenhua-player/
within link above there is a ref to a thread in xda, post 76 you'll find english ver
I checked it out since i am chinese myself, i even got the chinese market place apps. I can't find anything better. yxflash doesn't seem to work for some divx (anime one) and more anime fansub are in MKV/H264 these days.
Wuzhen does play some divx yxflash doesn't play and vice versa. I guess i will just read manga on the subway.
I use RockPlayer, which works a treat... I don't have a heap of movies, so I don't know exactly what it plays, but it sure plays more than the inbuilt media players... and it does it better - no lags, etc...
RockPlayer, search no further, app is amazing, YX Player is a joke compared to this one.
it doesn't seem to work as well as it thought to be, it does move and all but i see big lags.
I think it have to do with the size of the anime i am trying to watch.
RockPlayer, search no further, app is amazing, YX Player is a joke compared to this one.
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Couldn't have said it better myself!! lol
whatz the size of this file? and are you talkin bout these issues on rockplayer, not yxflash?
Cause I have rockplayer and i've used a 1Gb file and framerate was running near 25 frames/sec and had no lag whatsoever!
There's someone who's played a movie (1080i) at 30f/sec without lag..
Maybe something on ya phone is blocking its true potential?
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Another vote for Rock player.
I seem to have problems with Rock Player if I use my MW600.. But only when I'm playing divx/xvid.
I hear a crackling sound. If I turn off my headset, the problem is gone.
Am I the only one with this problem? Should I start using Wuzhenhua ?
I use Rockplayer, it is by far the best one out there, no lag on my XviD collection
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-more-on-your-android-device-with-rockplayer/
This beta only work till July 15th, but I hope they will release another one before that.
yxflash is good ..
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yxflash is good ..
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I used to think that too until this baby came into my life! trust.. this totally beats it hands down!!
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RockPlayer: First public beta available

We released first public beta of RockPlayer just several minutes ago.
RockPlayer can play most kinds of video files including avi, mkv, rmvb, flv, mp4, 3gp, wmv, mov, asf, divx, xvid, and h264 formats. This version supports android versions from 1.6 to 2.2. It requires an armv6 or armv7 CPU with vfp instruction set. Sorry G1/Magic/Hero users, your phone's CPU didn't have vfp.
This forum prevented me from posting external links. So please replace # with dot in following links:
Download link: http://groups.google.com/hk/group/rockplayer/files
Official forum: http://www.diffthink.com/forum/
Please also note this is a beta version and would expire on July 15.
Thanks for support.
Thats great news
When I try to adjust the volume it does it for the ringer and not the video MOST the time, but not all the time. I usually have to hit play and pause a bunch and then do the volume to adjust the media volume. Using the motorola droid.
Thanks will go and give it a try
When I try to adjust the volume it does it for the ringer and not the video MOST the time, but not all the time. I usually have to hit play and pause a bunch and then do the volume to adjust the media volume. Using the motorola droid.
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You can only adjust media volume while media is playing. If it's paused there's no volume to adjust.
Loving the beta so far.
Bandwidth exceeded. Is there a mirror?
You can download it here.
Does anybody know if this play .asx files? I want to use it with orb
thanks in advance
The July 15 expiration can be removed! It is not so hard.
Now i patched it for myself.
Does anyone else have issues with playing certain files?
When I try to play MKV files on my N1 (running kang-o-rama 0.8 final) it will not play properly at all. Also, when I try to play FLV files I just get audio, no video.
And eventually I would like to see subtitle support. Yeah I know I'm picky, but I like to watch anime on my phone
opensky2... Congrats on the release. Have you licensed the decoders you are distributing? ie; MP3, AAC, ASP, AVC, etc. I don't see you listed as a licensee on the MPEGLA website for either AVC or ASP. Also... What about links to the FFmpeg source code that you are using?
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The July 15 expiration can be removed! It is not so hard.
Now i patched it for myself.
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This product is being provided in good faith as a beta test after the original closed beta was leaked. It looks like it's a great app and a first for android - it's obviously taken time and effort to develop and I'm sure most here would be prepared to pay for the final product.
Please don't put other developers off making the effort to bring cool things to android by abusing the trust the developers are giving us here.
folks..i can't seem to open any files.
tried 4 different avi's. all of them bring the app back to the folder selection screen.
running on cyanogen 5.0.8 android 2.2 on my HTC magic.
i tried uninstalling + reinstalling the player twice as well.
any suggestions?
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folks..i can't seem to open any files.
tried 4 different avi's. all of them bring the app back to the folder selection screen.
running on cyanogen 5.0.8 android 2.2 on my HTC magic.
i tried uninstalling + reinstalling the player twice as well.
any suggestions?
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It won't work on Magic, as it doesn't have any of the required cpus.
Downloaded a house episode, full fps on an unedited avi 320mb video, full screen options dosnt distore screen like the demo version.
great! this is exactly what i've been looking for. im definitely willing to pay.
two areas for potential improvement that i've noticed...
1. i cant access the internal memory on my htc incredible. only sd card.
2. i cant set this as the default video player on my phone. ...this would allow a workaround of #1 by using astro file manager to access my files and open them from there.
the 2nd one is more important to me, personally. i would be accessing my videos on my home server and opening them via astro to play over my network.
other than that, this is awesome!
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could someone post a mirror?
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could someone post a mirror?
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first page, about half way down, of this thread has a mirror.
Thanks, I missed it earlier.
Sorry I'm a newb but will this work on an htc legend?

