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I can not find enithing in this Search

Hi everybody!
I’ve surfed this forum many times, trying to find topics, where I could get info, such.
What are Radio Rom, Extended Rom, and Extracted Rom?
What they include inside?
To whom belongs files nk.nbf and ms.nbf?
What gives new version, when you do update?
What is Bluetooth version 1.0 ----2.0, is it version of chipset, or is it version of software?
Can you change this version of bluetooth, and a lot of questions, where I can’t find any answers over Word!!!
I have seen many times, instead answers just redirect to old topics.
Where do I know, may be from that time this question about WM5.0 is WORK?
I am myself seen QTEC2020i(XDAIIi) complete with mobile 5.0.
Please, answer how to Search(make sentence) and where(index), or answer to one of the many questions above?

Hi YARMen!
I know the search can be problematic if you do not enter the right keywords and even then it doesn't cover the WiKi which is where you should look for most of the answers.
Here are some quick answers for you:
Radio ROM - The drivers and stuff that control the phone WiFi and BT (all the radio) this is separate from the OS and can be updated by it self.
Extended ROM is a part of the devices FLASH that is hidden (can be unhidden with reg hacks and used to store files so they won't be deleted during hard reset). It is used to store provider customization cabs that install automatically after you hard reset the device.
Extracted ROM is a ROM image extracted from a device. Basically you take all the OS, drivers and stuff and save them to a file on the PC for later use.
To whom belongs files nk.nbf and ms.nbf?
What gives new version, when you do update?
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Not exactly sure what you mean here. the mbf files are ROM images, and updates are produced by the OEMs. (Original Equipment Manufacturers)
Not sure about BT, but I think it's hardware.
That's it.

radio rom also called radio stack
have the software which also control the gsm/umts phone software

Thank you very much for answers!
Not exactly sure what you mean here. the mbf files are ROM images, and updates are produced by the OEMs. (Original Equipment Manufacturers)
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When I updated my PDA I used ROM which consisted files ms_.nbf, nk.nbf, and radio_.nbf. I think it get 1, 2, 3 steps to install the softwere.
You can upgrade all of them or just one, moving files from folder, where installer starts.
So I know now what is radio_.nbf, it is radio ROM about that you have told me. Question is what the rest?
And please, if you know, what about version Bluetooth below?

Ok, well nk.nbf is 'main' ROM. It's the OS and hardware drivers for touch screen, LCD etc.
I am not sure but that leaves ms_.nbf to be the extended ROM. I could be wrong though.

Thank you, Levenum.
Good job!

There is a solution of search.
If you want to find exact words or sentences into this forum, or another wiki sites go to Google.com or another search server, put your words in extended search and choose domen(write down) 'forum.xda-developers.com' and etc.

[LY-F1] Model number vs build.prop

Hi guys, hope somebody can help me.
I have an LY-F1 tablet with latest ICS 4.0.3 from manufacturer site.
It's pre-rooted already and i installed superuser and busybox.
My major problem is the market, my tablet is recognized has unknown MID which keeps me from getting acess to the full list of apps and gives me compatibility issues.
I've searched in build.prop and there's no field in that file that could define my tablet as MID.
Where can that info be stored for the market to read it?
On my about tablet it also shows MID for model number which means that must be stored somewhere else.
my ro.product.model has a value of A710, not MID!!
What the hell can i do to change this?
I was told to create a local.prop on /data folder, that local.prop should override the build.prop but with no result.
I used a build.prop file from a previous ICS firmware for the same device with no results too. That previous release had full market acess with that same file and the most strange thing was that when using that previous file whem going to about tablet nothing changed, model remains the same, build date remains the date of previous firmware also. Seems like nothing is read from build.prop.
Hope i made my point and sorry for the long post.
Thanks in advance

