Latest Update 5/6/2014 - Shield Q&A

Couple notes:
- Root didn't survive the update. SuperSU's survival mode failed. I did not have to roll back root to update though.
- Powered by Android appears on the start up.
- Gamestreaming connectivity was lost; you'll have to reauthenticate to your PC.
Anyone find anything else "unlisted"?

Shield RAM's ROOT method appears to work fine with this update.
KitKat SD card fix has to be reapplied.

I was hoping this would fix the emulator slowdowns, but has not. The CPU fix impacts battery life and would rather the device work as intended without doing a "fix". Exception being the sd card fix, since that is a Must.

rushless said:
I was hoping this would fix the emulator slowdowns, but has not. The CPU fix impacts battery life and would rather the device work as intended without doing a "fix". Exception being the sd card fix, since that is a Must.
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what Emulator slowdowns do you mean?

darkuni said:
Shield RAM's ROOT method appears to work fine with this update.
KitKat SD card fix has to be reapplied.
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I am new to the SHIELD community, could you please link me to the fix and maybe explain in a few words what this fix fixes? Thanks

Martin-Doc said:
I am new to the SHIELD community, could you please link me to the fix and maybe explain in a few words what this fix fixes? Thanks
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
Essentially, KitKat prevents apps from WRITING to the SD card unless the app is the one that created the folder to begin with.
So let's say you have:
\sdcard\roms\n64
... on your SD card where you keep all your Nintendo 64 roms (insert standard piracy disclaimer here).
Your N64 emulator can no longer WRITE to that folder. Why does this bite? Well most emulators use the rom folder to unpack ZIPped roms, store save states, configuration per game - that sort of thing. Suddenly, after installing KitKat - these emulators start acting weird or outright crashing because they can't write where they used to be able to.
You could have a folder of .DOC files in
\sdcard\docs\
Your Polaris Office could open the files there, but if you edit them, you can't save them back.
You can extrapolate this to just about every app.
The KitKat fix linked above will make it work the way it used to work - so you don't have to change, update, or alter anything.
It does require ROOT access of course.

nex86 said:
what Emulator slowdowns do you mean?
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All of the Broglia emulators slow down. He says it is the Nvidia update, but all I know is they play better than Retroarch and the other options. Better performance and options. They play great as if with 4.2.
Shield does what I need, so no harm no foul as is
Would like console mode though.

oh you mean like snes9xEX?
I will try that one out later.

nex86 said:
oh you mean like snes9xEX?
I will try that one out later.
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yeah snes9x is one of the best emulators out for SNES imo.

I tried Snes9Xex, MD,emu and GBA.emu and have no slowdown at all, works perfect for me.
I do notice some slight skipping though when camera scrolls in game, but maybe that's just me..

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Me playing FF7 on the Galaxy S

Check it out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNCnnHnoQfU
PSX4Droid
Wonderful!
Add a list of games that you would recommend downloading!
Thanks
Awesome!
Looks like it could use a small frame rate increase, but its still awesome.
Is there an option to hide the on screen controls for people that want to use a mini bluetooth keyboard or something like that?
Berserk87 said:
Awesome!
Looks like it could use a small frame rate increase, but its still awesome.
Is there an option to hide the on screen controls for people that want to use a mini bluetooth keyboard or something like that?
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Agree, looks a little jerky. Maybe newer versions will be optimized to run better on Galaxy S hardware.
I have a feeling its using CPU and very little GFX card. Maybe with the next version we will get some GFX support. I have not tried but I heard you can hide the controls and use a Wii mote with it.
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I have a feeling its using CPU and very little GFX card. Maybe with the next version we will get some GFX support. I have not tried but I heard you can hide the controls and use a Wii mote with it.
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wont be compatible on the Galaxy S phones because the developer said that it currently does not work with BT 3.0 devices
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNCnnHnoQfU
PSX4Droid
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How did you get it to work? I have the .bin and .cue file in a folder but I just get a blank screen. I tried renaming to .img but no luck.
FF Tactics works just fine. It's the only other game I have to test.
I've tried a ton of games, that are eboot files and they all work fine. most of them have no lag, and if they do its minor. but some games like resident evil have a lack of controls due to no r2 and l2 buttons.
Maverick777 said:
How did you get it to work? I have the .bin and .cue file in a folder but I just get a blank screen. I tried renaming to .img but no luck.
FF Tactics works just fine. It's the only other game I have to test.
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yellowgto, can you post a quick guide on how to set up the psx4droid app? i have the bios but i can't seem to find it on the app. thanks!
p.s. i don't have a sd card installed, do i need one?
arsinic said:
yellowgto, can you post a quick guide on how to set up the psx4droid app? i have the bios but i can't seem to find it on the app. thanks!
p.s. i don't have a sd card installed, do i need one?
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where is the bios then? I downloaded it from megaupload to the internal SD so it was in /sdcard/downloads but if you transferred over wire it would be wherever you put it.
Once on disc just click the bios button in the app and nav to it. When I went back into the emulator it asked for rom location and it started playing FF VII.
when i play FF7 my audio lags quite a bit. i cant seem to get it as smooth as all the videos i see on youtube of people playing on their galaxy s phones. i always make sure i kill all the programs running in the background before i play a game too.
What BIOs are you using and Livebackground maybe? I use 1001
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where is the bios then? I downloaded it from megaupload to the internal SD so it was in /sdcard/downloads but if you transferred over wire it would be wherever you put it.
Once on disc just click the bios button in the app and nav to it. When I went back into the emulator it asked for rom location and it started playing FF VII.
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sorry, i made a folder under sdcard/psx/bios and i couldn't get to my internal memory with the usb cable attached. a couple hours later i played with the app again and is saw that i could see the root of my memory and set up the psx bios that way. weird how i couldn't get to the bio folder with the usb attached. thanks for responding.
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What BIOs are you using and Livebackground maybe? I use 1001
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im using 1001 and i dont have a live background. i also make sure that my cpu is clocked at 1 ghz through setcpu. ill see if converting the ROM to a pbp file makes any difference.
arsinic said:
sorry, i made a folder under sdcard/psx/bios and i couldn't get to my internal memory with the usb cable attached. a couple hours later i played with the app again and is saw that i could see the root of my memory and set up the psx bios that way. weird how i couldn't get to the bio folder with the usb attached. thanks for responding.
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well thats because the usb was attached, pull down the notification panel and unmount it so you can see the internal SD card on your phone.

