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[Q] Make a trial app last forever?

So i installed this app and its a free version of a full one. it only lasts 30 days and I want to keep it forever, but I don't want to pay for it especially because i'm only a young teen without a job.
is there anything i can do???

Honestly, save some money and buy the app.
The developers of the app deserve it, even more so if you really like the app. :victory:

xulat said:
Honestly, save some money and buy the app.
The developers of the app deserve it, even more so if you really like the app. :victory:
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Agreed don't be a thief

deepscorpio said:
So i installed this app and its a free version of a full one. it only lasts 30 days and I want to keep it forever, but I don't want to pay for it especially because i'm only a young teen without a job.
is there anything i can do???
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Discussion of warez is not allowed. This is your one warning. Any future warez-related talk will result in infractions being issued.

{Off topic} Why do people pirate apps?

It really annoys the hell out of me when people like to do so called *cracking apps* when they don't even know that is. Cracking means modifying the source code illegally and using the app for free which would otherwise cost money. You ARE NOT cracking it. You are STEALING it. The developers are working day-night just to make couple of cents but you on the other hand pirating it.
Just go outside and have a deep thought about it. You are willing to spend $50 easily on shopping, whereas, you don't even pay a dime for all the hard work the dev do it for you. It is just stupid. If you found a dollar on the road you wouldn't pick it, but where it comes buying $1 app you google it day and night all day long. I am not a dev but I do understand how it's like. So please please for god's sake stop piracy.

Go go sopa! or not?

Its because they are cheap and don't understand or care that it takes a lot of time and money to develop apps.
In many cases of free apps I wish there was a way to donate to the developer as I hate using something for free that I feel I should pay for.
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Faith in humanity: lost

There is already an off topic thread, why did you create a new one? It's just cluttering up the forum, and unnecessary, since your subject is a small matter and not worth a thread.
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RedAlertUK said:
Its because they are cheap and don't understand or care that it takes a lot of time and money to develop apps.
In many cases of free apps I wish there was a way to donate to the developer as I hate using something for free that I feel I should pay for.
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Back when I was in school I used to get the cracked apps. Being cheap? No. No debit card nor would parents allow me to use their cards for purchase.

Vodka69er said:
Back when I was in school I used to get the cracked apps. Being cheap? No. No debit card nor would parents allow me to use their cards for purchase.
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This.
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No, it's not stealing.
Here's a nice link for you: plus.google.com/115208695107342318629/posts/cBxoGSEtbQW
After reading it you should go outside and have a deep thought about it

Don't think this is an issue in the large scale. I don't know anyone who would waste his time searching for a cracked app instead of paying one or two bucks for the few apps you want and need to pay for.
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kwisatz79 said:
Don't think this is an issue in the large scale. I don't know anyone who would waste his time searching for a cracked app instead of paying one or two bucks for the few apps you want and need to pay for.
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To test for a greater time than 15 mins would justify a bit of searching. PowerAMP got it right back in the day. Something like 2 weeks full version trial then you must purchase. Still the best buy I've had on Android.
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Vodka69er said:
Back when I was in school I used to get the cracked apps. Being cheap? No. No debit card nor would parents allow me to use their cards for purchase.
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If you really wanted the app, you would have got the free version. I am sure that you looked for something like " how to get paid apps for free?"

There no access to credit card nor charge cards or whatever cards. So they have to use cracked apps.
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Maybe im wrong but i think that at a large scale it doesn't affect developers so much ..
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For me the situation is quite different.
I have been stealing apps (yea, i don't affraid to admit it, but im not brave of it). Then i decided to start buying them and supporting developers (bought Cerberus and couple other).
It's maybe my problem, but im affraid to provide my credit card numbers to websites such as google wallet to let them pull the money they want. The paypal here was solution, i could charge my paypal account, so they didn't knew anything about my credit card and it was safe. BUT then wild Google Wallet appeared and there's no such option. No money transfer, no transfer from paypal, i have to provide numbers on back of my credit card. If someone in google goes mad, with the provided cc numbers he can pull as much money as he want. I know it sounds riddiculous, but I like safety. I can't relly on their good will, that thay won't abuse it.
So i stopped buying apps, as there is no way to put money on my account.

