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Threaded Group SMS!?

Can someone with the One X comment on whether or not the device supports threaded group SMS w/ iPhone and Blackberry users? My biggest gripe with the Galaxy Nexus was that when I received group SMS messages, it wouldn't show the group and threaded responses. Instead, it showed separate messages for each response from each user. Coming from an iPhone, this is a must have feature for me and I wanted to know if the One X supported it. Thanks.

If it doesn't there is an SMS app you can get that supports threaded group chat. Not sure of the name, but it's out there.

b5t28 said:
If it doesn't there is an SMS app you can get that supports threaded group chat. Not sure of the name, but it's out there.
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None of them work well...I've tried them all with the Galaxy Nexus and that's why I got rid of it.

I'm surprised there aren't more people who are concerned about having this feature.

NextNexus said:
I'm surprised there aren't more people who are concerned about having this feature.
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I'm concerned, I'm coming from a blackberry and I use that function all the time. My One X is on order so if it doesn't, I'm SOL already haha

I sent out a massive group text when I got my phone to inform everyone of my new number, but the responses came back in their own threads.
It's not something I would utilize very often, so I'm not too concerned about finding an app to do it. I'm pretty happy with the stock Messaging app aside from this.

craig0r said:
I sent out a massive group text when I got my phone to inform everyone of my new number, but the responses came back in their own threads.
It's not something I would utilize very often, so I'm not too concerned about finding an app to do it. I'm pretty happy with the stock Messaging app aside from this.
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Thanks for letting me know about this. Just to confirm, there are no options to turn Group SMS (or MMS) on in the settings of the messaging app? I currently have many group chats with work colleagues as well as personal friends and this might be a deal killer for me (unfortunately).

Received messages go in their own threads, I've been looking in the settings and don't see a way to change that so far.
If your group consists solely of smartphone users, why not use whatsapp?

redwreck said:
Received messages go in their own threads, I've been looking in the settings and don't see a way to change that so far.
If your group consists solely of smartphone users, why not use whatsapp?
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We used to but since everyone switch to the iPhone and Blackberry there has been no reason to. I'll be the first one in the "groups" to switch to Android and not having this basic functionality sucks. Even dumb phones are able to do this nowadays so I'm pretty disappointed.

NextNexus said:
We used to but since everyone switch to the iPhone and Blackberry there has been no reason to. I'll be the first one in the "groups" to switch to Android and not having this basic functionality sucks. Even dumb phones are able to do this nowadays so I'm pretty disappointed.
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Well, at least BBM is coming to iOS and Android eventually. It's not much of a consolation, I'm sure, but at least it's something. (rumour alert! don't crucify me if it never happens! )

I found this on the issues list. I don't know if the more stars = faster response, but it's worth a shot.
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...rs&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars

b5t28 said:
I found this on the issues list. I don't know if the more stars = faster response, but it's worth a shot.
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...rs&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
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Yup that's the exact issue I'm describing! Looks like I'm not the only one!

GroupMe works wonders. Thru SMS and the app
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bigballa said:
GroupMe works wonders. Thru SMS and the app
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Problem with GroupMe is that if someone had once installed the app and then subsequently deleted it, the app doesn't recognize that and fails to send them the message. Unfortunately, most people I know have at some time or another, used GroupMe and then gotten rid of it.

Handcent doesn't work? I've got a few friends with iPhones that want me to join their group chat, so I installed the add on to Handcent.. haven't tried it yet though.

It's not an issue if that's how the app is designed..
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BoostedSR20 said:
Handcent doesn't work? I've got a few friends with iPhones that want me to join their group chat, so I installed the add on to Handcent.. haven't tried it yet though.
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Nope didn't work for me (and the app sucked)

This is by far the most infuriating part of this phone.. My three year old BlackBerry supported group chat, but my top of the line android phone has to use a third party app that stumbles, doesn't send, triple sends, and is so freaking ugly. How hard can it be for someone to fix it so I don't have to have an app and can use the stock messaging program to talk with my friends.

b5t28 said:
This is by far the most infuriating part of this phone.. My three year old BlackBerry supported group chat, but my top of the line android phone has to use a third party app that stumbles, doesn't send, triple sends, and is so freaking ugly. How hard can it be for someone to fix it so I don't have to have an app and can use the stock messaging program to talk with my friends.
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OH Jeeeeez. I finally switched over from my iPhone 4S... because ICS and the One XL seemed to finally have come up to par with Apple's platform. Love the lightning fast LTE, the camera is only marginally worse than the 4S (close though)... and the screen is gorgeous on the XL! HOWEVER... I get a lot of group texts from my foodie friends with pics of food, or whatever... and actually... this situation with the inability to deal with those texts is almost a deal breaker for me! I had no idea ICS hadn't dealt with that yet... and worse... even HTC hasn't been able to recognize and address that shortcoming with all their coding expertise either? Yikes... I'm either going to have to go back to the 4S, or deal with a flagship phone that fails on a very basic requirement in 2012...
What a buzzkill...