Moving Gameloft Game data to External SD

If you have more than one Gameloft game (which is easy when they are buy one get one at $2.99), you've probably run into the problem of not having enough space on your tiny 8GB internal SD. I personally have been fighting with ~200mbs free for the past few weeks and its been annoying me, so I decided I wanted to "fix" the problem, at least till Gameloft gets together and adds an option of where to download the app data.
My first idea was some sort of syslink or bind mount at boot between the Internal and External SD, but while I was researching this I ran into this "convertor" which modifies the apk file to install the game data to the external SD card.
Create the folder called GL on your external SD and the game data from your main folder (sdcard/gameloft/games) copy to "external SD/Gl"
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I am still looking for a better solution that doesnt require EVERY apk to be modified, so if you good w/ scripts or can think of a way similar to my original idea, please let me know.
Check it out and leave your feedback
Link for Gameloft APK Converter: http://www.mediafire.com/?0octk79867ugqn9
Mirror: http://www.multiupload.com/WXVPV9IVDE
Original Thread on O2X forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1091455
EDIT: Confirmed working on NOVA 2 and Shadow Guardian. You MUST copy all the game data to /_ExternalSD/GL/ (make sure to remove the "games" folder if it's there, all the data needs to be in the "GL" folder. Also, confirmed it only works on games purchased from Gameloft's website, not the Android market versions.
This is how your GL folder should look on your External SD if you run ls in terminal:
ls /sdcard/_ExternalSD/GL:
GloftN2HP
asphalt6
GloftBPHM
GloftSGHP
nova
May God bless the fruit of your loins with prosperity and well being from now till his return. Bless you!
works great... except with Starfront.
EDIT: looks like starfront works.. just needed wifi to verify the files
Damn, what the hell are the people who buy the Sensation going to do when they only have a measly 1GB for appdata?
having a hard time downloading that file. It isnt working for me. I need this
People w/ the sensation are screwed and r gonna need to create scripts to move stuff SD. I successfully patched all 4 of my Gameloft games and they are working fine. Just make sure you put them in the right folder (see OP). No issues downloading the one-click patcher, but I'll see if I can get another link.
Despite this working well, Id still like to figure out a way to syslink or bind mount the gameloft folders on Internal and external sd.
EDIT: Posted mirror link in OP. Enjoy!
I did this and it worked perfectly (thanks btw!!) but all my saved game data and progress is gone this is for Dungeon Hunter 2 HD
guys - im having a problem with Data but not sure if its different - any time i download the gameloft data via wifi to my 32GB SDCard - the game crashes after the gameloft logo and asks to download the data when you restart (even if the data is already there)
pettigrew95 said:
I did this and it worked perfectly (thanks btw!!) but all my saved game data and progress is gone this is for Dungeon Hunter 2 HD
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Im not really sure where the save games are stored for Gameloft games. Glad to hear it works, but please let me know if you resolve this issue.
Vylle said:
guys - im having a problem with Data but not sure if its different - any time i download the gameloft data via wifi to my 32GB SDCard - the game crashes after the gameloft logo and asks to download the data when you restart (even if the data is already there)
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I would double-check that the folders are set up properly. it is case sensitive, so be careful. I layout exactly how the folders should be arranged in the OP. Another thing u can check is have it download SOME of the game data, and go and find it. It may help you track down the issue, (like folders arrange incorrectly). Hope that helps!
i tried to launch the program but it crashes after loading.. this is so frustrating.. i feel like going back to HTC (never had this level of problems)
Vylle said:
i tried to launch the program but it crashes after loading.. this is so frustrating.. i feel like going back to HTC (never had this level of problems)
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This has nothing to do w/ the manufacturer of your phone. We are essentially "hacking" these games to trick it into using the external SD. You would have this exact same issue, on say, the newly releases HTC Sensation (if not worse because of the lack of space on the Internal SD). Also, I just want to point out that I doubt this will work on "cracked" apks for Gameloft, so those may cause crashes as well.
Im not very fond of hacking each APK to work, as it will eventually cause issues, and this would best be solved by syslinking or bind mounting the two folders between the internal and external SD card. Unfortunately, I dont have enough background knowledge to write the script from scratch, as it requires some kernel modification, and would have to be unique to each phone.
cm7 by default installs your games to the sdcard, but if you want your games to install on internal storage i have attached a config file that goes in /system/etc make sure to back up old one first, ps i dont know the site i got the infop off of and the re done config file it isnt my work im just letting people know here ill post in a second post since its on my phone and im using a computer
never mind found the website for the info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088474
i am already using it my g2x but i have the fstab file that will put your games on the external storage if anyone wants pm me
crisis187 said:
cm7 by default installs your games to the sdcard, but if you want your games to install on internal storage i have attached a config file that goes in /system/etc make sure to back up old one first, ps i dont know the site i got the infop off of and the re done config file it isnt my work im just letting people know here ill post in a second post since its on my phone and im using a computer
never mind found the website for the info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088474
i am already using it my g2x but i have the fstab file that will put your games on the external storage if anyone wants pm me
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Do you have any strange side effects from using it? Did it require any modification to the files from the other thread to be used on the G2x?
I'm using trinity kernel and it was just a matter of changing fstab so no
G2x pwned, cm7 (trinity) killer combo "density 190"
crisis187 said:
I'm using trinity kernel and it was just a matter of changing fstab so no
G2x pwned, cm7 (trinity) killer combo "density 190"
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Hmm, Ill have to give it a shot?
EDIT: This DOESNT work when using the files from the other thread, as it mentions its specifically for the i9003. Tried it and both SD cards cant be seen. It may need to be modified, as I looked at both files and they are completely different.
Its basically the reverse ill post the fstab file when I get home the 1 for external storage it wont let me attach from my phone so got to wait till I get home
G2x pwned, cm7 (trinity) killer combo "density 190"
Okay, I used the changed from the Samsung version and modified our vold.fstab to mount the partitions properly. Give the attached vold.fstab file a shot and see if it works. Seems to work for me Please post your feedback.
Backup your original vold.fstab file (its in /system/etc).
ADB push this file to /system/etc after mounting it as R/W (u can do it in terminal but I use the app Remount)
Reboot
Check SD "layout" in Settings
EDIT: Seems you cant mount either SD card as MASS storage after switching files :/. Anyone w/ experience feel like chiming in?
btate0121 said:
May God bless the fruit of your loins with prosperity and well being from now till his return. Bless you!
He said everything I was thinking I've been trying to figure this out for weeks I have 12 game loft games and been moving them back and forth now I can't wait till I get home to do this
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devious338 said:
btate0121 said:
May God bless the fruit of your loins with prosperity and well being from now till his return. Bless you!
He said everything I was thinking I've been trying to figure this out for weeks I have 12 game loft games and been moving them back and forth now I can't wait till I get home to do this
Sent from my G2seXy using XDA App
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Dont try the vold method. Use the APK Patcher in the OP and please post your results .
I have not been as successful as I originally thought, as some of the games refuse to work
Nova 2 works great, but Modern Combat 2: Black Pegasus, Asphault 6, Nova, and the Shadow (forgot the name) crash after loading the main menu.
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Works great no problems so far
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Re-installing a Gameloft Game - how to save my savegame

