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Thank you to the developers of MR3

I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.

vashts80 said:
I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.
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I second this thread.
A major thanks goes out to all of you who develop, in any way, for the Thunderbolt community. This even includes testers.
To answer your questions...
The video and front camera are broken even with an aftermarket app and will remain broken, most likely, until Verizon releases the OTA. From the OTA, our awesome developers will then be able to fix camera issues and many other issues that will make their ROM's 100% stable.
Also, if you get random reboots, you may want to flash to a different radio.
If you are currently running the OTA radios from the 2.11.605.19 software and still get these reboots, try flashing the combo radio and hopefully the reboots will vanish or, at least, happen less often.
If you go to your settings, about phone, software information, more, and look at the baseband version...
If the numbers you see are:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then you are on the OTA 2.11.605.19 radios, which is my recommendation for the radios to use with this ROM. If these are the radio numbers you see, try the combo radio. If the numbers you see under your phones baseband version is not:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then it may be:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
If it is:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
Try flashing the 2.11.605.19 OTA radios found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605557
If you have the 2.11.605.19 radios, though, try flashing the combo radio found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1864157
If you aren't sure how to flash a radio, here's a video tutorial for you to follow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu-KLjHGGhc&sns=em
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Definitely want to ditto this thread. Thanks for continuing to support the Thunderbolt. I was on the verge of retiring the Thunderbolt. ICS has brought new the Tbolt new life though!

thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?

Ditto to all that has been said. Thank You to all who made this happen, including HTC and Verizon. Their inaction drove me to decide to root and find alternatives. I've been incredibly pleased with MR3.
Thanks all!
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vashts80 said:
thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?
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If you backup that ROM after flashing the radio, it will back up the ROM. Hboot is a whole different thing than the recovery. That radio is downloaded to the phone and will automatically run on any ROM after its downloaded, even if you start from scratch. But flashing any of those two radios will not brick you on any ROM. Worst case being you won't have signal or data until you flash different radios again.
Say if you upgraded to the newer radios, and then you flash a ROM based on an older software version, you won't brick. In fact, you may not ever experience any issues. Maybe just signal changes or random signal drops.
But no, it won't brick you. It's almost impossible to brick a Thunderbolt.
I recommend after flashing the new radios, immediately go and either change the name from PG05IMG to something custom, move into a different folder that's off of the root of the SD card, or just delete it once flashed.
This is for in a such case where you need to get back into recovery from hboot, it won't prompt you to install the radio again. Because if you had to get into recovery from hboot, it wouldn't allow you to since it runs a check for the PG05IMG files first... and with that being said... I was always told to never flash the same radio twice without changing to a new one first.
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i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.

moonlightcheese said:
i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.
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Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....

trter10 said:
Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....
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whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?

moonlightcheese said:
whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?
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Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
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RBarnett09 said:
Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
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well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
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moonlightcheese said:
well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
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ah i see what happened now.
the first time i flashed it, i cleared /data after the flash before i brought the OS up, but you've included the launcher as a user app and not a system app. was this intentional? a user could easily screw up by uninstalling the launcher and have no way to interact with the OS. shouldn't there be a default launcher embedded in the system programs?
i'm an Android dev, but my understanding of system development is limited, but if i'm not mistaken, any Android ROM should come with a default launcher that is not uninstallable and has no icon as a backup launcher just in case.

He did install it that way so if the user wants to install their own launcher and remove the default. Its simple to make the new one a system app. All that has to be done is move the apk to /system and it is uninstallable.
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[Q] HTC Sensation random reboot & battery drain

Hey,
I had this problem now for very long time (actually more than 1year) and I tried all the solutions that were proposed in other threads specially this one that reduced the number of reboot but not totally
What I remarked is that when the phone is on the edge of the cell on 3G and trying to move to 2G it will automatically reset especially when the battery is below 50%.
I tried locking the phone on 3G and the number of reset has reduced but the downside of this is that I don't have most of the time connectivity (all the way in the metro for example).
Does anybody know if there is custom ROM or Kernel or Radio (I don't which part do control this) that deal with this issue?
I was running ARHD 6.7(and previous versions) with recommended radio till this morning and now I'm on CM9.
I changed the battery to Anker 1700 so the issue is not coming from the battery.
My phone was bought from French Operator Bytel (SN : SH169V..... if it helps)
Sorry for this long Message

