*WARNING*
DO NOT SUBMERGE YOUR SAMSUNG GALAXY S5 WITH THIS WIRELESS RECEIVER PAD INSTALLED. I HAVE TESTED IT AND IT DOES LEAK.
IF YOU DO, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED ABOUT THE POSSIBLE OUTCOME
Water death thread --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741481
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For the Note 3, I purchased about 3 different receiver pads over the course of it's life. Every pad pretty much had it's own set of pros and cons. For the S5, this is the product I started with. If I purchase any other ones, I'll add to this.
Cost: Around $7-$8 shipped
Link: http://goo.gl/JcDc6t (generic search results... if you want the one in this video, just match it up with the pictures... auctions start and end frequently)
Kind of hard these days to film with my daughter around, but it's better than going to work and coming home and hiding in the basement. I do apologize about that.
Overall assessment for you guys is that it does an okay job with charging. Exactly what you'd expect with wireless charging if you're familiar with it. NFC gets a one out of four stars though. Don't expect to enjoy using NFC while using it. If you do get it to work, it's because you really fiddled around a lot with it.
Finally a review, thanks. 1A charging is more than decent i'd say. my old HTC wall adapter chargers are 1A anyway.
Obviously everyone should assume water resistance is void with 3rd party qi receivers. I personally don't use NFC for any reason so there is no downside for me. but yea, i think that's about it, i just wanted to see it actually working and i appreciate it. very straight fwd. cheers. :good:
chillsen said:
Finally a review, thanks. 1A charging is more than decent i'd say. my old HTC wall adapter chargers are 1A anyway.
Obviously everyone should assume water resistance is void with 3rd party qi receivers. I personally don't use NFC for any reason so there is no downside for me. but yea, i think that's about it, i just wanted to see it actually working and i appreciate it. very straight fwd. cheers. :good:
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Welcome.... I agree. I should add a blurb about the IP67 cert and the effects of the QI receiver. :good:
I treat my phone normally, haven't had a phone with ip certification until this S5, and never had a phone that went swimming from my very first phone, so I don't care about the ip67.
What would happen if you had the phone plugged in charging and you set it on the wireless charger?
Zombie apocalypse
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Seriously I don't know, just talking ****.
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What would happen if you had the phone plugged in charging and you set it on the wireless charger?
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That's a good question actually because if you have the phone hooked up to do data transfer and placed it on the wireless base then you would have the same scenario. There must be some intelligence in the phone to either cope with a charge from two locations or to disable one if two are present.
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That's a good question actually because if you have the phone hooked up to do data transfer and placed it on the wireless base then you would have the same scenario. There must be some intelligence in the phone to either cope with a charge from two locations or to disable one if two are present.
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I'll try this sometime this weekend.
chillsen said:
Finally a review, thanks. 1A charging is more than decent i'd say. my old HTC wall adapter chargers are 1A anyway.
Obviously everyone should assume water resistance is void with 3rd party qi receivers. I personally don't use NFC for any reason so there is no downside for me. but yea, i think that's about it, i just wanted to see it actually working and i appreciate it. very straight fwd. cheers. :good:
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I would use NFC if more people took ISIS payments. Most of the time they don't. If they have an NFC compatible POS it's either shut off or not allowed.
I think it has to average out to 640mA. From what I've read the kernel doesn't allow for higher current. Then again according to this app it was charging about 1% a minute which was the same as the charger...
chrisngrod said:
Welcome.... I agree. I should add a blurb about the IP67 cert and the effects of the QI receiver. :good:
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How is water resistance comprimised with the Qi receiver? Does the receiver stay inside the sealing of existing cover?
yoonus said:
How is water resistance comprimised with the Qi receiver? Does the receiver stay inside the sealing of existing cover?
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Well I think in my blurb I noted that it is not recommended to submerge the phone afterwards. I would imagine that officially any company that says it doesn't effect it would have to get the whole system re certified.
It is within the boundaries of the seal. Who's going to be brave enough to submerge for 5 minutes and see if any water seeps in? Don't volunteer me please. I might do a 2 second plunge and keep on going from there... 5 seconds, 10 seconds, 60 seconds and 2 min.
Does wireless charging coil affects wireless resistance?
SandeepEmekar said:
Does wireless charging coil affects wireless resistance?
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The answer is very likely yes If you are not using a official Samsung accessory.
Alright. I did a test run with the QI receiver pad in. My wife was not happy about this at all. She hasn't even tested the phone without the pad in.
My video will consist of a dunk test, 1 min, 2 min, and 5 min submerging. In addition to that the wireless battery pack will be submerged in a zip lock bag. If all goes well the phone should be able to charge while underwater. That should be the ultimate A OKAY right?
WARNING
DO NOT SUBMERGE YOUR PHONE WITH THIS INSTALLED
I wanted to get this notice out before any of the video detailing what exactly happened. Just in case it can save someone. Details will follow shortly.
