why does crapy network sprint get Harman kardon settings on their m8?
can we get that too is that hardware or software integration?
Just wondering what is it?
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w4itg said:
Just wondering what is it?
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Its an equalizer setting to (theoretically) make the speakers sound much better. Harmon Kardon is a high end speaker maker. It essentially does the same thing as the Beats did last year.
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Its an equalizer setting to (theoretically) make the speakers sound much better. Harmon Kardon is a high end speaker maker. It essentially does the same thing as the Beats did last year.
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We can get it if we change the false setting in the default xml in the system to true BUT it don't think it will effect sound due to not having the libs for it.
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Harmon Kardon is a high end speaker maker.
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They might have been, at one time (debatable). But, HK does nothing but buy other companies any more. They don't develop much of anything, themselves. The bulk of their branding is for high profit margin products like car audio and licensing of mass-consumer level audio tech.
You'd do better with Viper. Almost anything is better than the pre-installed audio enhancements, whether it's Beats, Harman, or whatever.
ive also read it may just be a software thing and not difference in hardware.
do you think viper is significantly better than the boomsound already on the phone?
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do you think viper is significantly better than the boomsound already on the phone?
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Viper4Android is a great mod don't get me wrong, a lot went into making this! Personally though after playing with it for literally hours in my car streaming music via BT, i couldn't get 1 setting that i felt was better than stock. Same with "Boomsound" for the external speakers. I'm completely happy with the stock "equalizer" personally. Don't see what this HK equalizer will bring to the table, i bet nothing special. I think HTC actually put a lot of time and energy into their equalizer knowing that Beats left them and this is their next big device since Beats left so they had to make it just as good if not better. I feel they've made it just as good if not better on this device :highfive:
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ive also read it may just be a software thing and not difference in hardware.
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Its definitely just an equalizer setting. They wouldn't have developed entirely different speakers for a carrier variant. Its the same thing as the Beats integration last year, which has now been replaced by BoomSound.
Read this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2737498
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Well I am in the mood/ a mission to just royally mess up my phone today and luckily the portal is chock full of suggestions and mods to help me do just that.
The first I found was the GPS fix from earlier and now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523760
Beats by DRE for all Gingerbread roms.
I went through it a bit and it didnt seem like it was gonna mess with anything (mostly different files) so I went ahead and flashed it.
Everything is working fine and there doesnt seem to be any conflicts with Voodoo Sound. Does it improve the audio? I guess I am not enough of an audiofile to really know...
Just wanted to say that it seems safe to flash and throw it out as an option
Just to help people understand what Beats is (from what I know). It is more or less an audio filter that changes how the audio is processed coming from the device. It also changes the EQ curve some to accentuate the lower frequencies and then gives you a "distorted" output.
How can you tell if it installed correctly? is there any settings? Thanks.
As far as I can tell there no settings, and they are just under the hood enhancements.
Charged up post!
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As far as I can tell there no settings, and they are just under the hood enhancements.
Charged up post!
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+1 Yeah, the reason I asked cause I couldn't tell the different after installed. I heard everyone swore that it's huge different in sound quality, well I guess not for me. Thanks.
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+1 Yeah, the reason I asked cause I couldn't tell the different after installed. I heard everyone swore that it's huge different in sound quality, well I guess not for me. Thanks.
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it may have to do with the quality of the audio card in the charge. I felt like i noticed more of a difference when I flashed this on my kindle fire than I did on my charge.
BleedsOrangeandBlue said:
it may have to do with the quality of the audio card in the charge. I felt like i noticed more of a difference when I flashed this on my kindle fire than I did on my charge.
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The charge has one of the best DACs around on a phone... That's why voodoo sound works
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The charge has one of the best DACs around on a phone... That's why voodoo sound works
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That was my whole point... A device that renders sound exceptionally well is going to benefit less from minor software tweaks than one with a ****ty card that plays poorly out of the box.
Just because someone says "build quality" doesn't mean that they mean "bad build quality".
I think Beats sounds like crap anyway. It overemphasizes the bass and muddies up the mids. It's really intended for bass heavy music and doesn't really work well for anything else, IMO.
Beats... Audiophiles? Thanks for making me laugh this morning.