[Q] Thinking about buying a Xoom - can it do this?

1) napster to go - subscription DRM music
2) stream netflix
3) pandora
4) render heavy splash sites well - my daughts is 7 and loves her disney.com, nickelodeon.com, etc
5) have an app (pay or free) that can play almost any video file
1. Yes theres a napster subscription app you can download.
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes, games play fine, a little laggy sometimes, and since you dont have a keyboard while they are running you'll have to work something out.
5. Yes, Moboplayer and QQ Player seem to play everything out there.
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5) have an app (pay or free) that can play almost any video file
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Sorry to say but video support is limited.
Eg you download blue ray rip (even in 720p) then it does not play all the time.
In short Xoom plays H264 movies smoothly if encoded with baseline profile.
You can play 1cd dvdrips with Mobo or bs player.
You may be required to convert video.
thebrenda said:
1) napster to go - subscription DRM music
2) stream netflix
3) pandora
4) render heavy splash sites well - my daughts is 7 and loves her disney.com, nickelodeon.com, etc
5) have an app (pay or free) that can play almost any video file
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Yes, I think so...mostly.
1) I use Rhapsody to Go
2) Netflix--I don't use it
3) Pandora's fine
4)Yes, Disney site works fine, depending on your internet connection, of course
5)Mobo, Dice or Rockplayer lite seem to play just about anything
Xoom is great for most media as you can also load up a lot of fies on your sdcard (or usb drive if you root), so you'll never run out of space.
It seems like your major interest is in listening to and watching media files, andyou may also want to consider that the Xoom does so much more than play media and games---I believe the Xoom is the best overall tablet available. The Xoom is a serious working tablet computer that likes to have fun, too, so hopefully you have plans for it as well. It's also absolutely perfect when unlocked, rooted and customized...
Not sure how I will use the tablet, to be honest. Trying to find justification for it. But I know that my 7 year old will love using it and I love music and video. So those are must haves.
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Not sure how I will use the tablet, to be honest. Trying to find justification for it. But I know that my 7 year old will love using it and I love music and video. So those are must haves.
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If you mostly want something for simple, accessable media, you should probably be looking at an Ipad, though no flash, no sd card etc. The Xoom is very sturdy, but a smart and inquisitive child can do some pretty funky things to it, especially if you have root (which will give you most of the goodies, IMHO).
cartoon films look very good on xoom like planet51

