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Something is breaking the GSM Radio in US CDMA TP2's from being used with US GSM operators. Trying both a ATT and TMo SIM in a Sprint TP2 fails - network search shows no networks available.
Closer inspection shows that while the devices are SIM unlocked, they Ignore/Reject any networks with US MCC's.
Attempting to show networks with MCC 310 and 311 failed, while 334 and 666 showed up just fine.
Running the fieldTest utility (not to be confused with fieldTrial) shows the GSM radio a-flutter with activity, finding and listing UMTS and GSM networks stateside.
I've poured over the registry and nothing sticks out as the culprit for this behavior; I fear that certain MCC's are locked out of the baseband - but I'm not sure how one would go about examining such configurations and removing such limitations.
Thoughts?
Forgive my naivety, but will this benefit people like me who are VZW subscribers? Is there GSM speeds that CDMA can't reach in certain areas, which unlocking the other radios would allow us to automatically latch onto?
I'm just wondering if this discussion is geared more towards those trying to unlock to move to ATT, or if it can benefit us all equally.
fronc said:
Forgive my naivety, but will this benefit people like me who are VZW subscribers? Is there GSM speeds that CDMA can't reach in certain areas, which unlocking the other radios would allow us to automatically latch onto?
I'm just wondering if this discussion is geared more towards those trying to unlock to move to ATT, or if it can benefit us all equally.
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I have accounts with Sprint, Verizon, and ATT. If I can pop in my ATT SIM in my Sprint TP2, and switch service at will (depending on coverage or preference), it would be most excellent.
Maybe I don't get it, but isn't this known? I thought the GSM radios were locked out in the U.S.? It has something to do with FCC compliance?
I believe US GSM frequencies are locked out via software and hardware, either by request of the CDMA carriers and/or the FCC's requirements.
jasonjoo said:
I believe US GSM frequencies are locked out via software and hardware, either by request of the CDMA carriers and/or the FCC's requirements.
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It's an FCC thing, they have not authorized the GSM radio in it for use in the United States, even though it can do 850/1900 GSM. I'm afraid the GSM in these things is strictly for traveling outside the USA. It will show the GSM networks here, as you have found out, but the networks here will not allow it to use them, so no amount of hacks will make it work.
californiarailroader said:
It's an FCC thing, they have not authorized the GSM radio in it for use in the United States, even though it can do 850/1900 GSM. I'm afraid the GSM in these things is strictly for traveling outside the USA. It will show the GSM networks here, as you have found out, but the networks here will not allow it to use them, so no amount of hacks will make it work.
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Are you sure about it being an "FCC thing"?
There have been a few reports of people getting an unlock code, and getting their hybrid TP2 to work domestically...sans 3G connectivity, apparently.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555067
The cheapest I've found for an unlock code for the TP2 is $20 from here:
http://www.uniquephones.com/
but I don't know what their success rate is like; some companies charge as much as $35 for one.
That's a Canadian version though, I'm sure the models sold there are not subject to US FCC Laws.
Edit-I found this- http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/05/20/htc-passes-cdma-gsm-hybrid-touch-pro2-through-the-fcc/
californiarailroader said:
That's a Canadian version though, I'm sure the models sold there are not subject to US FCC Laws.
Edit-I found this- http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/05/20/htc-passes-cdma-gsm-hybrid-touch-pro2-through-the-fcc/
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Hmm... SIM lock and firmware lock--both "modifiable". I have hope.
I give it a month max till there is a workaround.
californiarailroader said:
That's a Canadian version though, I'm sure the models sold there are not subject to US FCC Laws.
Edit-I found this- http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/05/20/htc-passes-cdma-gsm-hybrid-touch-pro2-through-the-fcc/
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The Verizon version if you get the unlock code, it will work in the US GSM.
Gsm not enabled
Hi does anyone know if there is a work around for this it sounds like a firmware thing and not a hardware limitation also I have installed 6.5 on my GSM TP2 is there an SPL for the cdma version yet sorry to post here on this however im trying to get to the bottom of this
Thanks in advance for any help
I got my Verizon TP2 unlocked (just emailed support and they mailed back the unlock code). Popped in my Orange (UK) SIM, told the phone to use GSM only and was able to TXT/call from it and receive calls/TXT just fine via my UK number. (I'm physically in the US).
