My M8 keeps wanting to update OTA. I rooted with weaksauce and got s-off with firewater. Is it safe to do the OTA update? If so will I still have root / s-off after the update? Sorry, I'm new to Android rooting.
I'm a beginner too, don't do what I say
From what I know, it should work if you flash the stock recovery through ADB from this thread:
AIO VZW M8 Developer Resource Thread
And then installing the OTA.
From what I (think) i (might possibly) know: An OTA installs "stuff" through the stock recovery, therefore if you have a custom one it wont work.
As I said, I'm a beginner too. If you do what I said above, there is a decent chance it wont work. That's because I'm guessing.
So if you are bored and have 500 spare M8s laying around, go for it.. Otherwise wait for a more experienced guy to find this thread.
(this post is my way of saying that I'm curious too.)
Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
This is a question that has been answered time after time. You will NOT lose S-OFF. You need the stock recovery in order to take it and will need a custom recovery to flash super zip or install weaksauce and superuser.
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The Stig 04 said:
This is a question that has been answered time after time. You will NOT lose S-OFF. You need the stock recovery in order to take it and will need a custom recovery to flash super zip or install weaksauce and superuser.
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Sorry, all the posts I found had people who flashed a custom recovery. I didn't flash a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP. So if I do the OTA, I need a custom recovery afterwards in order to install weaksauce and superuser? When I first rooted, I just installed weaksauce (not from recovery) and it worked fine.
You can just install weaksauce and superuser
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You can just install weaksauce and superuser
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Thanks, I appreciate you help.
The root you get from weaksauce and superuser is just a partial, temporary root. For a full root, you need to flash a custom recovery through fastboot, and then flash a supersu zip through your custom recovery.
Check out this thread: How to Achieve Permanent Root and S-Off
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Hello. I am new to the HTC one x coming previously from an HTC inspire. I am with att. I followed the directions and unlocked the bootloader. I have been reading and noticed S-Off is still being worked on. I'm Confused on what my next step is to load a custom ROM. Sorry I know this has probably been answered but I'm still confused. Can I do the next set of steps without a computer and just do it from my phone? I downloaded an app called recovery manager not sure of that will help me out. Thanks for any help you guys can provide. I'm on 2.20 and 4.0.4 thanks again.
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I think at that time after unlock of the bootloader you will need to install a recovery software the one we use is TWRP i would stick with 2.2.0.0 and install it thought goomanager that is avaliable though the play store.
Instructions : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677447
To use goomanager I need to be rooted though right?I don't think I'm rooted. Farthest I have gotten so far is unlocking the bootloader. And I'm not sure what to do after that. I'm not sure if I can do the rest from my phone (which I hope I can). Thanks ks for your help.
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You'll have you fastboot flash SU.. I don't remember where to get the file or the command.... Sorry
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unlock bootloader, flash twrp in fastboot, then flash file below in twrp
CWM-SuperSU-v0.98.zip
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unlock bootloader, flash twrp in fastboot, then flash file below in twrp
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Do you absolutely have to flash SuperSU to flash ROMs? Can you just go right from TWRP and flash a rooted ROM and be considered as "rooted"?
Thanks
Lunatic00 said:
Do you absolutely have to flash SuperSU to flash ROMs? Can you just go right from TWRP and flash a rooted ROM?
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Hmmm I'm pretty sure you can flash a rooted Rom
Lunatic00 said:
Do you absolutely have to flash SuperSU to flash ROMs? Can you just go right from TWRP and flash a rooted ROM and be considered as "rooted"?
Thanks
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You can just flash a custom ROM, which will have SuperSU or SU cooked in. Only need to flash SuperSU if you want to stay on stock ROM and have root.
you made your situation sound different. the steps i take is use my token, flash recovery, then flash a rom or supersu depending if i want a custom rom or keep using stock.
So is there anyway to keep my recovery or root when I flash an ota update?
If there is no way. Then anyway to install cwm and root from just the phone?
I do my updates etc when I have down time and that's usually on lunch or when my laptop is not around so handling everything from the phone would be very nice.
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rans0m00 said:
So is there anyway to keep my recovery or root when I flash an ota update?
If there is no way. Then anyway to install cwm and root from just the phone?
I do my updates etc when I have down time and that's usually on lunch or when my laptop is not around so handling everything from the phone would be very nice.
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You will lose root when flashing an OTA, but it is just one extra step to flash the SuperSU (takes less than a minute) to regain root. I keep the SuperSU file on my phone and just flash it from there.
I use TWRP, and haven't lost my custom recovery while flashing 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 yet.
