I have a Gear 1 and just got a Gear 2 four days ago--I've been playing with it a lot. So far, I like the 1 better. Tizen may be a great OS but it has limited support/development compared to Android Wear. I can't (yet) side load apps and will likely never be able to use Wondershare MobileGo as I did with the 1. My ebay notifications don't work as they did flawlessly on the 1. The 2's vibrate is very weak even on the strong setting. Battery life is much better on the 2 but I never minded charging once a night. While I'm sure there is a CPU speed difference, I haven't noticed it at any significant rate. As far as looks go, I personally liked the quirkiness of the 1. It gave it personality. Having the home button on the front is more intrusive than on the side as it was on the 1, particularly since there's no lock screen. It was also nice to swipe down on the screen to get to the camera or whatever--now I have to hit the button twice.
The media hype made the 2 sound like it was the second coming. For me, it is far from being ready for prime time. In truth, the 2 is a version 1 with the obligatory bugs that will almost certainly be worked out in the near future. For those who have the patience to wait for new firmware, roots, etc. It will probably be a great device. I'll probably give it a few more weeks as I really want to like it.
Well Gear 1's FW testing has began to let it run Tizen. So swiping down will go away there aswell ...
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GG2's hardware is better than the Gear 1 however the software is way limited compared to Null or the other options you can do with the gear. IMHO.
Once Android or Null or Android Wear is on the Gear 2 then it will be the best smartwatch but until then it's just the best hardware.
So what will android wear bring that the gear2 can't already do?
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So what will android wear bring that the gear2 can't already do?
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Maps maybe
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juiceppc said:
GG2's hardware is better than the Gear 1 however the software is way limited compared to Null or the other options you can do with the gear. IMHO.
Once Android or Null or Android Wear is on the Gear 2 then it will be the best smartwatch but until then it's just the best hardware.
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Remember its still a fresh OS . In time we will see development. But honestly I had the gear 1 for a week decided to switch to the gear 2 . Null rom os cool and all but dont really see the need to root a watch . Battery life is way more important. And mind you I pretty much hack or mod anything hackable. From phone to my pc. Which benefit me and save me money but a watch on the other hand can do alot on its own. But we are entitled to our opinion. Price is steep though lol.
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diamantericos said:
Remember its still a fresh OS . In time we will see development. But honestly I had the gear 1 for a week decided to switch to the gear 2 . Null rom os cool and all but dont really see the need to root a watch . Battery life is way more important. And mind you I pretty much hack or mod anything hackable. From phone to my pc. Which benefit me and save me money but a watch on the other hand can do alot on its own. But we are entitled to our opinion. Price is steep though lol.
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Personally, I think switching to Tizen was a mistake. Time will tell. As it is, the application selection is abysmal for a smart watch that's effectively been out for 8 months. And the quality/functionality of many apps is even worse. Just read some of the reviews. But I still love the Gear watches and think we are at the cusp of some pretty exciting developments within the next few years. When Apple releases the iwatch, that's when the technology is really going to heat up between the giants.
I agree Tizen was a mistake....because now I think they will be pressured into switching to Android Wear! This will really confuse and dilute the developer community
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Personally, I think switching to Tizen was a mistake. Time will tell. As it is, the application selection is abysmal for a smart watch that's effectively been out for 8 months. And the quality/functionality of many apps is even worse. Just read some of the reviews. But I still love the Gear watches and think we are at the cusp of some pretty exciting developments within the next few years. When Apple releases the iwatch, that's when the technology is really going to heat up between the giants.
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8 months??? Gear 2 is released just about a month ago.
Gear 1 runs android and soo will be updated to Tizen. Test builds has started sooo
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It begins:
LG G Watch gets price, release date
Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 29 Apr 2014 22:29 User comments (1)
LG G Watch gets price, release date LG's upcoming G Watch smartwatch has finally been given a release date and price, at least for the European markets.
The watch will be the first to the commercial market using Google's Android Wear operating system for wearables when it hits in June. The watch has been priced at €199 for Europe, with an expected $199 price tag for the U.S., as well.
LG's new endeavor features a rectangular face, a 1.65-inch screen and 4GB internal storage.
Among the specs and features we know about is the fact that the device will have an "always-on" screen, will be dust and water proof and will be available in both black and champagne gold.
Android Wear, introduced by Google earlier this year, is built around the Google Now user interface and includes access to Google Maps and built-in voice controls.
Jeshter2000 said:
8 months??? Gear 2 is released just about a month ago.
Gear 1 runs android and soo will be updated to Tizen. Test builds has started sooo
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I said "effectively." To the average consumer, they don't know from Tizen to Android to Playschool. All they know is that the 2 (the new version of the 1) is light on apps.
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I have a Gear 1 and just got a Gear 2 four days ago--I've been playing with it a lot.
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There's your problem... stop playing with it! Good grief, its a watch. Is your smartphone so bad that you are trying to replace it with the Gear?
So Android Wear is heavily developed around Google Now which is not availanle in my Native language
What would be de benefit for me to have such a device??
Martin
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jonstatt said:
I agree Tizen was a mistake....because now I think they will be pressured into switching to Android Wear! This will really confuse and dilute the developer community
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they won't be pressured into anything, all samsung phones are moving to Tizen as well... possibly not all, but the galaxy S series is.
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I have a Gear 1 and just got a Gear 2 four days ago--I've been playing with it a lot. So far, I like the 1 better. Tizen may be a great OS but it has limited support/development compared to Android Wear. I can't (yet) side load apps and will likely never be able to use Wondershare MobileGo as I did with the 1. My ebay notifications don't work as they did flawlessly on the 1. The 2's vibrate is very weak even on the strong setting. Battery life is much better on the 2 but I never minded charging once a night. While I'm sure there is a CPU speed difference, I haven't noticed it at any significant rate. As far as looks go, I personally liked the quirkiness of the 1. It gave it personality. Having the home button on the front is more intrusive than on the side as it was on the 1, particularly since there's no lock screen. It was also nice to swipe down on the screen to get to the camera or whatever--now I have to hit the button twice.
