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Can you have to many system apps? Odd.. .

All my system tools, network tools, repair tools, is it possible there tools over lap. Like if three apps all have same program all have start up app killers do they all work. Which wins out.. that's one thing I'm talking battery savers. Network defence. I have apps for there best options but some do things I don't want so can that cause conflict? Like slow phone down. I notice memory being eaten up and wonder if that could be the issue. I mean I want them all but if there duplicate abilities is hurting not helping I will uninstall them. Also how come programs that don't need to start up and come back even after I Kill them. Thanks
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Is there any other way to release more system memory each ram beside deleting apps. I hate using over 350ram which I often do
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Deleting apparently will not free up ram it will free up rom. Your ram is used when apps are running. I have only seen system monitors needed when you overclock and battery savers usually don't help that much. And yes they will overlap and conflict with each other. My battery lasts longer without battery savers and app killers. App killers can also (by default) turn off apparently your phone needs to run and cause stability issues unless you tell them not to (not all will do this but some.) I personally use the back arrow to go back to the home screen and that pretty much stops the app and I get on average about 18 hours out of mt photon (most I have gotten is 1 day 13 hours but I didn't use it a lot at all) and I got about 15 hour average on my evo.
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OK I just hate getting rid apps I paid for and are good. Like Rom manager. Super manager. Rom tool box and titanium back up. I mean others too where one does all functions. So if I uninstall a app it wont run, so more memory. Is there a way to clean duplicate system files running or does it need them. Like system tasks not apps. Thanks. Also why do some apps run even when I turn them off starting up is there as app for that. Freeze? Function keep it from running in the background
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why are you trying to use any type of task killer? its not needed.
why do you think you need to uninstall your useful tools?
do you understand how Android works?
why do you think you need to free up RAM? Free RAM is WASTED RAM....there are thousands of articles on this subject, i would suggest you do some reading on how the system works, before you randomly start killing processes and apps.

[TIP] Deleting useless stock Samsung apps

If found an app that can delete those useless apps that come pre-installed on Samsung phones.
It's called ''Titanium Backup'', and it can be found in the Market
I found it to be very useful, because some of these apps open up on boot en fill your RAM while not having any added value to your phone.
You can also backup apps as the title, ''Titanium Backup'', obviously suggests.
So you can backup files you are not sure of if they are mandatory to the system before you delete them.
If you are using a custom launcher you can also delete the TWlauncher.

Dude you are talking about one of the most popular applications that requires root access on the market (if not the most popular It's obviously great, no doubt about this.
I'm not a mod or something and please don't consider it a as personal attack on you, but let me just express my own opinion: I don't think this information requires a new thread.
I woudn't delete a TW Launcher since it's the only launcher with hardware acceleration. TB has a better option: "freeze" - you simply shut down process without deleting it. You never know when you will need it.

Thanks for clearing that up.
I was just looking for something to post because I want to be added value to our forum.
This was the first thing that came to mind.

No problem, every effort in our growing community is appreciated !

It is valuable to be able to remove the samsung apps, personally I removed the hubs because I'll never use them.
About apps that launch on startup and occupy ram: please don't worry about this, the android system tries to hold apps in ram so that they can startup quickly when you need them again, the system will move them out if the active app really needs more ram. This is why task killers really aren't worth the effort.
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It would also be helpful to have a list of those apps that can safely be removed.

I found that these useless apps take up ram again even if they are not needed. Though everybody says "android handles this perfectly" my system slows down considerably. I installed several always running apps and the combination of wanted and useles apps took up almost all my ram.
I rooted my phone and tried several apps , including TB to correct this situation.
I finally found a nice tool: gemini app manager. It allows me to disable autostart/ notification events so that an App is not reloaded after each fart from the OS.
It reduced my permanent mem usage by almost 130MB!
This makes my Galaxy R responsive like fresh from the box.
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any way to get those apps kicked out of RAM for the unrooted user...??
coz when i choose "Clear memory" it still keeps consuming lots of RAM

ofabhishek said:
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any way to get those apps kicked out of RAM for the unrooted user...??
coz when i choose "Clear memory" it still keeps consuming lots of RAM
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That is my main reason forr rooting! And since it's so easy and has no negative aspects - why shouldn't i do it?