That's because "MID" model is defined in the "oem.prop" file. I suggest you to use a custom ROM based on the official one released on 10.3.2012.
Here is the video link, you can see how good it is, and it has a "MID" changed to other model so you can access a lot of more apps on makert.
Only bug I found in this one is the HDMI connection, but gaming is great, for the first time, I am able to play Aspahalt 6 on my Ly-f1 tablet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Xx1jGxeeRyU
Alseo, today, manufacturer released the new version ROM and it says that it has a better market compatibility. I'm gona test it as soon it gets downloaded.

aldinezi said:
That's because "MID" model is defined in the "oem.prop" file. I suggest you to use a custom ROM based on the official one released on 10.3.2012.
Here is the video link, you can see how good it is, and it has a "MID" changed to other model so you can access a lot of more apps on makert.
Only bug I found in this one is the HDMI connection, but gaming is great, for the first time, I am able to play Aspahalt 6 on my Ly-f1 tablet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Xx1jGxeeRyU
Alseo, today, manufacturer released the new version ROM and it says that it has a better market compatibility. I'm gona test it as soon it gets downloaded.
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hey guys
i have a question, i read your post,but so i must change the information inside the file "oem.prop"??anf How ??....thanks.

[Q] What's the difference between a device OS, apps, and firmware

I've done some research but many sources seem to either use the terms interchangeably or as separate items. I figured no better place than get the info directly from xda users. So basically I am trying to figure out what the differences are between an android app, and android OS, and android firmware. Your explanation will be much appreciated.
Also while i'm here if anyone could tell me what the difference in unlocking a phone, rooting a phone, and flashing a phone is that would be great.
Thanks in advance!

Az Tek said:
I've done some research but many sources seem to either use the terms interchangeably or as separate items. I figured no better place than get the info directly from xda users. So basically I am trying to figure out what the differences are between an android app, and android OS, and android firmware. Your explanation will be much appreciated.
Also while i'm here if anyone could tell me what the difference in unlocking a phone, rooting a phone, and flashing a phone is that would be great.
Thanks in advance!
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What a bunch of questions All informations are already written doen on XDA but i'll post a short overview
app = installable appliction e.g. a camera app or messenger app
OS = operating system ~ the installed Android version (e.g. Gingerbread 2.3 or KitKat 4.4). Can be preinstalled "stock rom" or a manually installed "custom rom"
firmware = all system partitions bundled in one archive. Can be used to restore phone. Every manufacturer has its own firmware format.
unlocking = Either sim unlock for using all providers OR unlock the "bootloader" which is needed for some phones if you want to install modified software e.g. a "custom rom" or "root acces"
"root access" means ability to read/write/delete to all partitions even e.g. system
"flashing" describes the installation process for e.g. a firmware or custom rom or any other system parts that can't be installed via Android itself.

[ROM][RK3188][MTCD] Stock Joying JY 1.90 + SuperSU (Android 5.1.1)

For those that want a rooted stock ROM, without having to use Kingoroot, here you go.
jy190_rooted.zip
This is the JY 1.90 ROM + SuperSU installed, no garbage, no Kingoroot or whatever. I took the 1.90 Joying image, unpacked it, manually installed SuperSU (basically duplicating what the SuperSU installation script does), and repackaged it. It is running on my Jeep HU right now and SuperSU is fully functional.
I've made two harmless changes to stock that you can change after flashing:
Default Bluetooth device name is "JoyingJeep" instead of "CAR-KIT" (tired of changing it manually to the name I want)
Default Timezone is America/Detroit instead of China/Shanghai (same reason as above)
Prerequisite: Probably you will want to get the JY1.90 ROM from Joying directly, and update your HU with it because Joying includes an updated MCU image. I am *not* including the MCU image here because one of you is going to flash it onto the wrong hardware and brick your HU. I am only providing the ROM image, just like Malaysk does.
1. To install, first extract dupdate.img from the zip.
2. Copy dupdate.img to the root directory of a USB stick or SD card
3. Enter recovery, flash. If coming from stock you can probably flash without clearing all. If coming from Malaysk you might want to clear all first.
Understand what you are doing. Read Malaysk's thread about flashing, and read all of his warnings, as they all apply here.
Thanks to Malaysk for his ROM and all of the other tweaks he's done. If you want something beyond stock, try his.
Thanks to Joying for making this unit, there is nothing else like it on the market. As long as continues to work, I'll continue to be very happy with it.
Thanks once more to Joying for being (so far) pretty friendly to the DIY/modding/hacking crowd. I've never seen a company so open with flashing and modding, and continuing to update their own firmware for their customers. It is nice to see, so let's not abuse it. Mod responsibly.
There won't be any additional support from me. This is a rooted stock ROM, that's it.
Edit 5-Nov-2016, some FAQ:
Unpacking and repacking a rockchip ROM
Adding root to the ROM
Make it easy on yourself: ROM kitchen by da_anton

