Use tablet as touchpad when connected to big monitor/TV? (not simple mirroring) - General Questions and Answers

I'm surprised to learn that we must keep our eyes on the tablet while clumsily tapping even when the tablet is connected to a big display.
Instead of plugging a mouse into the touchpad (I guess that's the current workaround), why not turn the tablet into a touchpad when mirroring the display of the tablet on a large screen? With that setup, the tablet display wouldn't actually be mirrored, the big display would look like a desktop computer display with a pointer floating around on it. Also, the virtual touchpad on the tablet could be resizable so that you could simultaneously show a virtual keyboard (neither of which would show on the big display). Or there could be a spot on the tablet display tapped to switch between virtual keyboard and touchpad. Again, neither showing up on the big display.
Let me know if I'm not being clear enough. This has nothing to do with simply mirroring the tablet display to a monitor/TV, I know that can be done through MHL and HDMI stuff. Also, it has nothing to do with using the tablet as a touchpad for another computer. The only components are the tablet and the big display (monitor or TV).
And of course if it's already been done, please let me know.

The simplest of implementations...
The big display would mirror the tablet display. The tablet would show a tiny pointer. How small doesn't matter because you won't be looking at the tablet. The pointer location would correspond to the current pointer location as shown by "developer options" on anAndroid. That pointer would be driven by touch. That should be easy enough, the only difference is that a relative pointer position would be used instead of current finger point position.
Apparently 99% of the programming for this stuff is already done on Android tablets. Probably also on iPads or whatever. It would just need a GUI switch and to make a few tiny adjustments when connected to a monitor.
VoiceScripter said:
I'm surprised to learn that we must keep our eyes on the tablet while clumsily tapping even when the tablet is connected to a big display.
Instead of plugging a mouse into the touchpad (I guess that's the current workaround), why not turn the tablet into a touchpad when mirroring the display of the tablet on a large screen? With that setup, the tablet display wouldn't actually be mirrored, the big display would look like a desktop computer display with a pointer floating around on it. Also, the virtual touchpad on the tablet could be resizable so that you could simultaneously show a virtual keyboard (neither of which would show on the big display). Or there could be a spot on the tablet display tapped to switch between virtual keyboard and touchpad. Again, neither showing up on the big display.
Let me know if I'm not being clear enough. This has nothing to do with simply mirroring the tablet display to a monitor/TV, I know that can be done through MHL and HDMI stuff. Also, it has nothing to do with using the tablet as a touchpad for another computer. The only components are the tablet and the big display (monitor or TV).
And of course if it's already been done, please let me know.
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Anybody connect their tablet to a large monitor? Enjoy fumbling around on the tablet when you could be using precise pointer control? Think this might help for stuff like browsing?
Anybody?

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Changing the screen size when connected via hdmi?

When i plug in my transformer into my tv how do i change the size of the screen? The home buttons are cut off so its impossible to use it with my bluetooth keyboard and mouse
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you can't as far as I know of. oh, and did you know that many buttons on the keyboard and mouse can replace the android ones
for example:
both right clicking the mouse and pressing escape on the keyboard count as a back key
the "windows" or super button on your keyboard (or control on an apple keyboard, I think) will bring you back home
as for the menu button, I remember it being somewhere on the keyboard, but I don't remember where right now (if I find out, I'll update you on it)
as far as other things such as the clock and battery, you might be better off getting a longer hdmi cord and proping up the transformer on a table somewhere in sight so you can read the battery gauge and time from that. otherwise, good luck with your setup
(try control, alt, or any one of the function keys and then try insert because I am like 90% sure it's one of those)
This is not something you can change on the transformer, but on your tv there should be adjustments that you can make to fit the image. For instance on an LG that i have in my room there is an option to change the aspect ratio of the display, and one of those is to manually adjust it. Same thing on the Samsungs we've got also.
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i have the same problem..tried 3 tv but still happen..films all ok,but when i am in homecsreen the status bar and the top of the screen are cutted.....i tried also change kernel,hdmi cable,hdmi to mini-hdmi converter but nothin'....anyone who can help me?

