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Does anybody have a more specific eta for the update? HTC said it would be this month but it is almost over. Somebody enlighten me with anything?
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Well I unfortunately cannot enlighten you although I can say that month estimate would be for the international (Tegra). One X and for what I know it might be Christmas before AT&T or some other carrier releases jelly bean for the HTC One XL
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Thanks very much ;D still a great device
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Thanks very much ;D still a great device
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great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers
bloodrain954 said:
great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers
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Wow dude, you can help yourself can you?
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That's why there are developers and custom roms
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bloodrain954 said:
great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers
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You're free to switch to a different OEM, no one is stopping you... For the rest of us, we're more than happy to use custom ROMs, they're usually much better than any OEM's updates anyways.
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You're free to switch to a different OEM, no one is stopping you... For the rest of us, we're more than happy to use custom ROMs, they're usually much better than any OEM's updates anyways.
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Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Just out of honest curiosity, why is that?
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Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Not quite true, for some devices the lack of update promotes devs to produce some great unique roms. Port updated versions of android to a device that would otherwise never receive it
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fungied.cheese said:
Just out of honest curiosity, why is that?
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One factor is by that time most devs have probably moved onwards to more current devices.
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fungied.cheese said:
Just out of honest curiosity, why is that?
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They can use the official updates as a base and then make their ROM from there. The official updates contain all the drivers and features and its easy to build up. Making ROMs from scratch is difficult to say the least.
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Not quite... Having the OEM's official update makes creating custom ROMs MUCH easier, sure. But being easier doesn't make them better, in fact, its quite the opposite... The better custom ROMs come from being built off of the AOSP source, not from the OEM's source. ROMs built from the OEM's source will still have many of the official ROM's inherent flaws, which kinda defeats the purpose of custom ROMs to begin with (and the main reason why I haven't flashed anything onto my One X yet)... Then we have porting ROMs from other devices which is one of the main reasons why you see ROMs with missing features such as cameras, WiFi and so on, along with other bloat and garbage files/drivers that aren't needed for the device it's being ported onto, but may cause issues if removed completely whether its used or not.
The problem devs are facing now is that they're spread too thin throughout hundreds of devices, back in the HTC Dream/Tmobile G1 days, building ROMs from the AOSP source wasn't a problem because they were all working on the same device, and could pool their resources to turn out MUCH better, faster and stable ROMs at a MUCH faster pace... Today, that's seemingly impossible since there are so many great devices out there (and more being released every few months), not to mention the competition between devs for recognition and donations, which isn't good for the community as a whole... Devs simply cannot keep up, so instead of building off of AOSP (which takes longer), most of them build off of the official updated ROMs or ROMs ported from other devices to make things easier and have a faster turn around time. Not to mention there are many "devs" (and I use this term lightly) out there who simply copy and paste code around, add a few things here and there, add a launcher and theme, slap their name on it, call it a finished ROM and then ask for donations for all their "hard work" (again, using this term lightly), when in fact, all the hard work was already done by other devs... Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the work devs do for basically nothing in return, and have donated to many who deserved it, without them, we'd be at the mercy of OEMs, which is never a good thing (see iOS), but there's only so much they can do on their own, and with so many handsets on the market, it's very difficult to stay focused on a single handset for more than 6-8 months...
I Concur...
bloodrain954 said:
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After three HTC phones and seeing this same pattern, I will not be buying another HTC phone. I know AT&T is to blame too, but HTC was committed to build quality and dedication to less devices and more support. I haven't seen it to my level of satisfaction. Maybe I'm on the wrong carrier, I don't know...
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After three HTC phones and seeing this same pattern, I will not be buying another HTC phone. I know AT&T is to blame too, but HTC was committed to build quality and dedication to less devices and more support. I haven't seen it to my level of satisfaction. Maybe I'm on the wrong carrier, I don't know...
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Unless you get a nexus device then anywhere else you go this will be normal
Not directed at you.
We are in a forum about rooting and flashing custom ROMs, not about whining when will a release for new software come out forum.
So I suggest to start flashing custom ROMs and stop talking about this.
It will get released when it gets released, and no amount of anyone bashing carriers or whining will make it come sooner.