it starts video playback on boot. its not your rom, its the original as well, but weird.
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What tool you use to unpack rom?

Hi!!! Thanks for your work I'm going to wipe my ROM (I think there's some garbage after deleting Kingoroot) and put your ROM into my unit.
Great work
wskelly said:
For those that want a rooted stock ROM, without having to use Kingoroot, here you go.
jy190_rooted.zip
This is the JY 1.90 ROM + SuperSU installed, no garbage, no Kingoroot or whatever. I took the 1.90 Joying image, unpacked it, manually installed SuperSU (basically duplicating what the SuperSU installation script does), and repackaged it. It is running on my Jeep HU right now and SuperSU is fully functional.
I've made two harmless changes to stock that you can change after flashing:
Default Bluetooth device name is "JoyingJeep" instead of "CAR-KIT" (tired of changing it manually to the name I want)
Default Timezone is America/Detroit instead of China/Shanghai (same reason as above)
Prerequisite: Probably you will want to get the JY1.90 ROM from Joying directly, and update your HU with it because Joying includes an updated MCU image. I am *not* including the MCU image here because one of you is going to flash it onto the wrong hardware and brick your HU. I am only providing the ROM image, just like Malaysk does.
1. To install, first extract dupdate.img from the zip.
2. Copy dupdate.img to the root directory of a USB stick or SD card
3. Enter recovery, flash. If coming from stock you can probably flash without clearing all. If coming from Malaysk you might want to clear all first.
Understand what you are doing. Read Malaysk's thread about flashing, and read all of his warnings, as they all apply here.
Thanks to Malaysk for his ROM and all of the other tweaks he's done. If you want something beyond stock, try his.
Thanks to Joying for making this unit, there is nothing else like it on the market. As long as continues to work, I'll continue to be very happy with it.
Thanks once more to Joying for being (so far) pretty friendly to the DIY/modding/hacking crowd. I've never seen a company so open with flashing and modding, and continuing to update their own firmware for their customers. It is nice to see, so let's not abuse it. Mod responsibly.
There won't be any additional support from me. This is a rooted stock ROM, that's it.
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wskelly said:
This is the JY 1.90 ROM + SuperSU installed, no garbage, no Kingoroot or whatever. I took the 1.90 Joying image, unpacked it, manually installed SuperSU (basically duplicating what the SuperSU installation script does), and repackaged it. It is running on my Jeep HU right now and SuperSU is fully functional.
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Great idea and thanks for the work! Thought of that myself! Could you perhaps tell me how you made that ROM? How did you manage to extract the img file and put everything back together? Did you use imgRePackerRK? Thanks!

da_anton said:
Great idea and thanks for the work! Thought of that myself! Could you perhaps tell me how you made that ROM? How did you manage to extract the img file and put everything back together? Did you use imgRePackerRK? Thanks!
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Yes, I used imgrepackerrk on Linux. After dumping the contents you are left with more img files. These are all block storage. In Linux, it is possible to mount these img files and manipulate their contents just like any block device.
Afterward, you can repack everything again with imgrepackerrk.
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wskelly said:
[*]Default Bluetooth device name is "JoyingJeep" instead of "CAR-KIT" (tired of changing it manually to the name I want)
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hey I also named my Joying that

