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Hi guys
I am writing a paper and I would like to have your point of view
1) Is it dangerous to change the rom (security for the user) ?
2) Is a rom could be infected or made with bad functions ?
3) An operator can detect a non official rom ?
Thank you very much for yours future answers.
Ad.1 Theoretically yes. But as long as you get a custom Rom from a "SAFE" place (like Xda), with a big community, it should be quite safe, as sooner or later any issues would most likely be picked up by someone.
The other problem could be a fact you have to root the device to flash a custom rom.
Ad. 2 Yes it is possible, and it could happen, but I don't think anyone ever come across such an issue.
Ad. 3 Probably not, but I'm not entirely sure about that.
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pierrebro said:
Hi guys
I am writing a paper and I would like to have your point of view
1) Is it dangerous to change the rom (security for the user) ?
2) Is a rom could be infected or made with bad functions ?
3) An operator can detect a non official rom ?
Thank you very much for yours future answers.
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1) It's just what you call security. If you do something wrong during the flashing process, like flashing the wrong ROM for example, it will surely brick your phone. If you're talking about virus issues and stuff like that, I'll procide the same answer as the person above me. Theoretically yes, but the chances are really small.
2) Yep. Particularly if you flash someone else's backup, you could flash a troian. Please mention I said 'could', because again, the chances are really small.
3) Could be, could be not. Not completely sure about that one. I think they can't, but I'm not completely sure.
Point 1 and 2 have about the same answer: Improbable, but it is possible.
Ok bro
First of all thank you very much for your answer. It s usefull
If I understand right, in future, we can imagine that a "bad" hacker team produce a specific ROM with in apparence very interesting functions but in back, a function to create a zombie park. Right ?
The question I think, it s how is possible for an operator to do security on Android ?
I read a lot and I found no sources regarding how an operator can build his security with Android phones. I mean on network. I can imagine than for him, it will be interesting to block some specific appli or roms but i dont know if it s possible.
Thank you very much.
To fight modified roms, perhaps manufacturers can secure their bootloader ?
I ask this because I think only manufacturers can fight modified roms. Right ??
hi could you post some good beginners reading guides on anything related to whatever you do since im new. im new so i ask questions like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2392704
actually someone new won't even know what bluestack is.
i have to start reading up on all this stuff. it doesnt have to be on this site, just readings so i have a better understanding of all this
pleaseeeeeeeeee
phonebroken said:
hi could you post some good beginners reading guides on anything related to whatever you do since im new. im new so i ask questions like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2392704
actually someone new won't even know what bluestack is.
i have to start reading up on all this stuff. it doesnt have to be on this site, just readings so i have a better understanding of all this
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Since you mentioned your eager to understand what goes on here at XDA I would highly recommend taking a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2073370. It contains links to approximately 108 guides that explains everything from what is logcat and compiling Android from source to explaining about MODs and Tweaks, to how to compile and modify your own Android ROMs. Also if you still have any questions feel free to ask me I'll be happy to help you out .
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great! though i need an overview guide --
like what is a rom?
why would you want to port or create roms?
why do you want to log?
same with the other topics
none of these seem especially helpful or specific to my problem :/
i think the "Tools and mods,tweaks" and "Misc" sections has the most helpful things
but the guides needs to be ranked. there's a lot of bad info out there
phonebroken said:
great! though i need an overview guide --
like what is a rom?
why would you want to port or create roms?
why do you want to log?
same with the other topics
none of these seem especially helpful or specific to my problem :/
i think the "Tools and mods,tweaks" and "Misc" sections has the most helpful things
but the guides needs to be ranked. there's a lot of bad info out there
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To answer your questions:
like what is a rom?
A ROM as defined on the XDA wiki and the Android terms glossary thread is:
The ROM holds the Operating system and other components such as the bluetooth and wifi stacks. The ROM is accompanied by the Radio, Ext_ROM, SPL and IPL. Carriers such as T-mobile or Vodaphone taylor the ROM to their specifications and version numbers do not carry the same meaning across different carriers. IF the carrier you use supports the device well they will usually release regular ROM updates.
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Rom/Firmware:Read-Only Memory and technically speaking, it refers to the internal storage of a device, which is supposed to contain the operating system instructions that needn’t be modified at all during the device’s normal operation.
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why would you want to port or create roms?
Developers create and port ROM's for a variety of reasons. One reason is because they want the latest version of Android on a device that doesn't officially support the latest version of Android. For example the last officially supported version of Android on the Nexus S was 4.1.2 but developers compiled Android 4.3 for it so Nexus S users can enjoy all the latest features and benefits of Android 4.3. A second reason is because developers add features and performance enhancements that the original device manufacturer never could have envisioned or left out. Cyanogenmod, AOKP, and Paranoid Android are all perfect examples of custom ROM's that were developed to increase performance and add many new features. A third reason, is that if you like a ROM but it isn't available for your device, developer's will port it over do the device they want it on (Note: This process can range from very simple to extremely complex) so they have that ROM's features on there device. A fourth reason is theming, some times user's will create custom ROM's that include a heavily modified or changed user interface and then distribute the changes. However ROM's that are just themed and no other changes made are becoming less prevalent due to additions of universal theme engines such as the XPOSED Framework .
why do you want to log?