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I've seen some threads in the International HOX forum, as well as a new ROM in our forum that support Dolby Mobile.
I'm on Cleanrom, and I don't really want to switch ROMS for an audio effect. I'm definitely curious though.
How can I flash Dolby Mobile onto my HOX without any ROM changes?
What about ALSA? I know MixGet is on the play store, but does it work for anyone?
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I've seen some threads in the International HOX forum, as well as a new ROM in our forum that support Dolby Mobile.
I'm on Cleanrom, and I don't really want to switch ROMS for an audio effect. I'm definitely curious though.
How can I flash Dolby Mobile onto my HOX without any ROM changes?
What about ALSA? I know MixGet is on the play store, but does it work for anyone?
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I mean heres the apk. IMO its just another gimmick like beats. Its just a different equalizer. Seriously just use poweramp or playerpro or even the equalizer app from the play store and set your settings according to your preference. Surround sound is not possible through a 3.5mm stereo jack. At best, you will get virtual surround sound which distorts or incorrectly balances sounds.
Thats my opinion. But you are better off sending a PM to XsMagical and ask him about it since he ported the ROM that contains it.
Yup that I know, a gimmick it is for sure. I wish the HOX had a wolfson dac, or a voodoo-like hack of some sort. Driving larger headphones with higher impendence doesn't quite work well here.
Right now I'm using Google music with DSP manager. I'll occasionally leave beats on while at the gym for the fun of it, usually I'm only using an equalizer though. I just wanted to hear what Dolby could do, never tried it before in my life lol.
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I mean heres the apk. IMO its just another gimmick like beats. Its just a different equalizer. Seriously just use poweramp or playerpro or even the equalizer app from the play store and set your settings according to your preference. Surround sound is not possible through a 3.5mm stereo jack. At best, you will get virtual surround sound which distorts or incorrectly balances sounds.
Thats my opinion. But you are better off sending a PM to XsMagical and ask him about it since he ported the ROM that contains it.
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The problem with that is I don't know what to set those apps to.
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I love the Voodoo headphone amp as it boosts the headphone output to a decent level, but installing voodoo sounds has its problems on ICS with calls, etc and all the know bugs. Is there a headphone amp app or widget or something? Best I've found is to make a preset EQ with everything boosted but this affects sound more than Supercurio's work on the Wolfman chip and enabling the headphone boosts.
Jetaudio is the player I've been using on my other phone. Get it from play store. Once you have it go to EQ and look at the top. There is a built in preamp. Slide the bar to 10 and watch your ears bleed. It is by far the best free player that I've used.
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Jetaudio is the player I've been using on my other phone. Get it from play store. Once you have it go to EQ and look at the top. There is a built in preamp. Slide the bar to 10 and watch your ears bleed. It is by far the best free player that I've used.
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Thanks, I'll check it out.
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Thanks, I'll check it out.
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Actually thank eollie. I'm pretty sure he's the one that let me know about it. Well it was either him or Lumin. Hard to tell the other members of TFTN apart anymore. lol
I'll give Jet a try myself.
Not to hijack, if anyone knows of dev info on compiling new codecs for Android, would you PM me? The lack of Apple lossless keeps me from using my phone for music.
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Can you really tell the difference between lossless and compressed? I've tried with some really good earbuds and it's super hard for me to tell. Try talking some albums that you know really well and converting them to mp3 at 224. If you can tell the difference from the phone I'd be amazed.
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Actually thank eollie. I'm pretty sure he's the one that let me know about it. Well it was either him or Lumin. Hard to tell the other members of TFTN apart anymore. lol
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673917
Yeah, I use Grado cans and anything below 512 kbps is like nails on a chalkboard to me. My library is all Apple lossless at this point and transcoding on the fly is a complexity I'd rather not deal with.
Edit -- Switching to IEMs has made anything compressed even at 512 kbps rather painful. As full-rate Apple Lossless or Flac is typically around 800-1000 kbps, at least for me, there isn't any meaningful gain for the pain.
jetAudio does support Apple Lossless now, and doesn't have the gaps between tracks that used to plague older Android players. It's got it's own usability issues, but it does a decent job.
Now if I can figure out why Voodoo Sound occasionally stops working for me to control amp gain so I can keep the digital gain maxed out.