Have you tried get Ril? It's an application in the play store that's a great app. It will let you know if your ril is matching your radio, and if it is not matching it recommends and downloads a matching ril. This really helped me a lot. I was getting a pretty weak signal and found out my ril was not matching my radio. Once I downloaded the matching ril, my signal went from one bar to four and five bars! I was pretty amazed on what a difference it made for me. It wouldn't hurt to give it a try and see if it helps you. If not you can also change your radio and ril yourself and see if you can come up with a better signal. Thing with radio is we all live in different areas so it must be experimented with by you because what works for me might not work in your area. You would start by looking in the generic ics radios and matching rils. Remember your radio now so you can return to it if need be. But before I'd change my whole radio do try Get ril. Hopefully it will make a positive difference for you! Also I believe you must be s off to change radio. Don't know if your s on, or off? But give get ril a try and see how that goes. Best wishes. Hope this was helpful.
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realsis said:
Have you tried get Ril? It's an application in the play store that's a great app. It will let you know if your ril is matching your radio, and if it is not matching it recommends and downloads a matching ril. This really helped me a lot. I was getting a pretty weak signal and found out my ril was not matching my radio. Once I downloaded the matching ril, my signal went from one bar to four and five bars! I was pretty amazed on what a difference it made for me. It wouldn't hurt to give it a try and see if it helps you. If not you can also change your radio and ril yourself and see if you can come up with a better signal. Thing with radio is we all live in different areas so it must be experimented with by you because what works for me might not work in your area. You would start by looking in the generic ics radios and matching rils. Remember your radio now so you can return to it if need be. But before I'd change my whole radio do try Get ril. Hopefully it will make a positive difference for you! Also I believe you must be s off to change radio. Don't know if your s on, or off? But give get ril a try and see how that goes. Best wishes. Hope this was helpful.
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I tried the App GetRIL and it says RIL/baseband is matching (RIL 4.0.0013HMQ, 11.69.3504.00P_11.22.3504...)
Thanks anyway :good:.
I'm just wondering if it's not a HW or firmware defect on the serie of my phone (no limitation on the power usage during IRAT HO).
BTW I didnt get a reboot with CM9 till now but I'm in well covered area, I will see if it crashes again when i'm on the edge of the cell.

Had exactly the same thing last week, purchased a new battery and now the problem has gone away
Looking at the old battery you could see it was swollen
I picked up a battery new for £5 off ebay

I have already changed the battery and the issue is still happening. Anyway with the new ROM it looks stable so far.
I will test it for some days and see if it will happen again

CM Definitely solved the issue
walo1 said:
I have already changed the battery and the issue is still happening. Anyway with the new ROM it looks stable so far.
I will test it for some days and see if it will happen again
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It looks like it's something related to Sense based ROM. with CM it's not happening anymore

Hi walo1,
Which version of CM are you using?
I've installed CM9 on my Sensation some months ago and it worked for a while. But now I'm getting random reboots again...

djorak said:
Hi walo1,
Which version of CM are you using?
I've installed CM9 on my Sensation some months ago and it worked for a while. But now I'm getting random reboots again...
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Hi,
I was using CM9 Opensensation ROM XDA Page and I never got any random reset
Three days ago I flashed CM10 Opensensation2 and I started getting Random reset again
I have no idea what can be the cause but at least with CM9 I didn't see any reset after 1 week usage. I have to go back to CM9.
Rgds

Yes I tried open sensation myself and although I didn't get rebooting, I had NO data connection!! Have you tried some of the other jelly bean roms? I really like paranoid Android by Dragun. It's fast and smooth like butter with tons of available customization! I have had zero problems with this rom. I'm using version 17. With kernel 3.0.53, and my battery life is excellent! You might want to give it a try? Best wishes to you.
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realsis said:
Yes I tried open sensation myself and although I didn't get rebooting, I had NO data connection!! Have you tried some of the other jelly bean roms? I really like paranoid Android by Dragun. It's fast and smooth like butter with tons of available customization! I have had zero problems with this rom. I'm using version 17. With kernel 3.0.53, and my battery life is excellent! You might want to give it a try? Best wishes to you.
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It looks good, I will give it a try next weekend
Thanks

I think I'll try Paranoid Android too then. And that way I'll try JB too.