This is great! If I hadn't install the Sept Joying image last weekend, I would have totally installed this. Thank so much!
One suggestion though, if you decide to make another one at some point, you might want to install the xposed framework (I did this via flashfire) and appsettings 1.13. I can provide a link to each, that are known good, as the 'regular' framework and App Settings 1.10 (from xposed directly) doesn't work. I know it's designed as 'stock' but at minimum the framework just makes sense, I think.

wskelly said:
Yes, I used imgrepackerrk on Linux. After dumping the contents you are left with more img files. These are all block storage. In Linux, it is possible to mount these img files and manipulate their contents just like any block device.
Afterward, you can repack everything again with imgrepackerrk.
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Thanks! Great work! Got it working today and made my first ROM based on yours. I removed some apps which are just wasting RAM and I don't need.

Greetings,
I am very new to these head units got my first one 2 months ago. been reading and learning a lot here. I have a KGL and installed this rom, its working great and its a bit visually different then the one's I have used for KGL. Glad to know we have options on roms and tweaking we can do.
I do have a small annoyance that I hope some one can help me with. I had hoped this rom would solve it but unfortunately not. The radio RDS feature, on all the roms I have used the problem stays the same. I am in the US and its set to Europe RDS PTY code. So I can see the all the station and song information but the Station genera is wrong. like country music stations listed as pop and rock stations listed as Drama. I figure their is a file that the radio ap references to know what label to use and display. I have searched for this file or ap location but have had no luck in finding were it would be located. Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to possible fix it so the radio displays the correct station type? Sorry to hijack a thread but my post count is not high enough to allow me to start my own. search has not helped. Thanks all.

da_anton said:
Thanks! Great work! Got it working today and made my first ROM based on yours. I removed some apps which are just wasting RAM and I don't need.
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Awesome! Keep tinkering! This is how everyone gets started. ?
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Hi !, I'm not 100% sure but try to change radio reg at the Factory options.....
pinkpanther28 said:
Greetings,
I am very new to these head units got my first one 2 months ago. been reading and learning a lot here. I have a KGL and installed this rom, its working great and its a bit visually different then the one's I have used for KGL. Glad to know we have options on roms and tweaking we can do.
I do have a small annoyance that I hope some one can help me with. I had hoped this rom would solve it but unfortunately not. The radio RDS feature, on all the roms I have used the problem stays the same. I am in the US and its set to Europe RDS PTY code. So I can see the all the station and song information but the Station genera is wrong. like country music stations listed as pop and rock stations listed as Drama. I figure their is a file that the radio ap references to know what label to use and display. I have searched for this file or ap location but have had no luck in finding were it would be located. Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to possible fix it so the radio displays the correct station type? Sorry to hijack a thread but my post count is not high enough to allow me to start my own. search has not helped. Thanks all.
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Thank you for the work!
Question, how did you extract the img file. the typical utilities i use for android seem to be incompatible with this system image.
Found!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257331

Yes. Earlier post

mlkemac said:
Thank you for the work!
Question, how did you extract the img file. the typical utilities i use for android seem to be incompatible with this system image.
Found!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257331
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See post #5.

@wskelly could you maybe tell me exactly what you did to include SuperSU in ROM? I would like to integrate it into the ROM builder scripts here https://github.com/da-anton/MTCD_ROM-cooking. Would be great!