(I stay stock rooted - you can't safely take OTA if you aren't on the stock ROM)
jj14 said:
You will lose root when flashing an OTA, but it is just one extra step to flash the SuperSU (takes less than a minute) to regain root. I keep the SuperSU file on my phone and just flash it from there.
I use TWRP, and haven't lost my custom recovery while flashing 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 yet.
(I stay stock rooted - you can't safely take OTA if you aren't on the stock ROM)
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I let it restart before I flashed root. And been using cwm just preference and its gone after the 4.4.1 flash and now the 4.4.2
Except root and recovery I am completely stock.
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rans0m00 said:
I let it restart before I flashed root. And been using cwm just preference and its gone after the 4.4.1 flash and now the 4.4.2
Except root and recovery I am completely stock.
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I haven't used CWM, so can't say. But with TWRP, I flashed the update, and let the phone start up fully. Then, when I saw that root was gone, I shut down and booted back into TWRP, and flashed SuperSU. and then, booted back up. TWRP is still there.
(I'm rooted, stock ROM with custom recovery as well)
I use TWRP also. I flash the OTA, then Flash the SuperSU and then I reboot. Have yet to lose root
So not really a way of keeping cwm or root... But this is how I did it without needing a computer with me.
Flashed updated in cwm... Then flashed root... Then reboot... Used ROM manager to reinstall cwm.... Everything is good to go.
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Or do like I do wait a couple of hours for one of the great devs we have here to give us a fully working updated stock rom with su and busybox built in.
All you can ask for from a rooted stock rom.
Download the system images and use flashify to flash all the files you need.
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rans0m00 said:
So is there anyway to keep my recovery or root when I flash an ota update?
If there is no way. Then anyway to install cwm and root from just the phone?
I do my updates etc when I have down time and that's usually on lunch or when my laptop is not around so handling everything from the phone would be very nice.
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Get the pro version of SU by chainfire and check keep root
Valdeck said:
Get the pro version of SU by chainfire and check keep root
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^^^^ This
Survival mode FTW
Have the pro version. Will check that but would still lose cwm.
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I just got my m8 and want to s-off but I'm traveling and won't be able to figure that out until I'm back on my pc next week. The update keeps prompting me to take it. Is it safe to do so? Sorry if this was already answered trying to figure out the best way to browse with tapatalk.
I don't have root or anything yet...
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I used Firewater's method for permanent root, s-off and custom recovery. If I allow my phone to update will I mess things up or lose root?
Same boat here... s-off, permanent root, TWRP
The update to 1.55 downloaded but when I tried to let it install it just rebooted my phone into TWRP and that was it. Rebooted back to system and I'm still on the 1.12.605.11 software. Checking software update status shows "Result: Update Failed,410"
N00bs. Lol. You need a stock recovery to flash an OTA. Also, I am s-off and I had a flashback to a stock recovery to flash the OTA . Everything is still fine and then I flashed back to a custom recovery no problem
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Totally a noob here, How do you flash to a stock recovery?
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You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
There are also videos on YouTube on flashing recoveries to the m8 if you need more help.
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Justintoxicated said:
I just got my m8 and want to s-off but I'm traveling and won't be able to figure that out until I'm back on my pc next week. The update keeps prompting me to take it. Is it safe to do so? Sorry if this was already answered trying to figure out the best way to browse with tapatalk.
I don't have root or anything yet...
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You can install the update, and when you have the chance you can s-off using the weaksauce/supersu/firewater method. I picked up a new M8 a couple nights ago and took the update, and afterwards did the temproot/firewater method and it worked just fine. Hope this helps.
I flashed stock recovery and tried the OTA and it failed twice. I can't seem to get it on my phone through any of the methods for some reason.
In order to install update, you need to have STOCK recovery and STOCK Rom....NOT debloated or with mods....STOCK.
Again, you need STOCK recovery using a STOCK Rom.
If you have modified the system in anyway, it WONT work until you put it back to STOCK.
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^you can have bloatware frozen and it'll work, just can't be removed.
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dadams312 said:
I flashed stock recovery and tried the OTA and it failed twice. I can't seem to get it on my phone through any of the methods for some reason.
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z-man79 said:
Totally a noob here, How do you flash to a stock recovery?
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KnightDavid said:
Same boat here... s-off, permanent root, TWRP
The update to 1.55 downloaded but when I tried to let it install it just rebooted my phone into TWRP and that was it. Rebooted back to system and I'm still on the 1.12.605.11 software. Checking software update status shows "Result: Update Failed,410"
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z-man79 said:
I used Firewater's method for permanent root, s-off and custom recovery. If I allow my phone to update will I mess things up or lose root?