So it's not a lock so much on registering with US networks... but it may be a lock on US GSM SIM cards so you can't go toss in your TMobile (US) SIM and dump VZ service.
--Chris
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I got my Verizon TP2 unlocked (just emailed support and they mailed back the unlock code). Popped in my Orange (UK) SIM, told the phone to use GSM only and was able to TXT/call from it and receive calls/TXT just fine via my UK number. (I'm physically in the US).
So it's not a lock so much on registering with US networks... but it may be a lock on US GSM SIM cards so you can't go toss in your TMobile (US) SIM and dump VZ service.
--Chris
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This is great news! I like to unlock any GSM enabled phone I get for Verizon, just in case I ever decide to leave - so I can take my phone with me
I'll be unlocking mine tomorrow when I get it, if they'll allow it. I've been a customer for over a year, and they allowed it on the Storm and Tour, so this shouldn't be a problem.
I've been with them for several years and as far as I know as long as you're current on your bill they'll give you the unlock code. I had mine for 2 whole days and they gave it to me.
--chris
.mak said:
This is great news! I like to unlock any GSM enabled phone I get for Verizon, just in case I ever decide to leave - so I can take my phone with me
I'll be unlocking mine tomorrow when I get it, if they'll allow it. I've been a customer for over a year, and they allowed it on the Storm and Tour, so this shouldn't be a problem.
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Well thats good news I will see if Sprint allows me to do the same as I have accounts with AT&T and TMO also I would really like to use this on my ATT plan but it appears from reading the previous posts that perhaps US based sims are locked out I will attempt to unlock it tommorow nonetheless and see what happens on the other hand my VZW Storm worked like a charm after getting it unlocked ........... for some reason this seems different though if the FCC notice is read at face value Anyone having any experience with this giving feedback would be much appreciated
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I've been with them for several years and as far as I know as long as you're current on your bill they'll give you the unlock code. I had mine for 2 whole days and they gave it to me.
--chris
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Are you with VZW OR Sprint
dooglesmail said:
Are you with VZW OR Sprint
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Yes are we talking VZW or Sprint?
I have had my phone two days on VZW. The CSR first said I have to wait 60 days, then checked with T2 and came back and said it is not available. I am sure he doesn't know what I was talking about. I will call again and then a third and if that doesn't work I will just email support as mentioned above. I need an unlock code before November as I will be on the road again overseas and I don't want to pay crazy International VZW rates!
californiarailroader said:
It's an FCC thing, they have not authorized the GSM radio in it for use in the United States, even though it can do 850/1900 GSM. I'm afraid the GSM in these things is strictly for traveling outside the USA. It will show the GSM networks here, as you have found out, but the networks here will not allow it to use them, so no amount of hacks will make it work.
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mmmmmmmm. do i have a fellow railroader on this site besides me??????
unorthodoxx said:
Yes are we talking VZW or Sprint?
I have had my phone two days on VZW. The CSR first said I have to wait 60 days, then checked with T2 and came back and said it is not available. I am sure he doesn't know what I was talking about. I will call again and then a third and if that doesn't work I will just email support as mentioned above. I need an unlock code before November as I will be on the road again overseas and I don't want to pay crazy International VZW rates!
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Hmmm VZW Global support was not given the instructions to SIM unlock this TP2 from HTC. Sounds strange to me, has anyone had any luck getting it unlocked in order to use and overseas SIM while overseas instead of the VZW SIM with access to high rates?
I will contact HTC.
I was wondering if Verizon would give me an unlock code even if im not a customer because I was thinking of buying a DROID 2 global off of craigslist to use overseas also how well would it work for regular use on gsm??
Let me quote:
The following qualifications must be met for the SIM (Subscriber Identity Module) to be unlocked:
Must be a Verizon Wireless customer.
• The device being unlocked must be active on a Verizon Wireless line of service.
• The line of service must be active at least 60 days.
• The line of service must be in good standing for the past 60 days.
• Only one SIM Unlock per line every 10 months.
• The customer's manufacturer's device warranty is not affected by a SIM unlock as long as the customer remains with Verizon Wireless.
