Hi All
I`m travelling to the states in a few weeks and was interested in picking up a new phone , namely the Moto G. I noticed best buy have two versions
an verizon no contract for $99 and an unlocked for $202. The downside is that they only seem to have the verizon in store , the other has to be ordered in.
Anyone know what the best option is, would the verizon need to be unlocked for use on a foreign network? If so ,is that a straight forward job?
And also, is the verizon version ok for rooting? I read somewhere its not possible.
Thanks in advance
If you are getting one for abroad , get the international GSM version. Here's why:
1. The Verizon Moto G is CDMA only, which means it will only work on Verizon and cannot be unlocked for use on a GSM network in another country.
2. The Verizon Moto G cannot have its bootloader unlocked because Verizon mandates that so you cannot root it at all.
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Just bought a Moto G from Best Buy for $99. Anybody know how to bypass Verizon activation. I want to use this in wifi mode only, not interested in using it on Verizon network.
cutmanjim said:
Just bought a Moto G from Best Buy for $99. Anybody know how to bypass Verizon activation. I want to use this in wifi mode only, not interested in using it on Verizon network.
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I also am curious about this. Also, does anyone think that there will be a root even though the bootloader can't be unlocked. I only ask this because my Verizon One can't officially be unlocked but we have root anyway
Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2599466 (5th post)
cutmanjim said:
Just bought a Moto G from Best Buy for $99. Anybody know how to bypass Verizon activation. I want to use this in wifi mode only, not interested in using it on Verizon network.
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just recv'd. my moto g from HSN for Boost Mobile...
unlocked & rooted it -
bypassed activation, is running on wifi only.
(btw, i checked the MEID @ RingPlus,
according to Device Checker there, it can be activated on their plans...BONUS!!!)
Okay so January 9th has passed and Best Buy is now "officially" selling the Prepaid Verizon Moto G in stores and online. I've searched online over the past few days and even on the forum and I can not find anything regarding information about flashing the Moto G CDMA version to Straight Talk. :crying:
The closest thing that I have found is a Verizon CSR telling me that the Moto G CDMA is not usable on a contract plan (for six months or some jazz). I already know the Moto G GSM can be used via Straight Talk's BYOP program ( I saw that thread in the forums), but I want to know if I can use the CDMA version as well? I know the phone itself seemingly meets all the requirements but I don't have a handset handy to check the ESN/MEID/IMEI on the Straight Talk website to confirm compatibility.
Anyone have any info?
I hope someone figures something out, I can't pay 50$ for 6 months for 1gb/month when I'm getting 2.5gb for 45$...
There is no 'flashing' involved in getting an unlocked phone to work with an MVNO. This of course may not be the case with Verizon Moto G's sold in their stores however...
If you find one on display in a store somewhere try entering in its information here
http://www.straighttalk.com/wps/portal/home/h/byop/registration#.UtmhMhCwLXo
to find out if it's possible to register. Then you'll know if it's technically possible. A Verizon Moto G may still be locked to their network however and the only way you'd be able to find that out is to purchase the phone and activate service with straight talk. If the software is locked a dev may be able to create a rom without that limitation as has been done in the past for example the HTC Rezound, which was a Verizon Global phone that restricted using any US carrier GSM SIM, before devs got around to making a ROM that circumvented that restriction.
Good luck, if it works that's just one more wireless option available at an even cheaper price. Unfortunately I have no idea how good ST's CDMA network is, do they just piggyback off Verizon?
There have been attempts to activate the Verizon Moto G on Page Plus reported on Howard Forum. They were unsuccessful.
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Is it possible to get the SPC/MSL code?
I believe that the Moto G sold under Verizon is a CDMA phone. No GSM radios inside. You can flash the phone all you want, but you're not going to get it to work on any networks that use the GSM radios like T-Mobile, straight talk, or AT&T...I think people need to be aware of this fact in all the other posts about trying to use a CDMA only phone on GSM networks...I have never heard of an unlocked CDMA phone that works with all the CDMA frequencies in the U.S. also, I've never heard of a prepaid CDMA phone being able to be used through an MVNO...contract Verizon phones can be, but only the high end phones like the Samsung galaxy line or an apple iPhone which has both CDMA and GSM radios.
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Thanks for letting me know. I might just bite the bullet and make the full on switch to Verizon just for this phone.
lmacmil said:
There have been attempts to activate the Verizon Moto G on Page Plus reported on Howard Forum. They were unsuccessful.
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Straight Talk introduced a BYOP CDMA program a while back, and I've had pretty good luck so far when it comes to flashing unlocked CDMA phones over. One of the biggest setbacks to this program though, is the fact that it does NOT support 4g LTE Verizon phones. With the ST program being locked to 3g only phones, you can imagine why everyone was so stoked to see such a decent handset come out that wasn't a 4g phone.
