[Q] Verizon GS4 or M8 - Verizon HTC One (M8)

Has anyone went from the GS4 to the M8? What are your thoughts of the M8? I love my GS4 but I really hate how Verizon and Samsung are locking down the phone and lets not talk about the slow updates to the OS.
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The GS4 is still an absolutely amazing phone, but I made the switch to the M8 and absolutely love it. My S4 is still on the MDK bootloader and I had a little more freedom of flashing, but Samsung has made it known that its never getting any better. I won't argue build quality or specs because they are debatable to no end, but personally I love the M8 already.
FWIW, I was running Hyperdrive on the S4 and I'm currently on Viper on the M8

rsalas187 said:
Has anyone went from the GS4 to the M8? What are your thoughts of the M8? I love my GS4 but I really hate how Verizon and Samsung are locking down the phone and lets not talk about the slow updates to the OS.
Thanks
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Well, you can S-Off the M8. So development should be awesome for a long time (there's already at least a dozen roms and maybe a 1/2 dozen kernels).
That aside, it's a beautiful device, it's fast, it's and Sense really isn't bad (though I don't use the Sense/Blinkfeed launcher).

I switched over from a GS3, and I'm never looking back to Samsung. Sense is about a thousand times better than TouchWiz (imo) and the M8 just feels quicker than my friend's S5. Granted the Samsungs have more features, but they're features that I would never use and I happily trade them for the build quality and ease of customizing offered by the M8
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Came from a gnexus. Kind of illrevent but this phone "if you know what your doing" is the best phone out hands down.
The moment I got it I went home unlocked and rooted it. Next day Viper came out and it's been sexual ever since.
Fast, snappy, quick. This phone runs like butter.
Not trying to sell you but I'd buy.
Sent from my unlocked m8.

Is your S4 unlocked? If so I wouldn't see a large need to upgrade to the M8. An unlocked S4 is a great device.
If it's locked, then yes this is a pretty big upgrade.
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M8.... In comparison the only thing the s4 has is the removable battery.
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Div033 said:
Is your S4 unlocked? If so I wouldn't see a large need to upgrade to the M8. An unlocked S4 is a great device.
If it's locked, then yes this is a pretty big upgrade.
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Yeah it's locked , root has been the only reason I stayed with it.
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rsalas187 said:
Has anyone went from the GS4 to the M8? What are your thoughts of the M8? I love my GS4 but I really hate how Verizon and Samsung are locking down the phone and lets not talk about the slow updates to the OS.
Thanks
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M8 IS THE WAY TO GO. I still have my G2 but verizon really pissed me off this time around for not updating the phone on time like other carriers just for the sake of selling the M8 and S5. I love the G2 camera and all but its locked down and very few dev. Xdabebb being the Bomb.
Anyway i got the M8 and I f...*&^%$#@ love it.
Now the M8 prime coming out in september makes me even more jealous. I would suggest you wait for the M8 prime if the rumors are real.

Without question the m8 kills the s4 in everyway....just my opinion but the m8 is amazing

Is HTC or VZW going to lock down the M8? I'm currently on a GS4 with the MDK bootloader workaround running Hyperdrive, but I prefer AOSP ROMs.
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I went from an s4 to m7 to s5 to an m8 only thing I miss from galaxy phones vs HTC is the camera. IMO the galaxy camera worked much better. The locked down s5 I only last 7 days with. The rest of the phones are unlocked/ s-off/ rooted running custom Roms. S5 felt sluggish compared to m7(rooted/rom'd) go for the m8 but also try both phones out at the stores see which you enjoy more
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jova33 said:
Is HTC or VZW going to lock down the M8? I'm currently on a GS4 with the MDK bootloader workaround running Hyperdrive, but I prefer AOSP ROMs.
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Much to our dismay, Samsung has made great strides in device security with Knox and has been very vocal about it. I assume this is a movement to capture much of the enterprise market as security is a big deal there.
However, I have not seen HTC make the same kind of moves or express a similar agenda, so there's that.
But, yeah I think Verizon is going to want the guys at Qualcomm to patch this up.
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Div033 said:
Much to our dismay, Samsung has made great strides in device security with Knox and has been very vocal about it. I assume this is a movement to capture much of the enterprise market as security is a big deal there.
However, I have not seen HTC make the same kind of moves or express a similar agenda, so there's that.
But, yeah I think Verizon is going to want the guys at Qualcomm to patch this up.
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Hmmmm.... to buy or not to buy.... Or to switch to T-Mobile and get a Nexus.
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I choose to get the M8 over the S5 because of the S-Off and I am glad I got this phone.
I had the S4, so I was in between the S5 or M8, seen the M8 had unlocked bootloader and root, so I figured S5 would not be so lucky to have that within weeks. I am using ViperOne Rom and its amazing really customizable ROM. I get awesome battery life with this phone and it will work from the time I wake till I sleep pretty much every day with my typical use and still have 25% or more battery life when I go to sleep.