So I started playing Eternal Legacy and keep having an issue where the game freezes towards the end of a battle in the area by the mines. Sometimes I can get through 1 battle only to have it freeze after another. Anyone have this issue?
Gameloft sent me a link to redownload and re-install the game and said to delete the old one. But does anyone know how to save my savegame files so I don't have to start the game all over again? I searched the GloftELHD folder but didn't find any files that looked like a save game.
Most gameloft games store their saved games on memory card e.g. Asphalt 6 (profile.sav) and modern combat 2 (save.bin), and some save it in phone memory as application data (Dungeon Hunter 2)
If you can't find any save game file in Eternal Legacy folder, try saving the application data by Titanium Backup
hasaan6545 said:
Most gameloft games store their saved games on memory card e.g. Asphalt 6 (profile.sav) and modern combat 2 (save.bin), and some save it in phone memory as application data (Dungeon Hunter 2)
If you can't find any save game file in Eternal Legacy folder, try saving the application data by Titanium Backup
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Of course there is nothing in that folder even remotely called "save" so thats out. Titanium backup works without Root? My device is stock.
Rogue Leader said:
Of course there is nothing in that folder even remotely called "save" so thats out. Titanium backup works without Root? My device is stock.
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No backup currently gives back up app-data without root. You might be able to copy the data out with ADB if you can isolate what file it is, even without root.
ryocoon said:
No backup currently gives back up app-data without root. You might be able to copy the data out with ADB if you can isolate what file it is, even without root.
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Yeah copying the file out isn't a big deal I can do it through windows explorer. The problem is there is no way to identify which file it is. I would just backup the whole thing but that would defeat the purpose of re-installing the game then. I'm not even convinced re-installing the game will fix my freezing problem.
Rogue Leader said:
Yeah copying the file out isn't a big deal I can do it through windows explorer. The problem is there is no way to identify which file it is. I would just backup the whole thing but that would defeat the purpose of re-installing the game then. I'm not even convinced re-installing the game will fix my freezing problem.
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Have you tried GameLoft Support? Asking on the forum where the save-game data is for that particular game? If it is on the phone itself, gotta get it with ADB, if it is on the SD-card, then you can copy off SD-card to another spot.... If you can't find that info, then I don't know what to tell you. I have that game but haven't started it yet (got it as a freebie 2-for-1 deal). So I wouldn't mind knowing too. I honestly wish they published at least a little bit of detail on this stuff, but they are used to supporting iOS devices, where normal users can't get into this nitty-gritty stuff to poke at it.
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Have you tried GameLoft Support? Asking on the forum where the save-game data is for that particular game? If it is on the phone itself, gotta get it with ADB, if it is on the SD-card, then you can copy off SD-card to another spot.... If you can't find that info, then I don't know what to tell you. I have that game but haven't started it yet (got it as a freebie 2-for-1 deal). So I wouldn't mind knowing too. I honestly wish they published at least a little bit of detail on this stuff, but they are used to supporting iOS devices, where normal users can't get into this nitty-gritty stuff to poke at it.
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I actually have tried Gameloft Support themselves, and the guy from Gameloft basically told me he didn't know either.
I'm not sure but you can try follow steps, i think you can get back saved data after uninstalling game:
1. Plug you device with USB cable and open the "Removable disc F (or N or G,J the name could vary)" then open "Gameloft" folder.
2. You will see the "games" folder.
3. Pick up the game you need.
4. Then you will see the whole game data.
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The other games do have a savegame file, but this one nothing is marked savegame.
That said not even sure I'm gonna re-install just yet so this may all be moot, just swapped in a Sandisk Class 4 32 gb card and now everything seems to be working better.
Rogue Leader said:
I actually have tried Gameloft Support themselves, and the guy from Gameloft basically told me he didn't know either.
The other games do have a savegame file, but this one nothing is marked savegame.
That said not even sure I'm gonna re-install just yet so this may all be moot, just swapped in a Sandisk Class 4 32 gb card and now everything seems to be working better.
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Hmmm.. So may just have been a hardware glitch with read-times or such odd? One can only hope as much. It is a shame that GameLoft's support isn't better. Considering that their games (even if often buggy) are generally some of the better ones out there (even if generally ripped from other popular games on other platforms).
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Hmmm.. So may just have been a hardware glitch with read-times or such odd? One can only hope as much. It is a shame that GameLoft's support isn't better. Considering that their games (even if often buggy) are generally some of the better ones out there (even if generally ripped from other popular games on other platforms).
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I think it may be, I played for about an hour last night and no problems (plus the class 4 Sandisk runs WAY smoother than the 16gb Class 2 card I had). I almost laughed when I got that email, it seems like such a simple question but the fact he straight out told me "I don't know", I've never gotten something like that from tech support before. Another thing I did was reduce my max text messages per thread to 50 and delete a lot of old stuff (probably about 1000+ texts), that has helped with the phone's sluggishness, and I would bet helped the game as well. I would assume Android prioritizes that task and so it can affect other apps.
I've found that their games are a mixed bag. Eternal Legacy is stunning, graphics are unbelievable for a phone, everything works well, but then I get these freeze ups, and worse if you pause the game to answer a call or check an email/text message, it shuts down! MC2 is really stunning as well, but 50% of the time if you go into the control menu the game force closes, and we have had 1000 threads on the targeting with the right stick. Assassins Creed has decent graphics, great controls and play style, but TONS of graphical glitches, and a pretty cheesy story that completely ignores a huge plot point of the Assassins Creed games aside from a passing reference to animus and memories in the menus.
help me about this too?
that's help me too and work thank you for all ^_^

[Q] What makes the tablet slow?