It's radio Issue
Finally I found what the problem is coming from
Changing the radio to the latest European version two month ago made the phone much more stable with using various versions of CM10.
The version I'm using now is : 11.76A.3504.00_11.24A.3504.31_M with the RIL provided by default in the rom(it shouldn't be impacting)
Hope this will also solve your problem.

[Q] Flashable Modems ?

Hey there
I've been trying around with TW and AOSP ROMs and experienced some sort of problem.
Since the AOSP ROMs definitely have a better charging time I'm willing to stick to them.
But with the current PAC ROM I have very poor signal. Whereas the TW ROM gives an excellent signal strength.
My idea was it to flash a modem from a touchwiz ROM to the PAC ROM.
Possible? Insane?
Are there any flashable modems?
Or how could I solve my problem?
Cheers

Very rarely does Samsung update the modems in our devices (it's an Intel USB-connected external modem), and the one I have in my device (running the latest stock FW of XXCMI2) goes all the way back to XXCLL1 (i.e., dates from last year):
Code:
6f5bfdff604401a05cf5f73e3edb4f2e ./N8000XXCMG2_N8000RBTCMG2_1287589_REV00/modem.bin
6f5bfdff604401a05cf5f73e3edb4f2e ./N8000XXCMF1_N8000OXXCMF1_N8000XXCLL1_HOME/modem.bin
6f5bfdff604401a05cf5f73e3edb4f2e ./N8000XXCMI2_N8000OXACMI2_1388206_REV00/modem.bin
That being said, I'll bet that any signal-strength differences you're seeing are only cosmetic (i.e., how the bars are calibrated). To prove this, go into "Settings->About Device->Status" in both ROMs while in the same spot and I'll almost guarantee the -dBm values are within 2-3 points of one another.

You gotta be right, because after another flash of the PAC ROM the signal issue seems to be gone. Weird tough :-$
But nonetheless I appreciate your help!
Must have been some weird internal file management issue...
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Stock vs SourcE vs Maximus

Looking for a stable daily driver for my friend whom I am giving my phone to, now that I have a nexus 5 almost here.
She needs something stable. This phone has ran Cyanogen for a while and I just wouldnt feel comfortable giving it to her with the finicky data, odd call problems from time to time, etc.
So, in terms of stability over features, which would you recommend?

SourcE is maximus with some tweaks. Nothing very special, so the stability isn't really modified. But you have some interesting tweaks in SourcE: better quality pictures, better sound, gif recording, etc.
So I think you can give to your friend your One S with SourcE 2
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Maximus.
The "better picture quality" and "gif recording" can be flashed using pirlano and TheEndHK's camera mod. Better sound quality produced by V4A is also downloadable. The only thing i wanted more from maximus are tweaks, though we can use xposed framework and sense 5 toolbox module.
But you can never go wrong with both source and maximus since both of them uses the same updated firmware..

Atok_fr said:
SourcE is maximus with some tweaks. Nothing very special, so the stability isn't really modified. But you have some interesting tweaks in SourcE: better quality pictures, better sound, gif recording, etc.
So I think you can give to your friend your One S with SourcE 2
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Being as I have never used Maximus or SourcE, how does it compare to stock? Same issues with screen on lag as other 3.4 roms? Signal stability compared to stock?
I am in the US

phin586 said:
Being as I have never used Maximus or SourcE, how does it compare to stock? Same issues with screen on lag as other 3.4 roms? Signal stability compared to stock?
I am in the US
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It is comparable to stock, not the 3.4 roms. Meaning, no lag and signal is good.
I do find it irritating that with the new firmware you need to use the modified twrp which will cannot mount usb storage. Also the backup feature can put your backups in the wrong directory. So you have to move them for them to show up.
So for me, it is just the recovery that I don't like.