Google Play Store

Hi
how does one run Google Play Store from running whenever the F*&&@# it wants.
it only needs to run, when I want it to
This app is intrusive and a memory/process hog.
thx!!

haha yeah.. totally accept that.
its soo annoying.. and the same with maps too

If you want to prevent any app from running when you dont want them to, just install from google play "autostarts" its free, and there you choose which apps you want to prevent fron running
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the autostarts, I'm looking at isn't free. that's fine.
i don't have a problem disabling auto start programs.
the problem is apps relaunching themselves, just like Google Play, which runs whenever it thinks it needs to.
background data/storage change/app update/diaper change/my girlfriends has a hang nail...etc
this app along with others are ridiculously intrusive.
i control my phone, not google or some app developer.

terraterm said:
the autostarts, I'm looking at isn't free. that's fine.
i don't have a problem disabling auto start programs.
the problem is apps relaunching themselves, just like Google Play, which runs whenever it thinks it needs to.
background data/storage change/app update/diaper change/my girlfriends has a hang nail...etc
this app along with others are ridiculously intrusive.
i control my phone, not google or some app developer.
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Gemini app manager is free and controls autostart properties for app.
If you use it you will see apps such as the play store are set to run when wifi state changes, when you delete an app etc, you can change these settings so it won't start in such situations.
It helps quite a bit.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Gemini app manager is free and controls autostart properties for app.
If you use it you will see apps such as the play store are set to run when wifi state changes, when you delete an app etc, you can change these settings so it won't start in such situations.
It helps quite a bit.
Dave
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Thanks! it is usefull for me! ^_^

Tried Genimi, it can be a little hard to navigate its UI but it has a lot of options. Unfortunately Google Play will undo about half of the autorun conditions you set the next time you launch it manually.

yes, i'm also using Gemini app manager, but as spunker88, mentions, google play will reapply it's settings, when it's launched manually.
once again software, doing what it wants...

i want know the google play apps install apk file download from android market ?

it runs in the background and barely uses any memory. it stays running so it can notify you if updates are available as well as to open and load quickly. its not really intruding..

i prefer to update manually

I don't recommend it but I suppose if it's really bugging you you could always try freezing Play Store when you're not using it. You could use App Quarantine and create a widget to freeze/defrost it with 1 click. Not sure if it's going to even work or how this will affect your phone so don't blame me if you screw up your phone.

no freezing...I'll kill it as needed...thx

This is another universal curse of Android.. And sometimes this crap calls itself a service etc to tryto skirt task managers.... This permission needs to be banned from android...
These apps are so small the newer phones don't even leave the developers the standard lame excuse of "quick loading"...
It's my bloody phone.. I'll give permission...
If your app doesn't work right or load quick on a dual core 1.5ghz chipset with 1gig of ram.. YOU DID IT WRONG..

kazzxtrismus said:
If your app doesn't work right or load quick on a dual core 1.5ghz chipset with 1gig of ram.. YOU DID IT WRONG..
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if you actually notice the store hogging ram on a dual core 1.5ghz/1gb ram phone, you are insane.

kazzxtrismus said:
This is another universal curse of Android.. And sometimes this crap calls itself a service etc to tryto skirt task managers.... This permission needs to be banned from android...
These apps are so small the newer phones don't even leave the developers the standard lame excuse of "quick loading"...
It's my bloody phone.. I'll give permission...
If your app doesn't work right or load quick on a dual core 1.5ghz chipset with 1gig of ram.. YOU DID IT WRONG..
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It's a core Google app. If you want to stop it, root your phone, get a custom ROM, and don't flash Gapps. The phone is set to use Google Play for stuff like this, and barely uses any memory at all.
Stop complaining, and calm down. There are just some things you can't turn off on a phone...you know...kinda like on a computer.
PS: You can set apps to NOT auto-update in the app store settings.