After I do a fresh install of cromi on my tablet, it's just excellent, fluid and smooth. After a while, the performance seems to detoriate. It has done so for about every version I tried and the same goes for my phone (An i9300 running slimkat). So my question is this: What makes an android device inherently slower? Is there a way to see what apps may slow down the performance?
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After I do a fresh install of cromi on my tablet, it's just excellent, fluid and smooth. After a while, the performance seems to detoriate. It has done so for about every version I tried and the same goes for my phone (An i9300 running slimkat). So my question is this: What makes an android device inherently slower? Is there a way to see what apps may slow down the performance?
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That is a very good question...:good: I have the same question but I can not find a solid answer for it. I hope that some developers or experts can give us a good definition of it...
This is what I know but I may be totally off and wrong, haha..
When you first install the new ROM, all your partitions are new and clean. When you write something to your data partition, it is most of the case, it just writes data to a clean blocks without erasing the blocks. After a while, most of your blocks are dirty even though they are unused or available for writing. This is the part that users see the degradation. When a new data is writing to the available and dirty blocks, first the kernel has to erase the block before writing to it. The erase process takes a lot longer than the write process according to my research...:crying: On our tf700, writing to the internal sd or mmc is very slow already. On top of that, the erasing process has to be done before writing the new data to your internal sd. If you do the math, the performance of the writing will degrade more than twice comparing the new installation..:crying: I believe that google noticed this issue so they implemented the fsTRIM on the newer kernel source to tackle this problem..:good:
However, when you are using the fsTRIM, you have to sacrifice some slightly performance loss and you don't notice performance degradation over time.. During the normal usage, I can not tell the differences if the fsTRIM is on or off but I did see the small performance loss with a bench test.. In short, I know both _that and hund's kernel support the fsTRIM but it is disable as a default. You can try to enable it to see if it is solving your degraded problem....Good luck...:fingers-crossed:
Another method is to use the lagfix manually once a week or more frequently...
Usually I reboot to recovery, wipe cache (don't need to do dalvik), reboot back to ROM and everything is quick again.
I don't know why this works though.
sbdags said:
Usually I reboot to recovery, wipe cache (don't need to do dalvik), reboot back to ROM and everything is quick again.
I don't know why this works though.
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Thanks sbdags for the information...
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This is what I know but I may be totally off and wrong, haha..
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Mostly correct.
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When a new data is writing to the available and dirty blocks, first the kernel has to erase the block before writing to it.
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It's the controller in the eMMC that does that. The peculiarities of flash memory - no way to directly overwrite data, need to erase in large blocks before writing, can't write to the same location too often or it wears out - are all hidden by a small (and not very smart, in our case) controller. The kernel sees a block device that it can use like a mechanical hard drive.
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Another method is to use the lagfix manually once a week or more frequently...
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This depends how much data is written and how much space is free. If you have 10 GB free and you run lagfix once, you won't benefit from running it again until after 10 GB have been written to flash. Random writes cost more than their real size (see above, overwrites must be simulated by rewriting larger blocks), sequential writes translate to about their actual size written to flash.
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Mostly correct.
It's the controller in the eMMC that does that. The peculiarities of flash memory - no way to directly overwrite data, need to erase in large blocks before writing, can't write to the same location too often or it wears out - are all hidden by a small (and not very smart, in our case) controller. The kernel sees a block device that it can use like a mechanical hard drive.
This depends how much data is written and how much space is free. If you have 10 GB free and you run lagfix once, you won't benefit from running it again until after 10 GB have been written to flash. Random writes cost more than their real size (see above, overwrites must be simulated by rewriting larger blocks), sequential writes translate to about their actual size written to flash.
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Thanks _that for sharing the information and time...:good:
I take the mostly correct and hate the least incorrect....:crying: Every time I talk to you. It seems like there is a language barrier. Oh yeah, it is called an Android language, hehe... I will loose a few days researching and trying to understand what you are saying...:silly: However, I feel like that I understand android a bit more in the end and thanks for that....