tivofool said:
It is comparable to stock, not the 3.4 roms. Meaning, no lag and signal is good.
I do find it irritating that with the new firmware you need to use the modified twrp which will cannot mount usb storage. Also the backup feature can put your backups in the wrong directory. So you have to move them for them to show up.
So for me, it is just the recovery that I don't like.
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Cool, thanks for the info. I will definitely give it a try for a few weeks and see if she likes it. I can always revert to stock.

phin586 said:
Cool, thanks for the info. I will definitely give it a try for a few weeks and see if she likes it. I can always revert to stock.
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If you like aosp, CM 10 is very stable, and particularly light ... which makes it quite responsive and quick. If she would prefer sense, then stock 4.1 will be absolutely trouble free. I use rom cleaner to strip out all the bloat, which makes the stock rom fly. In my experience, most women want stability over anything else ... they just want things to work.

wmdunn said:
If you like aosp, CM 10 is very stable, and particularly light ... which makes it quite responsive and quick. If she would prefer sense, then stock 4.1 will be absolutely trouble free. I use rom cleaner to strip out all the bloat, which makes the stock rom fly. In my experience, most women want stability over anything else ... they just want things to work.
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As stated in my first post, CM has not been very stable. Connection issues, each update always brings a new issue. I run CM as it is..

phin586 said:
As stated in my first post, CM has not been very stable. Connection issues, each update always brings a new issue. I run CM as it is..
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I wasn't talking about the current CM 10.2 updates (Android 4.3) ... CM 10 (Android 4.1.2) is absolutely stable, and it still has most of the functionality of the latest and greatest.

wmdunn said:
I wasn't talking about the current CM updates (Android 4.3) ... CM 10 (Android 4.1.2) is absolutely stable, and it still has most of the functionality of the latest and greatest.
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Fair enough. I think she would enjoy the features of the Sense camera and the added apps. Shes a android noob.

phin586 said:
Fair enough. I think she would enjoy the features of the Sense camera and the added apps. Shes a android noob.
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Then stock 4.1 will be the most stable of all ... it's what my wife runs on her T-Mobile One S.

wmdunn said:
Then stock 4.1 will be the most stable of all ... it's what my wife runs on her T-Mobile One S.
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Gotcha. Someone stated that Maximus and SourcE are comparable in stability. Wondering what issues are apparent, compared to stock. I wish Dev's would dedicated a 1st or 2nd post to list of known issues. :-\

phin586 said:
Gotcha. Someone stated that Maximus and SourcE are comparable in stability. Wondering what issues are apparent, compared to stock. I wish Dev's would dedicated a 1st or 2nd post to list of known issues. :-\
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Some have had pretty good success with Maximus, and for the most part stable. Others have had some glitches along the way, and they simply won't be as stable as the Stock RUU. My One S has been rooted and s-off since day one ... and I have tried all the major custom roms. It doesn't bother me when something goes wrong, because I know how to fix it. My wife, however, really gets upset when glitches occur on her phone, so we keep it simple, stable ... everything just works. I might add that the T-Mobile Stock RUU is no slouch ... it runs very well.

wmdunn said:
Some have had pretty good success with Maximus, and for the most part stable. Others have had some glitches along the way, and they simply won't be as stable as the Stock RUU. My One S has been rooted and s-off since day one ... and I have tried all the major custom roms. It doesn't bother me when something goes wrong, because I know how to fix it. My wife, however, really gets upset when glitches occur on her phone, so we keep it simple, stable ... everything just works. I might add that the T-Mobile Stock RUU is no slouch ... it runs very well.
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Ya I am thinking that is going to be the way. Who knows, maybe we will get luck with KITKAT. =S

phin586 said:
Ya I am thinking that is going to be the way. Who knows, maybe we will get luck with KITKAT. =S
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That would be wonderful if it were to happen, but unfortunately HTC has turned it's back on the One S. There will most likely be some custom 4.4 roms, but once again it will be difficult to make them completely stable. I am seriously thinking about moving on to the Moto X, and giving my One S a well deserved rest ... it's been a great phone!