Logging allows developers to see where the problems are and what is causing certain functionality such as Wifi, graphics, touchscreen, app problems, etc. to not work correctly. The log gives a detailed report of what is not working and a starting point troubleshooting where the error occurs. Developers then look at the logs and fix the error messages they are receiving. Without logs it would be close to impossible to fix any problems you ran into when developing a ROM.
Another set of guides that is an excellent source of information is -NickHalden-'s Guide Ride-From a Newbie to a Dev, Get all you need here. It takes you like you wanted from just understanding the basics, all the way up to developing ROM's and other cool stuff yourself. It also includes a very helpful numerical order that you can follow along so you don't miss any important information along the way. Also I am curious as to what you mean by "but the guides needs to be ranked. there's a lot of bad info out there"? Can you give an example? Additionally you can rate threads and see the threads ratting if they have one at the top of the thread for what users have rated it, this is usually (Though not always) a good indication of how helpful people have found the information in that thread. And if you have any other questions let me know I'm always happy to answer them .
thanks so much! i obviously didn't know what i was getting myself into... you explain these basics really really clearly so you have a talent for it =)
oh the threads do have ratings. didn't notice it. that's great!!
i think that these helpful things should be more central, like the info you gave is very helpful, and places like wikipedia, etc. won't explain it's relevance very well
i have a question on mobile + tablet though. so most people likely don't user their phones to type very much, but being able to type is important to me and i don't think the current state is good
so i wanted to know when you think 'they' will develop a phone that is much bigger but smaller than the smallest current laptop
last i check the smallest was http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Yoga-11S-Ultrabook.96315.0.html
and smallest keyboard were
http://www.ianker.com/product/98APIPAD-02BTA
http://androidspin.com/2012/09/19/j...-worlds-smallest-fordable-bluetooth-keyboard/
or a tablet with a keyboard that is smaller than the current state because it's too big
so basically the current is too small and too big for what some of us need, and i wanted to know if someone can predict when they're come out with the perfect size for some of us
phonebroken said:
thanks so much! i obviously didn't know what i was getting myself into... you explain these basics really really clearly so you have a talent for it =)
oh the threads do have ratings. didn't notice it. that's great!!
i think that these helpful things should be more central, like the info you gave is very helpful, and places like wikipedia, etc. won't explain it's relevance very well
i have a question on mobile + tablet though. so most people likely don't user their phones to type very much, but being able to type is important to me and i don't think the current state is good
so i wanted to know when you think 'they' will develop a phone that is much bigger but smaller than the smallest current laptop
last i check the smallest was http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Yoga-11S-Ultrabook.96315.0.html
and smallest keyboard were
http://www.ianker.com/product/98APIPAD-02BTA
http://androidspin.com/2012/09/19/j...-worlds-smallest-fordable-bluetooth-keyboard/
or a tablet with a keyboard that is smaller than the current state because it's too big
so basically the current is too small and too big for what some of us need, and i wanted to know if someone can predict when they're come out with the perfect size for some of us
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Regarding a central place to find information the easiest way to find it to often search either using XDA's "Search All Forums" button in the upper right hand corner, or to use Google and search something such as "xda {your search term here}" or "{your search term here} xda" (For example "xda root nexus 10" etc.). Another way to find things is simply browse through the massive amount of helpful information that can be found on XDA simply by browsing around, I have learned countless, countless things this way. If there is a specific subject or topic your interested in let me know and I'll be happy to help you look for it or point you in the right direction. To answer your keyboard question, this is a interesting dilemma as an incoming computer engineering student problems like the one your described are very fascinating to me. I suspect what will happen in the future (2-3 years or sooner) is that we will see fold-able screens that we can roll up and put in our pockets or much more flexible keyboards that you can roll up into your pocket will be developed. But overall the keyboard and real typing experience you mentioned is a very real dilemma.
phonebroken said:
thanks so much! i obviously didn't know what i was getting myself into... you explain these basics really really clearly so you have a talent for it =)
oh the threads do have ratings. didn't notice it. that's great!!
i think that these helpful things should be more central, like the info you gave is very helpful, and places like wikipedia, etc. won't explain it's relevance very well
i have a question on mobile + tablet though. so most people likely don't user their phones to type very much, but being able to type is important to me and i don't think the current state is good
so i wanted to know when you think 'they' will develop a phone that is much bigger but smaller than the smallest current laptop
last i check the smallest was http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Yoga-11S-Ultrabook.96315.0.html
and smallest keyboard were
http://www.ianker.com/product/98APIPAD-02BTA
http://androidspin.com/2012/09/19/j...-worlds-smallest-fordable-bluetooth-keyboard/
or a tablet with a keyboard that is smaller than the current state because it's too big
so basically the current is too small and too big for what some of us need, and i wanted to know if someone can predict when they're come out with the perfect size for some of us
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Something like this maybe?
bought one of these to play with and it came with an android, but lots of chinese stuff. It does though appear to be rooted so i thought i'd drop a custom rom on it to clear it all up - but, which one? Can't seem to find it listed as a device anywhere, so is there a sort of default custom rom i could apply (cyangenmod's i've used before on galaxys)
Hi,
This is the only thread I found on XDA about that device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/review-viewsonic-v500-review-4g-lte-hd-t3122788
I suggest you register on the site and ask about it there.