Now it is time for me to bang my head on the keyboard for the next few days...:crying:
Thanks for the insightful information guys, you are frickin awesome! . I thought the lagfix app was removed from CROMI, since the trim function was no longer needed after 4.2. I might be wrong about this, but in any case I have LagFix premium which can trim partitions on a schedule, and I take it that it doesn't do any harm at least?
vonVaffel said:
Thanks for the insightful information guys, you are frickin awesome! . I thought the lagfix app was removed from CROMI, since the trim function was no longer needed after 4.2. I might be wrong about this, but in any case I have LagFix premium which can trim partitions on a schedule, and I take it that it doesn't do any harm at least?
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I personally like the "discard" mounting option on Cromi x.. It is just my personal preference...:laugh: I don't recall that the lagfix was a problem for me but I heard some issued stories about it but could not remember now, sorry...
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Thanks for the insightful information guys, you are frickin awesome! . I thought the lagfix app was removed from CROMI, since the trim function was no longer needed after 4.2. I might be wrong about this, but in any case I have LagFix premium which can trim partitions on a schedule, and I take it that it doesn't do any harm at least?
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CROMI is based off ASUS' stock firmware, hence it is still Android 4.2.1 (and will likely stay that way forever since ASUS does not update the tf700 anymore). As TRIM is only available in Android 4.3 onward, Lagfix is still a relevant. As far as I know, some people reported data corruption from using Lagfix, but I personally haven't had any issue. Your mileage may vary though.
As for performance degradation, I am also quite interested in knowing why. One of the key strength of Linux over Windows is that Linux does not have this performance degradation over time and most Linux users will happily attest to this statement. Apparently, Google has somehow removed that strength when they made Android. Many people who choose iOS over Android will also cite this performance degradation as a factor since iOS does not suffer from this problem as well, if at all. At this point, I am just going to blame Dalvik VM for all this inefficiency. If you look at Windows Phone 8 (made by the same company that brought you Windows) and iOS, both run native machine code instead of a virtual machine and they don't have any drop in performance over time. Practically, a HTC HD7 with WP7 can still compete with current Android handsets in terms of UI smoothness and exhibit no stuttering nonewhatsoever, except when you started using intensive apps, but that is definitely a hardware limitation.
huy_lonewolf said:
As TRIM is only available in Android 4.3 onward, Lagfix is still a relevant.
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"Trim" is a kernel feature and is activated by using the ext4 mount option "discard", which has been in the kernel since 2010.
Expanding a bit on the issue at hand, I'm curious about two types of apps:
First one is twilight. It's much like the f.lux or redshift program for PCs making the screen red at nighttime, so that falling asleep is supposedly easier. Now I enjoy using this on any type of screen I'm in front of after dark, but the downside to this is that it makes both my tablet and phone really laggy. My phone (i9300) isn't as affected by the performance as the tf700 is, but I wonder why this sort of app slows the device down?
Second app is SwiftKey. I love this keyboard app for its functionality and its predictions. However not being a native English speaker, I also write a lot of Norwegian so I have two word lists installed. My issue is that the keyboard seems slow and sluggish in its response, and sometimes it takes forever to actually write something down. Is this related to using two dictionares instead of one? I really love this app and would like to keep on using it, as no other keyboard seems as good to me.
vonVaffel said:
Expanding a bit on the issue at hand, I'm curious about two types of apps:
First one is twilight. It's much like the f.lux or redshift program for PCs making the screen red at nighttime, so that falling asleep is supposedly easier. Now I enjoy using this on any type of screen I'm in front of after dark, but the downside to this is that it makes both my tablet and phone really laggy. My phone (i9300) isn't as affected by the performance as the tf700 is, but I wonder why this sort of app slows the device down?
Second app is SwiftKey. I love this keyboard app for its functionality and its predictions. However not being a native English speaker, I also write a lot of Norwegian so I have two word lists installed. My issue is that the keyboard seems slow and sluggish in its response, and sometimes it takes forever to actually write something down. Is this related to using two dictionares instead of one? I really love this app and would like to keep on using it, as no other keyboard seems as good to me.
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I also use f.lux on all our laptops. Never heard of twillight. I highly recommend and have used Lux Dash (location based sunset setting etc) for what seems like forever on Kindle Fire, Note, Note 2 and TF700 and it can even dim down to pretty much all black if you want it to. I never experienced any slow-down because of it on the Infinity.