The media hype made the 2 sound like it was the second coming. For me, it is far from being ready for prime time. In truth, the 2 is a version 1 with the obligatory bugs that will almost certainly be worked out in the near future. For those who have the patience to wait for new firmware, roots, etc. It will probably be a great device. I'll probably give it a few more weeks as I really want to like it.
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I´m agree with your and my neo´s will come back to amazon, too! I have the first sonyericsson mbw-100, across the new other sony liveview (a disaster) , the gear original and de new gear 2 neo, and I´m thinking to return it and the the moto actv or wait to moto 360, even I can recover my old gear it was the best of all and almost I can flash and use the customised rom, till get a new one.
New OS and coming from samsung what stopped me from getting SG2 , samsung dont really care about updating software more than making more devices to sell, thats why my next device will be nexus. they make Great hardware but updating/improve software is their last priority.
Its not about rooting or pushing apps if its use android , but they dont fix many bugs , so if ya in android you may find devs to do it, but as new OS , few will find
Android are on Top, porting from other devices and making your device as what you want, samsung going wrong way by trying to get its own OS to be like Apple, will fail like nokia symbian i guess
mjrshark said:
New OS and coming from samsung what stopped me from getting SG2 , samsung dont really care about updating software more than making more devices to sell, thats why my next device will be nexus. they make Great hardware but updating/improve software is their last priority.
Its not about it rooting or pushing apps if its use android , but they dont fix many bugs , so if ya in android you may find devs to do it, but as new OS , few will find
Android are on Top, porting from other devices and making your device as what you want, samsung going wrong way by trying to get its own OS to be like Apple, will fail like nokia symbian i guess
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After using the G2 for another week, I've got most everything worked out. All alerts are working and I've kind of settled into it. I now like it better than the G1 in many respects. Most likely when the LG Android wear or something better is released, I'll sell the G2 and get something else. There's just too little support for Tizen and the apps aren't flying into the store. At least with Android you didn't have to depend on the store and could side load.
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So what will android wear bring that the gear2 can't already do?
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Google Maps and Google Now. Both pretty huge as Google Now is far faster and more powerful than Samsung's solution. I'd have bought the Gear 2 today if Samsung had gone Android Wear. My experience with proprietary Samsung solutions such as "S-note" is that its sucks and it will continue to suck.
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It begins:
LG G Watch gets price, release date
Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 29 Apr 2014 22:29 User comments (1)
LG G Watch gets price, release date LG's upcoming G Watch smartwatch has finally been given a release date and price, at least for the European markets.
The watch will be the first to the commercial market using Google's Android Wear operating system for wearables when it hits in June. The watch has been priced at €199 for Europe, with an expected $199 price tag for the U.S., as well.
LG's new endeavor features a rectangular face, a 1.65-inch screen and 4GB internal storage.
Among the specs and features we know about is the fact that the device will have an "always-on" screen, will be dust and water proof and will be available in both black and champagne gold.
Android Wear, introduced by Google earlier this year, is built around the Google Now user interface and includes access to Google Maps and built-in voice controls.
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LG G with Android Wear only $199 US? Unless the quality is a complete crapfest sign me up. Wish it had a camera but for Google Now and Maps I can live without a camera.
mitchellvii said:
Google Maps and Google Now. Both pretty huge as Google Now is far faster and more powerful than Samsung's solution. I'd have bought the Gear 2 today if Samsung had gone Android Wear. My experience with proprietary Samsung solutions such as "S-note" is that its sucks and it will continue to suck.
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LG G with Android Wear only $199 US? Unless the quality is a complete crapfest sign me up. Wish it had a camera but for Google Now and Maps I can live without a camera.
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I had the Turn By Turn app on my Gear 1 and found a major major problem with GPS based apps on a watch! If they don't put a GPS receiver in the watch and your phone is in your pocket....then nothing will work! So if, for example you wanted to have a walking aid in London to find an address, you would have to be holding your phone in your hand anyway!
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Google Now is totally useless in Finland so I'm afraid that Android Wear will be pretty useless if it's Now in a watch.
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Original Gear now has Tizen to Android Downgrade, How far fetched would customizing this proccess to start trying to customize the Android OS to be compatible with the Gear 2 Hardware?
Is it possible, the hardware from a general point of view is not drastically different and both are based on Linux Kernel.
I guess the main question is, to anyone here who understands the intricate details of such a Port:
How possible is it? if at all.
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I'm going to follow this one, as I'm interested in it too.
i was also thinking about this. would be great if android could be ported over to the Gear 2. imaginet the possibilities! Tizen isnt bad, but there isnt much development going for it. Samsung is taking a risk messing with a new OS.
I would make a donation if someone took up this challenge
i just want someone with expert knowledge to give light to if their are physical/hardware specific issues that would make such a port.. impossible or highly unlikely.. i would really like someone to shed light on the matter
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I'm waiting on this as well, would be nice to see Android wear running on the Gear 2.
I've done a little research and its not impossible. But it would take a team of highly skilled devs to get this rolling.
Who knows, someone might be working on this as we speak but just aren't telling us...
i agree the gear 2 has so much potential and this would be a great boost to its abjlities
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This keeps coming up. I'm hoping eventually someone ports Android to the Gear 2... I know there are many steps before that happens. Hopefully it will. The Gear 2 is perfect hardware running the crappy OS. Gear 1 is so so hardware running the BEST OS.