— AntonioC_VZWSupport
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If you're looking to use the phone on GSM I wouldn't recommend buying a D2G that isn't previously unlocked. Unlocking these phones is mostly a matter of luck apparently.
I bought one and got the code straight from Verizon and it still didn't work. I ended up buying it to a friend that was moving to the states and then I got another one on eBay that was already unlocked.
basil.elsh said:
I was wondering if Verizon would give me an unlock code even if im not a customer because I was thinking of buying a DROID 2 global off of craigslist to use overseas also how well would it work for regular use on gsm??
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Simple answer - they can, but they will not. Personal advice: avoid Droid 2 Global if you plan to use it on UMTS networks (GSM(2G) is fine). CDMA is also fine (if you use carrier with compatible CDMA network)
Thanks for all the help guys!! Also i wasn't sure if this one had a clean esn which would have been a problem if it didn't, anyways thanks for all the help
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Simple answer - they can, but they will not. Personal advice: avoid Droid 2 Global if you plan to use it on UMTS networks (GSM(2G) is fine).
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What's wrong with UMTS?
I'm using it on a UMTS/HSPA network since June. No issues at all.
I heard the umts performance differs based on which country you are using the phone in
Yep, GY in Japan and another member here on Telstra in Australia report great experience. Others like me in Canada (on pretty. Much all Canadian operators), members from Europe, Central and South America are having issues with 3G.
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk
I use it in both Japan and Russia by the way (I'm an interpreter for the MOFA, so...), no issues in either country.
Can anybody who has purchased a device in the U.S. (either the U.S. or international version, but purchased from Motorola U.S. or a U.S. distributor) either confirm or deny this? www.fonearena.com/blog/88246/does-the-moto-g-lack-the-wifi-hotspot-feature.html
If you have a device purchased from the U.S. and *can* tether/enable and use the hotspot without difficulty, what carrier(s) have you tried it with?
Thanks!
-- Nathan
...nobody in the U.S. has so much as tried to turn on Mobile Tethering on their Moto G? :/
-- Nathan
Mine works
nlra said:
...nobody in the U.S. has so much as tried to turn on Mobile Tethering on their Moto G? :/
-- Nathan
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Works perfectly with Simple Mobile in NYC Which runs on T Mobile.
I live in the US and bought a Global 16gb Moto G. Hotspot tethering works fine.
Works fine for me 8gb us model on AIO wireless (AT&T)
kaw202 said:
Works fine for me 8gb us model on AIO wireless (AT&T)
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Why didn't you get the 16GB for only $20 more??? Seems like a no brainer really.
LordLugard said:
Why didn't you get the 16GB for only $20 more??? Seems like a no brainer really.
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Mostly because I am cheap. Also, I don't take pictures, and all of my music comes from Pandora. So I usually only end up using 2Gb for a couple of ROM backups and a few apps. :good:
kaw202 said:
Mostly because I am cheap. Also, I don't take pictures, and all of my music comes from Pandora. So I usually only end up using 2Gb for a couple of ROM backups and a few apps. :good:
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Hmmm, well if i know you in person i would just spot you the extra $20. My sis wants one and just like you was going for the 8GB model. Over my dead body i persisted, when it's only 20 for double storage.
Anyway, enjoy.
Brilliant; thanks everyone. Parents are looking to buy first smartphone, and were wondering about this feature in particular. If it works in the U.S., then I have to wonder what @motorola was smoking when they tweeted that it was disabled.
-- Nathan
nlra said:
Brilliant; thanks everyone. Parents are looking to buy first smartphone, and were wondering about this feature in particular. If it works in the U.S., then I have to wonder what @motorola was smoking when they tweeted that it was disabled.
-- Nathan
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For all I know the kitkat update might disable it in the us.
Then again. These are unlocked devices and usually the carriers disable it.
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dannyfritz said:
For all I know the kitkat update might disable it in the us.
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Good point. Any reason you (or anyone else) can think of why I couldn't load the Retail GB XT1032 firmware on a Retail US XT1032 (Global) phone?
dannyfritz said:
Then again. These are unlocked devices and usually the carriers disable it.
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That's kind of what I was hoping/expecting. The tweet threw me off. I wondered if Motorola caved to carrier demands that any phones they sell in the U.S. should just have tethering disabled, period, if they aren't going to sell them through the carriers and give them hooks to enabling or disabling it depending on how the account is built on the carrier's side.