Just last week I read about two apps that slow down the posters Infinity and one of them was Swiftkey and there was no mention of your dual language setting and I suspect it's not a dual language issue. I've used Danish & English (and briefly Spanish for Duolingo app so 3 at the same time) and also noticed it being very unresponsive, but haven't noticed any diffence with 1, 2, or 3 languages. Now it solely resides on my Note 2. Should be easy to test though, just by disabling one language and see if it makes a difference.
I can't remember what the other app was though. It was some post or article about lowering RAM usage by, among other things, using Titanium to change certain downloadable system apps (Gmail, Dropbox etc) into user apps and then using Greenify. Hopefully Greenify will work on this new Cromi-KK ROM I just installed, but that's on tomorrow's To Do List. Note: Greenify can only do system apps (paid version) with Xposed installer and Xposed doesn't work with KitKat.
Hope that was somewhat useful and not a complete waste of your time :silly:
Not sure if I need to create a new thread, or post here, but I'm at a loss. I feel like I've wasted a ton of money on this thing. I bought the TF700 over the Galaxy 10.1 thinking it had better specs and was going to be a great product from ASUS. First problem I had was "phantom touches" and had to send it in for repair. Now it's utterly useless. It SUPER slow, so slow that I'd rather throw it in the trash than deal with it. I've tried Clean Master, but it never seemed to help performance. I installed CROMBI-kk and it's still has poor performance. I've set the wallpaper to black (none), removed all widgets, and installed maybe 2 apps so far. I also tried LagFix but it says it doesn't have permission to modify the directories (or something like that). I've ensured that Root is enabled under Developer Options.
My old Incredible (v1) runs better than this. I really don't know what to do. It's very frustrating. I even wasted the money on the keyboard attachment but in combination with the lag, I can't even bear to use it. I downloaded 2048 and swipes are slow, and once the tiles move, sometimes it takes a couple of seconds for the numbers to merge.
Is there ANYTHING I can do? I've looked through the suggestions. Am I missing something? Does EVERYONE have this problem with their TF700? I wrote ASUS about it and basically said "since you unlocked the device, we would have to replace the mainboard for $300 (parts + labor) in order to undergo any out-of-warranty diagnostics." The only reason I unlocked it was because I've heard that the performance problems were due to the ASUS software, so I thought installing a custom ROM would be the answer to my problem.
Any idea if this is a hardware issue, or something that can be fixed in the software?
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Not sure if I need to create a new thread, or post here, but I'm at a loss. I feel like I've wasted a ton of money on this thing. I bought the TF700 over the Galaxy 10.1 thinking it had better specs and was going to be a great product from ASUS. First problem I had was "phantom touches" and had to send it in for repair. Now it's utterly useless. It SUPER slow, so slow that I'd rather throw it in the trash than deal with it. I've tried Clean Master, but it never seemed to help performance. I installed CROMBI-kk and it's still has poor performance. I've set the wallpaper to black (none), removed all widgets, and installed maybe 2 apps so far. I also tried LagFix but it says it doesn't have permission to modify the directories (or something like that). I've ensured that Root is enabled under Developer Options.
My old Incredible (v1) runs better than this. I really don't know what to do. It's very frustrating. I even wasted the money on the keyboard attachment but in combination with the lag, I can't even bear to use it. I downloaded 2048 and swipes are slow, and once the tiles move, sometimes it takes a couple of seconds for the numbers to merge.
Is there ANYTHING I can do? I've looked through the suggestions. Am I missing something? Does EVERYONE have this problem with their TF700? I wrote ASUS about it and basically said "since you unlocked the device, we would have to replace the mainboard for $300 (parts + labor) in order to undergo any out-of-warranty diagnostics." The only reason I unlocked it was because I've heard that the performance problems were due to the ASUS software, so I thought installing a custom ROM would be the answer to my problem.
Any idea if this is a hardware issue, or something that can be fixed in the software?
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Something is not right mate.
Confirm what boot loader you are on please, which recovery and how you updated the ROM then we can get you setup so experience your tab like never before
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Something is not right mate.
Confirm what boot loader you are on please, which recovery and how you updated the ROM then we can get you setup so experience your tab like never before
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I followed the instructions in the thread, using twrp-2.6.3-that3_Signed.zip and cm-11.0-20140322-CROMBikk4.4.2-tf700t_Signed.zip. I had already unlocked it a while back with the intention of installing a ROM but never did until yesterday, But I had TWRP 2.3.3.3 installed.