But, no... Roms need to be created for your exact device. Flashing something not made for your device could destroy it.
Good luck!
Thanks for that. Had lookin the thread and it runs up fairly recently on the same vein as me - so I'll let it lie for a week or so and see if it develops. I've also been over to cyangenMod to see if they have support for this device but no luck - they do however have some web pages on porting it yourself from source, so I might venture down that road. (safe in the knowledge that I will only waste about 60 quid if it all goes pear shaped)
Thanks for your input.
I am seeking an app that would make the power button also the volume button. I have come across several apps that make the volume button turn into the power button but none for the power. Also does anyone know where to get a replacement sim card tray for the PVG100 or if a sim tray from another device would work in it. Thanks
Hi guys!
I think I found the source code/bootloader for the PVG100. After a whole lot of digging, I now have this .zip from the founder himself, and it is for the original 2018 firmware, not with any of the updates. I'll attach it below.
I am definitely a novice tinkerer, not a developer. I don't have any of the skills or tools to make a custom ROM, though I very much want one to remove the bloatware and enable hotspot tethering etc. Stormskeeker, could you please post whatever you have managed to find so far, or explain how you have been able to tweak it?
I also have a couple of these that are inoperable for various reasons that I have thoroughly dissected. So if anyone needs to buy any of my spare parts, or wants to just know more about the Palm's guts, then hit me up!
This is SUCH a rad little phone. Biggest complaint by far is battery life, and I would LOVE if someone help me figure out how to power this phone with a bigger battery. I found a Oneplus battery has the same connector, but it won't work when I connect it (unless it's plugged in to a wall adapter)... does this have something to do with the firmware not accepting a different battery? Does Anyone know how I can get around this??
https://sourceforge.net/projects/palmopensource/[/url]
Sim Tray in Gold for my Palm PVG 100
fatetraitor said:
I am seeking an app that would make the power button also the volume button. I have come across several apps that make the volume button turn into the power button but none for the power. Also does anyone know where to get a replacement sim card tray for the PVG100 or if a sim tray from another device would work in it. Thanks
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Hello A Need Also a New Sim Tray in Gold for my Palm PVG 100 i Contacted PAlm They Said:
Palm Support Team (Palm)
Nov 29, 12:38 PST
Hi Davi
Thanks for contacting us.
Unfortunately, we're not able to provide replacement SIM trays at this time.
If you have any other questions, please let us know.
Thanks,
Palm Support Team
Pleaze Helph someone how they can put a phone in the market with no simple Replace Parts for this Palm Phone
DEXXO said:
Hello A Need Also a New Sim Tray in Gold for my Palm PVG 100 i Contacted PAlm They Said:
Palm Support Team (Palm)
Nov 29, 12:38 PST
Hi Davi
Thanks for contacting us.
Unfortunately, we're not able to provide replacement SIM trays at this time.
If you have any other questions, please let us know.
Thanks,
Palm Support Team
Pleaze Helph someone how they can put a phone in the market with no simple Replace Parts for this Palm Phone
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There is nothing we can do about your situation, why did you come here to ask about this issue? Don't waste your time here with a question like that.
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Droidriven said:
There is nothing we can do about your situation, why did you come here to ask about this issue? Don't waste your time here with a question like that.
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Thanks fo For Quick Feedback
the name of this Thread is Palm pvg100 questions
so thats why i asking here + if you Read up im not the first ho ask about the Sim Tray :good:
for me iz not a waste of time iz about to be Real and find Solutions and nothing hiding
The 2nd Question is to find how and best to Flash a Palm PVG 100 or Root it.
sincerly Greets DEXXO
DEXXO said:
Thanks fo For Quick Feedback
the name of this Thread is Palm pvg100 questions
so thats why i asking here + if you Read up im not the first ho ask about the Sim Tray :good:
for me iz not a waste of time iz about to be Real and find Solutions and nothing hiding
The 2nd Question is to find how and best to Flash a Palm PVG 100 or Root it.
sincerly Greets DEXXO
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Questions about how to root this device are relevant, but you didn't ask about that in your previous post, did you? No, you didnt, you asked an irrelevant question about the SIM tray that has nothing to do with XDA or what we do here.
My point is, this forum is about android software development and Windows mobile software development. Given that fact, questions posted here in this Palm pvg 100 thread should be questions about Palm pvg 100 software. Your question is about your device's manufacturer and their practices concerning the SIM tray issue. That question is irrelevant here at XDA because it has absolutely nothing to do with android, android software development, Windows mobile, Windows mobile development or the software on your Palm pvg 100.
Sure, your question is related to the Palm pvg 100, but that doesn't mean anything.