Video is below:
Starts at 1:16. You can hear the audio get worse.
Details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52421677
I wanted to separate out the details before someone kills their daily phone and is left with nothing or has to pay a huge deductible.
I like this charger
cos it claims to charge just like the wire
has anyone tried it ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFhhPQxnLuc
or are there any others that claim Fast Charging ?
Thanks
Fast charging related to Charging efficiency. I find this one claimed as >73%. The price is also good, only $6.49 http://bit.ly/1pm8TCs
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I'm curious if anyone has purchased any kind of wireless charging unit for their Galaxy S 4. I think they are a neat idea but haven't tried one yet.
If so, can you recommend the brand you prefer and perhaps a link to it?
I'm curious to know if it charges at a manageable rate and is it efficient?
I have considered coughing up some good money on a couple of them if they work but don't want to go in blindly and haven't seen many reviews on them.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Wireless-Charger-inductive/dp/B00CRWKNME
Some of them like this seem to maybe be worth it.
They are slow chargers.
I've read something about it here.
There are options out there. A lot cheaper.
Search this specific forum and you'll find the info.
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I personally use my Zen wireless pads (mainly cause I've had them for a while) and just bought a wireless Insert from mobile fun. Works great. Yes its a slowish charge but can full charge over night while sleep np.
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Charges at a rate about 1/3 the rate of the 2A charger (650mA). But it charges over night no problem. It's more economical to buy the insert and then buy a charging pad. Inserts usually run ~$20, with chargers running $30ish.
xreflection said:
Charges at a rate about 1/3 the rate of the 2A charger (650mA). But it charges over night no problem. It's more economical to buy the insert and then buy a charging pad. Inserts usually run ~$20, with chargers running $30ish.
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Swanseatom said:
I personally use my Zen wireless pads (mainly cause I've had them for a while) and just bought a wireless Insert from mobile fun. Works great. Yes its a slowish charge but can full charge over night while sleep np.
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Yeah, that's the kind of info i'm looking for. I am interested in this because when I'm at work [I work for long periods of time] I'd like this to keep it charged. I often will pick my phone up to answer a text, or shoot an email or small things like check the weather quickly, or change my song on Spotify and then i'd like to set it back down to continue to charge.
I won't be using it for a regular charger, per se.
I'll just have to look into buying the insert and pad, seemingly cheaper than the options I was recommended previously.
I thought about this too, but read that they can heat up the phones charging this way and sometimes won't stop charging when full?
yes i have a insert receiver i paid £8 plus £17 for base on flea bay and it works perfectly ,i leave it on over night it charges 100% ,no heat or beeps.i am looking for a pad for my car now.
Some base stations aren't as good as others and will cause the device to heat up. Technically, they all cause the device to heat up but so does plugging it in.
I have three different base stations. The Samsung base, one from ebay(has a qi logo on it) and one from aliexpress(just has a wifi logo on it, and claims 1000 or 1500 output). The ebay one works very well, but makes an annoying loud beep when the phone is placed on it. The aliexpress base works allright but does cause the phone to heat up more than the other base stations.
The samsung base works fine, no annoying beep. But...it didn't come with a power cable so you have to use the cable that came with your phone to plug it up (in fact, it recommends a 2A charger for it). The other two both came with their own power cables.
I've not done tests to see what rates each of the base stations charge at but there's no noticeable difference.
Unfortunately, none of the wireless charging items I purchased have links to them anymore and I can't find comparable items. I wish I could just provide you with the companies I used that gave me the best results, but I just can't track them down.
kudosmog said:
Some base stations aren't as good as others and will cause the device to heat up. Technically, they all cause the device to heat up but so does plugging it in.
I have three different base stations. The Samsung base, one from ebay(has a qi logo on it) and one from aliexpress(just has a wifi logo on it, and claims 1000 or 1500 output). The ebay one works very well, but makes an annoying loud beep when the phone is placed on it. The aliexpress base works allright but does cause the phone to heat up more than the other base stations.
The samsung base works fine, no annoying beep. But...it didn't come with a power cable so you have to use the cable that came with your phone to plug it up (in fact, it recommends a 2A charger for it). The other two both came with their own power cables.
I've not done tests to see what rates each of the base stations charge at but there's no noticeable difference.
Unfortunately, none of the wireless charging items I purchased have links to them anymore and I can't find comparable items. I wish I could just provide you with the companies I used that gave me the best results, but I just can't track them down.
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If you are willing to do a little tweaking with the ebay one, you can rip off the top cover and cut off the speaker that makes the beep. I did that with mine and it stopped the beeping.
Is there not a kernel to increase the charging current on the wireless pads? There was for note 2 (neak kernel)?