I booted up the tablet, plugged it into the computer, copied over TWRP 2.6.3 (zip) and CROMBI-kk (zip) onto internal storage. Powered down and powered back in into RCK (recovery). First thing I did was an advanced wipe, wiping everything except for the SD card and internal storage. Then installed TWRP from the zip on the storage. Rebooted Recovery. Did the same advanced wipe (x2), then installed the CROMBI zip from within recovery, pretty much leaving all the defaults for the install except for I chose Google Experience Launcher (not sure why, never tried it I guess). That's pretty much it. It installed fine, didn't seem to have any errors or anything odd. Booted up fine, went through the setup process on first boot. Setup 1 Google Account, and installed a few apps (mainly just Chrome and 2048). Other apps installed by ROM were: AdAway, Google+ (for auto-backup), Maps, Hangouts, and I installed SwiftKey. Most everything else seems to be stock.
As far as bootloader, not really sure. When I do the volume-down+power boot, I see Key driver not found.. Android cardhu-user bootloader (1.00 e) released by "US_epad-10.6.1.14.8-20130514" A03. I can get into Terminal Command from TWRP so if I need to run any commands to find out any information, let me know.
Thanks for your response and willingness to help!
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I followed the instructions in the thread, using twrp-2.6.3-that3_Signed.zip and cm-11.0-20140322-CROMBikk4.4.2-tf700t_Signed.zip. I had already unlocked it a while back with the intention of installing a ROM but never did until yesterday, But I had TWRP 2.3.3.3 installed.
I booted up the tablet, plugged it into the computer, copied over TWRP 2.6.3 (zip) and CROMBI-kk (zip) onto internal storage. Powered down and powered back in into RCK (recovery). First thing I did was an advanced wipe, wiping everything except for the SD card and internal storage. Then installed TWRP from the zip on the storage. Rebooted Recovery. Did the same advanced wipe (x2), then installed the CROMBI zip from within recovery, pretty much leaving all the defaults for the install except for I chose Google Experience Launcher (not sure why, never tried it I guess). That's pretty much it. It installed fine, didn't seem to have any errors or anything odd. Booted up fine, went through the setup process on first boot. Setup 1 Google Account, and installed a few apps (mainly just Chrome and 2048). Other apps installed by ROM were: AdAway, Google+ (for auto-backup), Maps, Hangouts, and I installed SwiftKey. Most everything else seems to be stock.
As far as bootloader, not really sure. When I do the volume-down+power boot, I see Key driver not found.. Android cardhu-user bootloader (1.00 e) released by "US_epad-10.6.1.14.8-20130514" A03. I can get into Terminal Command from TWRP so if I need to run any commands to find out any information, let me know.
Thanks for your response and willingness to help!
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OK I don't quite understand your advanced wipe decisions. Also what is 2048?
You need to make sure you are at least wiping /data. It may be worth loading CROMBi-kk to microsd and doing a full format on internal which will do data and the whole internal sd - it'll take about 90 mins+ so nmake sure you have enough juice.
The will eliminate any remnants and left overs.
Your bootloader *should* be fine although it is slightly old as the latest one is 10.6.1.14.10 but I don't think that causes any issues. Also make sure you choose _that's kernel in the installer and it doesn't hurt to disable journaling, disable fsync and enable the 2 GPU options.
Finally after it boots go to settings, about tablet and click the build number 7 times to enable developer settings. Then go into developer settings, enable power menu, root and set your 3 animation settings to 0.5x or zero. Last but not least change the runtime from dalvik to art and then let it reboot.
Let it settle. How does it feel now?
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OK I don't quite understand your advanced wipe decisions. Also what is 2048?
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In the past, I've read to do multiple wipes, but the items I'm wiping should be all except the SD_CARD and Internal Storage. 2048 is a little number game: http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/ (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digiplex.game)
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You need to make sure you are at least wiping /data. It may be worth loading CROMBi-kk to microsd and doing a full format on internal which will do data and the whole internal sd - it'll take about 90 mins+ so nmake sure you have enough juice.
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When I get some free time, I'll come back and give this a shot. Thanks for all your help.
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Your bootloader *should* be fine although it is slightly old as the latest one is 10.6.1.14.10 but I don't think that causes any issues. Also make sure you choose _that's kernel in the installer and it doesn't hurt to disable journaling, disable fsync and enable the 2 GPU options.
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I'll make a note of this as well when I go back through this. I'm not sure where I had the choice of kernel in the installer, but I'll make sure I choose _that's. I don't know what those other options are, but again, will keep an eye out for them.
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Finally after it boots go to settings, about tablet and click the build number 7 times to enable developer settings. Then go into developer settings, enable power menu, root and set your 3 animation settings to 0.5x or zero. Last but not least change the runtime from dalvik to art and then let it reboot.
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Thank you for all this information. When I get some time, I'll give these steps a shot and hopefully be much happier with my tablet. Thanks again!

