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Pushing Recovery on 3.2.6

Hi All,
I'm probably one of the few here who is still using HoneyComb instead of ICS on my Xoom. I've been on 3.2.4 for some time now, and started getting the 3.2.6 update notification which I blew off until the other day when I said screw it, I'll update and go through the trouble of re-rooting, etc.
However, I attempted to use Solarnz's universal root method which I've used numerous times before and never had an issue with until now. So after pushing the recovery.img via Fastboot, everything appears to have been completed just fine, except when I reboot into recovery I get the damn android with an error.
I've tried pushing a few versions of recovery and each time it seems to work just fine, but again on reboot, I can't get into recovery like it never got pushed or somehow has been erased. I can even revert back to 3.2.2 and update to 3.2.4 and root and re-install clockwork no problem. But I keep getting that damn update notification every 5 mins, and I'm sick of it, hence why I bothered to update in the first place.
I know most people have by-passed this altogether by jumping to ICS, but I've had too many issues with the beta ICS versions out there (WIFI handoffs and disconnects mostly) and need to reliable daily driver vice ICS goodness (fortunately I have a GNex for that).
Anyway, since I hadn't seen much on this, I decided to post and see if its just me, or if this really is an issue?
I can probably go old skool and use the manual root method of pushing the SU files via ADB, but something isn't right here, and I wanted to get some feedback.
Thanks

DANOinSD said:
Hi All,
I'm probably one of the few here who is still using HoneyComb instead of ICS on my Xoom. I've been on 3.2.4 for some time now, and started getting the 3.2.6 update notification which I blew off until the other day when I said screw it, I'll update and go through the trouble of re-rooting, etc.
However, I attempted to use Solarnz's universal root method which I've used numerous times before and never had an issue with until now. So after pushing the recovery.img via Fastboot, everything appears to have been completed just fine, except when I reboot into recovery I get the damn android with an error.
I've tried pushing a few versions of recovery and each time it seems to work just fine, but again on reboot, I can't get into recovery like it never got pushed or somehow has been erased. I can even revert back to 3.2.2 and update to 3.2.4 and root and re-install clockwork no problem. But I keep getting that damn update notification every 5 mins, and I'm sick of it, hence why I bothered to update in the first place.
I know most people have by-passed this altogether by jumping to ICS, but I've had too many issues with the beta ICS versions out there (WIFI handoffs and disconnects mostly) and need to reliable daily driver vice ICS goodness (fortunately I have a GNex for that).
Anyway, since I hadn't seen much on this, I decided to post and see if its just me, or if this really is an issue?
I can probably go old skool and use the manual root method of pushing the SU files via ADB, but something isn't right here, and I wanted to get some feedback.
Thanks
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Depending on what ROM your flashing if your trying to do the update from OTA then you have to have a 100% no bloatware removed rom, my suggestion is to download the one @ motodev and then flash 3.1 and update all the way to ICS (if wanted) otherwise I believe that when you get the (!) in recovery you can press once pwr+up fast (don't hold) and it will display the recovery window with the error message that's preventing you from upgrading.

after flashing the recovery, did you reboot into android and then into recovery? if yes, don't!
you have to reboot into recovery right after flashing the recovery.

Hi All,
Thanks for the feedback, I finally got recovery pushed and booted, along with root on 3.2.6.
As llama points out you must reboot into recovery upon rebooting from fastboot. I don’t believe this was a requirement previously. But once I did that, all was fine.
I’ve done this a thousand times before and even in my old notes I couldn’t find any reference to booting into recovery immediately after pushing the recovery.img. Is this something new with this update or has it always been this way? Call me crazy, but I can’t ever recall scrambling to catch the reboot and get into recovery before re-launching Android. I always rebooted in Android and made sure it actually loaded to ensure something didn’t get hosed, then I would reboot into recovery and flash the root zip.