[Q] Hiding the mouse pointer.

I have one of those Android HDMI TV sticks (A variant of CX-01, to be exact.) running 4.0.4, successfully rooted and hacked up to my liking. There is one thing I would like it to do, which, in my case, is the reason to own it in the first place: I need a very portable presentation device, which I could plug into anything with a HDMI socket and play a presentation. (As a side note, it boots whenever it gets power supplied, so you can use it as a very hidden cheap web server - it's smaller than a Raspberry Pi.)
There is a problem with this usage, however. The device comes with a 2.4 GHz wireless accelerometer-based mouse with a few buttons, which is it's only input device, connected over USB OTG. (Replacing it with something else would be very much not cost-effective) That mouse is only usable because when it is connected, ICS displays a mouse pointer on screen, otherwise, navigation would be way too cumbersome. I have replaced the stock mouse pointer with a smaller one by replacing the png image in framework-res.apk, and it's good enough. Using Hide Bar, I was able to hide the status bar (the wireless mouse has back and home buttons) so I get the full screen for my presentation.
During the presentation itself, I need an input device to move between individual slides and otherwise trigger execution, buttons on the wireless mouse work, or can be reassigned in various ways. However, I need the mouse pointer to invisible during that, as the motion sensitive wireless mouse would make it move constantly while I'm talking with the mouse in my hand.
There is apparently no way to temporarily disable the accelerometer in the mouse itself, while it has a power button that disables it entirely, it turns off everything, including the buttons, and pressing the buttons enables the mouse again.
This means I need a software means to temporarily hide or disable the mouse pointer. (I can obviously permanently hide it by replacing the pointer with a transparent PNG. That would make it very hard to control the device, because the only button it has to trigger a control actually simulates a left click, so it's out.) Extensive googling failed to provide an answer -- most of the time people who get a mouse pointer they don't want seem to eventually give up and pick a HID device which does not produce it instead. As far as I can see, there can only be two ways to do it:
Somehow get the OS to think it has no mouse HID device, or that it's not moving.
Somehow force the mouse pointer to stick to a corner of the screen and keep it there while it's not needed.
Unfortunately I could find no clear sources on either method. I'm not above some hacking and programming to get it done, but I would appreciate an advice on what to look for.

