Till today I had been using my htc one m7 with the watch. I finally got my S5 and paired it up. I can now read full emails and not just preview, respond to text via s voice, call log, can sync all fitness, control my music as media control, access the App Store, receive all notification.
After my experience I wouldn't recommend the watch without a samsung phone.
How is your Gear 2 battery life now comparing to when you used it with M7?
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How is your Gear 2 battery life now comparing to when you used it with M7?
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Battery is still the same.. Could last about 3 days.
The killer is playing music through Bluetooth. Battery will get sucked up.
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Battery is still the same.. Could last about 3 days.
The killer is playing music through Bluetooth. Battery will get sucked up.
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I'm not playing any music, but when I have my Gear 2 Neo connected to my M8 (just connected and doing nothing), I'm experiencing ~30% per hour battery drain.
Did you update your Gear to the latest firmware (ND8)?
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I decided to document battery usage on my gear2 after initially running into some trouble with the battery. I bought 2 brand new gear2's and when they arrived, I connected one to my note 3, which has a custom rom, and the other to a s5, with a stock rom. I noticed right away that the gear connected to the note 3 was draning battery much faster. This is what I set out to troubleshoot.
First of all let me explain the issues I had between the note 3 and the gear2 that was causing the battery drain; these are likely due to my rom being custom. When I first attempted to pair the gear to the phone, it would say device not supported. To even get the gear paired I had to use titanium back to remove anything that was related to the gear manager or gear in general. I then reinstalled the latest gear manager apk from the samsung store. This did not go smoothly and I had to find some missing apks as well because the app kept crashing. I didn't document exactly how I got it working because I was just trying any and everything to get it working. I know for sure that I was missing samsungservice apk and that was causing the app to crash at one point.
Once I got it paired up, I noticed when I would boot the phone "sensor service stopped" would show up. Also, when I would open s health multiple "health service" and related services would say that they stopped. I had to remove each one of those services with titaniuim backup and then reinstall the latest s health and let s health reinstall the services I removed. Sounds complicated and most likely no one will even run into these issues, but I posted this just in case. Also, I left "sensor service" uninstalled and it doesn't appear that s health reinstalled it and everything is functioning without it as of right now.
As long as gear manager is functioning correctly and there are no error messages from s health and everything is updated, there should be no abnormal battery drain. The following are some scenarios that I documented to show what normal battery drain should look like.
First thing I did was charge the gear up to 100% and let it sit overnight, for 8 hours while I slept. I disabled bluetooth so it wasn't connected to the phone, I also went to recent apps and made sure all programs were closed and that all sensors were disabled; sleep, pedometer etc.. After 8 hours of this I lost a grand total of: 1%. I woke up with 99% battery after 8 hours.
Next night I charged to 100%, connected to the phone via bluetooth, and closed all apps again and made sure no sensors were active and turned of notifications. After 8 hours of sleeping I had lost 4%. I woke up at 96% battery remaining. So the idle drain of just the gear by itself while connectd to the phone via bluetooth is half a percent an hour. Not bad at all.
Next I wanted to test how Tizen behaved with its apps. I read that some were getting better battery life by closing all apps down when not in use. I wanted to test this. So I did the same exact thing from the previous night except I opened every possible app as well. So bluetooth connected, no sensors active, no notications, but I opened every possbile app to load them up in the recent apps (memory). My findings were exactly the same as when I closed all apps the night prior. I lost 4% after 8 hours. So don't close out any apps, it does nothing on Tizen.
I next wanted to test the heart rate monitor as it was the single reason I bought the watch to begin with. Results were impressive. I turned the continual heart rate monitor on, running mode under exercise, and monitored my heart rate for 30 minutes (the amount of time I usually run in the gym). I lost 2% in 30 minutes. Not bad at all!
Next I tested one of the newer features of the gear 2 which was its ability to store its own music and play it back via bluetooth. I hooked up some bluetooth headphones and played continual music for 30 minutes straight. I lost 6% in 30 minutes. Thats 12% an hour. A little more than I'm comfortable with and it doesn't even sync with google music. It works very well, but just drains battery too much. Much better to use the media controller and have the phone play all the music.
For the final test I wanted to do a day of what normal usage might be like. I had bluetooth connected all day, notifications enabled, motion enabled (wrist motion to turn screen on), brightness at 2, I sent/responded to 10 text messages, received 25 or more notifications, 4 short phone calls, didnt use any monitors at all (heart rate, sleep, pedometer). I didn't play any music either. Ended up with 72% battery at the end of the day. At that rate I could have gone for 3 and a half days without charging. NOT BAD AT ALL! My gear 1 would come nowhere near that number.