Samsung are jerks for not including Android in Gear 2. I would have bought a couple of them if they did. I'm debating on buying another Gear 1... I would really like to use a custom watch band though...
juiceppc said:
This keeps coming up. I'm hoping eventually someone ports Android to the Gear 2... I know there are many steps before that happens. Hopefully it will. The Gear 2 is perfect hardware running the crappy OS. Gear 1 is so so hardware running the BEST OS.
Samsung are jerks for not including Android in Gear 2. I would have bought a couple of them if they did. I'm debating on buying another Gear 1... I would really like to use a custom watch band though...
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Same here pal, couldnt of said it better myself.
A custom bootloader would be the first step if im not mistaken
Maybe we should get a team assembled on these forums to get to work on it?
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juiceppc said:
This keeps coming up. I'm hoping eventually someone ports Android to the Gear 2... I know there are many steps before that happens. Hopefully it will. The Gear 2 is perfect hardware running the crappy OS. Gear 1 is so so hardware running the BEST OS.
Samsung are jerks for not including Android in Gear 2. I would have bought a couple of them if they did. I'm debating on buying another Gear 1... I would really like to use a custom watch band though...
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Uh crappy os? Why because it is brand new and doesn't have developer support or apps yet? So far tizen has been more memory efficient, less of a resource and battery hog, and overall more responsive than Android was on the gear 1.
Im sure you probably want to run tablet talk and Nova launcher on the gear 2, but let's be honest that experience sucked and was nothing more than a toy. It wasn't actually useful and it destroyed battery. I personally enjoy my 3 days of usage with my gear 2 compared to my 3/4 day usage of my gear 1.
seh6183 said:
Uh crappy os? Why because it is brand new and doesn't have developer support or apps yet? So far tizen has been more memory efficient, less of a resource and battery hog, and overall more responsive than Android was on the gear 1.
Im sure you probably want to run tablet talk and Nova launcher on the gear 2, but let's be honest that experience sucked and was nothing more than a toy. It wasn't actually useful and it destroyed battery. I personally enjoy my 3 days of usage with my gear 2 compared to my 3/4 day usage of my gear 1.
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I also get 3 days of usage on my Gear 1 running Null. Besides those apps you mentioned have you ever heard of an app called Tasker?... You can run it on a gear(running Android) and if you know anything about Tasker you know the endless capabilities it brings...
I stand by my claims that Tizen is crappy. Yes it may be prejudgemental but too bad. Today's mobile environment does not need another OS... We have a few already. Mozilla is trying to make their own OS. And yes that's crappy too... An OS is only as good as it's adoption. And right now iOS and Android are the 2 most adopted. I don't have time to spend another 6 years to bring Tizen up to the speed those 2 OS' are already at. For what...? Yeah battery life is good. What does that OS even do to drain battery....?
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I also get 3 days of usage on my Gear 1 running Null. Besides those apps you mentioned have you ever heard of an app called Tasker?... You can run it on a gear(running Android) and if you know anything about Tasker you know the endless capabilities it brings...
I stand by my claims that Tizen is crappy. Yes it may be prejudgemental but too bad. Today's mobile environment does not need another OS... We have a few already. Mozilla is trying to make their own OS. And yes that's crappy too... An OS is only as good as it's adoption. And right now iOS and Android are the 2 most adopted. I don't have time to spend another 6 years to bring Tizen up to the speed those 2 OS' are already at. For what...? Yeah battery life is good. What does that OS even do to drain battery....?
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Are you honestly getting 3 days using null? I used null and could hard make it through a day, if at all. I'm curious, what do you use Tasker for on the gear 1?
He meant gear 2... read the previous replies
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He meant gear 2... read the previous replies
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Huh?
I must say conceptually I have been reading about Tizen and I think the OS has a very interesting future and I dont think its a bad OS or a bad choice for the Gear ... that being said the Sdk is in its early stages, Many Tizen fetures and not available, the current market status is horrendous.. and more people, I think have more experiance developing for Android.
Personally I find that creating an app with android studio a million times easier and more cohesive, then using Tizen wearable IDE, the limited fubctionallity of both the OS and IDE due to its not long ago releae for wearables.
The IDE its self ( in my opinion) has terrible Integragion of Tizen for Wearable...
So for now porting Apps from android to android is obviously easier
It would be interested to get a working on port of Android wearable.
All in all, for the time being having android would yield much more apps, customization, functionality and cross device compatability. but like I said this maybe true for the time being....
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Yes 3 days Gear 1 running Null. I do power it off at night though as I dont wear it to bed. But I do not charge it. Also motion power on is enabled. My display brightness is set at 2.
Hi Guys,
i just bought the Gear 2 a couple of days ago.
its a nice device, good hardware but bad software.
2 days later i saw The Gear Live with Android Wear and Google Now! on Google I/O,
Somehow i feel ripped-Off by Samsung.
the S Voice is really bad Compared to Google Now!
If you feel the same. And want to see Android Wear Ported to the Gear 2 please leave a Vote And Reply.
How many thread have to be made and clutter this section . Read before you post it's a rule. You bought it 2 days ago then you can take it back . And buy the gear live . Simple . I mean it's only been a day since wear was announced. In 2 days you haven't had time to experience tizen your just following everyone else who complain about it. Tizen is a good OS . Not for everyone but is good. I myself wouldn't mind wear but in good time .
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diamantericos said:
How many thread have to be made and clutter this section . Read before you post it's a rule. You bought it 2 days ago then you can take it back . And buy the gear live . Simple . I mean it's only been a day since wear was announced. In 2 days you haven't had time to experience tizen your just following everyone else who complain about it. Tizen is a good OS . Not for everyone but is good. I myself wouldn't mind wear but in good time .