I know that everyone is writing Powermat off as a failure but I just got an aftermarket insert for the S4 from a seller on Amazon - the reason why I chose Powermat is because I can use it in Starbucks and McDonald's - no real point in having wireless charging at home anyway. Can't do links but I guess if you search for 'pma thin receiver galaxy s4' you'll find it.
Sorry to bump such an old-ish thread, but I just got a QI patch for my S4, had it on my S3 and loved it. Works great and no issues whatsoever. Gets a tad bit hot but that's pretty much it. It charges at a decent rate.
I just picked up an S4 a few days ago that came with the wireless charging back. I am using a fatboy charging pillow that has the Nokia DT-900 plate in it that I got last year with my DNA. I've used several of the charging plates and they all work well and charge around 1A. What inserts is everyone talking about? What I have is the replacement back cover that includes the qi coil. It's slightly thicker and my issue has been finding a case that fits well over it. Does anyone have any recommendations?
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The case I have on my phone fits perfectly. Its uhm, a bumper kind of case, I'll try to take some pictures to show you.
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I had been using the Nokia wireless transmitter before with my Note2. Just went on Amazon and ordered a $13 receiver and a UAG case. All works perfectly. Slight bulge on the battery cover but not noticeable with the UAG case on it. There is a slight weight difference but you have to expect that because the receiver is a copper coil.
Charging is slower than USB but perfect for night time recharging. =)
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I'm using the official Samsung qi charger, a bit slow, but real convenient, love it, the battery door is a bit thicker so it won't fit my cases... Besides that all good!
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FourPointedFreak said:
I'm curious if anyone has purchased any kind of wireless charging unit for their Galaxy S 4. I think they are a neat idea but haven't tried one yet.
If so, can you recommend the brand you prefer and perhaps a link to it?
I'm curious to know if it charges at a manageable rate and is it efficient?
I have considered coughing up some good money on a couple of them if they work but don't want to go in blindly and haven't seen many reviews on them.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Wireless-Charger-inductive/dp/B00CRWKNME
Some of them like this seem to maybe be worth it.
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I have this one but with the pad i want to get the puck one.It works great for me.I even bought one for my boss and she loves it.
http://vivealive.net/WiQiQi-Samsung-S4-Wireless-Receiver-and-Curve-Charger-Set-Black-WQS4CB.htm
xreflection said:
Charges at a rate about 1/3 the rate of the 2A charger (650mA). But it charges over night no problem. It's more economical to buy the insert and then buy a charging pad. Inserts usually run ~$20, with chargers running $30ish.
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I guess you're talking about the official Samsung Qi transmitter. My experience with the LG WCP-300 is similar. I tested the S4 with the official Samsung receiver back and got 640mA current input with 4 different power supplies (2.1, 1.8, 1.2, & 1 amp).
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gnik luap said:
I guess you're talking about the official Samsung Qi transmitter. My experience with the LG WCP-300 is similar. I tested the S4 with the official Samsung receiver back and got 640mA current input with 4 different power supplies (2.1, 1.8, 1.2, & 1 amp).
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Nope, none of the things I'm using at OEM. All after market. I think I mistyped and meant to say 640mA.
Ferradinho said:
What inserts is everyone talking about? What I have is the replacement back cover that includes the qi coil. It's slightly thicker and my issue has been finding a case that fits well over it. Does anyone have any recommendations?
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I just noticed you didn't get an answer yet. The inserts are three Qi receivers that look like thin patches of plastic with very thin copper wires in them. There are many on eBay & Amazon, but really they all look much the same. Prices seem to run from around $12 to just under $30. Some are known to interfere with the NFC function. All seem to create a slight bulge when you place them against the battery contacts and put the back cover on. Some listings give the thickness in millimeters.
Typical:
http://www.amazon.com/GMYLE-Standar...id=1378662447&sr=8-15&keywords=s4+qi+receiver
I don't know about real cases, but I got a bumper for $6.50 that I like:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BWZJOB8/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The only apparent flaw is that the charging back cover is barely recessed into the bumper. No scratches yet, but I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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big samm said:
I'm using the official Samsung qi charger, a bit slow, but real convenient, love it, the battery door is a bit thicker so it won't fit my cases... Besides that all good!
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I'm curious about the amount of power the phone actually receives using the OEM charging back with the OEM Charin pad. Would you mind checking that & posting it here, please? You can use the free app Current Widget from the Play Store, and it'll help me decide between the OEM pad and a generic.
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Maybe I'm expecting too much, but the way I understand Qi wireless charging is you should be able to use any combination of transmitter/receiver you wish and it should just work.
Well, as I'm sure some of you are aware, that does not appear to be the case with the Note 4. I have tried two 3rd party receivers with different bases and have been unable to achieve any sort of consistency.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PUA06TA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OFKS66G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Above are the 3rd party receivers I've tried. You either have to off center the receiver with the base, or find a sweet spot that makes it look like if you so much as sneeze the wrong way the phone will fall off. NOT ideal. Most 3rd party receivers I have looked at employ a similar design.