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OH Jeeeeez. I finally switched over from my iPhone 4S... because ICS and the One XL seemed to finally have come up to par with Apple's platform. Love the lightning fast LTE, the camera is only marginally worse than the 4S (close though)... and the screen is gorgeous on the XL! HOWEVER... I get a lot of group texts from my foodie friends with pics of food, or whatever... and actually... this situation with the inability to deal with those texts is almost a deal breaker for me! I had no idea ICS hadn't dealt with that yet... and worse... even HTC hasn't been able to recognize and address that shortcoming with all their coding expertise either? Yikes... I'm either going to have to go back to the 4S, or deal with a flagship phone that fails on a very basic requirement in 2012...
What a buzzkill...
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Okay everybody... check this out. I was looking for a way to get Visual Voicemail working on my One XL... and ran into a dead end. Finally got in touch with a helpful ATT "Advanced Tech Support" guy (after being forwarded from standard tech support)... and he directed me not to the AT&T Visual Voicemail app that is not compatible with the One X... but he says the AT&T Messages app is the one I need. So I installed it... and not only does it work very well for visual voicemail on the One X... the SMS/MMS feature of the app ACTUALLY THREADS GROUP SMS/MMS !!!! And pretty well too.
I've only had it installed about a half hour... but if it's not too buggy... I think this App not only solves the Visual Voicemail issue... but also potentially the SMS/MMS group threading problem. It won't have tons of features for power users (not very customizable... unfortunately)... but for those of us who NEEDED threaded group texts... we may be all set.
Linky below...
(Update: I was not able to post the link because I'm new to the forum... just search for "AT&T Messages" in the Android store.)

Mms issues

iAny one else having mms issues on their att One X. Mine are hit and miss. Can send consistently but some won't download or take forever. I have had mms issues with other Htc devices but when on WiFi.
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Guess i am the only one lol. Thats good to know its a single issue

Mine too. I thought it might have something to do with the att messages app I had installed to handle visual voicemail.
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belyle said:
Mine too. I thought it might have something to do with the att messages app I had installed to handle visual voicemail.
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Oh okay. I don't have that installed I don't think. Actually on line with tech support right now

Anyone figure this out?
I just tried to send myself an MMS and it failed outbound.

I called and he supposedly didn't see any issues. Reset some things on their end. Had me turn the phone off. Seems to be working right at the moment. Suppose to give me a follow up call Wednesday
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I had the same problem.. but i fixed my issue (for now it looks like). I'll help you guys out and make a step by step process..
Step 1) Turn on screen
Step 2) slide ring down
Step 3) Press and hold power button
Step 4) press restart
Presto! its fixed!
But seriously, I couldn't send any MMS, just restarted and now it works again.

bothfly said:
Anyone figure this out?
I just tried to send myself an MMS and it failed outbound.
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Do you have WiFi on ? Personally I think the WiFi data transfer is contributing but can't back it up
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Noticed this morning. Left the house and was 15 miles away yet it still said connected to my home WiFi. I really think it has something to do with trying to send via data while WiFi is on. I don't think its switching over properly
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the only issue i have with the messaging app is how it sometimes resets the text size. very strange.

Yea I tried sending two mms the other day while on WiFi at my house. Both failed. I was eventually able to send them but I think it has something to do with the WiFi.
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I can Receive MMS but I can;t send them

x2beach said:
I can Receive MMS but I can;t send them
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are you in the app that came with the phone? i'm trying to figure out if it's a function of the size limitation. looks like it's at 300k max for mms in the basic app. handcent's ceiling for an outgoing mms is over 3x higher.

The problem that I having is receiving MMS from iPhone users. I wonder if it has something to do with the 600k size limit within the settings menu? I have had to resort to asking people to e-mail them to me.

wbell1987 said:
The problem that I having is receiving MMS from iPhone users. I wonder if it has something to do with the 600k size limit within the settings menu? I have had to resort to asking people to e-mail them to me.
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the only time i've heard of iphone to one x problems had to do with people taking their micro-sims from their iphones and moving them to the one x. the iphone has to be wiped first to clear the relevant sim card settings or else messages from other iphone users never showed up.