DANOinSD said:
Is this something new with this update or has it always been this way?
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as far as I know, this is a 'feature' introduced with every ota-update. To my knowledge: get a xoom from a store and flash recovery right away-> everything is good; have the xoom install an ota-update and flash recovery afterwards -> do it this way

[Q] Question concerning Dragonzkiller's Droid x2 CM9 Rom

Alright, so here goes. I've searched the thread for the issue I'm having, but have come up empty handed. I'm not Droid noob, especially not when it comes to flashing roms. But, here are the details I have.
I had been following dragonzkiller's development on his ICS rom. I hadn't really put forth any effort looking lately until yesterday, and saw that he had the wifi and camera fixed, which were really my two biggest issues, so when I saw that, I was excited. I began working on getting it all running. I've had the x2 for about 5 months or so, and usually, the first thing I do, as soon as I get a new phone, is root it. Back in April, I rooted with GingerBreak. Worked good, no issues there. Back in June, apparently I still received the OTA update taking it to 2.3.5-418, which I found out last night had kinda broken my root. So, I went back to find a way to re-root. I did that, with a desktop .exe that went in, and was supposed to flash BSR to my phone also. After I ran that, all my root permissions started asking for options again, so I was relieved. Now, for the issues I'm having.
I downloaded an app in the play store called Online Nandroid Backup. For some reason, and I think this may be a dev issue with the app, it won't run a backup, and tells me that it wasn't able to be granted superuser permissions, even though it is prompting and I'm allowing. Issue number two is this. I've tried 3 different ways to get this working. I used ROM Toolbox Lite, selected the rom I wanted to flash, and wipe data and cache, no delvik. I've selected to run a backup of my current rom. When it boots into recovery, I only have 4 options. Reboot your phone, something about installing the rom from sdcard, wipe data, and wipe cache. I'm not given the backup option on the recovery. Furthermore, when I kinda just decided that since I hadn't had any trouble flashing a rom to any of my other phones I've had, I would just try to flash the rom, it gives me a prompt about 25% through the rom package saying E: signature could not be verified, or something to that extent.
Even though it has said not to use Rom Manager, I did download that and try that, and got pretty much the same outcome of no rom, just a bit different scenario going through. Rom Manager won't reboot into recovery, and when I select to do a backup, it reboots the phone straight up. I also used the manual entrance into recovery, volume up, but it tells me something about starting RSD protocol, and sticks at that forever.
My real questions are this... I've always ever used CWM. All of my previous phones have been supported by Rom Manager nicely, so when it came to downloading and flashing a rom on them, no problems at all. I have never used BSR, to my knowledge, so I'm not sure if the recovery screen I'm seeing is the actual BSR recovery, or if it's some other recovery. If it's not BSR, do I just flash it like I would a rom, then re-run into that? And does the signature issue that I'm running into mean that I have to wait for a signed version of the rom in order to work it? Is there any way to fix this issue, or am I basically SOL right this moment? Any information on how I can fix all of this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

CM 11 cripples Moto G, can't use ADB/fastboot to install CM 10

I installed Cyanogen Mod (cm-11-20140504-SNAPSHOT-M6-falcon.zip) on my 1st generation Moto G using TWRP. When I boot into CM, I keep getting the message that "Unfortunately, the process com.android.systemui has stopped". Every time I banish that popup, I get a split second of usage before it pops up again. After some troubleshooting and web searching, I found that I have to revert to CM 10. The details are documented at androidforums.com/threads/windows-mtb-usb-device-driver-error-when-moto-g-running-twrp.901001 and forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android/windows-mtb-usb-device-driver-error-t3022946
I haven't searched for CM 10 yet, but I'm scouting out the process to push it to the device. I can't find a way to get ADB to see the device, even after enable USB debugging (www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-adb-and-how-to-install-it-android and android.stackexchange.com/questions/67249/how-to-enter-usb-debugging-mode-in-cyanogenmod). Given that I only have a split second after banishing each error message, that took forever, but I confirmed that USB debugging is enabled after rebooting.
The only alternative I know to ADB is fastboot. According to forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702069, it is theoretically possible for fastboot to flash a ROM, but the zip file should contain a data.img and system.img. I checked the CM 11 zip file to see what I can expect from CM 10, and found no such img files.
Given that ADB and fastboot processes don't work for me (at least the the degree that I've explored them), what other options are there for flashing CM 10?
P.S. Does anyone know how to get exit (say) Settings or the browser and get back to the cyanogenmod start page? There is no home button, and web searching refers an icon with 3 bars on the top, which I don't have. I basically have to reboot.