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Not quite true, for some devices the lack of update promotes devs to produce some great unique roms. Port updated versions of android to a device that would otherwise never receive it
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Exactly this. I came from the HTC Aria, who's last official update was 2.2. Currently, there are community built ICS and JB builds that are ~99% complete in terms of functionality.
I upgraded yesterday to the HTC OneX+ and it has the updated software that OneX will probably get soon and if I knew how to root this sucker and pull the RUU off I would be more than happy to oblige. Anyone familiar with this process can chime in and help pull it from my phone because it really is nice especially the custom options in stock.
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Unless you get a nexus device then anywhere else you go this will be normal
Not directed at you.
We are in a forum about rooting and flashing custom ROMs, not about whining when will a release for new software come out forum.
So I suggest to start flashing custom ROMs and stop talking about this.
It will get released when it gets released, and no amount of anyone bashing carriers or whining will make it come sooner.
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It's cool, I know what you are saying. I'm very grateful this community exists, and for brilliant developers that feed my addiction of flashing roms.
It's places like this that fill the gap between an OEM's product and our expectations.
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I upgraded yesterday to the HTC OneX+ and it has the updated software that OneX will probably get soon and if I knew how to root this sucker and pull the RUU off I would be more than happy to oblige. Anyone familiar with this process can chime in and help pull it from my phone because it really is nice especially the custom options in stock.
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It would be useless for you to do so, it has a completely different processor. And since we are due for an update soon our devs are just going to wait until its released to make a custom rom
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I do apologize but I'm curious as to what everyone's running and it how it stacks up. I'm starting to get sick of CM's instability. There's soooo many touchwiz ROMs nowadays so any guidance would be appreciated.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030478
read the OPs, the threads, flash and try.
everyones needs in a rom are different. everyones opinion is different. everyones phone is different.
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I do apologize but I'm curious as to what everyone's running and it how it stacks up. I'm starting to get sick of CM's instability. There's soooo many touchwiz ROMs nowadays so any guidance would be appreciated.
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What CM instability are you experiencing? I've had problems with some of the nightlys but I always do a backup so it's easy to revert if needed.
Please read ddurandSGS3 comments, what works for me on my phone may very well not work on your phone. You'd think that a bunch of mass produced phones would be identical but they're not, they're all different and I've learned that with several different brands of phones. A ROM that's absolute perfection on my phone may not even boot on your phone, believe it or not!
Next, you have to consider all the different ways people use their phones.
I've been pretty pleased with Clean ROM but currently I'm back to CM.
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What CM instability are you experiencing? I've had problems with some of the nightlys but I always do a backup so it's easy to revert if needed.
Please read ddurandSGS3 comments, what works for me on my phone may very well not work on your phone. You'd think that a bunch of mass produced phones would be identical but they're not, they're all different and I've learned that with several different brands of phones. A ROM that's absolute perfection on my phone may not even boot on your phone, believe it or not!
Next, you have to consider all the different ways people use their phones.
I've been pretty pleased with Clean ROM but currently I'm back to CM.
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well screen artifacts for one and the occasional lag here and there. i feel like i shouldn't have any on this device
Thats entirely up to you to figure out what rom is the best for your needs. As others have stated what works for someone else may not work for u
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well screen artifacts for one and the occasional lag here and there. i feel like i shouldn't have any on this device
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Thanks for the info, I've had neither problem, again showing that all these "identical" phones are not identical!
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Thanks for the info, I've had neither problem, again showing that all these "identical" phones are not identical!
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yeah, theres supposed to be slight variations of the cpus in every phone. I guess i got the short end of the stick. Oh well, i usually do anyway xD
I have been using andybones bonesstockrom v1.5 and can say I like it. I am not a big fan of multi windows so I don't use it. I think moar is a good rom as well. Just read the op threads like others have said and and try one. I think I have tried most of them and they are all good.
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Thread closed as "Best" rom for one user is not necessarily the "Best" for another.
Users are encouraged to read and determine what is best for them by reading the knowledge shared via posting.
These threads always spiral into arguments about one rom over another, and thus, trolling ensues.
Please do not post "Best Rom" threads.
Hey guys, apologies if I'm not posting in the best possible section for this, but I've been wondering for a while.