I use cracked apps just to check if they are worth the money. I treat them as demo. If I like it I buy it.Cheers
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I have no problem purchasing apps, but I do know that aside from the credit card issue, many games and apps just aren't available on playstore in many countries, these are great apps and games and I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be available everywhere, maybe we should look to the causes of many people's pirated apps.
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jugg1es said:
I have no problem purchasing apps, but I do know that aside from the credit card issue, many games and apps just aren't available on playstore in many countries, these are great apps and games and I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be available everywhere, maybe we should look to the causes of many people's pirated apps.
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+1
I have to use Market ebabler, and droidVPN so I could view all of the apps on play store.
This is insane!
I've spand 100-200$ for android apps.
I'm with android since 1.5 back in 2009.
Some apps are simply overpriced and I have to find a solution does the app deserve the money, and for that reason I google it to find it for free, just for testing.

chekuhakim said:
There no access to credit card nor charge cards or whatever cards. So they have to use cracked apps.
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There are such things as prepaid credit cards. Just a hint. As an alternative some markets (not Google Play) accept also paypal etc.

Google Play with paypal, at least 20% of us will start buying apps.
I dont use many apps on my android, so buying few apps is not a problem for me. bank in in about RM10 ( 3USD+- ) on my account, and bought apps. Im a student thou. Other than that, I often buy iPad apps, even thou I jailbreak it. Jailbreak for me is only for tweaking. I even bought paid cydia apps. Same goes to my android, root/unknown source/s-off or what so ever, I dont support piracy.
Have the kaching to bought devices/gadgets but dont have the kaching to buy apps? what say you.

remusator said:
For me the situation is quite different.
I have been stealing apps (yea, i don't affraid to admit it, but im not brave of it). Then i decided to start buying them and supporting developers (bought Cerberus and couple other).
It's maybe my problem, but im affraid to provide my credit card numbers to websites such as google wallet to let them pull the money they want. The paypal here was solution, i could charge my paypal account, so they didn't knew anything about my credit card and it was safe. BUT then wild Google Wallet appeared and there's no such option. No money transfer, no transfer from paypal, i have to provide numbers on back of my credit card. If someone in google goes mad, with the provided cc numbers he can pull as much money as he want. I know it sounds riddiculous, but I like safety. I can't relly on their good will, that thay won't abuse it.
So i stopped buying apps, as there is no way to put money on my account.
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this is riddiculous! you don't feel safe to trust google wallett, but you'd trust paypal!!! there's no differencies between those two. they are both corporate giants, if you're paranoid trust neither. or better, don't be paranoid.

Does owner of Titanium Backup drive a Lamborghini?

Hey guys I was looking in the play store and I saw that titanium backup pro key has 500,000+ downloads while its charged at $6.58. So the founder of it must be pretty rich and probably drives a Lamborghini or Ferrari, right?
500,000 x 6.58 = $3,290,000

triplexkush said:
Hey guys I was looking in the play store and I saw that titanium backup pro key has 500,000+ downloads while its charged at $6.58. So the founder of it must be pretty rich and probably drives a Lamborghini or Ferrari, right?
500,000 x 6.58 = $3,290,000
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On behalf of crazyxd
Brain damage...
Take this talk to the off topic forum.
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MrGriffdude said:
On behalf of crazyxd
Brain damage...
Take this talk to the off topic forum.
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Or someone could start a "Stupid Question" thread. It keeps getting mentioned but I haven't seen one here yet. They do exist in other sub-forums. This one actually got stickied:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494423