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in 2 days i know already the device architecture inside out... and i used it allready to make 32 phone calls, 60 messages. received lots of notifications on it.
and i already made an App for it that is on sale on the Samsung Apps Store. check it out if you want.
and Voided my warranty
2 day are enough time for a person that knows where to look :cyclops:
its good... but is it good Enough??
i just want to know what others think.. in this early stage
Kaygeee said:
in 2 days i know already the device architecture inside out... and i used it allready to make 32 phone calls, 60 messages. received lots of notifications on it.
and i already made an App for it that is on sale on the Samsung Apps Store. check it out if you want.
and Voided my warranty
2 day are enough time for a person that knows where to look :cyclops:
its good... but is it good Enough??
i just want to know what others think.. in this early stage
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That's a pretty ridiculous statement. How old are you? Android Wear was announced months ago and it has also been published in many media circles that Samsung was also on board starting perhaps 1 month ago to release their Android Wear variant.
First of all the Gear is a lot more nuanced for anyone to say that they've gotten the gist of understanding it's full potential in a mere 2 days. It's a new platform hence it's more than meets the eye . That's like me buying the Pebble knowing that it is extremely rudimentary in it's functionality and saying after 1 day that it's garbage. I'd still need at least a week to say that. That is why paid reviewers never release their final draft before spending sufficient time with any new device. (From what I've heard the Pebble is very buggy not well built. No Siri in sight. Yet the media raves about it gathering all the lemmings to spread the gospel.) Samsung has really dared to innovate well ahead of anybody else. They should be given a little credit & respect.
The Svoice is excellent for texting, reminders, calling my contacts, note taking with about a 95% accuracy rate. The media player is phenomenal and when it's combined with the free app Launcher from the gear store I can't imagine a better setup. Notifications are superb. Battery life is great. Camera is very useful when I need to take a visual note of a label or whatever. Customization of the navigation layout. Not to mention the developing platform of apps I use on a regular basis that are amazing when it comes to adding awesome functionality (Omelet app to share quick pics with my wife who owns a gear as well. Fleksy to type messages when it's too noisy)
To the statement of voiding your warranty in 2 days. Who does that? The Tizen SDK is there for any one to use. It's fairly simple and doesn't make you an expert on a platform because you've written a basic app. The list of things that you've given is an inherent part of any device like an Iphone or any smart device. I would argue that because you've done those things on those platforms doesn't make you an engineer.
So I ask you go back and watch the Google I/O event again and keep in mind that the Android Wear has ripped off many features from the Gear. Even the hardware requirements are mimicked from the Samsung Gear and Galaxy platform. I honestly sorta like it myself (the Wear Op system). However navigating that thing is gonna be a nightmare. There is room for improvement on it as well just like the Gear's Tizen and credit must be given when it's due. Kaygeee it takes these companies a long time to get these things right. Enjoy the times we're living in. Imagine how awful the 70's, 80's and 90's were when in came to tech. 300 Bucks is not a lot to spend in order to be on the cutting edge.
Like the previous commentor to your statement said, return your device back to wherever you bought it or sell it on Ebay/Craigslist. I for one am going to see how things develop with Android Wear, however I can proudly say that I've enjoyed everyday spent with my Samsung Gear. If I ultimately move on to the Android Wear devices after 3 months of Gear use. I like many other happy Gear owners have no regrets. What other capable powerhouse smart watches were released in bulk within the past year? Exactly!
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That's a pretty ridiculous statement. How old are you? Android Wear was announced months ago and it has also been published in many media circles that Samsung was also on board starting perhaps 1 month ago to release their Android Wear variant.
First of all the Gear is a lot more nuanced for anyone to say that they've gotten the gist of understanding it's full potential in a mere 2 days. It's a new platform hence it's more than meets the eye . That's like me buying the Pebble knowing that it is extremely rudimentary in it's functionality and saying after 1 day that it's garbage. I'd still need at least a week to say that. That is why paid reviewers never release their final draft before spending sufficient time with any new device. (From what I've heard the Pebble is very buggy not well built. No Siri in sight. Yet the media raves about it gathering all the lemmings to spread the gospel.) Samsung has really dared to innovate well ahead of anybody else. They should be given a little credit & respect.
The Svoice is excellent for texting, reminders, calling my contacts, note taking with about a 95% accuracy rate. The media player is phenomenal and when it's combined with the free app Launcher from the gear store I can't imagine a better setup. Notifications are superb. Battery life is great. Camera is very useful when I need to take a visual note of a label or whatever. Not to mention the developing platform of apps I use on a regular basis that are amazing when it comes to adding awesome functionality (Omelet app to share quick pics with my wife who owns a gear as well. Fleksy to type messages when it's too noisy)
To the statement of voiding your warranty in 2 days. Who does that? The Tizen SDK is there for any one to use. It's fairly simple and doesn't make you an expert on a platform because you've written a basic app. The list of things that you've given is an inherent part of any device like an Iphone or any smart device. I would argue that because you've done those things on those platforms doesn't make you an engineer.
So I ask you go back and watch the Google I/O event again and keep in mind that the Android Wear has ripped off many features from the Gear. I sorta like it myself. However navigating that thing is gonna be a nightmare. There is room for improvement on it as well just like the Gear's Tizen. It takes these companies a long time to get these things right. Enjoy the times we're living in. Imagine how awful the 70's, 80's and 90's were when in came to tech.
Like the previous com mentor to your statement said return your device back to wherever you bought it or sell it on Ebay/Craigslist. I for one am going to see how things develop with Android Wear, however I can proudly say that I've enjoyed everyday spent with my Samsung Gear.