-- Nathan
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dannyfritz said:
For all I know the kitkat update might disable it in the us.
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Good point.
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Well, we're lucky: I just finished applying the 4.4.2 OTA to a "Global" edition U.S. Retail phone (XT1032), and can confirm that Portable Hotspot still works.
So Motorola tweeter did not know what he/she was talking about.
-- Nathan
nlra said:
Well, we're lucky: I just finished applying the 4.4.2 OTA to a "Global" edition U.S. Retail phone (XT1032), and can confirm that Portable Hotspot still works.
So Motorola tweeter did not know what he/she was talking about.
-- Nathan
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Ok, what's this crap about US carriers disabling tethering? Some of my mates complained about it a while back but i never got a straight ansver. All you need to do is root and install an app. No brainier really.
ares93 said:
Ok, what's this crap about US carriers disabling tethering? Some of my mates complained about it a while back but i never got a straight answer.
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It is, as you say, crap. I don't know how things are in the rest of the world, but the mobile industry in the U.S. is a total disaster. Subsidized phones, SIM locks, and crappy preloaded software rule the day because the carriers are mortally afraid of losing control and becoming "dumb pipes", so they manufacture all this fake "value-add" out of thin air that is really nothing more than an illusion made from artificial restrictions.
Tethering is just another example of this. They want to control whether you can or cannot tether other devices to your phone and use its data connection, and since the carriers -- not the end-users! -- are by-and-large the phone manufacturers' direct customer, the carriers get their way and the handset manufacturers cater to their whims. So in the U.S., the "privilege" of being able to tether other devices to your phone is typically an additional service that the carriers usually charge extra for, or that is only included in some plans but not others.
I would argue that if you buy an unlocked phone, then none of the carriers that the phone can technically work on should have any say about how it functions. Thankfully, with the Moto G in the U.S. (at least the direct-to-customer GSM models), it does appear that this is the case. This is definitely *not* the case with all phones; if you are at all interested in reading about my experience with my unlocked iPhone, you can go here: http://www.anderson-net.com/~nathan/apple-broke-my-phone
ares93 said:
All you need to do is root and install an app. No brainier really.
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Well, sure, if you don't care about 1) having a stock software experience, or 2) warranty coverage. The stock tethering built into the OS is nearly always better than third-party solutions. And in the U.S., the handset manufacturers (Motorola included) can get away with legally voiding your hardware warranty if you tamper with the software (and with the way Motorola does boot loader unlocks through their website, they have records of each and every phone that has been unlocked). Which is, of course, absurd. But there you go.
-- Nathan
nlra said:
It is, as you say, crap. I don't know how things are in the rest of the world, but the mobile industry in the U.S. is a total disaster. Subsidized phones, SIM locks, and crappy preloaded software rule the day because the carriers are mortally afraid of losing control and becoming "dumb pipes", so they manufacture all this fake "value-add" out of thin air that is really nothing more than an illusion made from artificial restrictions.
Tethering is just another example of this. They want to control whether you can or cannot tether other devices to your phone and use its data connection, and since the carriers -- not the end-users! -- are by-and-large the phone manufacturers' direct customer, the carriers get their way and the handset manufacturers cater to their whims. So in the U.S., the "privilege" of being able to tether other devices to your phone is typically an additional service that the carriers usually charge extra for, or that is only included in some plans but not others.
I would argue that if you buy an unlocked phone, then none of the carriers that the phone can technically work on should have any say about how it functions. Thankfully, with the Moto G in the U.S. (at least the direct-to-customer GSM models), it does appear that this is the case. This is definitely *not* the case with all phones; if you are at all interested in reading about my experience with my unlocked iPhone, you can go here: http://www.anderson-net.com/~nathan/apple-broke-my-phone
Well, sure, if you don't care about 1) having a stock software experience, or 2) warranty coverage. The stock tethering built into the OS is nearly always better than third-party solutions. And in the U.S., the handset manufacturers (Motorola included) can get away with legally voiding your hardware warranty if you tamper with the software (and with the way Motorola does boot loader unlocks through their website, they have records of each and every phone that has been unlocked). Which is, of course, absurd. But there you go.