hechoen said:
Or someone could start a "Stupid Question" thread. It keeps getting mentioned but I haven't seen one here yet. They do exist in other sub-forums. This one actually got stickied:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494423
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This should be the stupid question thread lol
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triplexkush said:
Hey guys I was looking in the play store and I saw that titanium backup pro key has 500,000+ downloads while its charged at $6.58. So the founder of it must be pretty rich and probably drives a Lamborghini or Ferrari, right?
500,000 x 6.58 = $3,290,000
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I'll take a stab at this ... lets assume that he gets 100% of the proceeds from sales (based on your maths above).
Now, lets take taxes into consideration. But, before we do that we have to know over what time frame these sales occurred. Tax brackets are based on your annual income, so this is important. The best I can determine is that the first release was sometime in 2010. So lets assume it's three years old.
Lets also assume they consistently sell the same amount of licenses per year at the same price for simplicity's sake.
3,290,000 / 3 = $1,096,666 per year.
That puts them smack into the highest tax bracket of 39.6% per year. So ...
$1,096,666 * .396 = $434,248 paid in taxes. Also, assuming they keep good books and aren't too clever with their taxes, investments, write off's ect. Too many variables to consider here.
So, that means, that before paying staff, paying overhead (again which deals with complexity of write-offs, deductions, etc so we'll skip that) they pulled in:
$1,096,666 - $434,248 = $663,386
Now you have to factor in misc living expenses such as mortgage, utilities, beer, etc ...
IIMHO ..... No, they do not drive exotic sports cars. But they could very well be living comfortably when you consider the median US household income is only $50,233.00.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States
http://www.forbes.com/sites/moneybu...deral-income-tax-brackets-and-marginal-rates/

car vs driver said:
I'll take a stab at this ... lets assume that he gets 100% of the proceeds from sales (based on your maths above).
Now, lets take taxes into consideration. But, before we do that we have to know over what time frame these sales occurred. Tax brackets are based on your annual income, so this is important. The best I can determine is that the first release was sometime in 2010. So lets assume it's three years old.
Lets also assume they consistently sell the same amount of licenses per year at the same price for simplicity's sake.
3,290,000 / 3 = $1,096,666 per year.
That puts them smack into the highest tax bracket of 39.6% per year. So ...
$1,096,666 * .396 = $434,248 paid in taxes. Also, assuming they keep good books and aren't too clever with their taxes, investments, write off's ect. Too many variables to consider here.
So, that means, that before paying staff, paying overhead (again which deals with complexity of write-offs, deductions, etc so we'll skip that) they pulled in:
$1,096,666 - $434,248 = $663,386
Now you have to factor in misc living expenses such as mortgage, utilities, beer, etc ...
IIMHO ..... No, they do not drive exotic sports cars. But they could very well be living comfortably when you consider the median US household income is only $50,233.00.
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States
http://www.forbes.com/sites/moneybu...deral-income-tax-brackets-and-marginal-rates/
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That's dedication right there.
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And shows the power of searching!
Edit: and having too much free time
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jd1639 said:
And shows the power of searching!
Edit: and having too much free time
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LOL!
In my defense, I was "multi-tasking" while on a conference call.

car vs driver said:
LOL!
In my defense, I was "multi-tasking" while on a conference call.
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I think we call that 'not paying attention to the call'
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whosgotlag said:
I think we call that 'not paying attention to the call'
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Some can focus on more than a singular task. I know that sounds tricky to you but for others its necessary to make things happen.
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mtdew said:
Some can focus on more than a singular task. I know that sounds tricky to you but for others its necessary to make things happen.
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I think I read once that although people think they can multitask, the human brain isn't capable if doing it. And one or both tasks will suffer as a result. Just my 2 pennies.

Computers also can't do it, and the tasks suffer. It's called "context switch overhead". However, if the processors are fast enough - you can lose the overhead and still be capable of doing whatever phones are doing these days.

Doesn't matter, question answered.
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car vs driver said:
Doesn't matter, question answered.
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Yes sir didn't mean to bother you sir. Sir yes sir, sir.... His name was Robert Paulson.

rbk7 said:
Yes sir didn't mean to bother you sir. Sir yes sir, sir.... His name was Robert Paulson.
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This. It made me laugh.
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car vs driver said:
Tax brackets are based on your annual income, so this is important. The best I can determine is that the first release was sometime in 2010. So lets assume it's three years old.
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Well... if it matters, in September of 2010, he was still selling licenses outside of the Play store (you had to pay via his site and wait on an registration file)...