my1stSmartPhone said:
I installed Cyanogen Mod (cm-11-20140504-SNAPSHOT-M6-falcon.zip) on my 1st generation Moto G using TWRP. When I boot into CM, I keep getting the message that "Unfortunately, the process com.android.systemui has stopped". Every time I banish that popup, I get a split second of usage before it pops up again. After some troubleshooting and web searching, I found that I have to revert to CM 10. The details are documented at androidforums.com/threads/windows-mtb-usb-device-driver-error-when-moto-g-running-twrp.901001 and forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android/windows-mtb-usb-device-driver-error-t3022946
I haven't searched for CM 10 yet, but I'm scouting out the process to push it to the device. I can't find a way to get ADB to see the device, even after enable USB debugging (www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-adb-and-how-to-install-it-android and android.stackexchange.com/questions/67249/how-to-enter-usb-debugging-mode-in-cyanogenmod). Given that I only have a split second after banishing each error message, that took forever, but I confirmed that USB debugging is enabled after rebooting.
The only alternative I know to ADB is fastboot. According to forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702069, it is theoretically possible for fastboot to flash a ROM, but the zip file should contain a data.img and system.img. I checked the CM 11 zip file to see what I can expect from CM 10, and found no such img files.
Given that ADB and fastboot processes don't work for me (at least the the degree that I've explored them), what other options are there for flashing CM 10?
P.S. Does anyone know how to get exit (say) Settings or the browser and get back to the cyanogenmod start page? There is no home button, and web searching refers an icon with 3 bars on the top, which I don't have. I basically have to reboot.
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This is the wrong forum to post this in. Also, Snapshot M6 is almost a year old. Flash the latest nightly. That will work better. There's no CM10 for this device since it shipped with Android 4.3, so you'd be wasting your time looking for it. Even though systemui is crashing, mtp will still work, so you can transfer files to your phone normally. Also, this should teach you, that it is dangerous to experiment with your phone without a legitimate way out of issues or a backup.

As you able to flash a custom rom via custom recovery?

Press and hold power and volume down button together till 10 secs after your phone is turned off. You will go to bootloader menu. Connect it via USB to access fastboot.

@audit13: Re. whether I can flash via custom recovery, the short answer is no. I haven't been able to get CWM working, but with TWRP, I could flash CM 11 if I first push the zip file to /sdcard with the device booted up normally. TWRP has a problem with MTP drivers (seems endemic, from what I've been able to find online), and ADB on my laptop can't see the device when it is running TWRP. I've documented this in the 1st 2 links of paragraph 1 in my original post. Unfortunately, with CM 11 installed, the laptop can't see the device at all, so no push is possible. That is the reason why I was trying to find info on flashing via fastboot in my original post. Please note that I also haven't been able to get TWRP to sideload, probably due to the invisibility of the device to the laptop.
@i_rnb: I can get into bootloader OK, but my concern is how to use fastboot to flash an OS rather than a recover. According to forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702069, it is theoretically possible for fastboot to flash a ROM, but the zip file should contain a data.img and system.img. I checked the CM 11 zip file to see what I can expect from CM 10, and found no such img files.