Anyway I hope this may be beneficial to people struggling with battery life or considering a gear2 purchase because Of battery life. I know for me personally, battery life is the reason I returned the gear 1.
Nice testing and information but I don't see any conclusions about why the one connected to your Note 3 had worse battery life other than its custom ROM. Did you try swapping watches to the other phone and running the same tests? Did you restore the Note 3 to stock and get those results?
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Nice testing and information but I don't see any conclusions about why the one connected to your Note 3 had worse battery life other than its custom ROM. Did you try swapping watches to the other phone and running the same tests? Did you restore the Note 3 to stock and get those results?
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Sorry I wasn't clear. I was getting drain when I first was able to get the gear connected to the note 3. The gear manager app and s health were both showing different errors and crashing though, so that was the reason for the drain. Once I fixed s health and gear manager the drain was on par with the other gear. If those 2 apps are screwed up and crashing or showing errors it will keep sending/requesting info from the gear or something which kills battery.
thanks a lot for your info
i really hope we gonna have a good app to see what is eating our battery...
really strange that in tizen they don't have it ...
I downloaded the recent upgrade on my gear 2 and the battery life significantly reduced from 3 days to <24 hours! I switched off bluetooth and somehow it improved to 1.5 days. Something with the latest is caused my Note 2 to constantly ping the gear2 watch.
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I downloaded the recent upgrade on my gear 2 and the battery life significantly reduced from 3 days to <24 hours! I switched off bluetooth and somehow it improved to 1.5 days. Something with the latest is caused my Note 2 to constantly ping the gear2 watch.
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Which software version are you talking about exactly?
2.0.14042803 to be exact. Thanks.
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2.0.14042803 to be exact. Thanks.
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Just read me what it says in "about gear" on the watch itself. What it says for software version.
R380XXU0BNDD and I have just upgraded gear manager to 2.1.14. Thanks in advance!
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R380XXU0BNDD and I have just upgraded gear manager to 2.1.14. Thanks in advance!
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I have the same gear manager but I am still on the stock ND8 and am not having any issues. Maybe try to flash back to ND8 if possible. There may be an imcompatibility somewhere. NDD is made for devices of other countries, so who knows.
I am based in the Philippines. Just today I got another upgrade on my gear 2 to BNE5 and still the unusual draining continues. Must be the GM app?
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I am based in the Philippines. Just today I got another upgrade on my gear 2 to BNE5 and still the unusual draining continues. Must be the GM app?
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Clear data on the manager app and start from scratch. If that doesn't work we may have to uninstall the app completely and start over. That's what I had to do.
Guys, have a look at this thread. Could be applicable to Samsung devices as well...
Thank's
lightdelegate said:
thanks a lot for your info
i really hope we gonna have a good app to see what is eating our battery...
really strange that in tizen they don't have it ...
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I also appreciate the info
Uninstalled GM app from phone and reset gear 2 and reinstall with just stock apps. Battery is still draining and worse, S health cannot retrieve profile from samsung server.
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Fixed! Deleted and reinstalled google account somehow cleaned my phone book! Now battery is draining 1% per hour!
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I have a neo gear 2 and have tried root fix with kill contact's all installed with info clock it's stating 13hrs or now 3hrs remaining. My watch seems to be using 43% cpu load always too. I have my watch paired with a Nexus 5 but kinda worried it may be a faulty battery. Watch is only 1 week old.
Dame right it sucks.... I have the Gear 2 and I get one day out of it... I have done nothing to it but add an alarm app and a counter app. I have the Gear root with Null rom and I can get 2 days out of it easy...I just needed a Gear that was water proof since I jog in all conditions...
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I have a neo gear 2 and have tried root fix with kill contact's all installed with info clock it's stating 13hrs or now 3hrs remaining. My watch seems to be using 43% cpu load always too. I have my watch paired with a Nexus 5 but kinda worried it may be a faulty battery. Watch is only 1 week old.
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Have a look here.
I noticed when I added an alarm app, battery life took a turn for the worst. I removed it, and consumption returned to about 25% per day.
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Hi Guys,
I bought a Gear S3, it was preowned, so I fear that there might be some issues with its battery, including having a faulty battery completely. Can you please guide me/confirm the following battery behaviors to be true on your Gears OR do I in fact have a bad watch and it needs to be returned?
1. When watch is off the cradle, not connected to the phone (disconnected through the Gear app), but NOT in Airplane mode, it goes from 100% battery to 0 and dead within 24 hours. Normal?
2. 100% charge, wrist gesture on, Samsung pay, no LTE, just bluetooth, used for about 12 hours, message notifications, maybe 3 - 4 hours of AOD. The day ends with about 50% charge. Normal?