I want running my android tablet ( the tablet running android 4.03 )

... I feel the same of the author of the topic..
If i want an app to run, i'll launch it.
Those answer are all blablabla.. i don't want app in background that i don't use. END.
For me it can drain even 0,001% of battery\ram but it's not the point.
Tried both gemini and autostarts.. as today..
Playstore old worked, the new one reset all settings and always on.
Maps work, but if u launch it , it will reset something, and u have to terminate the app from settings,apps..ecc.
With root must be a way to bypass those stupid apps from get permissions ecc..
Chooo

[apps] must have apps, after root[edited 24-08-13 ]

ok let me introduce my self, i am a android enthusiast
i made this thread so that others who root their phone wont have to go through with the hardship to find the apps that make ROOTING WORTHWHILE
there are tons which i may miss, but here are the ones which is must install! some of them are paid but its worth the price believe me
!!ATTENTION!!
ALL THE APPS HAVE BEEN PERSONALLY TESTED IN HTC ONE V STOCK ROM AND CM9 RC3,AOKP JB, PA, PACman ROM, NO PHONES SHOULD HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THESE APPS
IF U LIKE THIS THREAD A THANKS WILL BE APPRECIATED !!
ALTHOUGH IF ANY THING HAPPENS I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE
1.SUPER USER(FREE)
SUPER USER
Superuser is the first app a user should install after rooting, if the rooting method didn't do it already. "Rooting" a phone allows a user to establish total control over the device, but Superuser is the app that provides the button for that control
2.ROM MANAGER(FREE/PAID)
ROM MANAGER
ROM MANAGER is a app that is used to flash CVM, browse ROMS and more
3.TITANIUM BACKUP(FREE/PAID0[I RECOMMEND PAID]
TITANIUM BACKUP
Titanium Backup is an enormously useful app. Not only can it backup apps, but it can backup apps and all their data, and it can delete apps—even system apps or bloatware.
4.SETCPU FOR ROOT[PAID WORTH EVERY PENNY]
SET CPU
SetCPU allows the user to exert total control over how fast, or slow, the processor runs at any given point in time
5.ADFREE[FREE]
ADFREE
Adfree may actually be the greatest root-essential app available on Android, and it's one that you never see unless it needs updating. All Adfree does is block ads, but it does it for everything on the phone
6.TASKER[AMAZING PAID APP]
TASKER
what it does best is definitely a good thing, since it can practically automate your entire phone given the right amount of power.
7.METAMORPH[FREE/PAID]
METAMORPH
Metamorph is a small app that allows you to theme any part of Android by applying simple patch files
8.BUSYBOX[FREE/PAID]
BUSY BOX
It's not an actual app that you run, but instead provides all the Linux/UNIX commands that we know and love.
9.SSH TUNNEL[FREE]
SSH TUNNEL
Recently mentioned SSH Tunnel is an app that allows an Android phone to connect to the internet using an ssh tunnel for a completely secure connection
10.AUTORUN MANAGER[FREE/PAID]
AUTORUN MANAGER
Change the APPS that start when the phone boots and more
11.ROOT EXPLORER [PAID]
ROOT EXPLORER
explores till the root of your phone
12.ES EXPLORER[FOR THOSE WHO CANT AFFORD THE ABV^]
ES (I USE THIS)
explores till the root of your phone
13.JUICE DEFENDER ULTIMATE[ALTHOUGH FREE IS ALSO THERE]
JD ULTIMATE
HELPS you in saving battery
14.ROM TOOLBOX [pro/free]
ROM TOOLBOX
a toolbox containing all the essential tools
15.TERMINAL[A TERMINAL EMULATOR FOR YOUR PHONE][FREE]
TERMINAL EMULATOR
16. SD MAID[FREE/PRO][PLEASE GO FOR PRO]
SD MAID
a complete set of tools to clean and boost ur SD card
17.INCREDI CONTROL[TO OC/UC/UV](OVER CLOCK)
INCREDI CONTROL
18.DaemonController[ADVANCED CPU MANAGER]
DAEMON CONTROLLER
19.FONT CHANGER[CHANGE FONTS IN YOUR ANDROID]
FONT CHANGER
20.BETTER BATTERY STATS[BRING UR BATTERY HISTORY BACK]
BETTERBS
21.BATTERY CALIBRATION[JUST FLASHED NEW ROM?U NEED THIS ]
BATTERY CALIBRATION
22.GREENIFY[BEST BATTERY SAVER.PERIOD.]
GREENIFY
23.Xposed FRAMEWORK[ARE YOU INTO MODIFYING YOUR SYSTEMUI? , GET THIS]
Xda link
PM ME IF ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE SUGGEST IF YOU KNOW ! AND CLICK THANKS IF I HELPED

The root function for antitheft of avast (free) and cerberus (paid) i think are worth mentioning. They are wipe surviving antitheft apps that can remotely control several aspects of the phone through internet or sms.
Also, if on gingerbread, droidwall and pdroid are the paranoid's best friends (pdroid if successfully gone through the hassle of patching). Together give almost full control of permissions for apps, specially those with access to private data.
Edit: i think this list can be good, but maybe add a short description of what you use the apps for, and what advantages they might bring. Also, tasker and set cpu make juice defender irrelevant.