Did you try the latest Philz from here: https://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/falcon/
That's what I used on my xt1032 and it's fine for install ROMs via OTG and internal SD card.
Flashing via fastboot should work as long as you are able to boot into fastboot mode and the proper drivers are installed.
Stock ROMs with have the system.img or data.img files you need where as custom ROMs do not.

my1stSmartPhone said:
@audit13: Re. whether I can flash via custom recovery, the short answer is no. I haven't been able to get CWM working, but with TWRP, I could flash CM 11 if I first push the zip file to /sdcard with the device booted up normally. TWRP has a problem with MTP drivers (seems endemic, from what I've been able to find online), and ADB on my laptop can't see the device when it is running TWRP. I've documented this in the 1st 2 links of paragraph 1 in my original post. Unfortunately, with CM 11 installed, the laptop can't see the device at all, so no push is possible. That is the reason why I was trying to find info on flashing via fastboot in my original post. Please note that I also haven't been able to get TWRP to sideload, probably due to the invisibility of the device to the laptop.
@i_rnb: I can get into bootloader OK, but my concern is how to use fastboot to flash an OS rather than a recover. According to forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702069, it is theoretically possible for fastboot to flash a ROM, but the zip file should contain a data.img and system.img. I checked the CM 11 zip file to see what I can expect from CM 10, and found no such img files.
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I'm sorry, but you're misunderstanding/reading the wrong things. You WILL NEVER find CM10 for the Moto G because CM 10 simply never existed for this device. You need to look for issues which are device specific and not just general issues all over the internet. Also, you WILL NEVER find a system.img and data.img in a CM11 zip. Those are only found in the stock ROM meant specifically for flashing via fastboot. All that information can be found by looking around the Moto G XDA forums itself. You'll find a lot of helpful stuff in the General section. You can also push a zip to /sdcard. You need to boot into bootloader and then push via ADB. MTP works on the latest TWRP recovery. So you can transfer it to your phone that way too.

audit13 said:
Did you try the latest Philz from here: https://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/falcon/
That's what I used on my xt1032 and it's fine for install ROMs via OTG and internal SD card.
Flashing via fastboot should work as long as you are able to boot into fastboot mode and the proper drivers are installed.
Stock ROMs with have the system.img or data.img files you need where as custom ROMs do not.
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I need to become familiar with Philz. Being a newcomer to smartphones, it's not familiar to me. One of the fundamental requirements that I established at the outset of my search for a smartphone was to have the provider of the OS & phone be trustworthy or, failing that, go to open source so that it has the eyes of the world on it. It is also why I seek to be familiar with the source of ROMs, tools, etc. So far, I tried to download to from main sites for CWM, TWRP, and CM 11.
I know, it sounds odd these days, but I'm spoiled from before the internet days, when you can store any personal info you want on electronic organizers that had no connection, wired or wireless, to computers or the internet (which didn't exist). These days, it seems that you have to be very careful if you wish store any personal info on these personal devices. Either that, or carry a paper organizer around for the personal stuff (and I don't want to do that).
Thanks for confirming flashability via fastboot even without system.img and data.img. As it turns out, however, it isn't as promising a way ahead for me because I found out that the reversion back to CM 10 was a mistake (www.reddit.com/r/cyanogenmod/comments/2gvmqu/cm11moto_g_comandroidsystemui_is_crashing_after). The OP meant M10 snapshot, not CM 10. Which is odd, since the Moto G has no M10 snapshot (download.cyanogenmod.org/?type=snapshot&device=falcon). There's no M10 in the names of the nightly snapshots either (though that's less of a concern for me as I don't want to wander into nightly territory until I get the confidence of having my first attempt working).
I'll mull over Philz after some web search. I also distinctly recall backing up the stock Carrier ROM, so perhaps another way out is to find it and go through the details of restoring it.

my1stSmartPhone said:
@i_rnb: I can get into bootloader OK, but my concern is how to use fastboot to flash an OS rather than a recover. According to forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702069, it is theoretically possible for fastboot to flash a ROM, but the zip file should contain a data.img and system.img. I checked the CM 11 zip file to see what I can expect from CM 10, and found no such img files.
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1. Boot into Fastboot.
2. Flash TWRP recovery via Fastboot.
3.. Select Recovery from the menu and boot to TWRP recovery.
4. Put the ROM zip in a USB OTG drive.
5. Connect it to your device and mount it from recovery menu.
6. Install the zip via TWRP recovery from USB OTG.
DONE !

