[Q] Motorola RAZR confusion - RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is there a difference between the Droid RAZR, Droid RAZR HD, Droid RAZR Maxx, and the Droid RAZR Maxx HD. My phone said Droid RAZR HD but I'm very confused and I'm worried I have a lot of important software that was for a different model. If it helps the system version is xt926.
Thanks
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The Droid Razr was the first "Razr" phone with Android, released in 2011.
The Droid Razr HD is the successor from 2012 with different hardware.
"MAXX" versions are the same phones with more storage and/or a bigger battery.
But to get things a bit more compicated: The Droid Maxx (without "Razr") is the 2013 successor to the Razr HD.
So, to sum up, the Droid Razr and the Droid Razr HD are different devices.

miapuffia said:
Is there a difference between the Droid RAZR, Droid RAZR HD, Droid RAZR Maxx, and the Droid RAZR Maxx HD. My phone said Droid RAZR HD but I'm very confused and I'm worried I have a lot of important software that was for a different model. If it helps the system version is xt926.
Thanks
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Well, your's is the Droid RAZR HD or Droid RAZR MAXX HD. I have the Droid RAZR HD.
As far as software goes,it doesn't matter. The Droid RAZR HD and Droid RAZR MAXX HD are the same hardware-wise other than the MAXX has a larger battery. Otherwise, all the other parts are the same. What runs on the MAXX HD will run on the HD and vice-versa.
The XT912 is the original Droid RAZR line and is different from what you have. It's much slower and the battery life is not as good as on the XT926 models.

And... the Razr Maxx HDTV gets 32 GB of onboard storage whereas the slightly thinner Razr HD gets only 16 GB, just to clear up any further confusion.

PhoneBill said:
And... the Razr Maxx HDTV gets 32 GB of onboard storage whereas the slightly thinner Razr HD gets only 16 GB, just to clear up any further confusion.
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I keep forgetting that little piece of info. Luckily for me, the 16gb of onboard storage (internal data plus internal sd card) has been just fine for me. Never run out of space.
Of course, having an external 64gb SD card helps a lot too. :good:

I must have made a mistake because my phone says its a Droid RAZR Maxx HD and it has 32gb of storage. Thanks anyway for the useful information.
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miapuffia said:
I must have made a mistake because my phone says its a Droid RAZR Maxx HD and it has 32gb of storage. Thanks anyway for the useful information.
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No problem. The Droid RAZR HD (which I have) and the Droid RAZR MAXX HD (what you have) has the exact identical hardware with the following exceptions as was stated earlier:
1. RAZR MAXX HD has 32 gb of storage as opposed to the RAZR HD's 16 gb of internal storage
2.RAZR MAXX HD has a larger battery than the RAZR HD
But, in the end, the same OTA's for KK work for either phone as they are both the XT926 model. Everything else, CPU, camera, etc, is the same architecture.

Does this mean that there are no limitations to what I can install on either, including rooms and recoveries? Or should I find things for the Maxx specifically just to be safe?
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miapuffia said:
Does this mean that there are no limitations to what I can install on either, including rooms and recoveries? Or should I find things for the Maxx specifically just to be safe?
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Again, there is nothing specific between the MAXX HD and the RAZR HD. They are the same hardware. Only the battery and storage is different which doesn't affect which ROM for RAZR HDs to install. Any rom for the RAZR HD will install on the RAZR MAXX HD. No ROM is made specific to either one. They are both XT926.
As far as flashing ROMs, you need to know the answer to the following question
Is your bootloader locked or unlocked?
If your bootloader is locked, then you are stuck using only Safestrap ROMs IF you are still on Jellybean. You cannot use TWRP or CWM regardless of whether or not you are on JB or KK. If you are on KK (via the OTA), then I do not believe the Safestrap recovery will work since it hasn't been updated to work with KK. Therefore, you are stuck using the stock KK image from the OTA and there's no going back to JB either with a locked bootloader.
If you are on JB, then you can use Safestrap to load the limited set of Safestrap ROMs to your phone. You MUST read each ROM carefully to see if it's Safestrap ready. If it's not, then it won't work with Safestrap.
Most ROMs are not Safestrap since at one point, you could unlock the bootloader for the RAZR HD/RAZR MAXX HD which allows you to use a different kernel since the bootloader is unlocked. Therefore, the majority of ROMs that are still being updated using either TWRP or CWM which are for unlocked bootloaders only. However, Motorola has patched the phones so that those that never unlocked the bootloader before the patch can now no longer unlock the bootloader. So, if you missed the boat on unlocking your bootloader and upgraded the OS before unlocking, you are stuck with a locked bootloader and there is NO other way to unlock it, ever. So, don't ask how to do it or if someone will find a way to do it. They won't. It's a done deal, and there's no way to do it.
If you upgraded to KK with an unlocked bootloader, then only CWM will work but there are no working KK-based ROMs (based off of the official OTA) yet. We have to wait for the official FXZ image to come out for KK before that happens. However, unlocked bootloaders can flash back to stock JB whereas locked bootloaders cannot.