I don't see the point on having a anti virus, cause all the apk's are scanned my Google....and unless u use mms the chances of virus are low...and keeping those apps on drains alot of battery

yea ill add the descriptions
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I'll add 2 more that are a must.... Android tuner! It can do so any things you just have to check it out. And GMD gesture is awesome for tablets and big screen phones
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I agree that anti virus is not essential because APKs are very safe, but I think SD cards and bluetooth data transfers can be quite dangerous...

umair.usb said:
I agree that anti virus is not essential because APKs are very safe, but I think SD cards and bluetooth data transfers can be quite dangerous...
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Is this sarcasm?
APKs are not that safe.
Yes they are scanned by google but they are all not "safe"
The popular game Paper Toss was collecting peoples data.
Everyone should be aware that it may not be viruses but taking your information is to me considered not "safe"
You need to read the permissions before installing.
If you download a live wallpaper of the ocean waves it shouldn't have the phone permission to "read phone identity" or "access hardware controls".
I didnt just make this up. The comments of shady apps are flooded with people asking what the permission are needed for.

"PhonemyPc" is a pretty good app to remotely access and use your PC.

DroidCamX for using your phone as a wireless webcam.

For my SGS2 running CNA JB
GooManager
Mobile Odin
ROM Toolbox
Root Explorer
Terminal
User Management
+ everything you already have in the OP
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Free Apps
"Shush" is a good free app which once you put your phone on silent or vibrate you can set the time when you want it the normal sound settings to come back on, ideal for use at work or meetings.
"Anydo" is a great note app & is super stylish, which comes in black or white & ics blue, one of the best note apps on the market.
"Quickpic" a great gallery app which is a brilliant alternative to the stock gallery, also themed in black or white & a great layout.
"Zipsigner" is a apk signing app, you can modify your zip app files & then sign it using this app, then install & enjoy your Modded app, really easy to use too.
"Ringdroid" a ringtone maker app, use this to cut your own music tracks up & turn it in to your own custom ringtones or message alerts.
Loads more to mention really but this is a good start :0)
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Modded Devices -
Samsung galaxy s3 (foxhound Sliver v0.6 Super Modded Rom)
Motorola Xoom (Code name Android v3.3.1 Rom)

i did like 3 apps that u recomended @mattix

@deaner al those things can be done by one app called tasker!

dxppxd said:
The root function for antitheft of avast (free) and cerberus (paid) i think are worth mentioning. They are wipe surviving antitheft apps that can remotely control several aspects of the phone through internet or sms.
Also, if on gingerbread, droidwall and pdroid are the paranoid's best friends (pdroid if successfully gone through the hassle of patching). Together give almost full control of permissions for apps, specially those with access to private data.
Edit: i think this list can be good, but maybe add a short description of what you use the apps for, and what advantages they might bring. Also, tasker and set cpu make juice defender irrelevant.
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posts updated!! check!

NicholasQ said:
I'll add 2 more that are a must.... Android tuner! It can do so any things you just have to check it out. And GMD gesture is awesome for tablets and big screen phones
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yea i dont know about android tuner but GMD i have on my phone and is pretty nice! ill surely update in next post!

robogoflow said:
Is this sarcasm?
APKs are not that safe.
Yes they are scanned by google but they are all not "safe"
The popular game Paper Toss was collecting peoples data.
Everyone should be aware that it may not be viruses but taking your information is to me considered not "safe"
You need to read the permissions before installing.
If you download a live wallpaper of the ocean waves it shouldn't have the phone permission to "read phone identity" or "access hardware controls".
I didnt just make this up. The comments of shady apps are flooded with people asking what the permission are needed for.
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if u r a smart android user u will eventuallyy come to know there is no use !

cybervibin said:
@deaner al those things can be done by one app called tasker!
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I know tasker is a wicked app but I've never got the hang of it? Dunno how to work it properly? I may give it a second try? Anyone got ant tips to using it
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Modded Devices -
Samsung galaxy s3 (foxhound Sliver v0.6 Super Modded Rom)
Motorola Xoom (Code name Android v3.3.1 Rom)

I definitely recommend Cerberus as mentioned before.
I'll also suggest Solid Explorer as it's smoother than the file explorers you mentioned and has a great UI.
''Evil corrupts the mind of the weak but fails to feed off the mind of the strong''

Apps that come to my mind are Lucky Patcher, Quickboot, and TBackup.