rsalas187 said:
Has anyone went from the GS4 to the M8? What are your thoughts of the M8? I love my GS4 but I really hate how Verizon and Samsung are locking down the phone and lets not talk about the slow updates to the OS.
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I went from an S4 to M7 to M8. I still use one of my S4s randomly. I love the S4. Here's an idea of the two phones and how I feel about them...
The S4 right out of the box is nice, but it only amazing with a rooted and gpe ROM on it. New kernel etc.
The M8 is awesome right out of the box. The M7 is awesome right out of the box. Tweaking will refine the experience, but the phone isn't dependent on swapping everything out. I am still using the stock ROM on my M8 and M7, and I will likely keep it that way. I've tweaked them, but they're still stock mostly.
Hope this helps!
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David522d said:
Came from a gnexus. Kind of illrevent but this phone "if you know what your doing" is the best phone out hands down.
The moment I got it I went home unlocked and rooted it. Next day Viper came out and it's been sexual ever since.
Fast, snappy, quick. This phone runs like butter.
Not trying to sell you but I'd buy.
Sent from my unlocked m8.
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I like the way you make words, partner.
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I too came from an S4. I absolutely love the M8 best phone I've ever used. I've had the S3 as well and I'll never get another Samsung phone. Just ordered my fiance a glacial white and she can't wait to get her hands on it after playing with mine.
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Had the m7 went to the sg4 now back to HTC with the m8.. same reasons as identified by other members.. Knox, unlocked boot loader for htc. I love the front facing speakers and have to say sense 6 isn't that bad but way better then touch wiz. like someone said play with the phones see what feels better but if your into flashing roms and altering your phone more then mods HTC would be the way to go.

Div033 said:
Much to our dismay, Samsung has made great strides in device security with Knox and has been very vocal about it. I assume this is a movement to capture much of the enterprise market as security is a big deal there.
However, I have not seen HTC make the same kind of moves or express a similar agenda, so there's that.
But, yeah I think Verizon is going to want the guys at Qualcomm to patch this up.
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I don't get what's going on with Verizon. The Samsung devices on sprint, t mobile, and international are not locked down the same way. Meanwhile, the last two HTC devices have achieved root and s-off without Verizon seeming to make much of a fuss. Maybe they're fine with HTC, LG, and others being more developer friendly...?
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should I switch from Rezound?

Verizon is allowing me to switch from HTC Rezound. Should I? Should i go to another phone instead?
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Verizon is allowing me to switch from HTC Rezound. Should I? Should i go to another phone instead?
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You kidding. You actually hung up the phone and had to think about that. I wish I can get my wife's Rezound swapped out for an S3.
LOL - She's calling me back. I have her email and direct number. She has to have her manager approve it and she wasn't in yet.
Hell yes. I had a rezound and loved it and I hated to get rid of it . But This phone blows the rezound away. Faster, never gets hot and the battery can last 2 days
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LOL - She's calling me back. I have her email and direct number. She has to have her manager approve it and she wasn't in yet.
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Good luck....I cannot think of 1 reason to keep the rezound over an S3. Although some will tell you they like the clearness of the Rezounds screen better. I personally like Super Amoled screens like the S3 has. That is truly the only thing that has really been brought up in past discussions when comparing phones.
I think 11 out of 10 people would pick the S3 though. The 11th was someone with 2 Rezounds : )
Ok - Now I'm just hoping her manager will allow me to head to the store to get it instead of waiting for a factory refurb one....Are you guys modding them or keeping them stock?
My friend had a Rezound and after playing with my S3 for 15 min or so he went to Verizon and switched phones. He said it was smoother and more responsive and like the above he also liked the screen more.
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Ok - Now I'm just hoping her manager will allow me to head to the store to get it instead of waiting for a factory refurb one....Are you guys modding them or keeping them stock?
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They won't let you get one from the store. They have to send you a refurb. I would not worry about it though, from what I have seen Verizon's CLN devices have been very new looking on the outide. You would not be able to tell it was used. They must replace the case and maybe the screens on these before they send them out.
Most people here are unlocked, especially after the update that was recently pushed as people needed to root so it would not update. Verizon's last update was auto installing on non-rooted phones so you had no choice to say no!
I am pretty sure though it has been proven you can unlock with the latest update. When you get your phone, check the software that is on it and then make sure you follow the correct directions to unlock.
I recently switched from Rezound to RAZR Maxx (2 days) to S3. No question, do it! Only thing I wish I had kept was the beats headphones. They're not the best but I should have kept rather than selling with the Rezound.
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"Do it now" -Arnold-
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I came to the S3 from the Rezound and I love it. It's like coming from a basic model Cadillac to a high end Benz. The Caddy is nice but the Benz has all the bells and whistles.
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I have to agree with the rest. I am a former Rezound owner and while it was a great phone, it still pales in comparrison to the polish on the GS3.
The Rezound was pretty thick and dense, the GS3 is future thin and light. The Rezound's screen was nice, sharp, and bright, but it was alittle dull asfar as color reproduction goes. The GS3's screen is stunningly colorful, though not as bright as the Rezound.
But ultimatly it comes down to speed speed speed. Yea the Rezound was quick for its time, but even leaned out (Unlocked, Rooted, debloated and Rommed) its nowhere near as slick as the GS3 is. Its just fast, its pretty much the promise of Android delivered.
Dude you have to think about it really , get the s3 and spend the money and get an otterbox it will save your ______ also get screen protection
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Get the s3.
Gs3
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Another former Rezound owner here who switched to the gs3. I loved my Rezound, but I can't believe I wavered for a month on selling the Rezound to get this phone - - I'm beyond impressed with the gs3, I'm loving it.
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Yes, but I hated my ReZound so I might be a little biased. The screen was the worst part, crap sensitivity, crap colors, dirt everywhere and can't get it out easily. No problems with that on any Samsung phone I've had which is all of them except the Galaxy Nexus.
Do it!!!! Dumping my rezound for a s3 was the best move ever!
HTC could of made the rezound a monster but they kinda just shipped it out and went about their day.
Gs3
Until I hear other wise HTC is a dead company to me
Sending carp out is just not forgivable
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AT&T S4 IS bootloader locked. CONFIRMED according to Samsung and others.

