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[Q] CID

Hi ,
Wanting to get rid of 3 uk junk and flash to normal UK RUU
Do we need super CID?
My bootloader is unlocked , can't download the RUU from from the Dev section as all the slots are gone , or when it seems to work it errors out .
Has anyone got the latest UK RUU file they can share with me and can someone confirm if I need Super CID to run RUU to unbrand
Thanks in Advance

Just flash Modaco or the Virtuous roms through recovery, these are unbranded and really good.
You will need to flash a Recovery image first though.

Hi and thanks
Yes , I understand this but I want to just unbrand through RUU then re-lock my bootloader.
Do we need Super CID ?

Ok can someone remind me if I need S-Off to change the CID , playing around with ADB at the moment

If Im honest mate, no idea what you mean by CID...
But if you want a new rom, all that needs to be done is unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash rom.
Thats all anyone has done in the dev threads, and worked fine for me (coming from a retail, unbranded unit).
You can 'lock' the bootloader again, BUT it never goes back to its true original state. This is as HTC designed their unlocking/locking process to be (and is stated in their terms when you go to their site to unlock).
Edit: OK, just read up on it. Possibly then! Depends how annoying 3 are I suppose... Probably best to ask one of the devs
Edit 2: CHeck the following, may be of help (though its for the One X)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594262
http://android.modaco.com/topic/353106-debrand-one-x/
Edit 3: If you're applying a flashable zip, does the CID limitiation on RUUs even come into play?

Hi thanks ,
Yea what I want to achieve is this .
My CID is HG3____001 this will need to be changed to a CID that is HTC UK specific usually HTC_____001
To find out your CID in ADB
Fastboot Getvar CID
To get to a retail version from a branded version , what usually needed to happen was this .
Unlock bootloader , change CID to 11111111 via ADB
Run the specific UK RUU.exe
Change your CID to the HTC_____001 which is the usual default for UK unbranded devices .
re-lock your bootloader and then you should receive OTA updates from HTC instead of your network supplier which can take months
I can't remember if S-off was needed to do this. I have just checked revolution site and One s is not listed , will play around tonight though and see
Thanks for the help so far

Hi, I know what CID is - coming from the Sensation.
I dont think its possible to change CID without S-OFF, you cant use advanced ADB functions with S-ON
Until revolutionary or someone else makes tool for S-OFF, we will just have to stick with HTCDev, Its not the best, but it allows to flash recovery and ROMs so its better than nothing.
Im pretty sure there will be some progress in the next few weeks, Once the phone is available worldwide

Ahh ok , thanks , yea this phone is set S- on , so S-off will be needed sooner or later

yeah, as development develops and more rights are needed from the phone, S-0FF will eventually be a MUST.
I wish it was available already, I hate the fact that HTC know i have tampered with my HBOOT and voided my warranty.
Luckily enough, if i have a problem, my provider fixes / repairs the phone, Not HTC, So i might just get off lightly

I think HTC will know if you have tampered with the phone period if they wish to look that far into it .
Unless you fry your processor where you have set it too high etc then shouldn't be a problem. If you have a hardware problem such as your screen fails , battery etc then should be fine .
As you say though , if you brought it through a retail unit then that is where it is returned so in some respects is a bit easier as they will use a third party repairer acting for HTC .

well with the sensation it was possible to return everything back to stock, Including the bootloader and S-ON..
There was no way it could be diagnosed as being tampered with, If you did it properly..
But with HTCDev. youve already submitted a code (which i assume contains serial number) so all they have to do is check whether that device matches anything on their database of tampered devices. Thats why i dislike it so much..
But i need root for most of my apps so there was no workaround for me...

I see on the One X forum S-off is under way . Can't wait to get this baby to true stock.
Just did another Google search for S-Off on the S but nothing as yet .