You kind of went on a rant due to a mis-communication. Apologies.
AstroBoy89 said:
I believe that the Moto G sold under Verizon is a CDMA phone. No GSM radios inside. You can flash the phone all you want, but you're not going to get it to work on any networks that use the GSM radios like T-Mobile, straight talk, or AT&T...I think people need to be aware of this fact in all the other posts about trying to use a CDMA only phone on GSM networks...I have never heard of an unlocked CDMA phone that works with all the CDMA frequencies in the U.S. also, I've never heard of a prepaid CDMA phone being able to be used through an MVNO...contract Verizon phones can be, but only the high end phones like the Samsung galaxy line or an apple iPhone which has both CDMA and GSM radios.
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I apologize. I thought you couldn't flash prepaid phone on to straight talk :3
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shanesxe said:
Okay so January 9th has passed and Best Buy is now "officially" selling the Prepaid Verizon Moto G in stores and online. I've searched online over the past few days and even on the forum and I can not find anything regarding information about flashing the Moto G CDMA version to Straight Talk. :crying:
The closest thing that I have found is a Verizon CSR telling me that the Moto G CDMA is not usable on a contract plan (for six months or some jazz). I already know the Moto G GSM can/has been flashed to Straight Talk ( I saw that thread in the forums), but I want to know if I can use the CDMA version as well? I know the phone itself seemingly meets all the requirements but I don't have a handset handy to check the ESN/MEID/IMEI on the Straight Talk website to confirm compatibility.
Anyone have any info?
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GSM version "flashed to" straight talk? You don't "flash" a GSM device to anything. You pop your SIM in and go.
If you want to use Straight Talk, you are FAR better off getting the GSM variant.
Entropy512 said:
GSM version "flashed to" straight talk? You don't "flash" a GSM device to anything. You pop your SIM in and go.
If you want to use Straight Talk, you are FAR better off getting the GSM variant.
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Thanks for catching that. I updated the OP.
I don't have an extra 200 dollars lying around for the GSM version of the Moto G, otherwise I wouldn't have even bothered starting a thread. I was merely curious to see if anyone had any success with flashing the CDMA version to Straight Talk since the phone meets all the technical requirements of the program.
What is the situation with getting a more thorough guide on doing the flash for the Moto G?
I see some people are getting their phones activated but very little details on how they were able to do it. There are bits and pieces of info posted but its so scattered and incomplete that it is been hard for novices to get a handle on how to do it themselves.
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Can you give a good way and complete way to do this?
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You mean switching a CDMA Moto G to Straight Talk?
shanesxe said:
You mean switching a CDMA Moto G to Straight Talk?
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I am was hoping for more detailed info on flashing a Boost Moto G in particular.
If you want to flash that Boost phone to work on Verizon towers, go to Kitty Wireless on Tapatalk, and there are guys there that can flash your phone for Page Plus. A great third party provider.
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There is a tutorial here and on HoFo, its not too difficult to do. You basically flash the vzw software to the Boost phone. It over the air activates and everything works. With the Boost version at $79 this week at Target its a great deal.
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So flashing it skips Verizon's 6 month prepaid requirement?
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JooseyJay said:
So flashing it skips Verizon's 6 month prepaid requirement?
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I would like to know this as well. I doubt that it will "bypass" VZWs 6month blacklist because the Boost MotoGs IMEI still will not be in VZWs system. Meaning it can not be activated on a paid account. (maybe i am incorrect)
Can you give a link to HoFo and which VZW software they are flashing?
I am assuming you would only need to flash the Radio file and possibly the Kernel. Problem is I have not found those files yet.
Nevermind, answered my own question. Its exactly what I thought.
Here is the link to the HoFo thread: http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...o-G-to-Page-Plus?highlight=boost+moto+verizon
And the link to the XDA thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2681166
So has anyone been successful with this yet? I want to make sure a CDMA Moto G works with straight talk before I go buying it. Any confirmation?
SacTappingUni said:
So has anyone been successful with this yet? I want to make sure a CDMA Moto G works with straight talk before I go buying it. Any confirmation?
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If they will accept ESN I believe it will work.
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I use At&t carries.
I want to buy a Moto G MOT1031ABB or MOTXT1028PP that only 99$.
But I don't know it can use as GSM with At&t or wwithout.
Can you have me?
Lee Chen Lua said:
I use At&t carries.
I want to buy a Moto G MOT1031ABB or MOTXT1028PP that only 99$.
But I don't know it can use as GSM with At&t or wwithout.
Can you have me?
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No I can't have you, as I'm not interested in a relationship right now. But the moto g for $99 is the verizon model (CDMA) last time I checked. ATT is not compatible.
wolfen69 said:
No I can't have you, as I'm not interested in a relationship right now. But the moto g for $99 is the verizon model (CDMA) last time I checked. ATT is not compatible.