According to Koush on his G+ apparently the AT&T and Verizon S4 will be bootloader locked. Whilst the Verizon one probably will be the AT&T one would be a shock. I can't imagine this is true as the other galaxy devices on AT&T haven't been but I thought I'd let people know if this is the case I imagine it will be bypassed .
UPDATE: according to the engadget review they contacted Samsung who confirmed the s4 is bootloader locked. http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/24/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/
UPDATE2: according to many sources one being Steve Kondik on he G+ the AT&T S4 is bootloader locked.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/100275307499530023476/posts/b4AqTzzVKVS
ste1164 said:
According to Koush on his G+ apparently the AT&T and Verizon S4 will be bootloader locked. Whilst the Verizon one probably will be the AT&T one would be a shock. I can't imagine this is true as the other galaxy devices on AT&T haven't been but I thought I'd let people know if this is the case I imagine it will be bypassed .
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I don't think we should be all that concerned if this is true. I am coming from the HTC One X, which was rooted on day 1 on XDA and the bootloader was unlocked on day 3 or day 4 on XDA. If it is locked, it is only a matter of time.
if its locked im pretty sure adam will be more than willing to help unlock it like he did for the vzw s3 and note2 considering his main carrier is att
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rsmolen said:
I don't think we should be all that concerned if this is true. I am coming from the HTC One X, which was rooted on day 1 on XDA and the bootloader was unlocked on day 3 or day 4 on XDA. If it is locked, it is only a matter of time.
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completely different than a htc. they are in no way locked the same way the htc unlock was basically a bypass of how htcdev worked. this will actually take hardware level scanning etc. and then finding an exploit somewhere in the bootloader or the pit
Wait, what? Link?
Yeah, where are you getting your information?
EDIT: Sorry, just saw the line about Koush on G+.
If true its going back and ill pick up the htc one or just keep my note 2.
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If true its going back and ill pick up the htc one or just keep my note 2.
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Now thats a bit drastic lol. By no means does this mean, if its true, that it wouldnt be unlockable very shortly. I'd just like to read something about it though.
I love rumors that people randomly make up.
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Now thats a bit drastic lol. By no means does this mean, if its true, that it wouldnt be unlockable very shortly. I'd just like to read something about it though.
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I guess its just me but i cant do phones that dont have root. But i heard this a week ago on android central too that the verizon & at&t models will be locked up. I was hoping it was wrong.
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If true its going back and ill pick up the htc one or just keep my note 2.
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if the bootloader is locked you'll go to HTC Lololololol - you are aware that HTC locks all their bootloaders right?and if you wanna flash roms on the go you have to also s-off the device...otherwise you will need a computer for every Rom flash...or flashimagegui.apk if it supports your phone. And lately HTC s-off has required hardware tampering like my HTC vivid...you literally to short the phone while running a program with a wire...HTC is the worst android company (nice phones tho...) But they just lock everything down so hard
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mg2195 said:
if the bootloader is locked you'll go to HTC Lololololol - you are aware that HTC locks all their bootloaders right?and if you wanna flash roms on the go you have to also s-off the device...otherwise you will need a computer for every Rom flash...or flashimagegui.apk if it supports your phone. And lately HTC s-off has required hardware tampering like my HTC vivid...you literally to short the phone while running a program with a wire...HTC is the worst android company (nice phones tho...) But they just lock everything down so hard
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Im thinking about grabbing the GS4 on my other line, which I'm sure i will...I already bought a few cases for it.. But anyways, I currently have the HTC One and its unlocked and rooted and I can flash roms on the go. I can also flash international roms as they also work on the ATT HTC One with no issues. And for everyone that likes CM, it was posted on G+ that almost the entire CM team grabbed a HTC One.
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if the bootloader is locked you'll go to HTC Lololololol - you are aware that HTC locks all their bootloaders right?and if you wanna flash roms on the go you have to also s-off the device...otherwise you will need a computer for every Rom flash...or flashimagegui.apk if it supports your phone. And lately HTC s-off has required hardware tampering like my HTC vivid...you literally to short the phone while running a program with a wire...HTC is the worst android company (nice phones tho...) But they just lock everything down so hard
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Koush said he had a source I do not know who it is & the HTC One is open after you use HTC Dev. The only disadvantage being you can't hide the fact you have done it until you get S-Off. Older HTC devices I agree flashing the boot.img on the One X was very annoying but the one isn't like this.
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Koush said he had a source I do not know who it is & the HTC One is open after you use HTC Dev. The only disadvantage being you can't hide the fact you have done it until you get S-Off. Older HTC devices I agree flashing the boot.img on the One X was very annoying but the one isn't like this.