Or you have a situation like mine where a base just won't work due to alignment issues. This is the case with the iOttie Easy Flex Wireless Car Charging Mount. The coil in the receiver sits too far to the left (screen facing you), and there's no way to align with the coil on the iOttie properly.
Here's the funny part. I have ZERO issues with the OEM Charging Cover. This thing where Qi is supposed to be universal may be true, but there are strings attached. Until there are no strings, I can't see how phone manufacturers can take it seriously...
I hope that the upcoming Galaxy S6 handles this better than that. It looks promising. It wouldn't be the sole reason I switch to it, but I can do a slightly smaller screen, don't necessarily need the pen, but they are nice. I just wish wireless charging was handled better....
I use the OEM Wireless charging cover and a Nokia base. I have had no issues at all. I would stay away from those cheap Chinese adapter coils. They seem very easy to break, they don't fit well with the stock cover, and are more prone to errors. They only sell for a couple dollars in China so don't expect much.
suggest this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LE6X5VU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
3 coils.
vertical and horizontal fine. I do have to position it 1 cm to the right or left from center....but still really easy.
jejunum said:
suggest this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LE6X5VU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
3 coils.
vertical and horizontal fine. I do have to position it 1 cm to the right or left from center....but still really easy.
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I just got a Tylt Vu and have to do the same thing when using the Choetech receiver. If I put it upside down it centers perfectly LOL. Nothing of the sort with OEM. What are you using for a receiver?
craigg1 said:
I use the OEM Wireless charging cover and a Nokia base. I have had no issues at all. I would stay away from those cheap Chinese adapter coils. They seem very easy to break, they don't fit well with the stock cover, and are more prone to errors. They only sell for a couple dollars in China so don't expect much.
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When you're talking about the coils, are you referring to the receiver or the base? OEM covers are made in Vietnam...
Never gonna be as fast as fast charge so till they really step up game it is pointless
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
BACARDILIMON said:
Never gonna be as fast as fast charge so till they really step up game it is pointless
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
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I don't mind that it doesn't charge as fast. That said how can companies like Tylt claim that their chargers can charge just as fast as wired?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DG8NUC8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
From the FAQ page on Tylt's website:
Q: How long does it take to charge my phone with the VU?
A: The VU is designed to provide as much power as your standard USB charger (1 Amp) and will charge as fast as your USB charger as long as your phone is designed to accept that much power.
http://tylt.com/faq/#vu
Granted, Quick Charge 2.0 is most likely not in there, but doesn't that only work up to 50%?
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I don't mind that it doesn't charge as fast. That said how can companies like Tylt claim that their chargers can charge just as fast as wired?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DG8NUC8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
From the FAQ page on Tylt's website:
Q: How long does it take to charge my phone with the VU?
A: The VU is designed to provide as much power as your standard USB charger (1 Amp) and will charge as fast as your USB charger as long as your phone is designed to accept that much power.
http://tylt.com/faq/#vu
Granted, Quick Charge 2.0 is most likely not in there, but doesn't that only work up to 50%?
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Yeah most regular phones. From 6 years ago lol. It a fine print thing and people not knowing their phone.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
diehardbattery said:
When you're talking about the coils, are you referring to the receiver or the base? OEM covers are made in Vietnam...
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I'm referring to the receivers. My experience has been that the OEM covers are more durable than those cheap vinyl covered coils that one mounts behind the stock battery cover.
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BACARDILIMON said:
Never gonna be as fast as fast charge so till they really step up game it is pointless
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
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Wireless charging is not as fast as wired charging but it sure is convenient. I hate having to plug and unplug the phone all day. With wireless charging I just make it a habit to always leave it on the charging pad when I can. That way my phone is always at 100% when I leave. My OEM fast charger is still in the box unused. I got a deal on the Nokia pads a year or so ago and only paid $5 a piece for them direct from AT&T. At that price it's easy to place them in multiple locations such as the living room, bedroom, office, car, etc.
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I'm referring to the receivers. My experience has been that the OEM covers are more durable than those cheap vinyl covered coils that one mounts behind the stock battery cover.
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Wireless charging is not as fast as wired charging but it sure is convenient. I hate having to plug and unplug the phone all day. With wireless charging I just make it a habit to always leave it on the charging pad when I can. That way my phone is always at 100% when I leave. My OEM fast charger is still in the box unused. I got a deal on the Nokia pads a year or so ago and only paid $5 a piece for them direct from AT&T. At that price it's easy to place them in multiple locations such as the living room, bedroom, office, car, etc.