Dosbox Turbo mouse trouble

I setup Daggerfall with mouse set to physical and have tried both relative and absolute and in game mouse look turned on, the problem is that i can only turn about 90 degree from left to right. When the android cursor hits the edge of the screen i can no longer turn. Any suggestions on how to fix this would be much appreciated.
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Babalonis said:
I setup Daggerfall with mouse set to physical and have tried both relative and absolute and in game mouse look turned on, the problem is that i can only turn about 90 degree from left to right. When the android cursor hits the edge of the screen i can no longer turn. Any suggestions on how to fix this would be much appreciated.
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I have the same issue with my nexus7 and I think that most other devices will have it too... Obviously, this problem isn't specific just for daggerfall - since the android mouse pointer won't leave the screen, you can't turn in any 3D game (or scroll in strategy games... etc.).
To my knowledge, there is no way to disable android mouse pointer and I have read that google forbids apps to disable it too. I use a simple workaround which is to set the mouse pointer speed in android settings to minimum - than the mouse in dosbox moves a lot faster that the android mouse.
It won't solve the problem completely, but it makes the games playable - you still need to be careful not to hit the edge of the screen with android mouse pointer, but you can turn about 720 degrees in one direction before that happends (than you just move the cursor back to the center of the screen and continue playing...)
Unfortunately, I think that the only way to get rid of the android mouse pointer completely is to flash a custom rom which doesn't have mouse support built in at all (but of course than you couldn't use the mouse anymore - except for gaming in dosbox...)
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karyk said:
I have the same issue with my nexus7 and I think that most other devices will have it too... Obviously, this problem isn't specific just for daggerfall - since the android mouse pointer won't leave the screen, you can't turn in any 3D game (or scroll in strategy games... etc.).
To my knowledge, there is no way to disable android mouse pointer and I have read that google forbids apps to disable it too. I use a simple workaround which is to set the mouse pointer speed in android settings to minimum - than the mouse in dosbox moves a lot faster that the android mouse.
It won't solve the problem completely, but it makes the games playable - you still need to be careful not to hit the edge of the screen with android mouse pointer, but you can turn about 720 degrees in one direction before that happends (than you just move the cursor back to the center of the screen and continue playing...)
Unfortunately, I think that the only way to get rid of the android mouse pointer completely is to flash a custom rom which doesn't have mouse support built in at all (but of course than you couldn't use the mouse anymore - except for gaming in dosbox...)
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You are correct in that the Android OS does not expose any API's to disable the Android mouse pointer. This becomes a problem in some games, because the Android mouse pointer will not go past the screen edges, thus disabling scrolling when you are using an external mouse (ie. bluetooth mouse or touchpad on the TF101).
There are four possible work-arounds built into dosbox turbo:
1. Screen Scaling Reduction + Absolute Mouse Mode (w/Hardware mouse):
In the settings menu, try reducing the screen scaling to less than 100% (ie. 90 or 95%). This will leave a small black border around the screen. When dosbox Turbo detects that the Android Mouse pointer has entered this black border, it should then emulate the mouse at the 'edge' of the screen. This special work-around will only work in "absolute" mouse mode, as there is no easy way to emulate such behavior in relative mode.
2. Analog GamePad mouse Emulation (w/Hardware Gamepad)
In DosBox Turbo 2.1.7+ analog sticks on gamepads are automapped to mouse and joystick control. So if you plug a Logitech, XBOX, or other supported gamepad into your TF101, the right stick will control the mouse movement, while the left stick will control the joystick.
3. Virtual On-Screen Mouse Emulation (w/Virtual Joystick)
If you go to the setting Virtual Joystick -> Use Joystick as Mouse, then when you enable to virtual onscreen joystick, it will then control the on screen mouse.
4. Touchscreen Mouse (w/Touchscreen)
The final work-around is to go back to the default touchscreen mouse. Using the above screen scale reduction trick + absolute mode will allow for scrolling in games that work with absolute mouse mode. Relative mouse mode is not affected by the scrolling issue.
I'm having an issue while using DOSBox:
I can't play shooters like BLOOD etc. using the right analog stick of the Samsung Gamepad for Android (GP-EI20) which is connected via Bluetooth to my Galaxy Note 3.
Everything else works but the right analog stick is just not being recognized (simply as if there wouldn't be one).
I'd like to use the right analog stick for mouse strafing but don't know how to solve / configure this.
Any suggestions?

TF300T + Wacom Tablet

Is there something I can load into my TF300T (I am currently on Marshmallow since I want to use the Keyboard dock) so that it recognizes my Wacom Tablet as a mouse? From what I've read there are issues with the pressure sensitivity, etc. However I just want to use it as a mouse, regardless of pressure sensitivity. With apps like Autodesk or ArtRage just so I can still practice on the go.
A bit low on funds so I'm trying my best to simply work with what I have. Is there a kernel that exists to support this?
Right now, when I plug this Wacom tablet in, it lights up but there is no cursor on screen (even when I deactivate the touchpad on the keyboard, since I thought maybe it was too much interference).
I am hoping it's as simple as something I have overlooked or can DIY. A lot of the other posts I've seen are concerning themselves with the pressure sensitivity and all I'm looking to do is really just do some line work on some of the apps as if it were the cursor from a regular mouse.
Any response is appreciated!
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Logitech Universal. Bluetooth Folio for the HD 8.9