da_anton said:
@wskelly could you maybe tell me exactly what you did to include SuperSU in ROM? I would like to integrate it into the ROM builder scripts here https://github.com/da-anton/MTCD_ROM-cooking. Would be great!
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Yes, I kind of did already. If you look into the SuperSU thread here in Xda, you can get the latest version. Inside the flashable zip, there is a dir
META-INF/com/google/android
Then you'll find install-binary, which is actually a shell script. (this directory structure is the actually standard format for recovery-flashable zips)
In the shell script the author goes into great detail about what his where and with what permissions.
The big caveat for your efforts is that we have sdk 22 (5.1.1) and things are different depending on which version of Android you have (some Joying units are KitKat). The installation script handles every version of Android so far and this is all detailed by the author in the script.
Another warning: the installation script runs another binary tool that will "convert" wine of the binaries to "pie" executables. Because the ones I want are compiled for ARMv7, and I'm on Intel modding the ROM, I'm not sure if I can run that tool with confidence. So, I took the su binary files from Malaysk's ROM, which I know work. This is why SuperSU tells you that the binary is out of date right away. You must follow the chaos and chcon instructions in the installation script exactly. (I think malaysk is missing some of those steps because his rom would always fail to update su via the app)
So my recommendation is to look at the installation script, and follow the instructions in the comments section which are very detailed about what goes where. Except instead of using SuperSU installation files, you should take the files from my ROM. **You may try to use the files from SuperSU, but likely you will get a bootloop (because of the pie format issue), worth trying though. Also worth trying the pie conversion on Intel.
I'm on my phone so hopefully spellings and the path names aren't too messed up.
I'm curious if removing the recovery.img and bootloader.img if it will still flash. Flashing those two partitions every time is asking for trouble eventually.
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pinkpanther28 said:
Greetings,
I am very new to these head units got my first one 2 months ago. been reading and learning a lot here. I have a KGL and installed this rom, its working great and its a bit visually different then the one's I have used for KGL. Glad to know we have options on roms and tweaking we can do.
I do have a small annoyance that I hope some one can help me with. I had hoped this rom would solve it but unfortunately not. The radio RDS feature, on all the roms I have used the problem stays the same. I am in the US and its set to Europe RDS PTY code. So I can see the all the station and song information but the Station genera is wrong. like country music stations listed as pop and rock stations listed as Drama. I figure their is a file that the radio ap references to know what label to use and display. I have searched for this file or ap location but have had no luck in finding were it would be located. Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to possible fix it so the radio displays the correct station type? Sorry to hijack a thread but my post count is not high enough to allow me to start my own. search has not helped. Thanks all.
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Yea, this post is *completely* off topic and deserves its own thread. Maybe someone here will start a new thread for you.
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wskelly said:
So my recommendation is to look at the installation script, and follow the instructions in the comments section which are very detailed about what goes where. Except instead of using SuperSU installation files, you should take the files from my ROM. **You may try to use the files from SuperSU, but likely you will get a bootloop (because of the pie format issue), worth trying though. Also worth trying the pie conversion on Intel.
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OK. I created a module in the MTCD ROM builder for that. How exactly did you set the links without chroot? Maybe you could have a look a my version and could tell me if anything is missing :angel:
https://github.com/da-anton/MTCD_ROM-cooking/blob/master/modules/install_supersu.sh

da_anton said:
OK. I created a module in the MTCD ROM builder for that. How exactly did you set the links without chroot? Maybe you could have a look a my version and could tell me if anything is missing :angel:
https://github.com/da-anton/MTCD_ROM-cooking/blob/master/modules/install_supersu.sh
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Awesome script! I was way too lazy to do this but I wished I had it! ? I actually started to mod the SuperSU script to root the local ROM but I just got lazy.
To link without chrooting you can use the -f (force) option.
I am on my phone and didn't get to look at the whole script yet but you could just try to root stock and see if it works?
Nice job!
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wskelly said:
Awesome script! I was way too lazy to do this but I wished I had it! ? I actually started to mod the SuperSU script to root the local ROM but I just got lazy.
To link without chrooting you can use the -f (force) option.
I am on my phone and didn't get to look at the whole script yet but you could just try to root stock and see if it works?
Nice job!
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Thanks! I already tried that and my unit is stuck in a boot loop now. Guess it's because I forgot to include the binary from Malaysk and used the official one instead will try the next days to fix my unit

Is it possible to build android on non Google Phone?

I have an old Samsung phone running on Marshmallow. I want to build android and flash it on the old phone. Many take Google Pixel to show how to do it and say it’s not possible to do it on non-Google device. Is there a way to get around it?