This is very odd.
I could not restore from my pre-CyanogenMod backups because when I browse to the date+time-stamped folders, it was empty. However, I had previously copied to contents of at least one date+time-stamped folder to my laptop.
I used fastboot to uprade TWRP from 2.8.3 to 2.8.4 in hopes of getting past the MTP driver problem, which would enable me to copy the files back to the device. Halleluya, it did allow the device to be seen in Windows Explorer. But I didn't need to use the copy on the laptop because moving to 2.8.4 also allowed the backups to be seen on the device.
I gleefully restored the backup. It said "failed", but I rebooted anyway. Unfortunately, the failed restoration was real, and I was still with CyanogenMod. I interrupted the boot process to get back to bootloader.
I reverted back to TWRP 2.8.3, hoping that it would still see the backup. I was hoping that 2.8.3 would properly restore the backup because it was created using 2.8.3. It did indeed see the backup, but the restoration still resulted in "failed", and a reboot still led to the CyanogenMod bootup.
Oddly, CyanogenMod booted properly this time without the repeated systemui popups. It's great! Though I wonder if I somehow affected CyanogenMod with the failed attempts at restoring the stock carrier's ROM. Not that I care right now. CyanogenMod awaits exploration.
But there are a couple of things that I hope someone can comment on. What might cause CyanogenMod to boot properly after upgrading TWRP and reverting back, failing to restore the stock carrier ROM with both versions? Could CyanogenMod now be corrupt? And why won't my backups restore? How can I ensure that I create good backups?
P.S. Thanks to i_rnb for the tip about USB OTG. I did not go that route because I only have the cable that came with the device.
P.P.S. I'm a bit (or rather, quite) unsettled by the randomness with which things work...

I downloaded the CyanogenMod nightly for Moto G, cm-12-20150213-NIGHTLY-falcon.zip. I got it working. Pretty robust so far, so I want to enjoy it a bit before clobbering it by attempting to restore the Carrier stock ROM. I admit that I will have to do that at some point because I need to ensure that my backups are good.
I would like to take this opportunity to recount how I got around the problems I faced. I think that others may run into this, and my story may help them get back to a working phone when it looks like it is bricked.
The problem was that CM 11 was crippled by the repeated systemui popup messages. I thought it went away, but it came back. I still don't know what triggers it. And my backups of the carrier OS either failed to restore (twrp 2.8.3) or were not visible (twrp 2.8.4). I had spent so many days trying to think of a way ahead that simply didn't care about bricking the phone anymore. After all, it wasn't doing a whole lot of good as-is. So in one of my attempts of trying something, I erased the OS in the process of re-installing CM 11. And the re-install failed. Not a good situation, since ADB worked only when an OS was running (not when a recovery was running), and the MTP driver errors prevented the device from being accessed from windows when recovery was running. It didn't matter whether I was running twrp 2.8.3, 2.8.4, or CWM. So sideload didn't work in any of those recoveries.
There was basically no way to push *any* new OS to the phone. I forgot the details, but the CM 11 imag file that was on the phone might not have been visible to the one or more of the recoveries I tried. I was so out of options that I even tried fastboot to flash to OS, and that did not succeed.
Here is what I found worked. I don't know what particular detail was responsible for the success, so it requires experimentation.
First, I un-installed re-installed the SDK tool set for installing custom ROMs, making sure that I included Google USB drivers. The subsequent update required many more things to be installed, so that might have been part of the solution. I then looked for Motorola driver apps in Windows's Programs menu, uninstalled both, and re-installed. I don't know what contribution it had to the success, as I never got the Device Manager running. Whenever I launched it, it searched for updates, came back and reported no updates and that my device was uknown, then quit. Maybe because no OS on the device was running.
The one thing that seemed to help was that, even though the device was otherwise incommunicato from the laptop, I was able to fastboot flash recoveries. After the above re-installs, a re-install of twrp 2.8.4 allowed the computer to see the device in Windows Explorer. I believe it had something to do with better-functioning MTP USB drivers in the re-install, but I can't be sure. So I was able to copy the nightly CM 12 to the device, then use one of the recoveries to install it.
But the story didn't end there. Even after the CM install, I was still getting repeated popups. This time, however, it was something other than systemui, but otherwise, the symptoms were the same. At that point, I had pretty well concluded that my experiment with Moto G was at its end, and that I would look at Blackberry (now that they committed to stay in the handset market). But I did half-heartedly experiment a bit more. Good thing, too, because the 2nd attempt at re-installing CM 12 seems to have worked. No repeated popups so far. What I made sure that I did was to wipe out anything for which there was a check box, e.g., any cache, data partition, OS, etc. Since it was a virgin phone, I could do this with impunity, so I'm not sure how well this "solution" would fit someone else's situation. Also, I did try to wipe things in past attempts, just not with so much thoroughness.
So there you have it. I hope this helps someone.