If this were an automobile repair forum, the question you posted would be like going to an automotive repair forum to ask why Toyota has stopped making a certain part or making that part available to the public. How would the people in the forum know why Toyota is doing that? They, wouldn't, Toyota would. What could the people in that forum actually do about the availability of that part? Absolutely nothing. So why waste your time asking them if they don't know and can't do anything about it? Do you see my point now?
If you want to know if there is a known rooting method for your device, do a Google search for:
"How to root (your model number)"
If that doesn't find anything, there is not a known rooting method for that device. If you find nothing, you'll have to experiment for yourself to find working method.
If searching doesn't find anything specific, you'll have to try the various universal rooting programs on PC or the various android rooting apps, try all of them that you can possibly find.
If the universal rooting programs or apps don't work, you can try finding a copy of your stock firmware, then extract the boot.img from the firmware then use Magisk on PC to patch the boot.img then flash that boot.img on your device then install the Magisk Manager app on your device. But, if your bootloader is locked, you will not be able to flash the patched boot.img.
If you want to know how to flash your device, do a google search for:
"How to flash stock firmware (your model number)"
Or
"Return to stock (your model number)"
That should find guides for flashing your device.
Notice that the Google searches are simple and to the point,
"How to (the thing you're looking for) (your model number)"
It isn't difficult to use Google to find answers, you just have to keep your search terms simple and direct.
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Droidriven said:
Questions about how to root this device are relevant, but you didn't ask about that in your previous post, did you? No, you didnt, you asked an irrelevant question about the SIM tray that has nothing to do with XDA or what we do here.
My point is, this forum is about android software development and Windows mobile software development. Given that fact, questions posted here in this Palm pvg 100 thread should be questions about Palm pvg 100 software. Your question is about your device's manufacturer and their practices concerning the SIM tray issue. That question is irrelevant here at XDA because it has absolutely nothing to do with android, android software development, Windows mobile, Windows mobile development or the software on your Palm pvg 100.
Sure, your question is related to the Palm pvg 100, but that doesn't mean anything.
If this were an automobile repair forum, the question you posted would be like going to an automotive repair forum to ask why Toyota has stopped making a certain part or making that part available to the public. How would the people in the forum know why Toyota is doing that? They, wouldn't, Toyota would. What could the people in that forum actually do about the availability of that part? Absolutely nothing. So why waste your time asking them if they don't know and can't do anything about it? Do you see my point now?
If you want to know if there is a known rooting method for your device, do a Google search for:
"How to root (your model number)"
If that doesn't find anything, there is not a known rooting method for that device. If you find nothing, you'll have to experiment for yourself to find working method.
If searching doesn't find anything specific, you'll have to try the various universal rooting programs on PC or the various android rooting apps, try all of them that you can possibly find.
If the universal rooting programs or apps don't work, you can try finding a copy of your stock firmware, then extract the boot.img from the firmware then use Magisk on PC to patch the boot.img then flash that boot.img on your device then install the Magisk Manager app on your device. But, if your bootloader is locked, you will not be able to flash the patched boot.img.
If you want to know how to flash your device, do a google search for:
"How to flash stock firmware (your model number)"
Or
"Return to stock (your model number)"
That should find guides for flashing your device.
Notice that the Google searches are simple and to the point,
"How to (the thing you're looking for) (your model number)"
It isn't difficult to use Google to find answers, you just have to keep your search terms simple and direct.
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Thanks for Information all you said about Google etc. I Tryed but for this Model iz Xtream Difficult
y even not will find a Stock Firmware to Download lmah crazy
In My Opinion Samsung Devices are the best Phones and most open about for Rooting and Flashing Roms.
for the nem Palm PVG 100 Devices i also not finding something or how someone has tryed to Root or Flash
a think it will be possible trough SP Flash or something .
Will see, but Anyway i have Realy to Say Thanks to the XDA Devolpers Comunitys for dont let Obsolete so many Phones thrugh
Custom Roms . my Sam. P1000 still runs alot of Apps ho this devices was never Supportet with the Stock Rom
the Best is espacialy for the S4mini iz incredible wha the guys from ASOP Team has done . Oreo on a S4 mini and in a realy Fast Way !
so with this also Thanks to this Guys ho realy thinks in a right decision for All Devices. I am realy not a fan of Updates and New Api,s for Apps
because in this was alot of Phones and more will get faster obsolete etc. Thats why realy Thanks for all this Devs. for the nice Roms.
Greets DEXXO
DEXXO said:
Thanks for Information all you said about Google etc. I Tryed but for this Model iz Xtream Difficult [emoji14]
y even not will find a Stock Firmware to Download lmah crazy
In My Opinion Samsung Devices are the best Phones and most open about for Rooting and Flashing Roms.
for the nem Palm PVG 100 Devices i also not finding something or how someone has tryed to Root or Flash
a think it will be possible trough SP Flash or something .