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I plug mine in over night and go all day. That slow charge is gonna have issues charging a dead battery in 5-6 hours
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
I have the same QI pad in ur first link. Works gr8 on mine. Now I'm using a different receiver. The first one I bought was the same slmpwrcard u got. Lots of issues with it, until it just quite. When it was kinda working, hit or miss, I measured the voltage the receiver sent to battery when connected with charger. It was low. Should be 5v, I was getting right at 4v, now it only puts out 1.7v, and won't even work. Below is the one I bought to replace. Works perfect! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P48BIFY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have 7 QI chargers, and they all work well. By the way, the QI pad u linked is a 3 coil. Also it only makes sense u may have to put the phone on QI charger a lil offcenter because the coil in receiver is offcenter.....
I bought the Yoo Tech wireless receiver and LagaLake wireless charging pad. There's a slight bulge in the back of the phone and I have to put the phone on the charging pad slightly off center. In the end, it was more work than just plugging the phone in. So, I'm back to using my fast charger. I'll have to get the official Samsung wireless charging back and see if it works better.
Just wondering the best set up for qi, receiver and pad that work well together. Thanks guys
bazz7777777 said:
Just wondering the best set up for qi, receiver and pad that work well together. Thanks guys
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Technically, any receiver will work well with any charger. The thing you need to look for is a charger that can output 5V at 1A. Pretty much every charger will have that rating so it's hard to mess that one up. As far as the receiver goes, the higher the current output the better (measured in "ma"). And by "better" I mean the phone will charge faster. I have a 1A (1000ma) receiver in my Note 4. It charges pretty quickly, but interferes with NFC. Also, a higher current for a receiver typically means it will also be thicker, making the back of your phone bulge more.
Which charger and receiver are the most durable/well built is a much more difficult question to answer as there are so many to pick from. Just think about how you want to use it, do you want your phone tilted up at you while it's charging? Do you want a super grippy pad so your phone won't walk off the pad when it vibrates? Do you want it to be portable like the mobile pal 2 in 1? The best charger for you will be dependant on how you answer those questions.
Similar questions need to be asked for the receiver. Do you want it to work with NFC? Will you generally just use wireless charging to charge overnight? If so you can get away with a smaller, lower current receiver since you won't need quick charging. If you'll be charging throughout the day you'll want to get a receiver with a higher current rating.
Well, that answer was longer than I originally intended. But I hope it helps!
Thanks TM that's a lot to go on. But a lot of useful information
From my research online, the CHOETECH Stadium seems to be one of the best rated chargers (if you're not going for the official Samsung setup). I've ordered one and am awaiting its arrival, along with the FoneSalesman N4 SlimPWRCard.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00JA7HNZO
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00OFKS66G
The CHOETECH Stadium has 3 coils as opposed to some chargers that only have one - from what I've read that makes for faster charging and less problems positioning the phone correctly. This is my first foray into wireless charging though, so I'm only repeating what I've read online, not speaking from experience
I use fonesalesman powercard, and my trusty Nokia Qi charger. The thing is you have to find the right spot for the Qi receiver and charger to line up, then it will charge as it should.
Please report backs kinsman when you get chance to try it out thanks
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Please report backs kinsman when you get chance to try it out thanks
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Will do - but sorry, it might be the end of the month before I have a chance to test this all and report back, due to other commitments
I'm using a modified official wireless cover (removed guts) and the tylt vu. It works really well for me.
trussrules said:
I'm using a modified official wireless cover (removed guts) and the tylt vu. It works really well for me.
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That tylt stand looks nice
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Will do - but sorry, it might be the end of the month before I have a chance to test this all and report back, due to other commitments
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No problem
If anybody interested I went with this set up in the end. 3 coils in stand so works very well
Kosee Qi Smart Wireless Charging Cradle Stand for Samsung Galaxy Note 4 by Kosee http:/
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OZQOK42/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_-sskvb0WEQSDV
bazz7777777 said:
If anybody interested I went with this set up in the end. 3 coils in stand so works very well
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Glad you got sorted out and it's working well. Just got the CHOETECH Stadium (which is also 3 coils) set up and the FoneSalesman N4 SlimPWRCard installed. So far very impressed - the card is unnoticeable except for that slight bulging below the flash, which isn't really visible at all in a case. You can basically 'throw' the phone down onto the charging pad without having to worry too much about positioning. So far I have only used the CHOETECH connected to a PC USB port, not a wall adapter, but even at that, with the phone powered on, I got 10% of charge in an hour (65%-75%). Expecting even better results tonight with the CHOETECH plugged into the Samsung charger and the phone off. In any case, it's great to have that trickle charge while you're sitting working at the computer, without having to plug in. Yay for wireless charging
EDIT: Got just over 10% in half an hour with the charger plugged into the Samsung adaptor, and charging through a UAG case. :good:
EDIT 2: Charged phone overnight from 1% to 100%, it took approximately 5 hours. Good thing is there were no beeps or sounds from either the phone or the charger, and no noticeable 'hum' from the charger either - so good for bedside usage
Alright, so the Samsung replacement back cover for Qi charging adds enough thickness that normal cases won't fit anymore, this is known.