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Well thank god HTC finally has started to get the idea of what android is all about-great to know you no longer have to flash the boot.IMG separately
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Wow I'm glad I never got an htc. I did hear they locked all bootloaders. I also heard that all verizon phones have locked bootloaders not too sure if that is true. But All I know is I have had the galaxy s, the galaxy 2 and 3 and the galaxy note 2. And oh yea then there was my first android phone the g2x (I wonder why I almost forgot about that one) I got to say I love my note2 it kicks ass and it sounds funny but my favorite was the s2 I don't know why but I just love that phone. Right now I am using the s3 because I dropped my note2. Its a nice phone but just not as good as the others. Plus its a picky processor. Unfortunately I regret the fact that I will not be getting an s4 because I am going to be tied up medically for the next year or so by the time I am around there will probably be an s5 or note 3 or 4 if they even go that far with them. Or who knows maybe samsung will start a new flagship. Sorry to go off topic fellas
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Wow I'm glad I never got an htc. I did hear they locked all bootloaders. I also heard that all verizon phones have locked bootloaders not too sure if that is true. But All I know is I have had the galaxy s, the galaxy 2 and 3 and the galaxy note 2. And oh yea then there was my first android phone the g2x (I wonder why I almost forgot about that one) I got to say I love my note2 it kicks ass and it sounds funny but my favorite was the s2 I don't know why but I just love that phone. Right now I am using the s3 because I dropped my note2. Its a nice phone but just not as good as the others. Plus its a picky processor. Unfortunately I regret the fact that I will not be getting an s4 because I am going to be tied up medically for the next year or so by the time I am around there will probably be an s5 or note 3 or 4 if they even go that far with them. Or who knows maybe samsung will start a new flagship. Sorry to go off topic fellas
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The S2 was a perfect phone for the time. It's also been my favorite Android phone ever...but hopefully the S4 takes that title soon.
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plmiller0905 said:
Im thinking about grabbing the GS4 on my other line, which I'm sure i will...I already bought a few cases for it.. But anyways, I currently have the HTC One and its unlocked and rooted and I can flash roms on the go. I can also flash international roms as they also work on the ATT HTC One with no issues. And for everyone that likes CM, it was posted on G+ that almost the entire CM team grabbed a HTC One.
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While yes Steve Kondik himself got the AT&T HTC One... He also said he's going to carry both the S4 and the One in his review of the One. That being said... HTC has pissed away their chances with me. The One in my humble opinion is fugly, and the thing feels like a cheap toy.. I'm way more impressed by the build quality of my Nexus 4 or Optimus G.. Also I love having the ability to swap out the battery something I've missed having sold my S3 as well as the fact it has an SD card slot.. But that's just my opinion..
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While yes Steve Kondik himself got the AT&T HTC One... He also said he's going to carry both the S4 and the One in his review of the One. That being said... HTC has pissed away their chances with me. The One in my humble opinion is fugly, and the thing feels like a cheap toy.. I'm way more impressed by the build quality of my Nexus 4 or Optimus G.. Also I love having the ability to swap out the battery something I've missed having sold my S3 as well as the fact it has an SD card slot.. But that's just my opinion..
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Same here. I'm absolutely done with HTC as a company after the Raider.
Who'd have thought that my decision to go with them because of solidly built devices and a good out-of-box experience would go so awry? Here I come, crawling back to Samsung (had an SGS1 previously).
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Same here. I'm absolutely done with HTC as a company after the Raider.
Who'd have thought that my decision to go with them because of solidly built devices and a good out-of-box experience would go so awry? Here I come, crawling back to Samsung (had an SGS1 previously).
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The Nexus One was a great device, and I loved it.. But I've been quite disappointed with HTC ever since.. I like to give every company a fair shot, The One X (international version) was the last straw for me.. To be completely honest.. IF the Sony Xperia Z or ZL had the snapdragon 600 chipset, I would most likely be getting one instead. I can't justify spending more on that device with an older chipset for more money off contract. S4 is $639 before taxes.. Though I do have a Premier acct, so I'm going to TRY to get them to give me the $100 discount as well.. Never hurts to ask, ended up getting my launch date S3 for $49.99 after they matched Best Buy, and gave me the premier discount.. It's all in whom you talk to...
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Well thank god HTC finally has started to get the idea of what android is all about-great to know you no longer have to flash the boot.IMG separately
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Yeah agreed that was stupid.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/24/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/ looks like Koush was right samsung confirmed it in engadgets review.