wmdunn said:
That would be wonderful if it were to happen, but unfortunately HTC has turned it's back on the One S. There will most likely be some custom 4.4 roms, but once again it will be difficult to make them completely stable. I am seriously thinking about moving on to the Moto X, and giving my One S a well deserved rest ... it's been a great phone!
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I am picking up a N5, just waiting for it to be delivered.
After this last foray with HTC, I do not see myself leaving the Nexus ecosphere, in well... ever...

phin586 said:
I am picking up a N5, just waiting for it to be delivered.
After this last foray with HTC, I do not see myself leaving the Nexus ecosphere, in well... ever...
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Good choice ... looks like a great phone. Before my One S, I carried a Nexus device. I really prefer stock Android. I considered the Nexus 5, but it just doesn't fit my hands ... hence the Moto X. Anyway ... have fun with your new phone!

phin586 said:
Gotcha. Someone stated that Maximus and SourcE are comparable in stability. Wondering what issues are apparent, compared to stock. I wish Dev's would dedicated a 1st or 2nd post to list of known issues. :-\
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Maximus is completely a stock HTC One S 4.2.2 RUU but just you've to install it via manual RUU installation method so it is a bit trouble. SourcE is based on Maximus with little necessary and very important tweaks, they are pretty much the same, I'll strongly prefer SourcE.
You have to install this "Maximus/SourcE RUU" via command prompt and there are just too many noobs around and some probably need to go for English lessons because they fail to read the procedure every time so they never flash it successfully. But remember your One S has to be a S-OFF device to do that.
To the stability problem, there are radio bugs in Maximus/SourcE but that is HTC fault, nothing wrong to the rom developers. This is a case to case by bias, personally I don't have any problem at all. You have to try it out because we don't know if the radio compatible to your carrier network or not.
1. Some got very poor in-call volume
2. Some got mobile data slow problem
3. Some got mobile signal weak problem
Basically, that's all the problem listed but I don't meet any single one. The radio 1.20 in Maximus/SourcE does working with my Hong Kong carrier network quite well. You can flash older radio like 1.1x to fix all above problem but it will create a random data disconnection bug.

TheEndHK said:
Maximus is completely a stock HTC One S 4.2.2 RUU but just you've to install it via manual RUU installation method so it is a bit trouble. SourcE is based on Maximus with little necessary and very important tweaks, they are pretty much the same, I'll strongly prefer SourcE.
You have to install this "Maximus/SourcE RUU" via command prompt and there are just too many noobs around and some probably need to go for English lessons because they fail to read the procedure every time so they never flash it successfully. But remember your One S has to be a S-OFF device to do that.
To the stability problem, there are radio bugs in Maximus/SourcE but that is HTC fault, nothing wrong to the rom developers. This is a case to case by bias, personally I don't have any problem at all. You have to try it out because we don't know if the radio compatible to your carrier network or not.
1. Some got very poor in-call volume
2. Some got mobile data slow problem
3. Some got mobile signal weak problem
Basically, that's all the problem listed but I don't meet any single one. The radio 1.20 in Maximus/SourcE does working with my Hong Kong carrier network quite well. You can flash older radio like 1.1x to fix all above problem but it will create a random data disconnection bug.
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Appreciate you going into all the detail, but these issues are exactly what many people are trying to avoid with their One S. That is why we were talking about what our better halves were not willing to tolerate.