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thank guy
MOTXT1028PP of Verizon, also MOT1031ABB of Boost Mobile?
who can help me
Verizon and Boost versions are both CDMA and not compatible with AT&T.
I have the Boost version and flashed to Verizon version to use on PagePlus which runs on Verizon Wireless
netkeys said:
Verizon and Boost versions are both CDMA and not compatible with AT&T.
I have the Boost version and flashed to Verizon version to use on PagePlus which runs on Verizon Wireless
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So the boost version can be unlocked?
I wonder if you can unlock the Verizon version after 6 months
So the boost version can be unlocked?
YES I've unlocked mine without a problem then flashed with Verizon firmware and use on PagePlus. You won't be able to use it with Verizon prepaid or post paid
I wonder if you can unlock the Verizon version after 6 month?
I wouldn't count on it. The only thing you may be able to do after six months is move from prepaid to a post paid plan. Other then being able to change plan type your probably out of luck. There is a bounty offered to find a way to unlock but so far no solution.
netkeys said:
So the boost version can be unlocked?
YES I've unlocked mine without a problem then flashed with Verizon firmware and use on PagePlus. You won't be able to use it with Verizon prepaid or post paid
I wonder if you can unlock the Verizon version after 6 month?
I wouldn't count on it. The only thing you may be able to do after six months is move from prepaid to a post paid plan. Other then being able to change plan type your probably out of luck. There is a bounty offered to find a way to unlock but so far no solution.
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So you used Motorola's website which voids the warranty?
Anyone know if the U.S. Cellular version can be unlocked? It is $79.99
redking117 said:
So you used Motorola's website which voids the warranty?
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YES
I don't know about US cel version
How do you like Page Plus? how does it compare to VZW prepaid? I'm paying $45 per month for 1GB data and unlimited talk & text, coverage is the same as it was with my last CDMA straight talk phone.
Made the mistake of buying two Verizon Moto G's
Sounds like I should have bought one and one boost, or maybe the U.S. cel ver.
So I know it's CDMA so ATT and T-Mobile compatibility is out. But how about unlocking it for Sprint?
Page plus.
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I actually bought 2 of them the other day for $70. My son & I are using them like iPod-like devices. I disabled a bunch of apps and used Nova Launcher to hide the dialer & messaging app. It is such the upgrade over my old Eris that the boy was using before!
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So I know it's CDMA so ATT and T-Mobile compatibility is out. But how about unlocking it for Sprint?
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Nope. The only thing it will work on is VzW pre-paid. The Boost version can be flashed over to Page Plus and I believe Selectel (but NOT Straight Talk or Net10), but the VzW version can't go anywhere, as the bootloader is locked and cannot be unlocked.
In any case, why would you want to? If you like the Sprint network, buy the Boost version instead of VzW.
Short story GF needs a new phone been eyeing the moto g for a while. And cricket does have a moto g through there website but one thing is the internal memory is 8GBs ,happens to be the only model crickets offers. which is clearly not enough for a app heavy user. GPE has a 16GB version on googleplay perfect size. Just needed some help confirming GPE model will work with Cricket USA. (Any limits like 3G only or LTE capable from the bands provided by google on their playstore and whatever cricket bands are.)
Also stupid question cricket use sim? (I try not to ask gf cause she will beat me knowing I'm getting her a new phone and asking that question would be dead give away)
Thanks alot
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Short story GF needs a new phone been eyeing the moto g for a while. And cricket does have a moto g through there website but one thing is the internal memory is 8GBs ,happens to be the only model crickets offers. which is clearly not enough for a app heavy user. GPE has a 16GB version on googleplay perfect size. Just needed some help confirming GPE model will work with Cricket USA. (Any limits like 3G only or LTE capable from the bands provided by google on their playstore and whatever cricket bands are.)
Also stupid question cricket use sim? (I try not to ask gf cause she will beat me knowing I'm getting her a new phone and asking that question would be dead give away)
Thanks alot
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From what I understand, Cricket is an AT&T MVNO and will use sim cards, along with the AT&T towers. Also the version of the Moto G on the Google Play store is the European one, no idea why they would do that, but that means no 3G in the U.S. I'd suggest either getting the phone through Amazon, or from Motorola themselves, as they do carry it for sale directly.
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From what I understand, Cricket is an AT&T MVNO and will use sim cards, along with the AT&T towers. Also the version of the Moto G on the Google Play store is the European one, no idea why they would do that, but that means no 3G in the U.S. I'd suggest either getting the phone through Amazon, or from Motorola themselves, as they do carry it for sale directly.
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If I buy from amazon which version model should I get the Global GSM(amazon references that model working with att so cricket is a safe bet if I'm correct just wanna make sure) or US GSM?