Anyone regret getting the S4?

As the title suggests, has anyone gone past their 14 day exchange policy and regretted getting the S4? I'm just curious as I have about 3 days left of my 14 days and am not completely sold on it yet.
Just to get it out of the way, I'm not a fan of aosp. Not to go into details, but I prefer touchwiz roms. With that being said, even custom roms and kernels can't completely take away some of the annoying lag and stuttering of this phone.
The only other phone I would consider is the HTC One. I can obviously pay the $35 restocking fee to get one or I have a guy locally who will do a straight trade with me. I just wanted some opinions, what do you think?
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I am regretting it!
WizeGuyDezignz said:
As the title suggests, has anyone gone past their 14 day exchange policy and regretted getting the S4? I'm just curious as I have about 3 days left of my 14 days and am not completely sold on it yet.
Just to get it out of the way, I'm not a fan of aosp. Not to go into details, but I prefer touchwiz roms. With that being said, even custom roms and kernels can't completely take away some of the annoying lag and stuttering of this phone.
The only other phone I would consider is the HTC One. I can obviously pay the $35 restocking fee to get one or I have a guy locally who will do a straight trade with me. I just wanted some opinions, what do you think?
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I am.. I came from Verizon Galaxy Nexus and have been on the S4 for 2 full months... There are some nice features on the S4, but some quirky things that REALLY drive me crazy. Given the opportunity, I would go back to my Nexus and wait for something else
I bought the GS4 very soon after it was released and wish I had waited... There arent many other phones out there as powerful as the GS4 but the new Moto X looks like and I also like the GE GS4 as I already own a 1st gen Nexus 7.. Im just glad that they figured out a root for the new MF3 firmware...
WizeGuyDezignz said:
As the title suggests, has anyone gone past their 14 day exchange policy and regretted getting the S4? I'm just curious as I have about 3 days left of my 14 days and am not completely sold on it yet.
Just to get it out of the way, I'm not a fan of aosp. Not to go into details, but I prefer touchwiz roms. With that being said, even custom roms and kernels can't completely take away some of the annoying lag and stuttering of this phone.
The only other phone I would consider is the HTC One. I can obviously pay the $35 restocking fee to get one or I have a guy locally who will do a straight trade with me. I just wanted some opinions, what do you think?
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Nope. In fact more I use, more I feel good about this phone. And also glad that I chose this one over others. Some of the widely used the so called gimmicky features I like using all the time is smart stay, blocking mode, and ofcourse most of the features of TW stock camera. This camera takes the best panorama, period. I have Nexus camera app to take photosphere shot and now I don't miss the Nexus experience at all. But as you know no 2 individual are same, therefore its up to you whether you like this phone or not. After all you are paying to own the device therefore if you are not happy with this go for the one you think is 'money well spent'
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I got mine completely free as do most my other phones. Definitely best smart phone I've ever had and well worth every theoretical penny I spent on it.
I returned mine... just did not like the screen. I have an Active and I'm happy
WizeGuyDezignz said:
As the title suggests, has anyone gone past their 14 day exchange policy and regretted getting the S4? I'm just curious as I have about 3 days left of my 14 days and am not completely sold on it yet.
Just to get it out of the way, I'm not a fan of aosp. Not to go into details, but I prefer touchwiz roms. With that being said, even custom roms and kernels can't completely take away some of the annoying lag and stuttering of this phone.
The only other phone I would consider is the HTC One. I can obviously pay the $35 restocking fee to get one or I have a guy locally who will do a straight trade with me. I just wanted some opinions, what do you think?
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I personally have not experienced any more lag or stutter than I have on other android phones (actually experience much less). I upgraded from a Galaxy Nexus i9250. That phone was slow as hell even with custom roms. The screen was **** too (after a ski trip, the cold did something to the screen and its filled with lines now. GS4 is way better.
I like the phone. I do run it rooted and stock. After getting rid of the bloat I don't think it lags that much. I love the camera and the remote function. I wanted a larger screen and this was a good compromise since I was looking at the Note II. I do have better service than my htc.
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I like the phone. I do run it rooted and stock. After getting rid of the bloat I don't think it lags that much. I love the camera and the remote function. I wanted a larger screen and this was a good compromise since I was looking at the Note II. I do have better service than my htc.
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I love mine, is rooted and also get a lot battery life and removed all bloatware to make it faster:good:
Thanks for all of the responses guys! So none of you wish you had gotten the One? I don't know why the phone is so stuck in my head right now. Thoughts?
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it's a nice phone and I don't regret buying it. I however prefer my Note 1 over it though. the screen was much better (though a lower resolution), no button on the front and tbh I spent more time on stock with the I717 than I did with the I337. I still have my 717 and when this S4 breaks as I'm sure it will, I'll swap back to the 717, get my squaretrade warranty for the S4 and just sit on the cash until something else comes out that suits my fancy. Hopefully something without a locked bootloader.