Will see, but Anyway i have Realy to Say Thanks to the XDA Devolpers Comunitys for dont let Obsolete so many Phones thrugh
Custom Roms . my Sam. P1000 still runs alot of Apps ho this devices was never Supportet with the Stock Rom
the Best is espacialy for the S4mini iz incredible wha the guys from ASOP Team has done . Oreo on a S4 mini and in a realy Fast Way !
so with this also Thanks to this Guys ho realy thinks in a right decision for All Devices. I am realy not a fan of Updates and New Api,s for Apps
because in this was alot of Phones and more will get faster obsolete etc. Thats why realy Thanks for all this Devs. for the nice Roms.
Greets DEXXO
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XDA itself is not involved in which devices do or don't get support or custom development.
It is up to the community of members, it is the members that figure out rooting methods and it is members that create the custom developments that are available here. It isn't like XDA has a team of people that are tasked with developing for every single android device model that is created/sold.
Devices that do not have known rooting methods or have no custom development of any kind are due to several reasons, such as:
1) there are not enough users in the community that own the device
2) the device has no stock firmware available and/or does not have a stock source code that is available to the public. Without these, custom ROMs can not be created.
3) there are no users or developers with the experience or skills to create custom software that own the device. Developers only build for devices they personally own and real developers don't buy cheap, off-brand, unpopular devices. If someone here owned a device like yours and had the skills to build ROMs, there would probably already be ROMs for your device.
If your device does not have a stock firmware that is available and has no stock source code available and you do not have the necessary developer skills, you are out of luck when it comes to customizing your device or ever seeing custom development for your device.
If your stock source code was available, you could have tried paying a developer to develop ROMs your device, but it would have required you buying another device like yours and sending that device to the developer so they could use it for testing what they build before releasing their development to the community here.
If you really want to blame someone, blame yourself for buying a device that no developer would ever care about working with.
If you want to be able to customize a device, here is some advice.
1) don't buy cheap, low end, off brand, unpopular devices, it doesn't have to be an expensive flagship device, there are some decent mid-range devices that receive custom development.
2) don't buy a device that does not have stock firmware available and/or has no stock source code available.
3) you are going about it all wrong, don't go buy a device and then come here looking to see if anything is available here for the device. Come here first and see what devices have available development here and what those developments are and use that information to choose which device to go buy and THEN go buy the device.
So, you see, there is a lot more to the story than just.....
"Hey, I got an android device and I'd like to root it and use custom ROMs on it"
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Droidriven said:
XDA itself is not involved in which devices do or don't get support or custom development.
It is up to the community of members, it is the members that figure out rooting methods and it is members that create the custom developments that are available here. It isn't like XDA has a team of people that are tasked with developing for every single android device model that is created/sold.
Devices that do not have known rooting methods or have no custom development of any kind are due to several reasons, such as:
1) there are not enough users in the community that own the device
2) the device has no stock firmware available and/or does not have a stock source code that is available to the public. Without these, custom ROMs can not be created.
3) there are no users or developers with the experience or skills to create custom software that own the device. Developers only build for devices they personally own and real developers don't buy cheap, off-brand, unpopular devices. If someone here owned a device like yours and had the skills to build ROMs, there would probably already be ROMs for your device.
If your device does not have a stock firmware that is available and has no stock source code available and you do not have the necessary developer skills, you are out of luck when it comes to customizing your device or ever seeing custom development for your device.
If your stock source code was available, you could have tried paying a developer to develop ROMs your device, but it would have required you buying another device like yours and sending that device to the developer so they could use it for testing what they build before releasing their development to the community here.
If you really want to blame someone, blame yourself for buying a device that no developer would ever care about working with.
If you want to be able to customize a device, here is some advice.
1) don't buy cheap, low end, off brand, unpopular devices, it doesn't have to be an expensive flagship device, there are some decent mid-range devices that receive custom development.
2) don't buy a device that does not have stock firmware available and/or has no stock source code available.
3) you are going about it all wrong, don't go buy a device and then come here looking to see if anything is available here for the device. Come here first and see what devices have available development here and what those developments are and use that information to choose which device to go buy and THEN go buy the device.
So, you see, there is a lot more to the story than just.....
"Hey, I got an android device and I'd like to root it and use custom ROMs on it"
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Thanks for the Info
but wich Phone a buy a surely i dont need XDA or Ask about if they have open Codes or Stock Roms:highfive:
this Palm Phone PVG -100 is realy Unic in the hole Marked , because iz small (xtrem and has hightech from today) 8 Core Snap Dr.. alot Ram and iz
incredible Fast . And my Question for Rooting a sutch device iz more about that you can remove some Provider Bloatware. etc.
how said we will see what will come on the Comunity for this Device
Greets D
DEXXO said:
Thanks for the Info
but wich Phone a buy a surely i dont need XDA or Ask about if they have open Codes or Stock Roms:highfive:
this Palm Phone PVG -100 is realy Unic in the hole Marked , because iz small (xtrem and has hightech from today) 8 Core Snap Dr.. alot Ram and iz
incredible Fast . And my Question for Rooting a sutch device iz more about that you can remove some Provider Bloatware. etc.
how said we will see what will come on the Comunity for this Device
Greets D
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Whether or not the stock firmware and stock source code is available or not is absolutely essential to building custom ROMs.