Yea there are a million f tutorials on tasker
Just use the search function
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[Q] Removing Apps from Custom ROMs

Although I had rooted my SK4G a while back, it took me a while to get the courage to flash a ROM.
But yesterday, I successfully flashed MeMory. First off, many thanks to TheLastSidekick. He did such a better job than TMobile devs.
I could go on and on about his great work, but my only complaint is about Lightening Launcher which I can not warm to. I purchased and installed Holo Launcher Pro and would like to get rid of LL. Forgive my noob question, but are apps such as these removable in a custom ROM? Or do I have to freeze them with a third-party app. Or is LL a necessary component of the OS, used or not?
For that matter, I wouldn't mind getting rid of the stock browser, either. But again, I don't want to break anything.
Again, especially, thank you, LastSideKick,
Jake

adb shell
cd system/app
ls
rm eachappyouwanttoremove.apk
When your finished reboot
So no, not needed if you have another launcher
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Thank you for a quick, very helpful response.
Been running MeMory for two days now, and have yet to see the same problems I had w/ the rooted stock ROM: the maddening delays when trying to get to Phone, the occasional inability to physically answer a call, and the general slowness going from app to app.
Memory managment seems much better as well.
I hate that cliche "breathed new life into my phone," but MeMory really has
Jake

I've been using MeMory for almost a year with only one complaint: the JB keyboard does not work. Does it work on your phone?
In addition to using ADB, you can use a 3rd party app like Root App Delete by TopDev to remove system apps (those that came with the custom ROM). There's also a mode to disable an app first to make sure your phone works without it.

I have noticed crashing w/ JB keyboard. I must admit, I didn't pay much attention since I always use the physical KB. Thanks for the Root App Delete tip. I may look into that or just blast away with ADB and delete LL. But I would like to test the removal of the stock browser to see how phone functions without that.
Jake

I usually use the physical keyboard, too, but sometimes it's more convenient to use the screen keyboard. You can install the keyboard of your choice (Swype, Swift, Perfect Key, etc.) and then remove the JB keyboard.
I deleted the stock browser and installed a different browser with no problems.

Thanks much for your follow-up. I'm glad to hear that stock browser can be removed.
Jake

You can just disable them by renaming the extension, in case you need to have them in the future...
On the Droid2 I had to rename them *.bapk, as renaming them .bak, or *.apk.bak didn't work... VZ was wise to my first attempt, preemptively.

Here's the interesting thing: deleted gmail, stock browser successfully. Could not delete LL. I removed its apks, but it's still available in Apps and still starts. Is it hidden someplace else? Or really burned into the ROM?
Jake

Go to app store there is a app call /system/bin
This app will make all per programmed apps like YouTube or even play store deleteable
Then you just have to go to your settings apps look for launcher and delete..
Also ics keyboard is really good IMO . don't know if it works or not for the rom
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immorality said:
Go to app store there is a app call /system/bin
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Thank you for the tip, but I did not find an app named /system/bin
Are we talking about Google Play Store?
Jake

jakfish said:
Thank you for the tip, but I did not find an app named /system/bin
Are we talking about Google Play Store?
Jake
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/system/app
Sorry I am use to going into bin folder
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Ah, okay. In the meantime, I had installed "Uninstall" which is a system app remover and it finally remove LL.
Jake

/system/bin isn't an app, its a system folder. You uninstall apps from there. An app that does this uninstall system process is the donate version of titanium backup.
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Hello everyone, I am looking for advice/solution from all of you genius people.
I have decompiled an Android Pie rom. I want to delete preinstalled apps from it (bloadtware). However, when I am deleting apps from Product/app folder, they're coming back in Rom and still working on device. What could possibly making them to be installed again?
I am working on Slimbox Rom and trying to customize it for Radxa Zero.
Thanks