[Q] confused with the terms.. need help with root

hi..
i am all stranger to HTC world.. i have been using galaxy s, s2 and ace.. things were easier when it came to rooting and flashing custom roms.. or at least there was less terms.. 3 days ago i bougth Sensation XE and since then i have been reading every page but the more i read, the more i get cunfused...
so, what i want is basically trying new kernels, OCing, using apps like setcpu or titanium backup etc.. in order to do these rooting the device was enough with the galaxy devices.. but here there are lots of terms..
here is what i think i understand;
S-off= this means unlocking the NAND part to be re-writable i guess.. the funny part is; i want to root the device and i guess i have to S-off the device but it says in order to S-off the device you must have alredy rooted it? or i am wrong?
Hboot version=i think this is very important since we have to choose the methots according to this... mine is 1.27.0000
super CID= no idea what this is.. but i assume it has no important role on rooting..
and there is the bootloader unlock option= htcdev.com is doing it but they say if i do it my phone is out of warranty.. it is just a 3 day phone and i dont want to lose the warranty... and i also have read some post about it not being a complete unlock.. so any method other then offical HTC ones would be better for not losing the warranty (i am sure even if i lock it back when its necessary, HTC will still have the records of me unlocking my device and wont let me use the warranty) ..
and there is this guide on the development section, it is really helpfull but the date of it tells me it was before ice cream sandwich update and 1.27.0000 hboot version and some of the instructions confirms that... so i guess i need some other method to root my device ... (after everything i am not even sure if the rooting is excatly what i need)
long story for short; i am lost among the terms and instructions.. especially after i tried to S-off my device in order to root and learnt it needed to be rooted first in order to be S-off .....
so please help me with the terms and instructions..
thanks ..

Okay, root is not needed to s off.
S-off disables the security on your bootloader.
Supercid means you can flash any piece of software no matter what area or network it was intended for, as each one has a cid code that restricts the software to the network or countrys phone e.g. unbranded sensations cid is HTC__001 and Vodafone would be VODA__xx. Supercid changes your cid to 11111111 which means everything that is protected by any cid code will work on your phone.
Back to s-off, using revolutionary tool is pretty easy as long as you follow the instructions correctly but will not work on hboot 1.27 so it requires downgrading using an ruu or eng. Hboot 1.17 or finding another method to s off 1.27, once s off using revolutionary all you have to do is flash a custom recovery and then flash superuser and voila your rooted. But you can also s-off, install custom recovery, upgrade firmware to 1.27 and flash a prerooted custom Rom which obviously does the trick. Just make sure to keep a track of what firmware you are on and make sure it works with what your doing and the Rom you're using. Oh and htcdev unlock is not necessary as you can flash a firmware with a unlocked bootloader plus revolutionary also unlocks bootloader. And as far as warranty goes, once s off or bootloader is unlocked your warranty is VOID.
Hope this helps
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Fİnally! everything makes sense thanks a lot..
so the first step is to downgrade to a firmware which i can S-off and unlock, then to get back to pre-rooted version of my current firmware..
so i assume just like i can downgrade, S-off and unlock, i also can upgrade, S-on and lock back when i need the warranty?

Almost firmware contains the radio and Hboot etc, to obtain root you just first s off on the downgraded firmware, then upgrade to an unlocked firmware that is for ics. The firmware for ics is 3.32 which contains Hboot 1.27 but of course you cannot s off on this version of Hboot. Then flash a pre rooted ROM once you have gone back to ics firmware using a custom recovery. Once s off, you will not lose it when upgrading to a new firmware. But to s-on is risky but if you manage to do it without semi bricking your phone and then flash a locked bootloader HTC will never know you've voided your warranty as long as your on an unrooted Rom. I will pm you a great link for doing this and explaining as I know this is confusing. I won't post it here because its on another forum.
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this really explains everything.. its just like showing the entire map and also telling the route.. thank you very much, you are the best

No problem if you could hit the thanks button I would greatly appreciate it
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Desire S Bootloader Question

I have read various guides, and eventually taken the plunge to downgrade my bootloader.
htcDev Unlock
Goldcard
Install oldest RUU
S-OFF using revolutionary
Flash CWM recovery
Backup Stock 2.33 ROM with Sense
Install CM9
Feeling quite pleased with myself, even though you guys have really done all the hard work, I've just followed the steps!
What I can't find is this;
If I go back to the Stock ROM and updates are offered OTA, if I accept, will this, not only bring me back to 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0, but also change my bootloader back to 2.00.0002 Locked and S-ON ?