Ok, have it your way then. Continue wasting your time and money on devices that will probably never have anything posted here to root or modify them.
As I said, not all devices get rooting methods and custom development posted here, only the ones owned by people who had the experience to root the device and/or build custom ROMs, they find a rooting method for their device themselves then post the method here or they create custom development for their device themselves then post it here.
You don't understand how things actually work here or where the information posted here actually comes from. It comes from users just like you and I that figure it out for themselves if nothing is here and then post it here for others. There is no way to know which devices will gain root until AFTER it has already been figured out, we can not know BEFORE. We can not look into the future and predict when or if "this" or "that" device will have a rooting method discovered, it can't be done, so there is no point in asking "When will this device have root?" because an answer to that question does not exist.
No one knows which devices will receive development or rooting methods. That depends on who buys one of the devices and if they decide to modify the device, if they have the knowledge to do so.
You will just have to wait and see.
In my honest opinion, that device will probably never have anything useful posted here. I can go ahead and tell you that device is, more than likely, not popular enough to receive support here at XDA.
If you feel like you would like to try and learn how to root the device and learn how to develop custom ROMs and such, by all means, go ahead. You will probably gain root and have custom development for your device sooner if you just do it yourself. Your only other option is to wait to see if someone else figures something out that works on your device, which isn't very likely to happen any time soon. It doesn't matter how cool the device is or what the specs are, if no one with experience buys the device, it doesn't get support in this community.
By the way, depending on the security measures that have been implemented in your devices stock firmware, adb can be used to remove bloatware without root.
Do a Google search for:
"Remove bloatware without root"
You'll find lots of information about using adb to remove bloatware.
Good luck
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You can disable (for all) or "uninstall" for the current user most the bloatware. A few things are tied to receiving SMS but you can read about the ones you can safely remove in the battery life thread I created. That thread assumes you're not too bothered about automatic updates as they are pushed by verizon.
www (i.e. google) also works for replacement SIM tray for Palm PVG 100. js.
snoopy20 said:
You can disable (for all) or "uninstall" for the current user most the bloatware. A few things are tied to receiving SMS but you can read about the ones you can safely remove in the battery life thread I created. That thread assumes you're not too bothered about automatic updates as they are pushed by verizon.
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Yes you can somone disactivate but not all. But on this Verizon PVG-100 the Bloat ware iz not tu mutch.
We are still working on a root solution. We have a temp root, but can't get into the bootloader.
DEXXO said:
Thanks for Information all you said about Google etc. I Tryed but for this Model iz Xtream Difficult
y even not will find a Stock Firmware to Download lmah crazy
In My Opinion Samsung Devices are the best Phones and most open about for Rooting and Flashing Roms.
for the nem Palm PVG 100 Devices i also not finding something or how someone has tryed to Root or Flash
a think it will be possible trough SP Flash or something .
Will see, but Anyway i have Realy to Say Thanks to the XDA Devolpers Comunitys for dont let Obsolete so many Phones thrugh
Custom Roms . my Sam. P1000 still runs alot of Apps ho this devices was never Supportet with the Stock Rom
the Best is espacialy for the S4mini iz incredible wha the guys from ASOP Team has done . Oreo on a S4 mini and in a realy Fast Way !
so with this also Thanks to this Guys ho realy thinks in a right decision for All Devices. I am realy not a fan of Updates and New Api,s for Apps
because in this was alot of Phones and more will get faster obsolete etc. Thats why realy Thanks for all this Devs. for the nice Roms.
Greets DEXXO
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....dude...whatever you're trying to ask or trying to do, I can guarantee that this is NOT the forum to do it in. Please don't post on this site anymore unless you have done your research into the topic first, by reading what others have posted, and what info is available for your device. Posting is primarily for discussion and contribution. If everyone just posts any random questions they have without even googling it first, then the threads become completely flooded and then unhelpful for those who are actually trying to discuss something.
And fyi, we are still working on a root solution. We have a temp root, but can't get into the bootloader.
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dude i dont know wahts exaclty you wanna show with this what you write , but just for info this Thread is intended for ALL
Questions about the Palm PVG-100 so if you can handle it fine :good: and Rooting iz not the only problem
where you can find a Sim Tray Replace for this phone. (YES A GOOGLET IT ) so if you can helph with this fine too
If the phone hasn’t a permanent root yet, does that mean no apks can be extracted from it?
I’m looking to try and figure out how to get the palm launcher on my own device, but I don’t see anyone’s who ported it or extracted it as of yet, and I’d hate to ask someone to try if I know they aren’t able to.
2PiSquared said:
If the phone hasn’t a permanent root yet, does that mean no apks can be extracted from it?
I’m looking to try and figure out how to get the palm launcher on my own device, but I don’t see anyone’s who ported it or extracted it as of yet, and I’d hate to ask someone to try if I know they aren’t able to.
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As long as you do it while the device is rooted, you shouldn't have a problem.
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2PiSquared said:
I’m looking to try and figure out how to get the palm launcher on my own device, but I don’t see anyone’s who ported it or extracted it as of yet, and I’d hate to ask someone to try if I know they aren’t able to.