iBolski said:
Again, there is nothing specific between the MAXX HD and the RAZR HD. They are the same hardware. Only the battery and storage is different which doesn't affect which ROM for RAZR HDs to install. Any rom for the RAZR HD will install on the RAZR MAXX HD. No ROM is made specific to either one. They are both XT926.
As far as flashing ROMs, you need to know the answer to the following question
Is your bootloader locked or unlocked?
If your bootloader is locked, then you are stuck using only Safestrap ROMs IF you are still on Jellybean. You cannot use TWRP or CWM regardless of whether or not you are on JB or KK. If you are on KK (via the OTA), then I do not believe the Safestrap recovery will work since it hasn't been updated to work with KK. Therefore, you are stuck using the stock KK image from the OTA and there's no going back to JB either with a locked bootloader.
If you are on JB, then you can use Safestrap to load the limited set of Safestrap ROMs to your phone. You MUST read each ROM carefully to see if it's Safestrap ready. If it's not, then it won't work with Safestrap.
Most ROMs are not Safestrap since at one point, you could unlock the bootloader for the RAZR HD/RAZR MAXX HD which allows you to use a different kernel since the bootloader is unlocked. Therefore, the majority of ROMs that are still being updated using either TWRP or CWM which are for unlocked bootloaders only. However, Motorola has patched the phones so that those that never unlocked the bootloader before the patch can now no longer unlock the bootloader. So, if you missed the boat on unlocking your bootloader and upgraded the OS before unlocking, you are stuck with a locked bootloader and there is NO other way to unlock it, ever. So, don't ask how to do it or if someone will find a way to do it. They won't. It's a done deal, and there's no way to do it.
If you upgraded to KK with an unlocked bootloader, then only CWM will work but there are no working KK-based ROMs (based off of the official OTA) yet. We have to wait for the official FXZ image to come out for KK before that happens. However, unlocked bootloaders can flash back to stock JB whereas locked bootloaders cannot.
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I have jellybean 4.1.2 rooted with an unlocked bootloader and SafeStrap so I'm good to go right?

miapuffia said:
I have jellybean 4.1.2 rooted with an unlocked bootloader and SafeStrap so I'm good to go right?
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Correct, you could take the OTA right now and then if you don't like it, take an FXZ image (using SamuriHL's House of Moto tool) and flash yourself back to stock JB.
Go here to learn how to properly upgrade your phone to Kit Kat -> http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/#entry433486
This provides links to all the tools/software you need to get your phone upgraded to Kit Kat. Remember, he is also assuming you want to downgrade back to a previous version of JB so you can take the OTA. In your case, you might want to follow his directions to get yourself back to full stock, unrooted. Just uninstalling root alone won't help. You basically have to reimage your phone using this process back to a stock JB before taking the OTA.
The OTA is very picky about any modifications that might have been done to the phone (freezing apps, rooting, etc). SamuriHL's process will ensure your phone is back to stock just like it was out of the box when you first got your phone and that should provide you with a clean path to upgrade to Kit Kat on the RAZR HD or RAZR MAXX HD.

miapuffia said:
I have jellybean 4.1.2 rooted with an unlocked bootloader and SafeStrap so I'm good to go right?
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To add, If you have unlocked Bootloader, you should switch to CWM or TWRP. They have a better ROM support than Safestrap.

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Is rooting and flashing worth it yet?