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No need to take ota. Ota us our enemy. Lol. The ota has been pulled an you can simply flash the firmware an that's half of the ota an then flash a stock Rom based off 1.55 or install the backup that was posted of a pure stock 1.55 Rom. After those 2 things you will have the full ota. New radios everything.. flashing a stock recovery taking ota flashing back is not needed.
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Thanks guys it was annoying having that update keep popping up and no real computer to lookup info or soff. As for getting updates after roming the phone usually just wait for authors to incorporate the updates. But I did not realize you can't have two recoveries like you can on Motorola phones which is good to know.
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New to android here.
I rooted the device with WeakSauce and use Firewater for S-Off. I didn't flash any custom recoveries. I did freeze some apps with Titanium Backup. If I do the OTA, 1) will it work? and 2) will it remove my root and/or s-off?
NoFanboy said:
You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
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For clarification, after flashing the stockrecovery.img you posted and installing the update, there should be no problem flashing back to CWM recovery after the fact?
Thank you for your help and your time!
skivvies said:
For clarification, after flashing the stockrecovery.img you posted and installing the update, there should be no problem flashing back to CWM recovery after the fact?
Thank you for your help and your time!
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Nope there will be no problem.
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richii0207 said:
In order to install update, you need to have STOCK recovery and STOCK Rom....NOT debloated or with mods....STOCK.
Again, you need STOCK recovery using a STOCK Rom.
If you have modified the system in anyway, it WONT work until you put it back to STOCK.
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All your big words confuse me...will it work with custom rom's and recoveries?
I don't remember ever having to have stock recovery and stock rom for my old DNA to take an update. Normally devs would update their rom with the updates and all we had to do was fastboot flash the new radio.
NoFanboy said:
You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
There are also videos on YouTube on flashing recoveries to the m8 if you need more help.
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So I flash the file you linked to, thank you but when I try to get into recovery I get a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Seemed pretty straight forward.
sfreemanoh said:
All your big words confuse me...will it work with custom rom's and recoveries?
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Lol, I had to. I just know someone is going to start a thread saying "update won't work, it just boots into twrp"
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z-man79 said:
So I flash the file you linked to, thank you but when I try to get into recovery I get a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Seemed pretty straight forward.
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Hold the volume up button and pressed the power button to get to the recovery menu.
Anyone know when the next update will be for the Verizon M8?
Tomorrow.
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Quadrider10 said:
Anyone know when the next update will be for the Verizon M8?
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We just an update last week. Nobody will have this answer.
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im debating when to root my M8... i want to root it and get TWRP but still want the OTA updates.
Quadrider10 said:
im debating when to root my M8... i want to root it and get TWRP but still want the OTA updates.
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Just like with this last ota, devs we'll have flashable zips within a day or two. You won't miss anything by being rooted. Flash away my friend.
cntryby429 said:
Just like with this last ota, devs we'll have flashable zips within a day or two. You won't miss anything by being rooted. Flash away my friend.
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so if i want to do the OTA update, i just have to flash the stock recovery or just flash the OTA in the custom recovery? after the OTA will i loose root? either way?
also is there an all in one toolbox for this stuff?
You gotta browse some threads, bro. All right here.
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You gotta browse some threads, bro. All right here.
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ive been reading all night! lol
from what i got is that to do the OTAs i need to flash stock recovery than do update, then re-root and flash custom recovery again. but idk if i have to re-root if i flash the OTA via custom recovery?
Hey when I did the ota update dude didn't even have to flash stock recovery I just followed the instructions flashed via my computer with adb once that happened stock recovery will be back on so then you just have to reflash a custom recovery and that's it.
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Quadrider10 said:
ive been reading all night! lol
from what i got is that to do the OTAs i need to flash stock recovery than do update, then re-root and flash custom recovery again. but idk if i have to re-root if i flash the OTA via custom recovery?
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You can't get the ota with a custom recovery. You need the stock recovery then you take the ota then you can flash the custom recovery again and flash supersu if you lost root. Some lost root and some didn't. I did
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The purpose is to flash ROMs and if an update comes out, then wait for another ROM based on the update and never lose root. So flash away and enjoy the ride...
NoFanboy said:
You can't get the ota with a custom recovery. You need the stock recovery then you take the ota then you can flash the custom recovery again and flash supersu if you lost root. Some lost root and some didn't. I did
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To expound on that a bit more, OP - this is assuming you have S-OFF/Unlocked BL so then you are able to re-flash the recovery, and, thus, re-root by flashing Superuser.