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com.tct.pepitolauncher.apk
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com.tct.pepitolauncher.apk
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Thank you, got it on my device!
For anyone trying this themselves, I had to decompile the app, modify the manifest and remove the sharedUserId, and recompile and resign to get it to install. Then I had to give it secure settings permissions via root so it wouldn't crash.
Since my phone is larger and a has a QHD display, the apps were a bit small and it didn't fit well. Changing DPI did not fix, the launcher seems to only look at resolution, not DPI. So, I then changed the resolution of my device to match the Palm and decreased my dpi to make other apps still usable. Not sure what the default palm DPI and text size are, but I found a happy medium for me.
Only issue is for some reason the google search bar up top doesn't appear on the home screen but I can still click the area and get to search, not sure why, but works well otherwise. The left pane on the home screen is also black but I don't know what's supposed to go there. Probably some other dependency I don't know about. Widget pane on the right works though.
Overall pleased, thanks again!
Edit: got it to work perfectly by setting is as a privileged app and turning off dark mode. Left side pane is google now page, and top search bar now appears properly.
Hello, Is there a way to edit the APN. It seems to be locked.
Hi people,
I'm looking forward to buying a Galaxy XCover 5 but I really want to avoid all the Samsung bloatware stuff.
For now, I didn't find any single custom or AOSP ROM for it.
Did I miss something?
Also, I realized that this smartphone isn't in the Samsung topics list yet.
Best, taiBsu
taiBsu said:
Hi people,
I'm looking forward to buying a Galaxy XCover 5 but I really want to avoid all the Samsung bloatware stuff.
For now, I didn't find any single custom or AOSP ROM for it.
Did I miss something?
Also, I realized that this smartphone isn't in the Samsung topics list yet.
Best, taiBsu
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Do a Google search for:
"Custom ROMs for (the specific model number of the device)"
If that doesn't find anything then there is nothing for that device.
Use this same search for for every device that you want to investigate, just use the model number for each device when you search.
Another thing you may want to investigate. Do a Google search for:
"TWRP for (the specific model number of the device)"
If that doesn't find anything then there is no TWRP for that device, which means there are probably no ROMs for that device either because it requires TWRP to flash custom ROMs.
Anytime you are interested in a device and you want to see if anything is available for it, do these exact searches and it will find if anything is available for that device.
Droidriven said:
Do a Google search for:
"Custom ROMs for (the specific model number of the device)"
If that doesn't find anything then there is nothing for that device.
Use this same search for for every device that you want to investigate, just use the model number for each device when you search.
Another thing you may want to investigate. Do a Google search for:
"TWRP for (the specific model number of the device)"
If that doesn't find anything then there is no TWRP for that device, which means there are probably no ROMs for that device either because it requires TWRP to flash custom ROMs.
Anytime you are interested in a device and you want to see if anything is available for it, do these exact searches and it will find if anything is available for that device.
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Hi Droidriven,
thanks for your reply. However, when I wrote "I didn't find" that meant that this was the result of following exactly the steps you described. It's not that I was just too lazy to ask Google, more of asking specifically in the XDA community for potential less popular or unofficial ROMs that might not be found by simply googling them. Also, it might have been possible that some devs are at the moment working on a G525F version of some custom Android.
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Hi Droidriven,
thanks for your reply. However, when I wrote "I didn't find" that meant that this was the result of following exactly the steps you described. It's not that I was just too lazy to ask Google, more of asking specifically in the XDA community for potential less popular or unofficial ROMs that might not be found by simply googling them. Also, it might have been possible that some devs are at the moment working on a G525F version of some custom Android.
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I was just saying that if those searches haven't found anything, that is a pretty good indicator that there is nothing to find.
Droidriven said:
Do a Google search for:
"Custom ROMs for (the specific model number of the device)"
If that doesn't find anything then there is nothing for that device.
Use this same search for for every device that you want to investigate, just use the model number for each device when you search.
Another thing you may want to investigate. Do a Google search for:
"TWRP for (the specific model number of the device)"
If that doesn't find anything then there is no TWRP for that device, which means there are probably no ROMs for that device either because it requires TWRP to flash custom ROMs.
Anytime you are interested in a device and you want to see if anything is available for it, do these exact searches and it will find if anything is available for that device.
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I literally registered just to say how much of an absolute waste of time you are. If you're not going to help beyond not reading people's posts where they've said they've looked for something and just by default go to tell them to google it because you don't know it, then stop wasting all of our time and just delete your account. Your ego is atrocious for a forum troll. Go touch some grass.
droadrivenisapos said:
I literally registered just to say how much of an absolute waste of time you are. If you're not going to help beyond not reading people's posts where they've said they've looked for something and just by default go to tell them to google it because you don't know it, then stop wasting all of our time and just delete your account. Your ego is atrocious for a forum troll. Go touch some grass.