It is also known that you can take the offical Samsung Qi back cover, remove Samsung's Qi hardware, modify a stock back cover (glue, tape, and a dremel?) to add the module. This way it fits into the standard phone cases, while still allowing NFC to work properly, and wireless charging.
Does anywhere sell these pre-modified? Searching just leads me to cheap 3rd party Qi modules and reviews of the Samsung Qi covers..
You mean something like this: http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32394000515.html?
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You mean something like this: http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32394000515.html?
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Yes, something like that.. Except using Samsung's Qi module.
Alright, after giving up on that idea...
Looking at adding one of the tape on modules that support NFC.. I don't use it often, but I do use it..
Can anybody recommend the Qi-Infinity modules over the PWRcard brand?
The updated Qi-Infinity module and the SLIMPWRcard are both supposed to have NFC support..
However, searching with Google on my mobile, I can't find a person that has done a comparison/review of them.
Does anybody have a recommendation?
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Alright, after giving up on that idea...
Looking at adding one of the tape on modules that support NFC.. I don't use it often, but I do use it..
Can anybody recommend the Qi-Infinity modules over the PWRcard brand?
The updated Qi-Infinity module and the SLIMPWRcard are both supposed to have NFC support..
However, searching with Google on my mobile, I can't find a person that has done a comparison/review of them.
Does anybody have a recommendation?
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I've had good luck with the fonesalesman one. Used it for over a year. I'll find the link and edit to add it.
Edit: link; http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OF...+qi+note+4&dpPl=1&dpID=41r-snVVYwL&ref=plSrch
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I've had good luck with the fonesalesman one. Used it for over a year. I'll find the link and edit to add it.
Edit: link; http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OF...+qi+note+4&dpPl=1&dpID=41r-snVVYwL&ref=plSrch
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Cool thanks
I rarely post but was browsing the forum and wanted to chime in. I Just picked up a refurbished note 4 on eBay. I'm coming from a LG G3.
I wanted wireless charging on this phone but didn't want the thicker Samsung back.
I order a qi receiver on eBay since the prices were a bit cheaper than amz. I purchased the type that sticks to your battery after aligning the pins correctly. The issue is that I didn't want to tape it to my battery though because I like to swap the batteries out and charged them outside the phone.
When I added qi to the lg g3, the receiver taped to the back of the phone cover so I was surprised to see this opposite. I figured why not do the same with this phone. I used household double sided tape to attach the note 4 qi receiver to the back of the phone cover. It took a few tries to make sure the pins lined up but works with no issues once correct . My qi receiver was only 8 bucks.
I hope this helps anybody.
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I rarely post but was browsing the forum and wanted to chime in. I Just picked up a refurbished note 4 on eBay. I'm coming from a LG G3.
I wanted wireless charging on this phone but didn't want the thicker Samsung back.
I order a qi receiver on eBay since the prices were a bit cheaper than amz. I purchased the type that sticks to your battery after aligning the pins correctly. The issue is that I didn't want to tape it to my battery though because I like to swap the batteries out and charged them outside the phone.
When I added qi to the lg g3, the receiver taped to the back of the phone cover so I was surprised to see this opposite. I figured why not do the same with this phone. I used household double sided tape to attach the note 4 qi receiver to the back of the phone cover. It took a few tries to make sure the pins lined up but works with no issues once correct . My qi receiver was only 8 bucks.
I hope this helps anybody.
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Does that one also have the nfc hardware? Or does the battery still supple the nfc circuit.
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I've had good luck with the fonesalesman one. Used it for over a year. I'll find the link and edit to add it.
Edit: link; http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OF...+qi+note+4&dpPl=1&dpID=41r-snVVYwL&ref=plSrch
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Quick question.. The more research I do, the harder this becomes.. lol
Does your module trickle-charge when the battery gets to 100%, does it turn off? Or does it keep the phone supplied with power, but stops charging.
Turns off at 100% then starts charging again when the phone gets to 99% for example? Or does it just stay at 100%?
Does this depend on the Qi pad used? Or only the phone module? Both?
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Quick question.. The more research I do, the harder this becomes.. lol
Does your module trickle-charge when the battery gets to 100%, does it turn off? Or does it keep the phone supplied with power, but stops charging.
Turns off at 100% then starts charging again when the phone gets to 99% for example? Or does it just stay at 100%?
Does this depend on the Qi pad used? Or only the phone module? Both?
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I set mine on the pad at night and it shows 100% in the morning so it must trickle charge to keep it at 100%. It has a light on the choetech 3 coil pad I use that lights up when it detects the device is on the coil and drawing power.