At least, that's what I'm thinking is necessary. If not then someone can correct me if needed.... =x
Finally tried gaining s-off with Firewater last night and got the whelp message so figure sunshine is only option. Just a quick question with respect to getting up to date. Should this be the order I proceed in:
1. Sunshine
2. Take OTA to get current firmware/radios
3. Flash TWRP via adb.
4. Install new ROM
Downloaded the new CleanROM last night but might wait a bit before going with it as daily. Oh, and does the OTA just do an update without a full wipe?
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mumbles202 said:
Finally tried gaining s-off with Forrester last night and got the whelp message so figure sunshine is only option. Just a quick question with respect to getting up to date. Should this be the order I proceed in:
1. Sunshine
2. Take OTA to get current firmware/radios
3. Flash TWRP via adb.
4. Install new ROM
Downloaded the new CleanROM last night but might wait a bit before going with it as daily. Oh, and does the OTA just do an update without a full wipe?
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If you're going s-off there's no need to take the OTA...flash TWRP, flash the latest firmware and then flash a new rom and you're good to go. It's best to get in the habit of never taking an OTA.
Thanks. Don't think I've ever taken one other than on my work phone, just wasn't sure when I would be changing Rom to one with new base and firmware. Thought there might be some improvements with new radios and firmware until I switched.
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You could flipflop 1 and 2 and let the OTA take care of the firmware for you then run sunshine since it works on 4.4.3
Should I uninstall sunshine after running it and gaining s-off?
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I've never used sunshine so I couldn't tell you for sure. But I don't think you need it anymore so I don't see the harm in removing it. You don't need it to get root back if you ever lose it, and if you were to lose S-OFF for whatever reason you'd still have to pay $25 regardless of you having it installed or not...so yeah lol
Makes sense. Btw, thought sunshine required root? If Weaksauce doesn't work in 4.4.3 how does sunshine gain root?
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Will custom rom works in all countries or they available to all countries. .....unlike official roms
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Ok , so plan to run through this tomorrow, just want to triple check I have the steps right(currently on 4.4.2 with Weaksauce)
1. Run Sunshine, obtain s-off
2. Take OTA (I know I could just flash firmware)
3. Flash TWRP via fastboot
4. Reboot into recovery, flash SuperSU
5. Run like this for a few days
6. When ready flash new ROM via TWRP
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If your phone is on firmware 4.4.2 keep trying firewater and it will work. Dont open su just install it, and after doing the adb reboot open up weaksauce to make sure it shows your rooted I have found that is where the problem getting firewater to work lies.
If your getting root after the adb reboot then it will work on firmware 4.4.2, but if weaksause is not giving root after adb reboot then firewater will fail every time.
I have done many for people using firewater and it always wont work for me until I manually open waeksauce after you do the adb reboot and it reboots the phone.
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mumbles202 said:
Ok , so plan to run through this tomorrow, just want to triple check I have the steps right(currently on 4.4.2 with Weaksauce)
1. Run Sunshine, obtain s-off
2. Take OTA (I know I could just flash firmware)
3. Flash TWRP via fastboot
4. Reboot into recovery, flash SuperSU
5. Run like this for a few days
6. When ready flash new ROM via TWRP
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If your phone is on firmware 4.4.2 keep trying firewater and it will work. Dont open su just install it, and after doing the adb reboot open up weaksauce to make sure it shows your rooted I have found that is where the problem getting firewater to work lies.
If your getting root after the adb reboot then it will work on firmware 4.4.2, but if weaksause is not giving root after adb reboot then firewater will fail every time.
I have done many for people using firewater and it always wont work for me until I manually open waeksauce after you do the adb reboot and it reboots the phone.
Thanks. I've tried Firewater a few times w/o much luck. Tried it both w/ SuperSu and Superuser and had same results. Just retried it after opening the Weaksauce app but it did the same.
Do you know if the rest of the steps are correct if I have to use Sunshine?
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Thanks. I've tried Firewater a few times w/o much luck. Tried it both w/ SuperSu and Superuser and had same results. Just retried it after opening the Weaksauce app but it did the same.
Do you know if the rest of the steps are correct if I have to use Sunshine?
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Whatever you do DO NOT take an OTA. There's no reason for it and it may cause more trouble than it's worth.
Download and run Sunshine. Now you're S-off and bootloader unlocked.
Flash TWRP 2.8.0.1 in fastboot
Then go here, download and flash the 4.4.3 firmware and radios in fastboot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723159
Now you are ready to flash any 4.4.3 based custom rom like CleanROM 2.0