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I have to agree with the above. Android wear looks like there is almost too much going on. Navigation looks cumbersome. I like being able to tell my device to turn off by pressing a button. I had the original gear and that side button drove me nuts. Having the home button on the front of gear 2 is nice. I can run my watch for 3 days easy taking calls emails texts playing games. Shorting pics of computer tags for work. Would I like to see wear come to gear 2. I'm on the fence. Would I try it ? Yes. Will I go out and get the new watch? No. I feel gear 2 is better built and worth the 300$ gear live isn't worth the 200$
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How old are you?
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Old Enough
hughedee74 said:
To the statement of voiding your warranty in 2 days. Who does that? The Tizen SDK is there for any one to use. It's fairly simple and doesn't make you an expert on a platform because you've written a basic app. doesn't make you an engineer.
So I ask you go back and watch the Google I/O event again and keep in mind that the Android Wear has ripped off many features from the Gear. I sorta like it myself. However navigating that thing is gonna be a nightmare. There is room for improvement on it as well just like the Gear's Tizen. It takes these companies a long time to get these things right. Enjoy the times we're living in. Imagine how awful the 70's, 80's and 90's were when in came to tech.
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I'm no expert... but from my point of view the Room for improvement on the Tizen S-voice is a lot.
compared to Google Now! which comes on a similar device released only couple of months after Gear 2 release
and why would i imagine the 70's, 80's and 90's when we live in 2014 my friend times change fast
like i said its good... but is it good enough with the young Tizen on it? how would it be with Android wear on it? is that going to bring out more functional potential.
I don't want to sell it. ill keep it around and wait for more improvement. or a chance to Port Android wear to it.
But in the moment i want to know how much people want to see The Android Wear on the Gear 2. i think I'm not the only one, thats why i made this Poll.
Kaygeee said:
Old Enough
I'm no expert... but from my point of view the Room for improvement on the Tizen S-voice is a lot.
compared to Google Now! which comes on a similar device released only couple of months after Gear 2 release
and why would i imagine the 70's, 80's and 90's when we live in 2014 my friend times change fast
like i said its good... but is it good enough with the young Tizen on it? how would it be with Android wear on it? is that going to bring out more functional potential.
I don't want to sell it. ill keep it around and wait for more improvement. or a chance to Port Android wear to it.
But in the moment i want to know how much people want to see The Android Wear on the Gear 2. i think I'm not the only one, thats why i made this Poll.
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Okay Junior. Now make sure you drink your warm milk, put on your whitety nightys and relax a little. I'm out but thanks for the redundant useless (I mean brilliant) poll. Attempted to spit some knowledge at you but your rebuttals indicate it'll be a lost cause. Who needs a healthy substantive debate when we've got Junior around these parts.
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Okay Junior. Now make sure you drink your warm milk, put on your whitety nightys and relax a little. I'm out but thanks for the reduntantly useless post. Attempted to spit some knowledge at you but your rebuttals indicate it'll be a lost cause.
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the milk and whithey nighties.. is for u old man.
its day time here.
so u relax and dont hate please im just a messenger. my poll is for my cause which is not lost yet.
if you like to spit.. spit some of your wise knowledge in direction of porting Android Wear to the Gear 2...:good:
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the milk and whithey nighties.. is for u old man.
its day time here.
so u relax and dont hate please im just a messenger. my poll is for my cause which is not lost yet.
if you like to spit.. spit some of your wise knowledge in direction of porting Android Wear to the Gear 2...:good:
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:laugh:Like you said Junior you're the expert. Sooner or later your rants and complaining will force Samsung to their knees. Certainly now they will port Wear over to the Gear2 right away cause you're Kaygeee. You've been ripped off. You bought a piece of tech and something else is on the horizon. You should have been privy to that info before hand. Your bullet points are sound. You've voided your device within 2 days. Overall you are rational in all of concerns. They'll certainly seek your mercy since you have the power of this poll. Yeah Junior. You can make it happen. We support you!
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:laugh:Like you said Junior you're the expert. Sooner or later your rants and complaining will force Samsung to their knees. Certainly now they will port Wear over to the Gear2 right away cause you're Kaygeee. You've been ripped off. You bought a piece of tech and something else is on the horizon. You should have been privy to that info before hand. Your bullet points are sound. You've voided your device within 2 days. Overall you are rational in all of concerns. They'll certainly seek your mercy since you have the power of this poll. Yeah Junior. You can make it happen. We support you!
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LOL i like your sense of humour your funny.
the vote count is increasing as we speak
Kaygeee Thats Meee sooner or later Samsung is on its Kneee :silly:
maybe we should make a song... and post it on youtube..
i'll record and you rap on my Gear 2. Oeps the video recording time is only 15 seconds bummer.
I sold my gear 2 and bought a gear live for the simple reason that I want a fully functional smart watch to work with Cyanogenmod and not have to rely on the TouchWiz framework, I did enjoy my time with the gear 2 though on Omega rom and if android wear did come out for the gear 2 then I would probably cancel my order but until it's done it's android wear from here on out so I have the flexibility to use it on any rom I choose.
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The main problem with it, and any other Android wear watchs is the 1 day use bit. Sure it's got an always on display but if they're advertising one day use, it probably means less.
Holding for for now until early reports from early adopters.
I like Google Now, but I never use it on my phone. The Gear 2 is giving me all the info I need with a 2.5-3 day battery.
I do also use the cam so gonna need support for that too.
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Also gonna need it to play music from device (For gym), and keep all the health integration.
I just wish I had hangouts on the tizen, and also the ability to use keyboard to reply for those odd rare occasions i need to (so far never but would be a nice to have).