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Thanks for all of the responses guys! So none of you wish you had gotten the One? I don't know why the phone is so stuck in my head right now. Thoughts?
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I have some reverse insight to add for you, because I initially picked up the One and then swapped it out for the GS4. Every phone has its quirks, and as a previous GSII and GSIII user, I couldn't live with the One's quirks:
The button placement was awkward for me. As a right-hander, I like having the power button at my thumb and the volume rocker at my index and middle finger. The One has the volume rocker lower on the right, and the power button up top.
Without a physical home button, the position of the power button makes the task of quickly checking your phone for the time etc a little more annoying.
The screen stops at the speakers, as opposed to the Galaxy series' glass fronts which go all the way. Doesn't seem like a big deal, but I would almost always get my finger caught in the nano-difference in height between where the speakers end and the screen starts while swiping down for notifications.
On the plus side, build quality on the One is excellent and the speakers just blow the S4 out of the water. The screen, while smaller, looked sharper and less saturated than the GS4's. If those are important to you, definitely check out the One. I was too used to the Galaxy series and decided to switch back to the S4 - couldn't be happier. Hope that helps!
I'm currently on my 3rd month of being a 7 year iPhone convert. I traded my iPhone 5 for a Note 2, then traded the Note for an S4. I like it. I like the feel of it in my hand despite the plastic. Screen is beautiful and the camera is excellent, My only problem is that every single AOSP ROM I flash crashes my phone like crazy. I've gone through at least 6 different AOSP ROMs to no avail. Almost like its just not meant to be. I've used CleanROM since the beginning with the KT kernel overclocked to 2.16GHz, UV'ed -50, Greenified, & Viper audio and on Saturday beat the battery life I was getting on my Note 2 with a 26hr charge. Am I happy? Yes. Can it still be improved on? But will I eventually trade it for a Note 3 when its out? Yes.
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I'm currently on my 3rd month of being a 7 year iPhone convert. I traded my iPhone 5 for a Note 2, then traded the Note for an S4. I like it. I like the feel of it in my hand despite the plastic. Screen is beautiful and the camera is excellent, My only problem is that every single AOSP ROM I flash crashes my phone like crazy. I've gone through at least 6 different AOSP ROMs to no avail. Almost like its just not meant to be. I've used CleanROM since the beginning with the KT kernel overclocked to 2.16GHz, UV'ed -50, Greenified, & Viper audio and on Saturday beat the battery life I was getting on my Note 2 with a 26hr charge. Am I happy? Yes. Can it still be improved on? But will I eventually trade it for a Note 3 when its out? Yes.
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That undervolting might be one of the reasons you're always getting crashes. Liquid smooth 2.9 is by far the best aosp rom I ever ran. Gave me amazing performance with no hiccups on the stock kernel and better battery life than any other rom I ran. Almost 7 hrs of on screen time.
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That undervolting might be one of the reasons you're always getting crashes. Liquid smooth 2.9 is by far the best aosp rom I ever ran. Gave me amazing performance with no hiccups on the stock kernel and better battery life than any other rom I ran. Almost 7 hrs of on screen time.
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WoW tha'ts great battery life, I need to give a try
I agree with all posts to date. And, yes aosp is not quite ready for prime time on most S4 phones. Esp 4.3. Seems like some of the older issues are still there.
I am on Omega v9 and Wicked. They are buttery smooth and lightning fast--flashed correctly of course--
I mainly got the S4 over One for screen size when web browing. And did not like the button placement either. I came from 2 rooted HTC phones, so nothing against HTC.
Luckily we have so many choices--:good:
I didn't get HTC One, because it lacked micro SD card slot. Though it also lacked removable battery option but I could have trade off of that thing. But then again HTC has shown the middle finger with the updates on their so called flagship phones. Next year when they'll release yet another flagship phone, they'll forget about HTC One even exist.
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I didn't get HTC One, because it lacked micro SD card slot. Though it also lacked removable battery option but I could have trade off of that thing. But then again HTC has shown the middle finger with the updates on their so called flagship phones. Next year when they'll release yet another flagship phone, they'll forget about HTC One even exist.
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^^This Too^^
I first got the S4 Active, because I thought it was an S4 that was waterproof... that phone was a big disappointment!
Lacked the SuperAMOLED display
Lacked the more powerfull CPU
and it lacked the Gen3 Gorilla glass...
(these were the dealbreakers for me)
I then traded it in for the Full S4, and loved it!
I just wish I could have kept MDL on it, (yeah, I was stupid, and took the MF3 OTA)
I did have a week + of full root+recovery, and managed to play with a few custom OS' before I reverted back to stock...
even though I am no longer able to use a custom recovery, I am very happy with the S4 and would only trade it for a MDB/MDL phone at this point.
I've bought the S4 a couple times since its been released. Even upgraded to it a few times before taking it back. Finally decided to pick a brand new one up on eBay after thoroughly checking the IMEI number. I do not think the phone is worth a full upgrade. That's why I got mine for a song brand new on eBay. One shouldn't have to root and flash a custom rom because the original phone software is way too laggy.
I don't regret getting the S4, but I know I won't be sticking with it as long as I planned. It's a great phone, but I'd like to see what the next iPhone brings to the table and the Note 3.