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jetAudio does support Apple Lossless now, and doesn't have the gaps between tracks that used to plague older Android players. It's got it's own usability issues, but it does a decent job.
Now if I can figure out why Voodoo Sound occasionally stops working for me to control amp gain so I can keep the digital gain maxed out.
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Since I stopped using my 4g as a phone and just use it as a music player voodoo sounds has worked all the time every time. I think receiving phone calls might be what is causing it to stop working. I few others have reported the same. Something to take a look at at least. If your using jet it has it's own built in pre amp that works well.
I think that maxed out issue you are talking about is a setting in voodoo app causes the db keep going up
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I think receiving phone calls might be what is causing [Voodoo Sound] to stop working.
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I seem to be finding that either placing or receiving a call "disconnects" Voodoo Sound from the analog gain.
The preamp control in jetAudio is a little different -- Voodoo has the benefit of keeping the digital gain as high as possible and just using the audio gain, which should improve sound quality by keeping digitization noise lower.
I have logs for that i go on wheresmycellphone.com and call my phone run logocat right before the call. No one has provided logs yet ? There seems to be dual speaker mode thats changed and an audio route problem. Do u want me to up logs. Does voodoo work on any of ics roms with just dsp manager and how do u tell if it is working really. I think the tv out driver plays a slight role as well there is bluetooth sharing enabled during call when headset not being used or anything.
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I seem to be finding that either placing or receiving a call "disconnects" Voodoo Sound from the analog gain.
The preamp control in jetAudio is a little different -- Voodoo has the benefit of keeping the digital gain as high as possible and just using the audio gain, which should improve sound quality by keeping digitization noise lower.
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I bet you still listen to vinyl don't you. LOL I see your point for sure but on my earbuds I can't tell the difference. As long as it's loud and clear and loud it's good enough for me.
I do. And on audiophile the dsp manager says does not work with hardware on last tab to the right
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Hi,
Some people have ported Beats Audio, xLoud and Mobile Bravia Engine to several of the android phones.
Is it possible to port it to Atrix 2?
Will it really increase the performance?
There are several methods available online..
(A simple google search will show the results... I am not able to post the links as i am a new member)
Have anyone tried it??
Any senior members willing to try this?
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Hi,
Some people have ported Beats Audio, xLoud and Mobile Bravia Engine to several of the android phones.
Is it possible to port it to Atrix 2?
Will it really increase the performance?
There are several methods available online..
(A simple google search will show the results... I am not able to post the links as i am a new member)
Have anyone tried it??
Any senior members willing to try this?
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I have installed Beats Audio and it works fine, yes it does increase audio performance. To install Beats Audio you need to root your phone.
I haven't tried xloud and bravia, so I cant comment on that.
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I have installed Beats Audio and it works fine, yes it does increase audio performance. To install Beats Audio you need to root your phone.
I haven't tried xloud and bravia, so I cant comment on that.
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thanks for the reply. I will try beats audio.. but have anyone else installed the other two..
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thanks for the reply. I will try beats audio.. but have anyone else installed the other two..
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For the love of everything even remotely good in life, do not do this. Beats audio and really any other mod are TERRIBLE and degrade audio quality. if what you want is something that drives the base hard and washes everything else out, I suppose it does a damn good job, but it kills audio quality. If you want good performance, buy some decent headphones, nothing less than $100 or so, but you don't need anything crazy, and get a good player with an equalizer like poweramp.
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For the love of everything even remotely good in life, do not do this. Beats audio and really any other mod are TERRIBLE and degrade audio quality. if what you want is something that drives the base hard and washes everything else out, I suppose it does a damn good job, but it kills audio quality. If you want good performance, buy some decent headphones, nothing less than $100 or so, but you don't need anything crazy, and get a good player with an equalizer like poweramp.
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Thanks for the info... then i am not changing it... but what do you think about the bravia engine?
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Thanks for the info... then i am not changing it... but what do you think about the bravia engine?