As the title states I was wondering, after skimming through the HD forums that it seems like rooting and unlocking boot loader is just too much of a risk, I loved flashing roms and such on my optimus one but I'm iffy as to even attempt a root let alone a flash on a $500 device....
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Majestic3 said:
As the title states I was wondering, after skimming through the HD forums that it seems like rooting and unlocking boot loader is just too much of a risk, I loved flashing roms and such on my optimus one but I'm iffy as to even attempt a root let alone a flash on a $500 device....
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Rooting is but I haven't flashed a ROM.
Rooting and flashing ROMs is easy even on consumer xt926 with safestrap and the other utilities out there. The only problem atm the new 4.1.2 update and downgrading. I'm sure a fix is/will be out soon tho. This phone is very dependable just make sure to have backups and do research before trying.
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I'll post exactly what I posted when someone asked about unlocking boot loaders...
QUOTE=slickfing;39533253]IF ONLY U KNEW WHAT AN UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER COULD DO FOR U..YOU'D UNLOCK AND NOT ASK.
I HAVE AND IT'S THE BEST THING I EVER DID TO MY PHONE. I was wondering why I could flash easily on my s3 and note 2..till I read that those already shipped with UNLOCKED BOOTLOADERS..If samsung ships its phones with unlocked bootloaders (aside verizon), how could that be bad?
Know what I have done with my phone sizes?
1. I have flashed a recovery
2. backed up my rom
3. debloated my rom
4. removed my soft keys (u should see my screen)
5. phone runs excellently..no lag
6. installed LMT launcher
7. replaced my boot animation
List will continue and I've only had the phone for 4 days.
That's how awesome an unlocked bootloader has made my phone.
I dont use my s3 or note 2 anymore...actually sold them both.
Now i need to figure out how to overclock the phone.
Open to suggestions.[/QUOTE]
..n, I rooted my phone on a 4.1.2. Didn't downgrade
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See now but you can't unlock bootloader on vzw XT926 consumer edition... So it means you can have root on JB 4.1.2 If you can downgrade successfully and keep root successfully. But won't be able to flash roms cause of locked BL? Am I getting that right?
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as far as i know if u have taken the ota 4.1.2 then you will not be able to downgrade back and get root. if you havent updated yet see if this helps
droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/13644-keep-root-and-ability-to-downgrade/
it is too late for me but maybe not for others. honestly wish i would have found this before updating.
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xrxregenxrx said:
as far as i know if u have taken the ota 4.1.2 then you will not be able to downgrade back and get root. if you havent updated yet see if this helps
droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/13644-keep-root-and-ability-to-downgrade/
it is too late for me but maybe not for others. honestly wish i would have found this before updating.
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You're not alone... I'm in the same boat.
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[Q] Where to find instructions to root 9.16.6xt926 4.1.2?

So I just got this phone and it already has the latest OTA update. Is there a root for this yet? If so, direct me to it as I see links for only the previous version.
themagicm said:
So I just got this phone and it already has the latest OTA update. Is there a root for this yet? If so, direct me to it as I see links for only the previous version.
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If you got the latest OTA update on your phone already, there currently is no root for that version yet. The latest OTA update made downgrading to ICS undoable. So, if you're on the newest OTA, you'll pretty much have to sit tight until it's possible to root on Jelly Bean itself.
Rhyylia said:
If you got the latest OTA update on your phone already, there currently is no root for that version yet. The latest OTA update made downgrading to ICS undoable. So, if you're on the newest OTA, you'll pretty much have to sit tight until it's possible to root on Jelly Bean itself.
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cool.. TY for taking the time to answer my question.
check this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118483
rooted XT 925 with it, gotta read bout 926
hbenz2008 said:
check this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118483
rooted XT 925 with it, gotta read bout 926
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I saw that thread before I created this one, but it wasnt definite that it would work with 926 and 4.1.2, the latest OTA.
hbenz2008 said:
check this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118483
rooted XT 925 with it, gotta read bout 926
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That only works on the developer edition according to the third or fourth post. There is currently no root method for 4.1.2.
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newmanx4 said:
That only works on the developer edition according to the third or fourth post. There is currently no root method for 4.1.2.
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Yep..thats the conclusion I came up with.
Just for future reference to anyone holding out on installing the update: I used voodoo ota root keeper to transfer my root across the update and that worked great!
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jeddster2013 said:
Just for future reference to anyone holding out on installing the update: I used voodoo ota root keeper to transfer my root across the update and that worked great!
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Even for those who are on 926, 4.1.2 latest OTA that have never rooted their phone? From what I read, nothing is avail yet.
I too am on the lookout for a root method for version 926. Seems like the Razr Maxx Hd had even more bloatware than the prior Razr Maxx.
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hitch365ayr said:
I too am on the lookout for a root method for version 926. Seems like the Razr Maxx Hd had even more bloatware than the prior Razr Maxx.
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Yea... I had a Razr Maxx and used Titanium Backup to remove lots of it. Looking forward to doing the same thing with Razr Maxx Hd
I also used Titanium Backup to freeze all of the bloatware. I took it a step further and created a filter and labels for frequntly used apps that eat up system resources and data. For example, I would unfreeze as needed Google Play store and Maps etc., then refreeze. I saw a huge increase in battery life etc.
Anywho... hopefully a root method is on its way soon.
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Hopefully? Iord I've been praying for it and even trying to pay for it lol. I was so focused on getting the 4.1.2 update that I rushed it and found out a day or few later as other people got it that you can't even downgrade to previous versions (son of a Bi***....) so I seriously regret taking the update as now we are on a long waiting list that may never come...
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Cam someone ELI5 the benefits of unlocking my bootloader?