I've been getting sick of TouchWiz. Not just the launcher (I got Nova the moment I could, and am still using it) but the customizations of the phone itself and the small annoyances that Verizon baked in, such as the always-on WiFi indicator. I've been debating going to a stock ROM for a long while, and I've made my decision to break free of the ridiculousness that is Verizon and Samsung's customizations, as they've made the phone slow, and I know it can run much better than it is right now. So here's my question:
What's the best stock Android ROM currently? I'd preferably want one that is
Being currently developed. I don't want a ROM with a lazy developer. (If ROMs are a few weeks late, I won't mind, but I don't want to be waiting forever to get the next .1 added to my version number.
Quick and minimal. Literally as close to stock Android as it can be. If there are things that need to be kept, such as the camera app, that's fine, but I'd like to rid myself of as much TouchWiz as I can.
Free of bugs. I know most ROMs aren't perfect. I'm fine with that. I need something to work as a stable daily driver, and I don't much care to hop on the next nightly I can find.
On the latest version of Android without bugs.
I have experience with rooting and flashing with Odin, but I haven't done it in a while, so if the method to root+flash is more than a one click or a couple of console commands, I'd like to be guided if possible. I have no want to brick my phone, as you can well imagine.
Also, if there's a list of stock ROMs for the Verizon GS3, I'd like to be pointed in that direction, if possible.
Thanks! I hope to hear from someone soon!
Not being rude but, if you were to take the amount of time you put into making this thread and actually looked throughout the forums you'd find a thread already on this or get this, you could go to the development threads and read the ops. Mind blowing right?
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Yeah, I know that. I could surf through bunches of ROMs, but I posted here as a question for community feedback on a bunch of them, that might help me make a decision.
Is asking for opinions and information less efficient than going through a list that's new territory for me?
I'm not stupid. I want advice and info from experienced users. Is that so hard to ask for?
Great thread idea. Surprised no one else has done this.
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You described most of the roms that this phone has. Most give you an option to keep phone stock, Based on each thread, they're all amazing to use daily. As far as being on the latest version you simply have to look at the thread title.
You'll definitely need to go through several threads and try them out to see what suits your needs best. It's not an easy task when there are several awesome developers on your phone!
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You described most of the roms that this phone has. Most give you an option to keep phone stock, Based on each thread, they're all amazing to use daily. As far as being on the latest version you simply have to look at the thread title.
You'll definitely need to go through several threads and try them out to see what suits your needs best. It's not an easy task when there are several awesome developers on your phone!
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Thanks! Didn't know I was delving into such a huge bunch of ROMs. Back in the X and Droid 2 days, I had to surf through a bunch of different ROMs that really weren't reliable. I know things have changed, but this seems pretty extreme.
If you know of any, which ones have you heard are the, well, "god-tier" ROMs? Any developers who are notable that I should check first?
Thanks again!
I wouldn't judge god tier roms, I'm happy to say that all of these roms on this device forum are just as reliable, it's only a matter of how your phone plays with the rom you end up choosing, since all devices play differently. Even if these threads are meant to be locked since they bring nothing but just opinions.
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I will say that there isn't a rom that is the best. It is all about your preference. I have had bad experiences with Synergy,Axis and CleanRom doesn't mean that these are sh***y roms.
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I wouldn't judge god tier roms, I'm happy to say that all of these roms on this device forum are just as reliable, it's only a matter of how your phone plays with the rom you end up choosing, since all devices play differently. Even if these threads are meant to be locked since they bring nothing but just opinions.
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Well, I was just looking for information on the best Roms for the GS3, but since all of the Roms are apparently great, could you list a couple? Even if they aren't "god-tier", are there at least some that fit the qualifications and are well known? I know there's not going to be a "These are the best ROMs ever" list, but are there a few that are highly maintained, or some developers that are well known besides CyanogenMod?
Sorry if I seem new to this whole thing.
Barebones stock is pretty much all I've been for almost a month, and at this point I'm not ashamed to admit I'm a flashaholic, but i only flash his updates (andybones) and the great news is that he keeps the rom consistent in updates and solid Smoot performance.