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I have never used it, but obviously none of these can change the hardware of the phone, they are basically fancy equalizers. All equipment is different, and that is the main point to equalizers (not to adjust sound for the type of music, the recordings are mixed how the producer intended, but to adjust for different listening hardware. for example, small headphones often need more bass volume to sound good, while large speakers might lack on the low to mid end.) That said, some of these enhancements might improve quality on the device they are intended for, as they can change what is needed to get good sound there.
You can try any of these, and see what you think, as everyone has different tastes, but to get the best quality sound, I would still recommend high quality listening gear, and a good equalizer you can play with to get the sound you want.
I mostly listen with ER6i in ear headphones, which are noise isolating (not electronic canceling), so they block a lot of sound, and have really good quality for in ear headphones. They don't make the same ones any more, but they were around $100, so I'm sure there is a replacement model. I use Poweramp as my player, and it has a 10 band EQ that I tweaked for my headphones to sound best.
Well i have installed all of these and my audio is better..performance is better. From my point of view..it doesnt hurt anything.
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Well i have installed all of these and my audio is better..performance is better. From my point of view..it doesnt hurt anything.
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Shame on you! Difference of opinion I guess, but my guess is it is still the same as the tv store effect. the brighter the better seeming at fist glance.
Anyways, always feel free to try things out, but make sure you know how to remove them. I made a beats remover that is in the general section somewhere, but they might have updated since then, so no guaranty that it will work.
Beats audio thing was just a screw up. It made the audio quality bad for me. I tried Acid audio engine which worked fine. It did boost the audio quality for me a lil bit !
bravia engine link plz
plz past the bravia engine link
becoz which i found is having some user specific issues
so plz upload the link or bravia engine
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plz past the bravia engine link
becoz which i found is having some user specific issues
so plz upload the link or bravia engine
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Root ur fone and download PIMP MY ROM from GPlay it has all the above mod's
Be careful when u install them do it on a stock ROM......
As iksraner says its really BS and isn't worth downloading .........
Hi
Can anyone please recommend a good global equaliser app for the U11+?
I used to use Viper4Audio but as this is only for rooted phones it is hard finding a replacement that works as well on the U11+.
Thanks
Aussie
I literally embarked on a search for one today. I just got this device and already miss my old one which had a system-wide EQ. Here's the one I tried that worked. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devdnua.equalizer.free
I do get a notification prompt that the app is running in the background and that leaves me worried about battery drain. I shall keep searching until I find an almost perfect one or until a custom ROM with Dolby ATMOS gets released.
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I literally embarked on a search for one today. I just got this device and already miss my old one which had a system-wide EQ. Here's the one I tried that worked. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devdnua.equalizer.free
I do get a notification prompt that the app is running in the background and that leaves me worried about battery drain. I shall keep searching until I find an almost perfect one or until a custom ROM with Dolby ATMOS gets released.
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Thank you. Yes I agree. HTC releases a phone with quality audio DAC but no system-wide/global EQ.
V4A is ideal but only works on rooted phones with permissive kernel, so for now we are left searching.
Cheers
Aussie
albert0pia said:
I literally embarked on a search for one today. I just got this device and already miss my old one which had a system-wide EQ. Here's the one I tried that worked. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devdnua.equalizer.free
I do get a notification prompt that the app is running in the background and that leaves me worried about battery drain. I shall keep searching until I find an almost perfect one or until a custom ROM with Dolby ATMOS gets released.
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Hi I tried that app but as soon as I put the higher frequencies up the volume decreased and it changed the dynamics of the sound a fair bit. Same with the bass.
There ust be compatability factors with some devices that have enhanced (preset) EQ.
Cheers
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Thank you sir for this equalizer. It works on my HTC u 12+
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Hi
Can anyone please recommend a good global equaliser app for the U11+?
I used to use Viper4Audio but as this is only for rooted phones it is hard finding a replacement that works as well on the U11+.
Thanks
Aussie
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I use Neutron. It's not system-wide,but its 30-band equalizer gives pretty awesome sound. My Youtube sounds pretty decent with these Usonic setups i have. About viper i don't know if it's good for our device. It only has 48khz drives. You are right though. I miss Viper sound... HTC must give us in a future update(...)a system equalizer
Hi.
I use Poweramp.
That's the perfect HiRes player.
Perfect sound on Bluetooth and on cabled headphones.
Just great.
Take care
Schuertzi