Doesn't the math depend on what play considers a download? Are multiple downloads by the same account treated as one?

smock9 said:
Doesn't the math depend on what play considers a download? Are multiple downloads by the same account treated as one?
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I had this exact thought. A lot of people download TB whenever they clean flash a new Rom. If each of these counts toward a unique download, I've contributed at least 30 to that count.
And what about updates? Do those count individually too?
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Is WhatsApp Free?

the WhatsApp app keeps bugging me with popups abt asking me to pay a dollar. i thought it was a free service. is it free or do u have to pay?

ortind200 said:
the WhatsApp app keeps bugging me with popups abt asking me to pay a dollar. i thought it was a free service. is it free or do u have to pay?
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it is free for one year but after day you have to pay
it is nominal charge i think
go on pay for that if you are using it for more then one year
they deserve that one dollar for creating such massive app

I agree!
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The app itself is free, but you have to pay for the service every year.

no absolutely its not a free service!! why they work hard and bay for there servers then ?!?! :cyclops:

It's free for one year. After that you charge a minimum annual fee.

And the most used app is demanding you to pay annual fee what will you do? I am just waiting to end the free period of it... So that i can buy it... Its most sophisticated and useful app...I even dont mind if they ask me monthly fee... But they are really generous...

I got 2 years free... I guess I will have to pay after that...
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patri3x said:
Its most sophisticated and useful app
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how is it the most sophisticated and useful app? i dont see anything sophisticated abt it. if u want to talk abt sophistication then kakao the most sophisticated. its got more a ton more features and offers much more.

Left whatsapp for Wechat. Much more features. Voice chat for free
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Its free For the 1st year.
After that its costing 1$.
But still Its worth of it.
Fast Stable and Support on all OS.
Less data Usage.
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Oh please guys 1 year awesome service(AdFree) for just $1( in india 55rupees) is not a big deal...
Whatsapp inc worth it for their best service.

I got it free on the iPhone sale, its worths de $1.

There are many other cross platform messengers you can switch to,but certainly whatsapp is the best
In my dream, I was king,,woke up, still king!!
em <3

It becomes a paid app after a year...though so far i hv been automatically renewed for another few months.

well, my whole family uses whatsapp, i guess many got to pay the service since past 50 years old are hard to retrain to new messengers or even phones

Smartwatch Suggestion

Looking for a suggestion on a smartwatch. I'll be pairing it with an android phone(s9+ or maybe a71 in the near future) and would like to have heart rate monitor and support to recieve all my notifications would be nice. In particular I need notifications for workplace messenger by Facebook primarily. Being able to respond to notifications would be nice but not totally required. I'd like other heart monitoring functions if possible but realize I can only expect so much from a $50 smartwatch!
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Engendro said:
Perfecto
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I'm legit curious.. Am I asking to much for $50.. I mean I can hop on Amazon and see several options that seems to fit the bill but given the nature of xda I figured I'd reach out here to see if and of the watches I had looked at might pop up in conversation. I feel like I'm asking for a reasonable trade off here in what I can or can't sacrifice, but if not, enlighten me what's reasonable to expect from a $50 smartwatch?
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Maybe it would help if you gave the name and brand of the watches you are wondering about.
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Well here's one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086L6DCQ7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_g9naFbC1HRKYM
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elexa1 said:
Suggestion for smartwatch is also depend on user. Because I need to know about user usage and the platform he used mean IOS or Android.
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You do realize this thread is almost a year old?

Just saw a review of the OnePlus Smartwatch. Looks pretty solid for not much money!

Threads dead. Let's move on?

Hi, maybe some ideas, information, etc. here:
Other SmartWatches
Discussion for all other smartwatch devices
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