I imagine this is based on both but not sure. I'm thinking the pad sits in a low power state and ramps up when it detects the device (indicates it knows it's there by the led on the pad). On the phone side, the phone controls when it draws current from the coil in the phone just the same as when it's plugged in. The inductive coil part is pretty simple and barebones.
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Does that one also have the nfc hardware? Or does the battery still supple the nfc circuit.
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I cannot confirm whether NFC works as I do not use it and I don't have any NFC devices.
I have experienced two issues with wireless charging since hooking it up. While my verdict is still iffy, i will continue to to test it out, as i love the concept.
The first night, the phone completely froze and i had to pull the battery. I had similar issues with my nexus 4 so i used an app called Safe Charge to help resolve my issue. I didn't bother testing a second night as i needed the alarm clock to work. I trusted that safe charge would fix the issue because i had similar issues on a nexus 4. And as expected, I had no issues since,. I'm wondering if i should continue this though as last night it didn't charge at all. I'm hoping i just i didn't put the cover back on right. i'll post back in a few days with updates.
Update: I think my issue was my case. I have started charging my phone without my it and my issue was resolved.
I also removed safe charge.
I'm guessing the fast charging wireless pad would work...?
I was digging around on ebay for accessories for my G5 and i suddenly found this type of wireless charger for LG G5 that comes with a sticker and it has a cable on the bottom to transfer the charge from the sticker into the phone. So.... has anyone tried it already? Comment what do you think about it. Are we getting closer to have wireless charging capability the same or similar way than other devices with wireless charging feature? In my opinion this might be an improvement. (not that i use wireless charging a lot but it is sometimes useful)
I've seen that this doesnt only work for the LG G5, it actually works for any device with type C usb as i have been digging even more and see that it works for other devices too.
Here is the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Smart-Windo...987701?hash=item25bd7eb535:g:3VoAAOSwBPNXSYc2
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I was digging around on ebay for accessories for my G5 and i suddenly found this type of wireless charger for LG G5 that comes with a sticker and it has a cable on the bottom to transfer the charge from the sticker into the phone. So.... has anyone tried it already? Comment what do you think about it. Are we getting closer to have wireless charging capability the same or similar way than other devices with wireless charging feature? In my opinion this might be an improvement. (not that i use wireless charging a lot but it is sometimes useful)
I've seen that this doesnt only work for the LG G5, it actually works for any device with type C usb as i have been digging even more and see that it works for other devices too.
Here is the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Smart-Windo...987701?hash=item25bd7eb535:g:3VoAAOSwBPNXSYc2
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You still need to get the charging base, unless you have one, many of these receiver that plugs into the USB port is not very reliable, too many detection error and very fragile, but I did try a micro USB QI receiver yesterday on the G5 and it work fine, that is upto now without error also trying some QI extention cable receiver, still work perfect.
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You still need to get the charging base, unless you have one, many of these receiver that plugs into the USB port is not very reliable, too many detection error and very fragile, but I did try a micro USB QI receiver yesterday on the G5 and it work fine, that is upto now without error also trying some QI extention cable receiver, still work perfect.
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What is most interesting about this is that it works with any device (smartphone) with Type C . According to the descriptions you find on ebay and amazon. I will have to give it a try. Dont know when i will be able to buy it exactly, but i will
I would check the output. These G5 take a large 1800mA (could be more haven't looked) charger. I used to grab those Qi universal charger films you are talking about. Worked great until phones started taking 1000mA or greater chargers. Many of these wireless chargers do NOT support fast enough charging. Meaning it could take 4 hours to get your battery to 50% or even longer (some are only 500mA chargers, almost 75% slower than normal).
So be prepared for extremely slow, albeit convenient, charging. Check the output of your charging base and the output of the charging film first.
I just ordered that sticker from eBay. I'll report back once I have it and tested it. I have the tylt 3-coil wireless charger. Charging speed is no issue for me. I don't need rapid charging like from the OEM charger.
If you don't have tylt, you can try the spigen 3-coil wireless charger. They're cheap on eBay! I'm not sure if it'll work (I haven't tested it) , but spigen is a good brand for most things.
Spigen f300w 3-coil wireless charger
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271833979776
Tylt VU 3-coil wireless charger
http://www.ebay.com/itm/361586697989
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I just ordered that sticker from eBay. I'll report back once I have it and tested it. I have the tylt 3-coil wireless charger. Charging speed is no issue for me. I don't need rapid charging like from the OEM charger.
If you don't have tylt, you can try the spigen 3-coil wireless charger. They're cheap on eBay! I'm not sure if it'll work (I haven't tested it) , but spigen is a good brand for most things.
Spigen f300w 3-coil wireless charger
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271833979776
Tylt VU 3-coil wireless charger
http://www.ebay.com/itm/361586697989
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Hey thanks. Let us know how it goes. Between the money i paid for the phone and college, well. Im pretty much broke right now. Im trying to sell my Galaxy s5 locally to get some money back and some of my covers among other things, however, here in miami people sell high, and want to buy extremely low.