Facebook app to view whats going on and eBay would also be nice.
As of now Tizen is better than Android Wear because of App availability AND UI. Also if your talking about Google now and S-Voice they BOTH need Internet connections to work. Which here in the Philippines is not available everywhere. So I don't really care about that.
I guess yes Samsung will port Android Wear to the Gear 2 but they'll still modify it so it will still work as it works right now.
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As of now Tizen is better than Android Wear because of App availability AND UI. Also if your talking about Google now and S-Voice they BOTH need Internet connections to work. Which here in the Philippines is not available everywhere. So I don't really care about that.
I guess yes Samsung will port Android Wear to the Gear 2 but they'll still modify it so it will still work as it works right now.
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Any kind of voice command is useless to me, it makes you look like a douche in public and if you're not in public just use your phone.
Tizen is growing on me, the music player is good / fine for gym, has cool health sensors and heart rate etc. It works for how i intend to use it.
If i get caught short while in the house away from phone i can still take call on device, dont think talking is on the Wear agenda.
Camera I also use often, very often. It's ideal for a quick snap.
The 3rd party apps are trash, and the forcing to use messaging instead of hangouts is whack, but as I don't intend to reply i just wish the notification showed the whole message.
The music player control is also way better on Tizen, everything on one screen, well thought out, little icons top right from clock face to go back. None of this silly swiping malarkay!
The fact you can send send directly from phone is also very cool!, the music player has plenty of features, favourites etc. it's actually very good. If this is a fitness device the Gear 2 shines.
+1 for android wear
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I feel disappointed by the lack of apps and updates on the gear 2, I was expecting an update to ride on the gear s release.
When I see the diversity of android wear apps compared to that of tizen its just shameful and a lot of the apps that are added on tizen are practically useless and downright tacky.
Its getting to the stage where I'm considering selling the gear 2 to get the moto 360 simply due to the limited capabilities of the Gear apps.
Anyone else feel the same when they check the app market to find themselves disappointed
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I feel disappointed by the lack of apps and updates on the gear 2, I was expecting an update to ride on the gear s release.
When I see the diversity of android wear apps compared to that of tizen its just shameful and a lot of the apps that are added on tizen are practically useless and downright tacky.
Its getting to the stage where I'm considering selling the gear 2 to get the moto 360 simply due to the limited capabilities of the Gear apps.
Anyone else feel the same when they check the app market to find themselves disappointed
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Yes... Is sad, man!
Here, in Brazil, is not even selling gear 2 anymore! Seem like samsung took it out of stores. I dont know!
I have it for almost a month and I will keep it just because is pretty, have a camera, i can make phone calls, with is features that we wont easily see in others smart watches...
But I will NEVER buy a tizen smart watch or phone again! It will die just like bada! Samsung kills it! Samsung dont make an OS plataform interesting for developers and its not easy to put something on samsung store!
I dont beleive we will see any other firmware updates and tizen will die sonner than we expected
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Yes... Is sad, man!
Here, in Brazil, is not even selling gear 2 anymore! Seem like samsung took it out of stores. I dont know!
I have it for almost a month and I will keep it just because is pretty, have a camera, i can make phone calls, with is features that we wont easily see in others smart watches...
But I will NEVER buy a tizen smart watch or phone again! It will die just like bada! Samsung kills it! Samsung dont make an OS plataform interesting for developers and its not easy to put something on samsung store!
I dont beleive we will see any other firmware updates and tizen will die sonner than we expected
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I was hoping to see an update dished out to feature social media and more messaging platforms on the back of the Gear S I thought they might actually have a package of apps ready for release to promote Gear S release but it doesn't seem that way.
Think ill look into selling mine to get a Moto 360, I agree samsung should not have developed their own platform when Android wear will just dominate it and developers will just see it as an effort to develop for tizen aswell.
At the very least I expected a facebook application, but not even that! Only really decent app is Fleksy the others are utter novelty.
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I was hoping to see an update dished out to feature social media and more messaging platforms on the back of the Gear S I thought they might actually have a package of apps ready for release to promote Gear S release but it doesn't seem that way.
Think ill look into selling mine to get a Moto 360, I agree samsung should not have developed their own platform when Android wear will just dominate it and developers will just see it as an effort to develop for tizen aswell.
At the very least I expected a facebook application, but not even that! Only really decent app is Fleksy the others are utter novelty.
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I agree with you...
But I wouldn't recommend the moto 360!
Is just a pretty watch, with a terrible hardware!
Look into the lg watch r or wait for some new!
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I agree with you...
But I wouldn't recommend the moto 360!
Is just a pretty watch, with a terrible hardware!
Look into the lg watch r or wait for some new!
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if an android wear watch comes with a mic and speaker im out too lol
Ah I expected the moto 360 to have a mic and speaker what use is that! Think ill just have to put up with the gear 2 for now probably the best on the market at the current time. Shame samsung has let down its customers with a poor software and slow application development.
They are really neglecting their products as soon as they are released all they think next is "let's get making another asap!" Rather than five tuning their existing ones.
All of the applications are pretty much raw basic and not visually pleasing products that you can tell are just neglected
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if an android wear watch comes with a mic and speaker im out too lol
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I think that's all up to Google and putting the support in to AW to use that hardware. Even the AW watch by Samsung lacks the speaker and ir blaster - oh, I want an AW watch with speaker and ir blaster too.
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I think that's all up to Google and putting the support in to AW to use that hardware. Even the AW watch by Samsung lacks the speaker and ir blaster - oh, I want an AW watch with speaker and ir blaster too.
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That and muli day battery life that tizen can achieve. I am out as well then.
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That and muli day battery life that tizen can achieve. I am out as well then.