Same as @TheEndHK, i don't have those issues as well, in fact the in call audio volume on mine is much louder than when i was on viper. The 1.20 radio brought me much stronger wifi signal and stability on mobile data, though some places i have full network coverage became weaker but not that much. Not all of us experienced those issues, and you won't know that if you will or will not experience it either if you haven't tried it yourself. :thumbup:

Cyanogenmod 13 or Cataclysm

Hi all,
Ever since CM has been available for my devices, I have been using CM. Tried many other roms, but never really anything that I felt so comfortable with as CM.
Now that CM13 CAF has stopped development ( @myfluxi, you magnificent bastard! You created a great ROM!) I will probably stay on this one for a while but at a certain point move on.
So I started to look into Cataclysm a bit. Any ex-CM users here that went to Cataclysm and never looked back? Or the other way around?
Why exactly?
Please keep it civil, no fanboys or flamewars.

Why don't you try Cataclysm then make your own decision.

trsix said:
Why don't you try Cataclysm then make your own decision.
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Because of my banking application, every time I try a new ROM (thus factory reset), I have to go back to my bank outside of my office hours, wait in line for forever and have the app reactivated.
So am I a bit reluctant to just switch to see if I like it. Was hoping for some replies from people that switched from one to the other and never went back.

c20h25n3o said:
Because of my banking application, every time I try a new ROM (thus factory reset), I have to go back to my bank outside of my office hours, wait in line for forever and have the app reactivated.
So am I a bit reluctant to just switch to see if I like it. Was hoping for some replies from people that switched from one to the other and never went back.
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i rarely had any issues with Cataclysm. Very stable and smooth rom indeed. Dosent have theme engine though. I Also have been using Chroma and its been great for me. Many CM features inside it. I read somewher that CAFHammerhead will be still going. A different maintainer has stepped up

marcusva79 said:
I read somewher that CAFHammerhead will be still going. A different maintainer has stepped up
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can you tell me more?
In the CAF forum this information would be highly appreciated - including me!

arrgh
Maybe make a new thread for every rom available asking for comparisons between CM and each:good: particular rom.

theodorius123 said:
can you tell me more?
In the CAF forum this information would be highly appreciated - including me!
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/41qrwr/hammerheadcaf_version_of_cyanogenmod_13_has_come/
Hope this helps a bit. Says it has been merged and this was a day ago.

trsix said:
Maybe make a new thread for every rom available asking for comparisons between CM and each:good: particular rom.
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Yes, but I'm not interested in other roms other than giving Cataclysm a try. So I'll leave that up to others.
Anything else to add to the topic, or just here to live up to your signature?

I would go for Cataclysm over CM13 as Cataclysm feels more stable & smooth compared to CM13.
CM13 sometimes feels unstable as it is in nightly stage.
Surely the opinion might change when CM13 Stable will be available.
Don't get me wrong.
But CM has its own advantages.

I personally dislike CM because the performance has been worse thay it used to be, and idk why. I would prefer Cataclysm over CM and Chroma over Cataclysm, because the performance in Chroma is just great! I also use the elementalx kernel and limit my cpu to 2.0 ghz for battery. So Cataclysm is much more stable than CM, as CM has alot of problems with systemui right now, and with Cataclysm, you wont have an annoying 'Edit Tiles' button in your quick settings.

c20h25n3o said:
Because of my banking application, every time I try a new ROM (thus factory reset), I have to go back to my bank outside of my office hours, wait in line for forever and have the app reactivated.
So am I a bit reluctant to just switch to see if I like it. Was hoping for some replies from people that switched from one to the other and never went back.
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Why not use titanium backup option as I did? No problems in trying other ROMs
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PINki92 said:
Why not use titanium backup option as I did? No problems in trying other ROMs
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Tried it (went to Catcalysm and loved it!) but the backup didn't work.
It brings me to the login page, type my pin and it just doesn't respond. So for this banking app it didn't work, sadly enough

Both the same?
I'm confused!Are these same?How's the battery backup?

siddhu007 said:
I'm confused!Are these same?How's the battery backup?
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Battery life for me went from barely being able to get through a working day on CM13 to getting home with 40 or sometimes even 50%+ battery on Cataclysm with EX kernel.
So battery was a huge improvement for me, which is what I needed.

Why is cataclysm thread closed? Did I miss something?

Thread is closed at the request of the dev/OP, atl4ntis.

But why without warning? I like catalysm mod and all it extra settings. I hope someone make same mod in the future, when new android version come out.