Unfortunately it will be *RELOCKED* and S-ON
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amidabuddha said:
Unfortunately it will be *RELOCKED* and S-ON
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What he said. If you wanted to remain "locked" and not "relocked" - you should have avoided unlocking the bootloader, and should have used temp-root for misc_version.

Ok, what are the inplications of being 'RE-LOCKED'
Like CM9, but get the feeling development stalled, also certain apps won't work Nat West being one, though I suspect that is to do with their development.
Thinking about going back to Stock. If I do this via OTA, my bootloader will be upgraded back to 2.00.0002, 'RE-LOCKED' and S-ON, then wait for official OTA upgrade to ICS, which seems not to be happening as per HTC announcements. Even then I may have issues with apps that haven't been coded to deal with it.
If I am 'RE-LOCKED' can I not use htcDev again, or am I stuck with the Official bootloader etc and unable to load other ROMS, or can I just repeat the processes I have been through already?
I have also been reading about unlocking with an XTC Clip, where would I get this done, Is this a better solution? etc etc..

No issues with RELOCKED except that your warranty is gone.
If you have no warranty you can go for XTC Clip, since permanent S-OFF will give you more freedom in terms of modifications. Personally I consider flashing boot.img separately each time as annoying.
As per the unlock again, it should be possible, but I am not sure if this can be done by a fastboot command or the unlock token has to be flashed again.
Sent from my HTC Desire S

When I unlocked mine I remember reading somewhere that the token would need to be used again if the phone was re locked. So I kept it just in case

[Q] Rebrand Desire S with ICS wwe from HTCDEV

Dear all,
I am in the middle of the bridge and don't know where to go...could you please give some help deciding what to do?
I have a Branded Desire S (Vodafone) with v2.3.5 lastest OTA update, and I would like to flash and try the ICS stock WWE from HTCDEV.
The simlock has already been removed, but the thing is can i flash this ICS update? do i need any goldcard or anything of the kind? Will the phone work ok? Or do i have to wait (maybe forever...) for the vodafone update? I reallly would like to unbrand the phone (the vodafone logo and other vodefone apps are really annoying...).
I think if this WWE update will go ok, when i received and warning about any vodafone update (because the serial indicates that this phone is a vodafone one) i have to ignore it and only apply only any WWE updates from HTCDEV, rather than that, i thing phone will work ok... but still i am worried about some things like :
- bricking phone with ICS update;
- some things don't work ok with this update because is a branded phone (i chat with HTC support and they told me that some guy complained about WIFI does not work after the ICS update, ... could it be possible, even if the hardware is the same from branded and unbranded phones?;
- possibility to go back to a 2.3.5 rom if i dont like for whatever reason of the ICS of its behavior on this phone; the HTC guy told me that only on the HTC assistance was possible to make it ... dont we just have to run the correct version of the ROM (by the way i don't know which is mine, could you please tell me? Because i seached on the HTCDEV for the right software number (2.10.168.3) and the file to download is a ".gz" file not a .exe one;
Other thing, does this ICS include a PTG (Portugal) language.
I will be forever grateful for all the help / hints you can give me.:good:
Thx in advance.
D_Saint :angel:

From what I've heard, the ics update has bugs, that can only be solved with root access. Flashing the ruu should work fine though, but you won't be able to downgrade without unlocking the bootloader to get root access.
For these reasons I would recommend making your phone s-off (see guides in the "general section), and installing a fixed version of the ics update, or whatever custom rom you want. Then you can still go back to the original state, if you want to.

I read somewhere on my downgrade guide that they have successfully debranded their phone using my guide.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app

Ditto to above two comments, read, read and then soff rather than htcdev
Sywepd form my DsereiS

Thx for tips, Will soff erase contacts or apps? For root with soff how to flash su??? Is there any repaired / bugless ics stock?