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I charge mine every day anyway, All i use is the mic and speaker mostly. The camera too but I could live with out it. Let someone make an AW watch with those and im done with this watch.
I'm planning to buy either a Huawei Watch or a Samsung Gear S2 Classic soon, and the one piece of information I seem to be unable to find is a decent list of what apps are available for each?
Based on watching youtube videos I really prefer the interface on the S2, seems far more intuitive, but I don't want to find myself missing apps that I would find useful...
Anyone got one and find anything missing or know where I can find a list - google is failing me! Having come from Windows Phone to Android recently I dont want to back myself into an app hole again
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-gear-s2/599771-list-apps-work-gear-s2-please-add-here.html
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http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-gear-s2/599771-list-apps-work-gear-s2-please-add-here.html
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So that list is really handy, thanks, but does seem to be 6months old...
Also, it doesnt help me by comparing to what Android Wear has - I havent used either, so I don't know what i'm missing out on if you know what i mean...
e.g. can i do turn by turn directions on wrist with google maps on either device? Can i get Waze running on either device? That article mentions e-mails and messaging with Samsung apps on their phones, what about on my Z5? Do i need to find a third party in that case?
I've updated that Gear s2 list on and off for the last six months, so while it's not comprehensive, it's up to date as far as it goes. I don't have a google wear watch to compare, but unlike Samsung, google let's you browse android wear apps on the web: https://play.google.com/store/apps/category/ANDROID_WEAR
It's generally agreed that android wear has way more apps than Tizen (and that apple has even more apps than Wear.) There's not a lot of agreement about how important that fact is. Some smartwatch users stick mostly to notifications, which are good for things like getting messages and for quick, simple replies; saves you from digging your phone out of your pocket all the time. Others care more about specific apps. The general feeling seems to be that the Gear S2 has maybe the best hardware and interface (and many like its looks), but that apps for the Gear S2 are a weak link. So, for example, the Gear S2 has a couple of options for turn-by-turn directions, one that comes with the watch called Here maps, and another 3rd party app called Gear Navigator; both are a little funky in my experience. Over on Android Wear, I'm guessing you'll have many more options to try from. On the other hand, the only circumstance in which I've found watch-based turn by turn directions useful is on a bicycle; in a car, the tiny screen just doesn't match up to having a full-sized smartphone screen on your dash. (I'll have to let someone else with experience let you know about what works and what doesn't with a Z5.)
Thanks for that. I had an MS band before and basically used it for notifications and telling the time!
I guess I'm worried that there will be some app I realise I want and can't get on Tizen , which knowing how that felt on WP is a concern...
But as you say, Gear S2 classic is the best looking smart watch out there (imho) for the price (huawei is nearly £100 more) so might be worth the shot since the interface appeals much more...
Hopefully someone with one and a Z5(or anything but a Samsung) can tune in and tell me how crippling it is to not be on Samsung's infrastructure
I've just sold my Huawei Watch and am currently using a s2 classic, my thoughts....
never installed any apps on my Huawei barring watch faces and an app to ajdust screen on time, all I needed and I guess wanted was the stock apps.
Gear s2 is IMO a better watch and the interface is so intuitive, of it could swap S voice for Google then I'd be even happier , so far the s2 does all I need and I love the extra run time I get compared to android wear.
I also have a gear S running biktors wear port so I still have option to use android wear whenever I choose.
BTW I got my s2 classic on eBay for £110 so this is based on my thoughts and this price point.
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I've just sold my Huawei Watch and am currently using a s2 classic, my thoughts....
never installed any apps on my Huawei barring watch faces and an app to ajdust screen on time, all I needed and I guess wanted was the stock apps.
Gear s2 is IMO a better watch and the interface is so intuitive, of it could swap S voice for Google then I'd be even happier , so far the s2 does all I need and I love the extra run time I get compared to android wear.
I also have a gear S running biktors wear port so I still have option to use android wear whenever I choose.
BTW I got my s2 classic on eBay for £110 so this is based on my thoughts and this price point.
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Thank you for the insight. Are you running with a galaxy phone or something else?
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Honestly I don't think either are worth their retail price, be patient and grab a mint 2nd hand one and let someone else take the hit.
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It should be no problem getting the S2 to link to a Z5, I am running on a Nexus 6 with a CM-based custom ROM with no problems. Apparently, you can do more with an S2 and a Samsung phone but I am not missing anything I want.
I try to keep Google out of as much of my life as possible so the idea that Tizen is not integrated into the Google infra-structure is a plus for me. I know I am in the minority but you couldn't pay me to use Android Wear (or Apple for that matter).
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Well, despite leaning towards the Gear I just got a deal on Prime Day for the Huawei for under £200 so have sumped for that. Figure if I don't like it I can probably break even on selling on anyway
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I'm planning to buy either a Huawei Watch or a Samsung Gear S2 Classic soon, and the one piece of information I seem to be unable to find is a decent list of what apps are available for each?
Based on watching youtube videos I really prefer the interface on the S2, seems far more intuitive, but I don't want to find myself missing apps that I would find useful...
Anyone got one and find anything missing or know where I can find a list - google is failing me! Having come from Windows Phone to Android recently I dont want to back myself into an app hole again
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I think Tizen will improve in future and will add some best stuffs like android. I read here (Tizen vs android difference - .mindxmaster.com/2017/01/samsung-tizen-vs-google-android-compaision.html) Tizen is using HTML 5 apps and has better flexibility than android. Android has lots of apps in Google play store, which is an advantage over Tizen.
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I think Tizen will improve in future and will add some best stuffs like android.
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I have the Gear1, Gear2, GearS2 and use Tizen for about 3 years. I think I can count on the finger on ONE hand the new apps for Tizen since 3 years, so.......