Anyone here wanting or waiting for the LG G2?

It looks like an amazing device and I wouldn't mind selling my current S4 and buying the G2.
The S4 is my third Samsung device and I've been pretty content, but I just wanna try out the G2 because it looks gorgeous, fast and new.
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Looks really nice and the specs are killer, but with att saying they are going to be locking boot loaders now. My next phone is going to be a nexus device.
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Looks really nice and the specs are killer, but with att saying they are going to be loving bout loaders now. My next phone is going to be a nexus device.
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Agreed...no killer phone is worth going through another locked boot loader. I cancelled my order for the Nexus 4 a couple of days ago. Hopefully, the next nexus device will have a larger screen and and won't be so hard on the eyes...just my opinion. I'm predicting a migration to Nexus devices by a lot folks...
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Damn, that sucks. I live in Canada and bootloaders don't exist.
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I have last year's options G and it is a great phone. But specs can only get you so far. I am hoping the rumors are right and the next nexus will have the same specs as the G2.
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I've been seriously thinking about it, I have the S4 now and its really nice. But design wise i felt better holding my HTC ONE XL.
Also i use it for music and the sound card in it is garbage, anything over halfway and the base just distorts and ruins everything.
The G2 has killer audio in it and i love the way it looks with the buttons.
Highly thinking of selling the s$ and getting the G2.
I'll de waiting to see how the development community picks on it first though.
Thats why I switched to the S4 i figured development was always killer for the Galaxy line and my ONE XL was pretty weak on development.
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Looks really nice and the specs are killer, but with att saying they are going to be locking boot loaders now. My next phone is going to be a nexus device.
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This! I was fortunate to get my S4 early so I have recovery. But if something happened to this device and I had to warrantee it and my new device had MF3, I would drop kick the phone to EBay in a instant. Hopefully this phone lasts until the new Nexus device drops.
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Ill be getting the g2 i had the op g & g pro both great devices the gpros boot loader was lokied fairly quick but even the stock ui was great
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Nexus 5.
I'll use at&t prepay. I'm done with their locked bootloaders. Didn't used to be this way. No more contracts. No more locked up devices. Cheers.
NOTE 3 looks awesome so I will get that. Just not too sure of the leather or faux leather back.
I would not buy anything other than a Samsung actually.
It just consistently has the best chance for great development community support.
I'm not saying LG won't get support, but high end Samsung phones generally gets MORE support and FASTER than most other mfg's.
If HTC didn't put their hard buttons backwards , then they would be my second choice.
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HTC one m8 or Galaxy s5