Anybody using Dropsync with 5.0.x?

The app developer hasn't updated it for Lollipop's new folder hierarchy permission, and he seems to be pointing everyone who asks about it to his Kitkat workaround (https://metactrl.com/docs/sdcard-on-kitkat/). I tried to create the necessary directory via ES File Explorer, but it couldn't create it. Consequently, Dropsync has become completely useless for me. Does anybody use it and have advice? I might be willing to root it if it solves the problem entirely... I hadn't had a reason to root prior. Lollipop penetration is so low that I can't find information on it anywhere else, hence why I'm hoping someone with a Shield has figured it out.
Unfortunately the only apps I've seen accessing the file system properly are the ones that have the special lollipop hack that it looks like was begrudgingly added at the last second.
That much being said, it is ENTIRELY possible that if you are not able to write to your SD card, it is because the SD card is not properly formatted. I recently posted an article somewhere in this forum about how I reformatted my SD card and got apps to write to it and everything was peachy keen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2973307
Disclaimer: I really hope this works for you but given my Thanks it's only been called functional by one other person besides me.
I actually did try formatting as NTFS (after seeing your post) and it was unsuccessful. However, I did quick format and I see now that your post says to format it twice. Perhaps I'll try it again this evening.
Thanks for your input, either way!
Any reason why not to root? DS works fine for me on 2.1 and starkissed kernel
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I actually did try formatting as NTFS (after seeing your post) and it was unsuccessful. However, I did quick format and I see now that your post says to format it twice. Perhaps I'll try it again this evening.
Thanks for your input, either way!
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I'm sorry to hear that. I probably formatted my SD card a couple times too.
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Any reason why not to root? DS works fine for me on 2.1 and starkissed kernel
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Because warranty. Because good old days of not needing root.
Regarding root, I simply haven't had a need to with the Shield. With my phones and older tablets, there is functionality that I could only gain through root. But with the Shield, it's not like I'm removing carrier bloat, tethering behind the carrier's back, etc. I'm not necessarily worried about the warranty aspect... I do have microscopic hairline fractures on the corners, but I'm not petty enough to submit for a warranty exchange for cosmetic blemishes that don't affect performance, and I don't foresee other warranty-worthy issues.
Would root allow me to completely resolve the issue, though? As I mentioned, the developer's write-up specifically covers fixing the issue on KitKat, not Lollipop.
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Any reason why not to root? DS works fine for me on 2.1 and starkissed kernel
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OFF TOPIC but, what is the starkissed kernel? I searched the shield tablet forum for that keyword and this was the only mention it found....
PSA: If you encounter a problem where an app asks for write permissions for the sd card, but selecting it in the documents menu that pops up causes it to crash, format the drive as NTFS and assign a volume label. I had formatted as NTFS but not assigned a volume label and had this issue... once I assigned a label, it was remedied.
And the dropsync developer is updating the app to support these permissions very soon.

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