3. Off the cradle, in Airplane mode, started with 100% battery, not used for 12 hours, just on the desk, ~95% battery left. Normal?
4. Slightly off topic question: When a Chromecast video is playing, watch detects it, knows the title of the video, but Play/Pause, Skip doesn't work. Normal?
Appreciate your prompt input, I need to open an RMA before the end of this week. Thank you!
Your watch is ok man. Enjoy it
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Your watch is ok man. Enjoy it
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Haha thanks Johnny! So those are all normal scenarios in your experience?
Also, any comment the controlling the Chromecast issue? ?
This is normal
I have a Gear S3 Classic with Verizon LTE. I have AOD on (Display set to 6), and lots of notifications via email and text, but almost no phone call). I uses about 50% to 60% of battery from 7am to 9pm.
AOD is the battery killer. Also Setting uses a lot of power (install app, playing with watchface, etc.). Using custom watchface (those does not dim much in AOD mode) can suck up a lot of power.
Not sure why people really care about whether it lasts 2 days or 3 days per charge. The normal use scenario is to charge your phone and watch every night.
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I have a Gear S3 Classic with Verizon LTE. I have AOD on (Display set to 6), and lots of notifications via email and text, but almost no phone call). I uses about 50% to 60% of battery from 7am to 9pm.
AOD is the battery killer. Also Setting uses a lot of power (install app, playing with watchface, etc.). Using custom watchface (those does not dim much in AOD mode) can suck up a lot of power.
Not sure why people really care about whether it lasts 2 days or 3 days per charge. The normal use scenario is to charge your phone and watch every night.
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Thank you friend for chiming in with your experience! Can you test/confirm the Chromecast issue I talked about?
Also, very interested to hear others share their battery experiences on comment on whether my watch has a possible battery flaw?
Thank you in advance!
The chromcast issue is probably normal also. Remember the Gear S3 watch is running Tizen not Android. So incompatibility is expected. I am surprised you actually get notification on Chromcast. So Samsung did the good 50% job.
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Thank you friend for chiming in with your experience! Can you test/confirm the Chromecast issue I talked about?
Also, very interested to hear others share their battery experiences on comment on whether my watch has a possible battery flaw?
Thank you in advance!
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I have a Gear S3 Classic with Verizon LTE. I have AOD on (Display set to 6), and lots of notifications via email and text, but almost no phone call). I uses about 50% to 60% of battery from 7am to 9pm.
AOD is the battery killer. Also Setting uses a lot of power (install app, playing with watchface, etc.). Using custom watchface (those does not dim much in AOD mode) can suck up a lot of power.
Not sure why people really care about whether it lasts 2 days or 3 days per charge. The normal use scenario is to charge your phone and watch every night.
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The chromcast issue is probably normal also. Remember the Gear S3 watch is running Tizen not Android. So incompatibility is expected. I am surprised you actually get notification on Chromcast. So Samsung did the good 50% job.
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Thanks for your response bud... Can you test on your side and confirm for me?
Hi guys,
after a long time, I am back with Android. I was with the "dark" side for a while, aka Apple. At least with the phone I want to be with Android again. I got myself the Mate 20 X & since I miss my Apple Watch, i got myself the Samsung Gear S3 as well. The battery on the Mate 20 x is great, but the Watch will do its best to drain that faster. Especially since it seems the connection between the phone & the watch looses a lot more connection than I ever had with the Apple Watch and an iPhone.
The Samsung Gear app already seems to be the biggest battery drain on the entire phone. For those of you also using this watch, what is the best way to do all that. Sure, I could simply decide to not use the watch connected to the phone and just use it as daily sports & watch, only syncing manually once a day. Of course that would make the watch less smart, but I suppose that would also mean having more battery life on the phone. Or is it the actual Samsung apps that are the battery problem alone ?
Any help you can give me i would appreciate.
Wolf
I use a galaxy s7 duo, and the gear app doesn't even show up in the list of apps using the battery. It may well be hidden in the 'android os' on samsung phones, however.
It's difficult for me to tell if the phone has started using more battery since I bought the S3 watch because about the same time I went fully wireless, and that is killing my phone battery anyway, so I have to charge every day.
Thats why i went for something larger in terms of battery, which is the Huawei Mate 20 X. I just dont want the watch to kill of that benefit. The phones reminds me quite often, that the Samsung Gear or more to be precise the Gear S Plugin drains more power than anything else on the phone. To remove that stuff from running in the background would of course kill the connection from the watch to the phone , which would suck.