Specifically, what's the difference between unlocking and the old root method with safestrap?
Are roms now also more stable and less buggy than they were prior to the bootloader access being unlocked for devs? If so, could you briefly explain why that is?
My curiosity very much appreciates it.
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rockstarr001 said:
Specifically, what's the difference between unlocking and the old root method with safestrap?
Are roms now also more stable and less buggy than they were prior to the bootloader access being unlocked for devs? If so, could you briefly explain why that is?
My curiosity very much appreciates it.
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Safestrap can be used on both an locked and unlocked bootloader. The difference in roms + safestrap on a locked bootloader limited us to fully working stock based roms or incomplete other roms. This is due to being stuck coding for the stock kernel. On an unlocked device we can use a true recovery like twrp, make full backups, flash new radio and kernels, etc. Being unlocked means that roms other than stock based have a greater chance of fully working as the previous limitations are lifted. Unless you're scared about unlocking due to a warranty concern there's really no reason to stay locked.
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Okay, so it allows me to change the radio and bands if my phone as well? Could this be used to improve my 4G connection or is stock already efficient enough? (Verizon 4.1.2)
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rockstarr001 said:
Okay, so it allows me to change the radio and bands if my phone as well? Could this be used to improve my 4G connection or is stock already efficient enough? (Verizon 4.1.2)
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The radio on the hd for Verizon is great! I wouldn't worry about changing radios.
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[Q] Google Wallet

Still no solution for the google wallet for the razr hd/maxx. We have everything root on 4.1.2 and a unlocked bootloader. How is that possible that s4 has a potential solution for this problem and nothing for this phone. What is the hold up and how can I help..
I thought I read Google wallet can be side loaded if you're running a custom rom. Not sure where.
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jfriend33 said:
I thought I read Google wallet can be side loaded if you're running a custom rom. Not sure where.
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I tried this but for some reason my build.prop edit wouldn't stick I kept getting the same correct info in the About Phone section..
http://highonandroid.com/android-ap...t-on-any-rooted-android-smartphone-or-tablet/
I think I also read Verizon is blocking it and a different rom will allow it to work. I'll keep my eyes open.
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[Q] Maxx HD Unlock Bootloader for Verizon?

Hello. I do not own the Razr Maxx HD atm but I will be getting it in a month or two depending on a few things. I had a Nexus till the screen cracked on Memorial day. Now I am back on my Moto Droid X. My question is can the Verizon Consumer edition be unlocked? I have searched Google for a hour but I keep seeing conflicting information. I know there is a tool out for all Moto devices with Snapdragon processors. But I read it does not work for the Verizon edition. If that is the case do you think it will happen in the near future? Is it being worked on? Thanks
Edit: just read that it is possible to go back a firmware verison with the Verizon Maxx HD which I believe cannot be done without an unlocked bootloader. Still would like someone to confirm though
Yes, it's possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2307439
Use option #4 with this script.
killrhythm09 said:
Yes, it's possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2307439
Use option #4 with this script.
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So we should expect custom kernels soon? Thx I think I will get this phone then
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Sandman-007 said:
Hello. I do not own the Razr Maxx HD atm but I will be getting it in a month or two depending on a few things. I had a Nexus till the screen cracked on Memorial day. Now I am back on my Moto Droid X. My question is can the Verizon Consumer edition be unlocked? I have searched Google for a hour but I keep seeing conflicting information. I know there is a tool out for all Moto devices with Snapdragon processors. But I read it does not work for the Verizon edition. If that is the case do you think it will happen in the near future? Is it being worked on? Thanks
Edit: just read that it is possible to go back a firmware verison with the Verizon Maxx HD which I believe cannot be done without an unlocked bootloader. Still would like someone to confirm though
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I am on Verizon with a consumer version of the RAZR MAXX HD XT926. I was able to unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery just fine.
Just do a google search for Dan Rosenberg's bootloader unlock tool. I tried putting the link here but they won't let me post links just yet.
Hopefully soon there will be a fully stable AOSP kernel done. All the current 4.2.2 ROMS have issues with the camcorder not working. I'm currently running Carbon Official 4.2.2 and it runs great and is my new daily driver. Overclocked to 2ghz as well

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