[Q] Verizon Galaxy S3- Me Messing up

As the title of this suggests, I messed up BIG TIME when attempting to get Cyanogenmod on my Verizon Galaxy S3.
Long story short, I tried putting CWM on my phone without looking up things about it, like whether or not the bootloader was locked for 4.4.2 Kitkat, which it was, and has been since 4.3 Jellybean, which I did not know at the time I tried screwing with my device (which was around a week ago), and I started trying to mess with the phone without knowing what the hell I was doing, since the last time I tried modding a GS3 was over two years ago.
Long story, well, long, I tried installing CWM via the ROM Manager app, and, upon installing it, I screwed up the recovery mode on the phone. It wasn't a big deal, until I decided I wanted to put the latest version of Cyanogenmod on it, instead of using the stock Touchwiz interface.
Well, a couple days ago, I stuck Safestrap on it, and was able to use that as a recovery mode, since the normal recovery mode was locked off, entirely.
I figured that, tonight, I would look up ways to stick Cyanogenmod on my GS3.
I found a couple ways to do so, downloaded the gapps file I needed, the SU binary update, as well as an unofficial version of Cyanogenmod to let me use 5.1 Lolipop.
Well, I wiped the cache on the phone, as well as the dalvik cache, and factory reset the thing, ad went to the folder I put the gapps, SU binary update, and CM files in, and tried installing them.
Well, the SU update went fine.
gapps won't install.
The CM file I'm using SAYS it's installed, but the phone doesn't have an OS, which is confusing me.
I don't know if the phone is bricked, I just know that I did something stupid, and I don't know how to put an operating system back on the phone, either through Kies or Odin (I can't install anything from the SD card in the phone, because now I can't access it, since when I boot it up, there's no OS, and I need one to access the files on the device).
Whenever I try using Odin to put either a stock firmware version on it, it fails.
My phone, in DL mode, says: "SECURE CHECK FAIL : RECOVERY"
I don't know what this means, but I think it means I'm pretty well screwed.
I need to get rid of CWM and Safestrap via my computer, THEN reinstall the stock recovery mode on my computer, too.
I NEED to know how to do this.
If there is ANYONE out there who can help me out, or direct me to some other thread, that would be amazing, and GREATLY appreciated.