I'm thinking about switching to the s5 but I love this phone. I get a new phone every so often though outta habit. Would you guys think it'll be a beneficial switch? Or should I stay on the HTC team?
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Two words. Locked bootloader.
It depends what you like, two totally different phones
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spotmark said:
Two words. Locked bootloader.
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Can I do everything as I can with phone. Flash roms and everything
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spotmark said:
Two words. Locked bootloader.
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Can I do everything as I can with phone. Flash roms and everything
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Confused by the wording but as of now and for the foreseeable future the s5 has a locked and non unlockable boot loader. It does have safe strap, however, which allows it to only install touchwiz roms (kernel restrictions). The m8 on the other hand can flash any ROM any kernel anything it desires because it is unlocked and s off.
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I know this is awful late but to be strictly clear with no confusion, you CANNOT flash any kernels, ROMs or scripts (some scripts work but most likely not fully functional due to LOCKED bootloader) on the Samsung Galaxy S5. Now with this 'Safestrap' option you can backup/restore your ROM yeah but any ROM which isn't made and digitally signed by Samsung/your carrier will NOT work. There is currently no way to bypass this and if you want to flash anything your best and only option between the two is the M8.
On the other hand if you don't care about flashing that much then the M8 is still tons snappier and faster than the S5, even beats iPhones in their snappiness where as the S5 loses to the iPhone in speed tests between switching apps. & it's not benchmarks i'm talking about, strictly the speed of when you open apps and navigate through them. Real usage.
Loads more stuff but if you want the good things about the S5 look elsewhere from my post as I've never had one and I myself love the M8.
#M8
Additionally, the m8 wins in every head to head review I've seen. Nearly everyone prefers it.
I've had both Samsung and htc phones, you can't go wrong with either. But after using the m8 I wouldn't even consider switching to the s5. It's way faster in nearly everything it does. Plus you'll get updates much more quickly with htc, which is a huge plus for this phone holding its value in the future.
Why am I... oh well.
M8 wins in everything but camera. 4MP just can't compete. It's good enough for some but it's just not a great camera.
Samsung is like... It's just cheap parts all the way down. A Samsung phone and nearly any other manufacturer's phone (Apple, HTC, Motorola, etc) walk away from the farthest tower in any one direction, and they walk away from all the towers. They're all in active calls. The Samsung will drop first every time. They skimped on the radio like HTC skimped on the camera. What's more important? Your camera? Or your connectivity? Remember, we're talking about your phone here.
Also, the S5 may have a locked bootloader (I didn't know this) but for the M8, all you have is Sense ROMs for the time being. Everything else there's some deal breaker or another. But the phone's only a few months old. I imagine the bugs will all get ironed out by the end of the summer or so.
There's no phone out or on the horizon I'd rather have. I'm curious as to what Motorola and Apple do next, but I do believe I got the best smartphone on the market with my One M8.
Thanks for the replies guys..I think I'm just gonna stick with my M8 ?
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Thanks for the replies guys..I think I'm just gonna stick with my M8 ?
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Good choice imho.
After all, it is an M8 section. Everyone will be biased just like if you were to ask the same thing in the S5 section.
Each phone has their differences. For example, the S5 has a removable battery, touchwiz, and a few other things I'm sure. But one thing is that it does not feel cheap, I am not sure what started this famous "cheap" talk about phones because nobody ever complained when the first droids were the same materials...
The M8 does have amazing speakers if you value that. The "premium" metal chassis makes the phone very heavy compared to other smartphones like the S5. Sense has also come a long way from froyo days.
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After all, it is an M8 section. Everyone will be biased just like if you were to ask the same thing in the S5 section.
Each phone has their differences. For example, the S5 has a removable battery, touchwiz, and a few other things I'm sure. But one thing is that it does not feel cheap, I am not sure what started this famous "cheap" talk about phones because nobody ever complained when the first droids were the same materials...
The M8 does have amazing speakers if you value that. The "premium" metal chassis makes the phone very heavy compared to other smartphones like the S5. Sense has also come a long way from froyo days.
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Everything feels cheap compared to this phone. It's kind of a ridiculous and negligent point, but metal does feel more premium than plastic. Doesn't mean the internals are cheap, but you can argue that plastic is cheaper than metal.
Anyone who actually purchased an s5 and not this phone who actually use XDA simply didn't do enough research first. No question that this phone is the clear winner, at least on Verizon's and AT&T's network. If I was using t-mobile or sprint, I probably would've been much more torn on what to pick.
Maybe it's bias, maybe it isn't, but I used to be a Samsung fanboy until I tried the m8 out. I loved my S3, great phone for a long time. Can't say I'd ever regret not getting an S5.
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Everything feels cheap compared to this phone. It's kind of a ridiculous and negligent point, but metal does feel more premium than plastic. Doesn't mean the internals are cheap, but you can argue that plastic is cheaper than metal.
Anyone who actually purchased an s5 and not this phone who actually use XDA simply didn't do enough research first. No question that this phone is the clear winner, at least on Verizon's and AT&T's network. If I was using t-mobile or sprint, I probably would've been much more torn on what to pick.
Maybe it's bias, maybe it isn't, but I used to be a Samsung fanboy until I tried the m8 out. I loved my S3, great phone for a long time. Can't say I'd ever regret not getting an S5.
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Plastic makes the phone very light. If you use a case, your argument becomes invalid. I use a case with all my phones including the M8 so I don't feel ever the aluminum, just the heaviness of it.
If you value kernels and aosp/CM based roms, then M8 is the way to go. If your into stockish experience, then either one is a winner.
Don't get me wrong, I love my M8. But I feel I should shed some unbiased opinion on which phone fits you. The LG G3 is also another great phone you might want to check out.
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