I have it, not very good.
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I have it, not very good.
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Which one do you have? And tell us about your experience. How long it took to charge.from x% to y%
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Which one do you have? And tell us about your experience. How long it took to charge.from x% to y%
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There is only one available, no matter where you buy it, it's the same product, speed is slower than cable, but that was expected, if you use a case, it's very fiddly to put on and take off, as the plug area is very big when you compare them to other receivers like the micro USB or lightning.
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There is only one available, no matter where you buy it, it's the same product, speed is slower than cable, but that was expected, if you use a case, it's very fiddly to put on and take off, as the plug area is very big when you compare them to other receivers like the micro USB or lightning.
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Hmm, But what was the estimate time for the phone to fully charge from x% to y% ? Maybe with another cover it would be easier to put? There are quite a few now for g5
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Hmm, But what was the estimate time for the phone to fully charge from x% to y% ? Maybe with another cover it would be easier to put? There are quite a few now for g5
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If you are concern about slow speed, you shouldn't use it, as I say it's slower than cable, I mean with a normal charger, not a fast charger, but i'm ok with that, I have never liked fast charge, if you are using a TPU case, it easy to use, but cases like my voia or spigen style armor with removable bottom has problems, the head is very big, so not all case will fit.
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If you are concern about slow speed, you shouldn't use it, as I say it's slower than cable, I mean with a normal charger, not a fast charger, but i'm ok with that, I have never liked fast charge, if you are using a TPU case, it easy to use, but cases like my voia or spigen style armor with removable bottom has problems, the head is very big, so not all case will fit.
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Im not that concern though. After all i would only use it about 10% of the times. But people who really use it would probably like to know
Could you please take a picture, I am curious as to how much the head sticks out
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If you are concern about slow speed, you shouldn't use it, as I say it's slower than cable, I mean with a normal charger, not a fast charger, but i'm ok with that, I have never liked fast charge, if you are using a TPU case, it easy to use, but cases like my voia or spigen style armor with removable bottom has problems, the head is very big, so not all case will fit.
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@cenwesi would like to know if (OP) "Could you please take a picture, I am curious as to how much the head sticks out"
Hey guys. Made a quick video of the module. Will update you once I have more time to test it. Sorry for the amateur nature
https://youtu.be/AxrFSz4Hv-M
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Hey guys. Made a quick video of the module. Will update you once I have more time to test it. Sorry for the amateur nature
https://youtu.be/AxrFSz4Hv-M
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Great!! thanks for sharing. Any intel about how long does it take to charge from x% to y%? any given value to x and any given value greater than X given to Y. Also, when you are using the device, whether it transfer enough energy to keep using the phone while it charges or whether the battery will decrease while you are using the phone. (In an average usage: Say, Facebook, youtube with brightness in about 50-70%, or having at least 3 or 4 applications running in the background that are not so heavy, nor light) If you have tried any of this things, or all of them, please share your experience with it.
According to the description of the link i posted, it says that the output is 1000mA
But thank you for sharing the video
With about 1 hour of charging, i got about 10% of charge. If there's load, it'll def drop the charging capability. I'll do more rigorous testing, but as it stands, it's charging slowly.
Part of it can also be because I'm using the tylt charger, which has a 5 w output.
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With about 1 hour of charging, i got about 10% of charge. If there's load, it'll def drop the charging capability. I'll do more rigorous testing, but as it stands, it's charging slowly.
Part of it can also be because I'm using the tylt charger, which has a 5 w output.
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hmm yeah. There might be some factors affecting the rate of charge. I mean, 10% in 1 hour? that shouldn't be a standard charge rate. I will dig in a little more and see what i can find out there in google. Maybe someone did try it with a charging dock with higher Watts output. I will let you know if i found something
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With about 1 hour of charging, i got about 10% of charge. If there's load, it'll def drop the charging capability. I'll do more rigorous testing, but as it stands, it's charging slowly.
Part of it can also be because I'm using the tylt charger, which has a 5 w output.
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hmm yeah. There might be some factors affecting the rate of charge. I mean, 10% in 1 hour? that shouldn't be a standard charge rate. I will dig in a little more and see what i can find out there in google. Maybe someone did try it with a charging dock with higher Watts output. I will let you know if i found something
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Okay, before i looked into google i decided to see what other sellers on ebay have to offer and here is what i found. There are sellers that sell the sticker along with a charging dock with an input of 2000mA and output of 1000mA, Power: 10W. I think that would only double the estimated time you just gave me from x to y being 10% in 1 hour . But it still too low. Maybe the cover is another factor? Maybe there are materials that decrease the overall charging rate by slowing the transference of energy from the dock to the wireless receiver. I will look for more info.