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It wasn't an "I don't know" reply. It was an "if you want to find ROMs for your device, this is how you do it" reply, because that is exactly what they needed to do to see "IF"(keyword, IF) there are any ROMs for their device, because, IF there are ROMs for their device, the search I suggested would find it/them, if it doesn't find anything then there is nothing, which answers their question pretty directly. Yes, they said they already "searched" but how am I to know whether or not they did proper and valid searches? How do I know if they searched specifically by model number or not, since they didn't state what searches they had done or how thoroughly they had done it? What if the searching they had done was vague and non specific? What if, after potentially vaguely and non specifically searching and finding nothing, they came here to ask? If their searches were vague and non specific, then, my reply would have helped them refine their searches specific to their device, if anything exists for the device? There are more layers to the scenario than you realize from the outside looking in.
My reply told them everything they needed to know in order to find/not find what they were looking for. It was also to indirectly say "if you've already done those searches and didn't find anything, then that is a pretty good indicator that there is nothing for your device". Given that they already did those searches and didn't find anything, that means that coming here and asking was the ACTUAL "waste of time". The only time I wasted was to respond to a question that they had already answered for themselves when their searches didn't find anything, whether they knew it or not. Now, you've wasted time debating a reply that was actually a valid answer, you wasted even more time by registering just to do that. Your reply is how you feel about it, but, in reality, what you have had to say about it is completely irrelevant.
I'm assuming that you think a valid answer would have only and expressly been to post a ROM for them, a ROM that doesn't exist? Are you the type that thinks I should just give them a fish that doesn't exist rather than teaching them to fish for themselves to see if the fish they are looking for exists or not? Exactly how was I supposed to reply to a post when the answer they are looking for doesn't exist? You call my post "trolling" even though it told them exactly what they needed to know in order to find a valid answer, if the answer exists. This actually makes you and your reply the "troll", as you call it.
Have a nice day.
taiBsu said:
Hi people,
I'm looking forward to buying a Galaxy XCover 5 but I really want to avoid all the Samsung bloatware stuff.
For now, I didn't find any single custom or AOSP ROM for it.
Did I miss something?
Also, I realized that this smartphone isn't in the Samsung topics list yet.
Best, taiBsu
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Did you find some rom? just going to start searching for one...
Minor news:
Managed to get Lineage OS 20 GSI by AndyYan on the phone by modifying original fimware AP file.
However right off the bat there were two issues -
1/ after phone went to sleep by hitting the power button once to lock it the screen stops reacting.
Luckily the battery is replaceable
2/ it did not even ask to unlock the SIM card
Right now I am trying to de-bloat the original firmware a bit for daily usage. Still don't like it.
That said there are some resources out there
- Samsung provides official kernel for Android 13
- you can find twrp for A21s which also has Exynos 850 - would be nice if someone tested it
Got custom kernel and Lineage GSI into one ROM. (lot's of work on that samsung malicious compliance "open-source" kernel). Flashed to the phone but...
Stuck on the "This phone is running unauthorized software." at the moment.
Not sure where the issue is. Wheter with the kernel I managed to prepare of with some security mechanism.
Probably need to disable proca or something. Maybe time to give up for now.
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Got custom kernel and Lineage GSI into one ROM. (lot's of work on that samsung malicious compliance "open-source" kernel). Flashed to the phone but...
Stuck on the "This phone is running unauthorized software." at the moment.
Not sure where the issue is. Wheter with the kernel I managed to prepare of with some security mechanism.
Probably need to disable proca or something. Maybe time to give up for now.
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The "unauthorized software" thing is usually because your running custom/unofficial software on a device that has a locked bootloader, the bootloader wants to see the software that it is "supposed" to have.
Nope, bootloader is properly unlocked. I made double sure about that.
I used to have S10 and that screen was pretty standard.
Reading some posts on that it seems I might have to downgrade firmware to some older version.
Unless I got the kernel wrong.
I remember that back in the day ivan meyer or someone of similar nick used to make LOS for it and always there was specific version of firmware needed. Not the newest one.
I tried with the newest one sofar while the kernel source from samsung is probably kind of late 2022-ish.
Perhaps I will try with older firmware later this week.
Ended up just rooting with magisk and debloating since I needed to start using the phone.
Battery life for my low usage is a week now.
No issues sofar.
(Apologies if this is hijacking the thread - it seems to be the only place mentioning the xcover5 and I did originally come here looking for ROMs)
My new xcover 5 arrived today, but I can't get through the setup - it goes through several screens then prompts for a Microsoft Business Account - which I don't have. The only option from there is Sign-in or Reset Device. Samsung have said to return it to the seller, although am not sure how much their chat-support understood my problem. None of the setup guides / marketing material mention needing a Microsoft Business Account... so I wonder whether I've been sent a phone that's been previously used and somehow locked down to a big company's settings - and if so whether I can reflash/splat it.
It might be safer to just return it because of warranty laws..don't know how that works where you are.
But if you want to at least try then:
How to update your Samsung Galaxy smartphone and install official firmware
Follow these instructions to manually install Android updates through recovery and full firmware using Odin on Samsung Galaxy smartphones.
www.xda-developers.com
If the phone is hard-locked by some corp on firmware level you might not be able to reflash it.