So my question is basically will the future watch (or watches) from Samsung will be also using the Tizen system and will Samsung continue to support and the devices?
Or will it be like in other experiments where after a couple of versions the company moved to a different system and abandoned the old one.
I am asking this because i have been burned before with the HTC HD2 (LEO) that came with win6.5 and lost support after about a year (give or take) luck would have it that it could be outfitted with android and be used for a few more years but i don't think that this will be the case with watches.
So do you guys think that there is a future to Tizen and that the app store will continue to grow and improve and Samsung will continue to update the software? or will it switch for example to androidware next year and we might be stuck with a 400$ unsupported outdated watch that gets no new apps what so ever. (windows even closed down the app store for the win 6.5 at some point)..........
Hope to hear your thoughts o the matter before I go and buy one
It's tough to say... We're in a very weird spot. I would guess the Gear S3 is probably the best selling wearable, most desirable and IMO, most well rounded smartwatch. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like developers are knocking the door down to create apps. The scary part is, the S2 has been out for a while and it doesn't seem like much has been accomplished. Let's hope that these developers see the value in the S3 and we can get some basic apps added.
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It's tough to say... We're in a very weird spot. I would guess the Gear S3 is probably the best selling wearable, most desirable and IMO, most well rounded smartwatch. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like developers are knocking the door down to create apps. The scary part is, the S2 has been out for a while and it doesn't seem like much has been accomplished. Let's hope that these developers see the value in the S3 and we can get some basic apps added.
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Tizen is an experiment - not much promotion by Samsung. The watch is a beautiful piece of hardware but as usual, Samsung is being devious - there is NOT 4 Gb of memory available but only 1.5 Gb - the rest is taken up by bloat - watchfaces that many won't use, S-Health that cannot be removed, etc.
Typical - they think they know what we want and never listen to customers - IMHO, these watches will (are?) not gaining market traction and are a solutoion looking for a problem to solve. Maybe some folks just want notifications, SMS, Email and not how many steps they walked today?
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Tizen is an experiment - not much promotion by Samsung. The watch is a beautiful piece of hardware but as usual, Samsung is being devious - there is NOT 4 Gb of memory available but only 1.5 Gb - the rest is taken up by bloat - watchfaces that many won't use, S-Health that cannot be removed, etc.
Typical - they think they know what we want and never listen to customers - IMHO, these watches will (are?) not gaining market traction and are a solutoion looking for a problem to solve. Maybe some folks just want notifications, SMS, Email and not how many steps they walked today?
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I've had my S3 for a few weeks now and love it but I have to admit that after having several Android watches, the support for apps is so much better. With the S3, you are pretty much stuck using all Samsung apps which sucks.
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Tizen is an experiment - not much promotion by Samsung. The watch is a beautiful piece of hardware but as usual, Samsung is being devious - there is NOT 4 Gb of memory available but only 1.5 Gb - the rest is taken up by bloat - watchfaces that many won't use, S-Health that cannot be removed, etc.
Typical - they think they know what we want and never listen to customers - IMHO, these watches will (are?) not gaining market traction and are a solutoion looking for a problem to solve. Maybe some folks just want notifications, SMS, Email and not how many steps they walked today?
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Unfortunately it is not just Samsung that does crap like that (forced apps etc). Even Pebble had watch faces that you couldn't remove if you wanted. Most every phone/tablet has bloat you can't remove. I don't understand this mentality and why they won't let the user make their own decisions, I guess they think we are all too dumb to know what we want. Maybe users aren't vocal enough and since no one complains they keep doing what they do thinking everyone likes it.
I have an issue with the S3 where when not connected to phone I get that distracting watch icon that ruins the look of watchfaces and can't be turned off. I guess Samsung never thought anyone would use the watch without being tethered to the phone constantly even though they allow it to be used standalone. I suppose they also never thought putting a big white icon over the 12:00 position on all faces would bother anyone, go figure.
As far as Tizen who knows I guess it depends on how easy it is to port to it from android and how popular it gets. Apple watch OS is only Apple and they succeeded being a separate OS.
I have been wondering the same. Whats the future of this platform? The gear s2 has been out for a while, and still pretty much the same. I mean not even google has any apps for tizen. What if this is a dying platform? What if once android wear gets next big release, samsung decides, oh we are done with tizen?
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I have been wondering the same. Whats the future of this platform? The gear s2 has been out for a while, and still pretty much the same. I mean not even google has any apps for tizen. What if this is a dying platform? What if once android wear gets next big release, samsung decides, oh we are done with tizen?
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Welcome to Blackberry OS10 and Windows Mobile!
That is exactly my point...
I mean the watch looks beautiful and I think it's one of the best looking smart watches out there, and I also love the bezel use.
I had experience with Windows Mobile and Windows 8 rt and this is why I am not buying the watch yet.
I don't buy and don't intend to buy a new watch every year, I replace watches only when needed or every several years and I am kinda of scared on spending almost 400€ ( I live in germany) on a watch that will become irrelevant and not useful in a year or less.
Just like the HTC hd2 was replaced by an android version after less then a year ....
A big problem I see is our community is very scattered. Basically, I migrate between xda and android central. I've had android wear and after having this watch, I really don't want to go back, but unfortunately will have to of the app selection doesn't grow. I use this watch as a standalone sometimes and I need certain apps.
Man i dunno. I guess we probably have to just wait and see. If samsung sees money in this thing, they might invest enough. And who knows. Wish we had a way to attract developers for tizen.
Thank you all for the answers
I guess that at least for now i will remain on the fence.....
I cant afford and nor do I want to spend almost 400Euro's on a watch that I will need to replace in a year because of lack of support and lack of development......