I super messed up, need suggestions. [I fixed it like the chad I am :) ]

Cant flash twrp nor the patched magisk boot img to both slot a and b.
Bootloader is unlocked.
Flashing scripts via .bat files for stock zips of both android 10 and 12 results in "FAILED (remote: Partition product not found)" or "FAILED (remote: variable not found)" respectively.
I have no recovery.
When I had twrp, I've made the mistake of wiping my whole android 12 data, storage, and system and flashing an android 10 rom without reading up of the separate a and b boot slots nor the effects of my actions leading to bootlooping. (I've done with this other devices before with no problems). This in turn wiped the twrp recovery I had flashed and left me only fastboot commands and a twrp version up to 3.3 and 3.2 with no hope of getting usb otg to work as it was only available with the later versions of twrp and since I and now technically on an android 10 bootloader, any attempt at that time to flash twrp 3.6 was met with a (remote: Error calling AvbLoadAndVerifyBootImages Load Error) or some kind of other error I have no logs for. Now I cant even tetherboot to twrp 3.2 nor 3.3 and I get that error regardless.
[Boots to bootloader no matter what. Shows as UFS:Micron, Error reason - reboot bootloader - bootloader version is b1c1-0-4-7617406]
I believe I can get access to internal storage to flash these updates once I get a recovery tethered from the bootloader. I do not know if its possible to boot to fastbootd or whatever its called (used for write permissions/sideload update zips) even if I hadn't gotten into this predicament. I will be buying another Pixel 3 in the meantime as I have money to burn and like to hurt myself financially, and emotionally to get to my goal with this device. ( Didn't buy another one, I was committed to the cause!)
I am not a noob nor a pro, but somewhere in between. My biggest point of failure is not reading up on how the partitions are set up and the various issues others had when flashing android 10 and 11 roms. Any suggestions other than "uPdAtE tHe fAsTbOoT aNd AdB dRiVeRs" are not welcomed. Thank you. I will update once I find a soluton to my problem Which I Will.
Again, my main concern right now is getting tethered twrp to work again and need suggestions. I have older versions of platform tools and the latest so please non of those comments I see on literally every other thread.
Edit: I didn't mention this before, but I did have the ability yo sideload when I had twrp at the time before crapping everything out the window, but nothing would work and gave up. Just wanted to add if anyone was wondering.

First update, I used the propriatary "Tool All In One Tool" and I was able to boot to fastbootd, and wipe my data and storage, while updating my stock zip to android 12. Now I can tetherboot twrp 3.6.1_11-0 with the option for usb otg, wish me luck boys. I'm in.

Second update. Still stuck on first update, but weighing my options in the meantime. I flashed twrp via the flash current twrp option, but when I boot to it, touch is disabled so thats great... I can fast boot to only the twrp versions after 3.6+, so not so bad. I have no os installed, but I will try my hand again at that tool all in one tool again. I'll update tomorrow if anything comes of it.

3rd update. FROM THE BRINK OF DEATH!!! WHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! I got the pixeldust rom flashed and working like a BOSS!!!!! You won't believe the 2 days I've had trying to get this thing to work. All in all 1 out of my 3 flashdrives finally worked with otg. I had a windows recovery drive premade on it so I just copied and pasted the files there without a hitch! Thank you Google for having to make me miss work and actually do research to get this thing working again! Thank you for the guys at Tool All In One Tool for making this recovery possible, I will shout out your thread. If anyone who's in a similar situation needs any help from me or any info, I'll be glad to help. This will be the second to last update. I can also make phone calls and use data so Pixel Dust rom is good to go if that was one of your concerns. See ya!

Final update, I got crdroid flashed with root and safetynet passed, I just found out that google Pay was imbedded in gapps so now I don't need the pay app anymore to do transactions! My banking app also works, got vanced finally installed (couldn't do it on regular stock ROM) some glitches with the ROM here and there but no worries. For who ever reads this. There's hope. I fd up as bad as you can get shy of a hard brick. I still don't know too much but learned near twice as much as I knew just a few days ago. If you need help just DM me and I'll work my hardest to bring the light. This phone is absolutely amazing and on god wished google was a better company to praise. I have more plans for these phones and hope more Roms come out to support it.
I have one question however, how do I make a backup of my system/system_ext partitions? I can make a back up of everything else but that with these two Roms... I have a backup of it with my stock ROM, but it resumed to mount when I used otg... Didn't try internal yet but I'll assume the same, is it a glitch with current twrp?