But overall i have to say, that the connection between the Gear S3 and the phone gets interrupted a lot. Coming from my previous iPhone & the Apple watch, i hardly ever had any issues with that. Not to mention that the range between the two devices was better with the iPhone & Apple watch, than it is now with the Gear S3 and the phone.
My connection is always stable.
And battery drain from my watch is barely noticable.
It shows 1% in the table after 1 cycle but thats because i set up my watch today after flashing another rom on my phone.
What did you choose when you set up your watch?
Stay connected or did you skipped it?
I skipped it and for me its all good.
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What did you choose when you set up your watch?
Stay connected or did you skipped it?
I skipped it and for me its all good.
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What do you mean ? Watch settings or Gear App settings ?
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What do you mean ? Watch settings or Gear App settings ?
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when you set up your watch with the gear app.
reinstall gear apps and connect the watch with a new phone.
them you can restore your watch backup and choose if it should be always connected.
that probably drains much battery
I got a Galaxy Watch for Black Friday. The watch battery life has been okay and gets me 24h battery life. But the Galazy Watch4 Plugin on my phone has been destroying my phone battery life.
I have a Pixel 6 Pro and before the watch I would end the day around 20-30% battery life. Since I got the watch I'm out of power by 9-10pm. I've tried uninstalling everything and reinstalling, also reset the watch but same issue.
I'm not really sure what else to do at this point. Everything is basically default settings, I have no idea why it's draining my phone so much.
Have the same problem with this plugin in S20FE Qualcomm. Uninstalled all plugins, galaxy wear app and restored watch to factory settings and it seems to improve the problem a little bit. Still getting 1hr less SoT than usual just for the watch. It is not good at all!
Its not showing up at all on my Pixel.
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Have the same problem with this plugin in S20FE Qualcomm. Uninstalled all plugins, galaxy wear app and restored watch to factory settings and it seems to improve the problem a little bit. Still getting 1hr less SoT than usual just for the watch. It is not good at all!
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The problem is here again!
You have a Watch connected in Bluetooth all day, receiving notifications, calls, and more.
What did you except ?
Bluetooth only is a big drain.
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You have a Watch connected in Bluetooth all day, receiving notifications, calls, and more.
What did you except ?
Bluetooth only is a big drain.
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I use Bluetooth with my headphones and no problem at all. Also i've everything disable, only calls, no notifications.
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You have a Watch connected in Bluetooth all day, receiving notifications, calls, and more.
What did you except ?
Bluetooth only is a big drain.
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Eh, not as bad as I've been getting. It was 22% drain for me the other day, another was 24%. After deleting cache and storage and reinstalling the gear app. My old fossil and the ticwatch pro 3 I had did absolutely not drain the battery like this. The other one I see is Samsung health. ~9% drain daily. Samsung needs to do something about this for sure.
FYI, pixel 6 pro. Less of a drain on my pixel 4xl though. Not great either.
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I got a Galaxy Watch for Black Friday. The watch battery life has been okay and gets me 24h battery life. But the Galazy Watch4 Plugin on my phone has been destroying my phone battery life.
I have a Pixel 6 Pro and before the watch I would end the day around 20-30% battery life. Since I got the watch I'm out of power by 9-10pm. I've tried uninstalling everything and reinstalling, also reset the watch but same issue.
I'm not really sure what else to do at this point. Everything is basically default settings, I have no idea why it's draining my phone so much.
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The same problem exists on S22 Ultra oddly enough. You would think it wouldn't be an issue with Samsungs own devices. The plugin doesn't show on regular battery stats but gsam shows high usage for the wear app. Uninstalling "Galaxy watch4 manager" was the fix for me but means going without the cool watch. Same issue reproduced on OnePlus 10 Pro. Attached before and after screenshots of battery drain with and without the plugin
Guys, try to disable battery optimisation on all the apps related to watch, ex. wearable, plugin, etc. I had this issue with my OG galaxy watch and I read somewhere that by keeping the battery optimisation on for these apps, the phone trys to stop them but the apps switch on again and this cycle goes on resulting in battery drain, I have OnePlus and I disabled the optimisation and the battery was back on track with minimal plugin's battery usage
Hope it helps!
Bluetooth draining the battery is absolutely not the issue. I have had Galaxy watches for well over 5 years now. The app has never drained the phone until the last month. The Galaxy Watch 3 plugin is accounting for 40-60%of my battery drain on my Galaxy Pixel 6 Pro. I turned off battery optimization for the app to see if it helps. I just hope it doesn't take much usability of the app away.
I'm having the same problem to.
Didn't have this issue before.
Did anybody find a solution?
Cheers.