-- Nathan
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How the hell is this legal? So admittedly, I've spent exactly 12 hours in the US, so I'm far from used to how stuff works over there. But what you just described is illegal in any other country I know of. Hell, you'd try to pull this crap in the EU and they'd kick you off the market faster than you can say "huh?".
Jesus, we can even unlock bootloaders, root and do practically whatever we want with the software and they cant void anything.
Tethering not working for mw
I came here thinking people were gonna have the same problem as me, my little brother has a moto g and my girlfriend has a nexus 5, they both use the 30 monthly t mobile plan and tethering does not work at all, it takes them straight the the t mobile log in page, We all live in the US and in the 30 dollar plan, tethering is included for free, my little brothers old phone allowed tethering , and that phone was a t mobile phone, not unlocked, so any ideas on the issue.
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kaw202 said:
Works fine for me 8gb us model on AIO wireless (AT&T)
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I have mine from Aio and there is no hotspot option even showing in the settings menu where it supposed to be.. Did you bring you own unlocked one to Aio or purchase it directly from Aio??
I need to know if one version of the phone has the hotspot disabled (Motorola vs Google Play version) since I'm thinking about getting the phone and using it on AT&T.
The phone seems great for the price, but I need the hotspot for my Chrome book.
Yes..I'm wanting a GSM model, and plan to use it on my Verizon prepay..and would like to enquire is Hotspot possible..my XT1028 does NOT have the option in settings..Does the US GSM have the option in settings, and is there a mod that can be done with SQlite Editor, like with many other Motorola models.?
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NWKENT said:
Yes..I'm wanting a GSM model, and plan to use it on my Verizon prepay..and would like to enquire is Hotspot possible..my XT1028 does NOT have the option in settings..Does the US GSM have the option in settings, and is there a mod that can be done with SQlite Editor, like with many other Motorola models.?
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If your getting it for Verizon then the CDMA version from the motorola website would be the best option for you. I don't know if that version has mobile hotspot or not but the US GSM does but it does not work for Verizon which is a CDMA company.
Short story GF needs a new phone been eyeing the moto g for a while. And cricket does have a moto g through there website but one thing is the internal memory is 8GBs ,happens to be the only model crickets offers. which is clearly not enough for a app heavy user. GPE has a 16GB version on googleplay perfect size. Just needed some help confirming GPE model will work with Cricket USA. (Any limits like 3G only or LTE capable from the bands provided by google on their playstore and whatever cricket bands are.)
Also stupid question cricket use sim? (I try not to ask gf cause she will beat me knowing I'm getting her a new phone and asking that question would be dead give away)
Thanks alot
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Short story GF needs a new phone been eyeing the moto g for a while. And cricket does have a moto g through there website but one thing is the internal memory is 8GBs ,happens to be the only model crickets offers. which is clearly not enough for a app heavy user. GPE has a 16GB version on googleplay perfect size. Just needed some help confirming GPE model will work with Cricket USA. (Any limits like 3G only or LTE capable from the bands provided by google on their playstore and whatever cricket bands are.)
Also stupid question cricket use sim? (I try not to ask gf cause she will beat me knowing I'm getting her a new phone and asking that question would be dead give away)
Thanks alot
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From what I understand, Cricket is an AT&T MVNO and will use sim cards, along with the AT&T towers. Also the version of the Moto G on the Google Play store is the European one, no idea why they would do that, but that means no 3G in the U.S. I'd suggest either getting the phone through Amazon, or from Motorola themselves, as they do carry it for sale directly.
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From what I understand, Cricket is an AT&T MVNO and will use sim cards, along with the AT&T towers. Also the version of the Moto G on the Google Play store is the European one, no idea why they would do that, but that means no 3G in the U.S. I'd suggest either getting the phone through Amazon, or from Motorola themselves, as they do carry it for sale directly.
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If I buy from amazon which version model should I get the Global GSM(amazon references that model working with att so cricket is a safe bet if I'm correct just wanna make sure) or US GSM?
I've been with Verizon for eon's, and currently run the LG V10. Having compared all the other networks, Verizon has the best coverage for someone who travels around this country end to end and top to bottom, so they're going to be my only network.