I sent an MMS Monday night and while my phone said it went through, the recipient never received it. Then on Tuesday morning my sms stopped going out and I couldn't make an out bound call connect so I restarted my phone. That fixed the sms and calling issue, and five minutes later I got a text from my friend telling me my Monday night MMS finally went through. I don't think I ever turned WiFi on during all of this but can't remember for sure.
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I'm having issues sending a MMS from the Gallery. When I send a pic from the Gallery and share through MMS it doesn't send it. It still shows in the waiting queue. When I select "retry sending" and sends it immediately.

wbell1987 said:
The problem that I having is receiving MMS from iPhone users. I wonder if it has something to do with the 600k size limit within the settings menu? I have had to resort to asking people to e-mail them to me.
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I'm having this problem. My gf is trying to send me an 800 KB file thru MMS and its simply not going thru. It's telling me:
One or more of the message components have been deleted by MMS Adaptation. Either the message was too large or the components were unsuitable for your terminal.
I look in the MMS settings for the phone, and the limit is 600 KB! What is this bull****?! How can iPhones have unlimited MMS size? Is this a carrier restriction?

I am having the same issue with MMS. When I try to send an MMS its really a crap shoot as sometimes it goes through and sometimes it does now. When I select to retry it works.

dimgl said:
I'm having this problem. My gf is trying to send me an 800 KB file thru MMS and its simply not going thru. It's telling me:
One or more of the message components have been deleted by MMS Adaptation. Either the message was too large or the components were unsuitable for your terminal.
I look in the MMS settings for the phone, and the limit is 600 KB! What is this bull****?! How can iPhones have unlimited MMS size? Is this a carrier restriction?
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don't know the answer, but just for comparison, as someone on at&t prepaid on a stock int'l one x, in the native messages app the max size is 300kb! however, if you choose handcent, you can set it much higher - with a warning that it could affect costs for those with light data usage plans.

Why on Earth do people use MMS? Am I missing something here?

Every time a device gets AOSP (for the first time) I see a flood of posts whining about MMS being broken. (I've had an Evo 4G and an Evo 3D and saw this on both when they first got AOSP, now I see it in the unofficial CM9 thread here.)
Why MMS? What's good about MMS that you can't get with any other app or service?
Did I miss the train?

Do you know what mms is? From your post it doesn't sound like it.
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bloodrain954 said:
Do you know what mms is? From your post it doesn't sound like it.
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Yea.. I gather that as well.

How else would one sext and send nudes?

1) It's universal.
No matter what phone the other person is using, chances are it supports MMS.
2) It's in-line.
Unlike email, you can just go "Here's a picture" instead of "I just sent you an email, you should go check it out"

xeper said:
Every time a device gets AOSP (for the first time) I see a flood of posts whining about MMS being broken. (I've had an Evo 4G and an Evo 3D and saw this on both when they first got AOSP, now I see it in the unofficial CM9 thread here.)
Why MMS? What's good about MMS that you can't get with any other app or service?
Did I miss the train?
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I know its a serious question but made me laugh a bit. "Why God why!!" Lol

My girlfriend and I send MMS's (plural?lol) all the time. Sometimes she wants to send me something she saw or maybe a new outfit she bought With email I don't always have autosync on for battery life and its just that extra hassle. If I'm trying to send something pretty high resolution I will use email though since it doesn't compress it.

its the easiest and fastest way to send a pic to a person on another mobile phone, any other mobile phone, any OS, any platform, any carrier.
was this a joke?

mbh87 said:
How else would one sext and send recieve nudes?
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FTFY

I guess I just don't get why you couldn't just email pictures or videos. All you have to do is tap after you've taken your picture and the UI asks how you want to share it. I don't know a single human being who still uses MMS outside of these forums and maybe my mother, who keeps buying feature-phones. :^\

It's easier to send a quick picture to a phone than through email. I don't know much of my friend's email addresses off the top of my head

xeper said:
I guess I just don't get why you couldn't just email pictures or videos. All you have to do is tap after you've taken your picture and the UI asks how you want to share it.
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Which is also one way send an MMS.
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Who wants to tell every single person to email them pics instead of texting them. Reminds me of the first few years of the iPhone.

xeper said:
Why MMS? What's good about MMS that you can't get with any other app or service?
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I guess the bigger question is why not?

Almost not wanting to dignify the question... But....
Mms is also used as a group chat in messaging apps like gosms. Allows you to text multiple people at once and everyone in the chat can see everyone elses response. Just fyi
My pants are vibrating

xeper said:
I guess I just don't get why you couldn't just email pictures or videos. All you have to do is tap after you've taken your picture and the UI asks how you want to share it. I don't know a single human being who still uses MMS outside of these forums and maybe my mother, who keeps buying feature-phones. :^\
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I have a lot of friends who use mms that aren't a part of the forums. As a matter of fact, I'm positive none of my friends are on the forums.
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Here is a better question: Why do people still use CDMA carriers such as verizon and sprint? SIM lacking carriers are almost non-existant outside the USA.