Finding decent accessories for this tablet is hard. Especially when it comes to cases as many of them are poorly made. A few days ago I went to Best Buy and bought the 'Universal Folio' by Logitech, however, I wasn't planning on doing so. My intentions were to buy a USB keyboard designed for tablets, and they already had some in stock of what I had looked at the least time I was there. I also needed a case. So I thought, why not kill two birds with one stone and buy it. The salesman let me open and look at it. I was impressed.
Initially I was going to pass at it. The front of the box says "Fits most 9-10in tablets." (This is a Kindle 8.9 and when it comes to Amazon products vs. accessories, yes size does matter). I flipped the box and read ALL of the back. On the right side, the last supported product listed, 'Amazon Kindle Fire 8.9 (HDX included). Score!
Retail at Best Buy was $59.99, ten dollars cheaper than the USB keyboard (not a case). Open it up, insert tablet under the two bottom tabs. Push up on both corners of the clamps on both sides and insert the upper half of the tablet below the clamps, allowing them to grasp it into place. You have a fully functional QWERTY keyboard, which is confusing to setup. Pull the yellow tag out of the battery case and switch on the Folio. Looking at the top right of the keyboard, you will see the F12 key which also has a Bluetooth symbol on it. Make sure you are in the tablet's Bluetooth settings and make sure the tablet's Bluetooth is on, and the folio is turned on. Press the bluetooth symbol (F12) on the folio and also tap it on your tablet. Select your options in the pop up box and tap ok. Enter their given pin number when it's displayed. You have about 10 seconds to enter it so be quick or you'll have to try again. No box will pop up, so just type the pin quickly and hit the enter key on the folio when done.
All in all, this is a really cool accessory. I give it 4 out of 5 stars and recommend it to anyone. My favorite part: it looks like a laptop Pictures attached.
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/universal-folio-tablet-keyboard-case
I wanted to get more out of this setup and wanted to get a mouse. Two things to know: 1) Although the tablets support USB OTG, they do not supply the port with enough power so the standard USB mouse, used with an OTG adapter, will NOT work. 2) A standard wireless mouse with the clip, also will NOT work.
So now I was left with the final option, Bluetooth. I wasn't sure if these tablets would run two Bluetooth devices at one time. I figured it was only $20 for a Bluetooth mouse, so I had nothing too much to lose. I again went to Best Website and looked for one. I got an HP Bluetooth mouse for $18.99, $20 off retail for Black Friday. Batteries were included (2 AA). Simply pull out the paper tab, turn on the Bluetooth on both devices, and select the mouse on your tablet. No pin number is required. Connection is near instant.
Since nearly everyone has rooted, TWRPed and rommed by now, you can I stall the Xposed Framework and install a module called 'Disable full screen keyboard.' this will add a toggle to a notification in the statusbar that allows you to turn off and on, the full screen keyboard "for any keyboard" allowing you the full physical keyboard experience. See attached photos below.
Disadvantages:
1) you may have trouble using this on your actual lap. The tow clips located on the bottom of the tablet, which hold the tablet in place when in the laptop format, pull up on the plastic ever so slightly when leaned back too far. This causes the connection between the battery and the folio, to become separated which causes the folio to constantly reconnect when pressing the screen too hard.
2) There's no padding between the screen and keyboard. The clips put about 1/4 inch between the screen and keyboard so make sure it's secure and the strap is pulled over properly or you'll scratch the screen big time.
3) Pressing the keys too quick or too hard will cause you to type double letters. This happens a lot for me. So if you're used to really pounding on the keys, you'll have to adjust your pressure.
4) The instructions are vague. If I hadn't figured out how to set it up on my own, it would've gone back to the store.
Issues with mouse?
I've recently been using a mouse with my tablet over Bluetooth but in most apps the "click" isn't working I have show touches on and obviously with my finger it shows up but with a mouse is does not, any chance you know a way round this? Cheers
bjscott55 said:
I've recently been using a mouse with my tablet over Bluetooth but in most apps the "click" isn't working I have show touches on and obviously with my finger it shows up but with a mouse is does not, any chance you know a way round this? Cheers
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Are you rooted? If so with or without a custom rom?
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DragonFire1024 said:
Are you rooted? If so with or without a custom rom?
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I am running a old ROM, I've figured it out now for anyone that is interested.
Simply download the octopus app from play store and launch your desired app you want to use a mouse on through that works flawlessly. Thankyou for your time.

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