[Q] Hulu and 1080p

I'm considering dropping my iPhone and moving over to the Infuse. That large screen is calling to me.
I have a Nook Color that I have rooted and installed Gingerbread on (thanks to this site) and I really like it. My first question is about Flash and Hulu.com. On my Nook I was able to install a cracked version of Flash that allows me to go directly to Hulu.com and play the videos there in browser. Is that possible on the Infuse?
And my other question was is this phone capable of 1080p playback. My old 3Gs just can't handle it and the Nook will chug along but playback is very slow. I have several videos that are 1080p that I would like to play without having to convert them all first. I saw another thread that the device could play them but not after it had been rooted. Which I guess I'll have to do if I want to play Hulu files.
Thank you.
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I'm considering dropping my iPhone and moving over to the Infuse. That large screen is calling to me.
I have a Nook Color that I have rooted and installed Gingerbread on (thanks to this site) and I really like it. My first question is about Flash and Hulu.com. On my Nook I was able to install a cracked version of Flash that allows me to go directly to Hulu.com and play the videos there in browser. Is that possible on the Infuse?
And my other question was is this phone capable of 1080p playback. My old 3Gs just can't handle it and the Nook will chug along but playback is very slow. I have several videos that are 1080p that I would like to play without having to convert them all first. I saw another thread that the device could play them but not after it had been rooted. Which I guess I'll have to do if I want to play Hulu files.
Thank you.
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Yes it has some ability to play 1080p. Actually more than some Tegra2 dual core devices.
So despite the year old processor it is still able to compete. And Samsung has been putting in multiple codec support and support for mkv sinse the original galaxy s 2 years ago. Multimedia is their area of specialty on phones. Not every 1080 p file will play but you may be able to transcode them to a lower class or bitrate or change the audio encoding which I find is most often the problem on files that don't play.
Also the browser while not the smoothest has a user agent setting accessable in the address bar by typing " about:useragent" just replace the lib for the flashplayer with one that is hex edited to look like the windows flash player and set useragent to desktop ( you can even make your own if you have issues) and clear your cookies and enjoy.
Oh. I thought Hulu had plugged that loop hole/browser trick. At least it didn't work on my Nook.
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Oh. I thought Hulu had plugged that loop hole/browser trick. At least it didn't work on my Nook.
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I thought so too but there are still people with hulu threads. I think when new versions of flash come out they need to work to identify the illegal users again. Also you need to make surecookies are cleared. And it may have something to do with the device as well. They may have a block list but some new devices may sneak through provided the flash player look right but I'm not sure what their servers can actually see.
Guess that puts me in a wait and see category. I was kinda hoping I could just install something like the CM7 mod and then a cracked version of flash like I did on my Nook. That works perfectly.
Thank you for the advice.
You should know that 1080p video playback only works on official AT&T or Froyo-based Infuse ROM's. The current Gingerbread ROM's don't have 1080p support (although the leaked KI3/4 supposedly do, they're not custom ROM's and may have other issues). Also, non-Samsung ROM's like CM7 won't have any of Samsung's hardware-accelerated media codecs (ie. MKV). Even so, playback is going to be affected by bitrate: if the bitrate of a file is too high, you'll either have problems seeking or it won't play at all. If the audio track is an unsupported format (ie. FLAC in an MKV container), you can use MX Video Player and set it to use S/W audio decoding.
As for Hulu, you should be able to get by with hex editing the version in your Flash libraries to the latest Windows/Chrome Flash version, and then setting your useragent in your phone's browser. I haven't tried this recently, but it was still working on my Captivate a month ago.
Well that's cool. If I can get Hulu to work without rooting then I'll be happy. I'll probably leave it stock then so I get the most out of video playback. Thank you very much for te help.
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Well that's cool. If I can get Hulu to work without rooting then I'll be happy. I'll probably leave it stock then so I get the most out of video playback. Thank you very much for te help.
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You'll need to root if you want to modify the Flash libraries within the system Flash apk. Otherwise, you'll have to reapply the modified Flash library every time you reboot the phone.

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