KrishnaD3V said:
I have an old Samsung phone running on Marshmallow. I want to build android and flash it on the old phone. Many take Google Pixel to show how to do it and say it’s not possible to do it on non-Google device. Is there a way to get around it?
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Sure. Here's some reading material on how to build a custom Android operating system. https://www.androidauthority.com/build-custom-android-rom-720453/
If it all seems too much, you could instead install a custom Android operating system prebuilt by others. One such example is LineageOS which has its own website and installation instructions.
You will have to first determine the exact model and sub-variant of your Samsung phone.
Then determine whether it is network carrier unlocked.
Then determine whether the bootloader is allowed to be unlocked (allow oem unlocking).
LineageOS Downloads
download.lineageos.org

Thanks for the reply
Do you know how to obtain proprietary binaries for a device?

KrishnaD3V said:
Thanks for the reply
Do you know how to obtain proprietary binaries for a device?
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Depends on the the exact device model? (Go to settings =>About phone) (or in the dialler, type *#0*# then tap on 'version'). Then search the XDA forum for that device, then spend some time scrolling through the posts to find the info you're searching for. https://forum.xda-developers.com/c/samsung.11975/

*#0*# doesn’t give any option for version. So I thought to see in settings. What ‘version’ should I look for?

Go to settings =>About phone
Look for a code which which looks similar to SM-GTI9100

KrishnaD3V said:
Thanks for the reply
Do you know how to obtain proprietary binaries for a device?
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Either extract them from phone's Stock ROM file, or pull them out of phone.

zpunout said:
Go to settings =>About phone
Look for a code which which looks similar to SM-GTI9100
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It’s SM-A800I running android 6.0.1 . And it’s not on the list that you sent. What can I do?

jwoegerbauer said:
Either extract them from phone's Stock ROM file, or pull them out of phone.
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I do have the stock rom file but I can’t find guide on how to do so. I found a video where person extracts it from lineage os. Is the process going to be the same? And by the way does it matter which version of stock rom I have because the phone came with android 5 and I updated it to 6 with official update.

KrishnaD3V said:
It’s SM-A800I running android 6.0.1 . And it’s not on the list that you sent. What can I do?
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Yeah, there's not much development on that device, I read somewhere that Samsung supposedly never released the source code. It is hard to search for, but I did find this link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...al-cyanogenmod-13-for-galaxy-a800f-i.3344081/
I did find out that the nickname of your SM-A800I model is "a8hplte" which might help you in search engines.
Looks like a dead end to me though.

KrishnaD3V said:
I do have the stock rom file but I can’t find guide on how to do so. I found a video where person extracts it from lineage os. Is the process going to be the same? And by the way does it matter which version of stock rom I have because the phone came with android 5 and I updated it to 6 with official update.
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The so-called binary blobs are kinds of hardware drivers, you can't simply extract them of a Custom ROM, you have to extract them from a phone's original Stock ROM, as I told you this already earlier.
These binary blobs typically are found under /vendor/lib(64), some also under /system, /etc and /bin.
Most of the blobs are executable files or libraries, run as independent services on phone's boot.

jwoegerbauer said:
The so-called binary blobs are kinds of hardware drivers, you can't simply extract them of a Custom ROM, you have to extract them from a phone's original Stock ROM, as I told you this already earlier.
These binary blobs typically are found under /vendor/lib(64), some also under /system, /etc and /bin.
Most of the blobs are executable files or libraries, run as independent services on phone's boot.
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Thanks for the info

zpunout said:
Yeah, there's not much development on that device, I read somewhere that Samsung supposedly never released the source code. It is hard to search for, but I did find this link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...al-cyanogenmod-13-for-galaxy-a800f-i.3344081/
I did find out that the nickname of your SM-A800I model is "a8hplte" which might help you in search engines.
Looks like a dead end to me though.
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Not so beginner friendly I guess . I try my luck extracting the blobs as described by
jwoegerbauer.​