I've been all through the Unlocked and Verizon versions of the Sammy's and Motorola's - other than a few versions bought in other countries (dual sim), I've never really seen a massive difference between the two. Sure the Verizon versions are forever updating their bloatware and their apps I'll never use (Newstand, Movies, etc, etc, etc.) and it's annoying, especially when I've put the apps to sleep and they just keep reanimating themselves, but they take up little space.
Can anyone tell me what the advantages are to spend an extra $130+/- more to LG to get the Unlocked Version over the Verizon version of this phone. I guess it should be noted that I'll probably never Root this phone. (Let's pretend I'm not trading in the V10 so I can get a user-comparison of what I'm getting for my money and not a comparison just based on money.)
What are the advantages of an unlocked phone?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
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I've been with Verizon for eon's, and currently run the LG V10. Having compared all the other networks, Verizon has the best coverage for someone who travels around this country end to end and top to bottom, so they're going to be my only network.
I've been all through the Unlocked and Verizon versions of the Sammy's and Motorola's - other than a few versions bought in other countries (dual sim), I've never really seen a massive difference between the two. Sure the Verizon versions are forever updating their bloatware and their apps I'll never use (Newstand, Movies, etc, etc, etc.) and it's annoying, especially when I've put the apps to sleep and they just keep reanimating themselves, but they take up little space.
Can anyone tell me what the advantages are to spend an extra $130+/- more to LG to get the Unlocked Version over the Verizon version of this phone. I guess it should be noted that I'll probably never Root this phone. (Let's pretend I'm not trading in the V10 so I can get a user-comparison of what I'm getting for my money and not a comparison just based on money.)
What are the advantages of an unlocked phone?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
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bloat free, unlocked, if you want you have option to unlock BL? id buy it just for bl unlock alone lol
If you don't plan on trying to root and don't really mind the bloat then it's not worth it. The vzw version will work out of the country.
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If you don't plan on trying to root and don't really mind the bloat then it's not worth it. The vzw version will work out of the country.
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Not all countries.
I do a fair amount of overseas travel, Europe, U.A.E., Brazil, etc ... but I have an older Sammy phone I can swap out SIM Cards for those locations.
But you're right, North America, Central America and the Caribbean it works (most) of the time.
Thank you for the insight on the differences. This is what I thought and I like these confirmations!
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Not all countries.
I do a fair amount of overseas travel, Europe, U.A.E., Brazil, etc ... but I have an older Sammy phone I can swap out SIM Cards for those locations.
But you're right, North America, Central America and the Caribbean it works (most) of the time.
Thank you for the insight on the differences. This is what I thought and I like these confirmations!
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Check the different bands for both versions. Reason why I bought the AT&T variant and not TMobile or the unlocked version was because there were 2 or more bands missing from those variants that the AT&T one supported.
I already get spotty coverage in my apartment occasionally and especially during our football gamedays with just how many people flood into the city. I didnt want the risk of having worse coverage especially with how much this phone cost.
Edit: if you want my opinion, I don't mind the bloat - just disable and be done with it. Downloaded the dns66 for adblocking. Honestly I feel like I'm not missing out on too much. It would be nice to have my phone rooted but I prefer knowing I will have reliable coverage versus not knowing and hoping for the best
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Check the different bands for both versions. Reason why I bought the AT&T variant and not TMobile or the unlocked version was because there were 2 or more bands missing from those variants that the AT&T one supported.
I already get spotty coverage in my apartment occasionally and especially during our football gamedays with just how many people flood into the city. I didnt want the risk of having worse coverage especially with how much this phone cost.
Edit: if you want my opinion, I don't mind the bloat - just disable and be done with it. Downloaded the dns66 for adblocking. Honestly I feel like I'm not missing out on too much. It would be nice to have my phone rooted but I prefer knowing I will have reliable coverage versus not knowing and hoping for the best
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Thanks for the reply - and you're right about the different frequencies on Unlocked phones. I dealt with that when I bought my Sammy in Dubai. It works great all over the world ... but it's horrible here in the States!
I'll look into that DNS66 for Ad-Blocking. As for disabling the Bloatware, I do that, but for some reason they seem to reanimate every couple months, maybe it's Verizon pushing them open when there's an update for them.
Thanks !