Applying RUUs on Unlocked 1.14/2.22 AT&T One X

Before anyone tries to flame me, I've read all of the recent ICS and JB rom threads, as well as most of the generic question threads. I've unlocked, rooted, and flashed several roms before settling on CleanROM so I am not a complete noob. The master q&a thread doesn't cover RUUs much, and people aren't that interested in applying non rootable RUUs, so info on going back to stock on a newer or even older RUU doesn't seem to be widely available. My biggest concern is bricking my phone or losing major functionality, as some people using asian based roms seem to be having reboot and/or wifi issues.
1. Applying a different carriers S4 JB RUU is perfectly safe as long as I relock the boot loader, even with Super-CID.
I've seen conflicting reports of issues with RUUs when you have Super-CID, even with the original shipping RUU and a relocked boot loader. Can someone confirm that using RUUs is safe as long as the boot loader is relocked? What if it isn't relocked? Just an error or a bricked phone?
2. Once you unlock your phone on 1.14, you are stuck with that radio forever unless you apply an RUU or switch to Cyanogenmod.
3. Assuming RUUs are safe, applying a different carriers' RUU on my AT&T One X won't hurt anything. There may be apn issues, but otherwise everything should work (especially the camera and wifi).
Again, I understand that without root, I may not be able to add apns anyway. AT&T at least seems to have blocked the ability on their stock rom; not sure if other carriers do the same.
I really appreciate the help. I have searched, so this is more of a confirmation than anything else. Just trying to avoid bricking my phone and learn something new at the same time.
Tim
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tlazarus said:
Before anyone tries to flame me, I've read all of the recent ICS and JB rom threads, as well as most of the generic question threads. I've unlocked, rooted, and flashed several roms before settling on CleanROM so I am not a complete noob. The master q&a thread doesn't cover RUUs much, and people aren't that interested in applying non rootable RUUs, so info on going back to stock on a newer or even older RUU doesn't seem to be widely available. My biggest concern is bricking my phone or losing major functionality, as some people using asian based roms seem to be having reboot and/or wifi issues.
1. Applying a different carriers S4 JB RUU is perfectly safe as long as I relock the boot loader, even with Super-CID.
I've seen conflicting reports of issues with RUUs when you have Super-CID, even with the original shipping RUU and a relocked boot loader. Can someone confirm that using RUUs is safe as long as the boot loader is relocked? What if it isn't relocked? Just an error or a bricked phone?
2. Once you unlock your phone on 1.14, you are stuck with that radio forever unless you apply an RUU or switch to Cyanogenmod.
3. Assuming RUUs are safe, applying a different carriers' RUU on my AT&T One X won't hurt anything. There may be apn issues, but otherwise everything should work (especially the camera and wifi).
Again, I understand that without root, I may not be able to add apns anyway. AT&T at least seems to have blocked the ability on their stock rom; not sure if other carriers do the same.
I really appreciate the help. I have searched, so this is more of a confirmation than anything else. Just trying to avoid bricking my phone and learn something new at the same time.
Tim
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Im on hboot 1.14, firmware 2.20 att. Unlocked , rooted , flashed Rom. However , I had some problem then decided go back stock.
1. Downloaded ruu2.20 for att
2. Relock bootloader
3. Boot phone to bootloader mode then run ruu. Now my phone is stock
P/s :
- you don't need to root your phone to add apn . I can add T-Mobile apn just fine after I flashed ruu.
- ruu.exe can't run if you bootloader is unlocked.
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tritran18518 said:
Im on hboot 1.14, firmware 2.20 att. Unlocked , rooted , flashed Rom. However , I had some problem then decided go back stock.
1. Downloaded ruu2.20 for att
2. Relock bootloader
3. Boot phone to bootloader mode then run ruu. Now my phone is stock
P/s : you don't need to root your phone to add apn .
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Thanks - that answers my RUU questions as far as going back to stock using RUUs. I assume the same applies to other carrier's RUUs, i.e. Telus/Asia. What about using an OTA on a phone with Super-CID?

redpoint73 said:
A factory reset or running the RUU will not change the CID.
SuperCID doesn't prevent you from getting the AT&T OTA (although root and unlocked bootloader will).
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jiggamanjb said:
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Okay, I think that answers my questions. No problems with using a RUU, AT&T or otherwise, as long as it is for the XL. Stuck on my current radio unless I use a RUU. And I need to relock my bootloader before applying a RUU, although I can unlock it after. I will lose root, however. Thanks!