Also hypredrive just got updated to rls 15 and that's another amazing rom that gets a monthly update and its worth the wait and a very determined developer.
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Thanks! Didn't know I was delving into such a huge bunch of ROMs. Back in the X and Droid 2 days, I had to surf through a bunch of different ROMs that really weren't reliable. I know things have changed, but this seems pretty extreme.
If you know of any, which ones have you heard are the, well, "god-tier" ROMs? Any developers who are notable that I should check first?
Thanks again!
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You should give every rom a go, but you can start testing with Synergy. Try it for a week, and then test another rom
Sorry, "Best" is a term that is subjective and can only be defined by the individual, the post above/before me is a good idea.
XDA is not a support site, users are expected to use and test on their own.
Best Rom Threads = Closed Threads
I'm currently still using my Galaxy S3 with Verizon. Since it's been a while that I had an HTC (OG Incredible) I wanted to get back. It was between this and the LG G3. I ordered this from SWAPPA and it comes rooted with s-off and the HK audio modification. Since there is an abundance of information I would prefer to just ask questions instead of reading all of the pages on the forum my main question is how does CyanogenMod and generally AOSP ROMs run on this phone? Should I just stick with CleanRom?
Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716306
GPE Rom. Been running it for about a week now. No issues at all. Some are reporting camera lag, but I haven't noticed any.
CM is still on nightlies I believe, but it seems pretty stable from what everyone is posting.
If you want a closer to stock experience, stick with CleanRom. I had that from Day 1 and not one issue showed up.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716306
GPE Rom. Been running it for about a week now. No issues at all. Some are reporting camera lag, but I haven't noticed any.
CM is still on nightlies I believe, but it seems pretty stable from what everyone is posting.
If you want a closer to stock experience, stick with CleanRom. I had that from Day 1 and not one issue showed up.
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Thanks for the advice. I'll look at that one. I'm also going to keep an eye on CM.
On AOSP you will loose your hk mod and any other sense features i.e. dual camera ect.
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shiznu said:
On AOSP you will loose your hk mod and any other sense features i.e. dual camera ect.
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If you want the best rom I would go with viperone you wont find anything better promise you that.
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If you want the best rom I would go with viperone you wont find anything better promise you that.
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Can't argue with that, I've tried every rom available and keep coming back to Viper.
In the past few days, I've seen that a lot of devices have started to get Lollipop ROMs, such as the 1+1, Xperia Z3, Galaxy SIII Mini, and even the SII. I am wondering, is there any developer currently working on Lollipop for the d2vzw/d2lte? If not, does anybody have any idea how to compile Lollipop for the SIII?
Been lurking around as well. Noticed that the i9300 and the i747 models (no longer unified) both have Alpha Lollipop roms in production. Currently on Moto X (First Gen) but would love to dust off the old GS3 to get an early taste of 5.0. Been looking into porting but it's well over my head, plus I don't want to be the guy who bricks his backup by trying to port an early rom build. Would love to see a thread pop up tho about a release
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Been lurking around as well. Noticed that the i9300 and the i747 models (no longer unified) both have Alpha Lollipop roms in production. Currently on Moto X (First Gen) but would love to dust off the old GS3 to get an early taste of 5.0. Been looking into porting but it's well over my head, plus I don't want to be the guy who bricks his backup by trying to port an early rom build. Would love to see a thread pop up tho about a release
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Carbon Rom is moving in that direction, but it will take some time to see a build I'm sure. They don't tend to release unpolished roms.. Especially on a new version of Android
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Carbon Rom is moving in that direction, but it will take some time to see a build I'm sure. They don't tend to release unpolished roms.. Especially on a new version of Android
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Makes sense. Haven't been around the scene in a while (my Moto X is locked down tight) so I thought I'd take a peek and see if you guys were getting any Lollipop love just yet lol Thanks for the response and I look forward to what the devs push out soon!
Welp, did a bit of digging and got the rom working on my GS3 but unfortunately I have no signal (voice) but LTE is working. At this point I imagine it's a kernel issue unless someone knows otherwise. gonna do a bit more digging tonight to see if I can't fix the problem.
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Welp, did a bit of digging and got the rom working on my GS3 but unfortunately I have no signal (voice) but LTE is working. At this point I imagine it's a kernel issue unless someone knows otherwise. gonna do a bit more digging tonight to see if I can't fix the problem.
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Any update on the build? The d2att/ATT SIII has a working build already. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-att/orig-development/cyanogenmod-12-t2944071
Would it be possible to compile this for the VZW SIII?
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Any update on the build? The d2att/ATT SIII has a working build already. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-att/orig-development/cyanogenmod-12-t2944071
Would it be possible to compile this for the VZW SIII?
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i wonder if it would be safe to flash that. are all d2lte phones the same
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i wonder if it would be safe to flash that. are all d2lte phones the same
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It's not safe. DO NOT flash an AT&T ROM on the Verizon variant.
kidhudi said:
i wonder if it would be safe to flash that. are all d2lte phones the same
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Absolutely not. Only if it specifically states d2lte. This one says d2att which can and will brick your device
From my CM11 S3
I am really excited for a lolipop ROM. Do you guys know of any developers working on one for the VZW GS3?
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I am really excited for a lolipop ROM. Do you guys know of any developers working on one for the VZW GS3?
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One of them may be updated, I'm not aware of any but I'm not always in the development forums anymore
From my CM11 S3
As the others have stated, I wouldn't recommend flashing the At&t variant even though we share similar hardware (basically the same). Since the GS3 is my backup, I tweaked their rom and it booted for me, but like I said, there is no voice/sms working even tho LTE does activate oddly. I went to the IRC to see what I needed to look into but the devs there confirmed that they are indeed working on a rom for you guys already and I know they have made better progress than me. Wasn't looking to duplicate efforts, so I said I'd just stop and wait like everyone else cuz it'll be so much safer in the end. Sorry if I got anyone hyped but legit builds are in the works by expert devs, so no worries!
Edit: What I tell ya http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57012966&postcount=1502
Theres a VZW Lollipop ROM from Mastamoon that works pretty well. Its under his CM11.X thread though, a link on that thread is a page back or so.
Camera doesn't work, but you can download open camera from the market which works.
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Didn't realize @TheSiK1 already linked it.
MastaMoon said hes not really gonna work on it much though...
Are there other devs you talked to that are working in it or just MastaMoon?
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Theres a VZW Lollipop ROM from Mastamoon that works pretty well. Its under his CM11.X thread though, a link on that thread is a page back or so.
Camera doesn't work, but you can download open camera from the market which works.
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Didn't realize @TheSiK1 already linked it.
MastaMoon said hes not really find work on it much though...
Are there other devs you talked to that are working in it or just MastaMoon?
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CM12 official will be here soon enough. After reading a bunch of comments it's quite buggy. Personally I'm going to wait to flash it
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I'm using right now and considering, I found the first 4.4.4 ROMs much bugger than this one. Using it as a daily driver. Home button only works after screen is unlocked. Can't wake phone using home button.
sjpritch25 said:
I'm using right now and considering, I found the first 4.4.4 ROMs much bugger than this one. Using it as a daily driver. Home button only works after screen is unlocked. Can't wake phone using home button.
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If its buggier than CM11 how come the home button doesn't work properly? Sounds like a bug to me, this is a good reason why a lot of people don't test things out until the bugs are worked out
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ShapesBlue said:
If its buggier than CM11 how come the home button doesn't work properly? Sounds like a bug to me, this is a good reason why a lot of people don't test things out until the bugs are worked out
From my CM11 S3
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There's no question its not perfect.
I don't mind being a bit of a guinea pig as long as it doesn't brick my phone!
I'm just surprised its not more buggy than it is this early on!
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There's no question its not perfect.
I don't mind being a bit of a guinea pig as long as it doesn't brick my phone!
I'm just surprised its not more buggy than it is this early on!
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True, but I'm not one to always jump on a rom right away. Plus CM from cyanogen mod will be out soon enough anyways
From my CM11 S3
ShapesBlue said:
True, but I'm not one to always jump on a rom right away. Plus CM from cyanogen mod will be out soon enough anyways
From my CM11 S3
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The build, at least for me, has been pretty great so far. The home button does in fact work, you just can't wake the phone with the home button. But I understand that people need something very stable to use, but I'm OK with a few bugs.