Why MMS??? Then why sms ?? Yeah you could SMS but then if u wanted to send a pic or video then you would have to open a separete app which takes more time mms is simply faster
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Why ? Because they want to.
THREAD CLOSED.
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xeper said:
I don't know a single human being who still uses MMS outside of these forums and maybe my mother, who keeps buying feature-phones. :^\
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I'm pretty sure almost everyone that I know sends pics through MMS...

Please explain to me...

Hey guys,
Could someone please explain to me why the HOX is so inferior to the iPhone 4S as far as sending and recieving pictures via mms and email. I very rarely am able to actually recieve pics sent by text, and I have to send pictures individually over email versus 2,3 or even 4 pics per email on the iPhone. Video's are totally out of the question on the HOX. This is really the only complaint I have with the HTC. Is thee anything i can do, or are we just screwed?

I send and receive images all the time with no issues. Perhaps you're misplacing blame?
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It's not that hard to add another contact in the "To" line in the Gmail app.
And are you using a different SMS app? Maybe it's AT&T, I only get EDGE on my HOX cause I'm on T-mobile.
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Yeah I've never had a problem with mms messages either, and I can also attach as many pictures to an email as I want. I think you've got something else going on because these definitely aren't HOX related issues.

He probably doesn't know how to use anything besides an iPhone, I just sent an email to 3 people without having to remake the same email.
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I don't use the stock mail app, but gmail allows me to attach plenty of pics. My brother has a 4s, even he can't send large vids via email, we use YouTube for that.
Are you stock or rooted or ....can you be more specific?

No problems here bro. Stock messaging app and gmail work fine too... So does k-9 mail..
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Not receiving sms/mms probably has to do with the carrier and not the phone. I've never had any issues sending or receiving picture messages.
As far as sending multiple pictures per email, this isn't that hard either. Open gallery, press the share button and chose your method (example Gmail), then select the pictures you want to attach and hit next. Gmail will open with all the pictures attached and all you gotta do is enter email address (one or multiple).

theking_13 said:
He probably doesn't know how to use anything besides an iPhone, I just sent an email to 3 people without having to remake the same email.
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Pretty easy to see how you got to 2,000+ posts. Do you ever add anything constructive?
Misplacing blame? What a bunch of over sensitive girls. I asked some simple questions and asked for advice. I have never been able to get a video to play from gmail on this phone. I am constantly having people ask me if I got the pictures they texted me. Several times today I tried to email 4 pictures at once. Every time it failed. Finally had to end them individually and they all went through. I'm on AT&T. Handcent SMS and the stock ICS email app.
Metalhead, you seem to be the only one mature enough to give a straight answer. What do you suggest I look at to fix these problems?

I have had the same problem with the mail app connected to exchange on wifi, it wouldn't let me send an email with pics. It might just be the stock rom causing issues.
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gpo1956 said:
Pretty easy to see how you got to 2,000+ posts. Do you ever add anything constructive?
Misplacing blame? What a bunch of over sensitive girls. I asked some simple questions and asked for advice. I have never been able to get a video to play from gmail on this phone. I am constantly having people ask me if I got the pictures they texted me. Several times today I tried to email 4 pictures at once. Every time it failed. Finally had to end them individually and they all went through. I'm on AT&T. Handcent SMS and the stock ICS email app.
Metalhead, you seem to be the only one mature enough to give a straight answer. What do you suggest I look at to fix these problems?
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Need some more information. Rooted? stock? rom? Handcent works fine for me, i'm rooted, can add multiple pics, it does resize them cos its an 8mp camera, i use the gmail mail app and can easily send to multiple recipients with multiple attachments. Dont use the ICS mail app, like gmail one better.

"Misplacing blame" was a fancy way of calling you an idiot. You didnt ask specific questions as much as you did complain and compare the one x to the iPhone.
Maybe if you weren't a retard, you'd be able to figure out how to use your device. Good luck, chief.
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Oooook guys. Chill out .
OP, try a third party SMS/MMS application. Also, feel free to add more data as it may help everyone better understand your plight.
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Coming from an iPhone, I definitely recommend the JB Messaging (formerly ICS Messaging) from the Google Play Store.
Pair this with SMS Popup and it is really great, especially compared to BiteSMS.

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"Misplacing blame" was a fancy way of calling you an idiot. You didnt ask specific questions as much as you did complain and compare the one x to the iPhone.
Maybe if you weren't a retard, you'd be able to figure out how to use your device. Good luck, chief.
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Ha don't confuse him with your fancy way of insulting him. :good:

OP, your scenario is strange. I haven't had either of the issues that you are experiencing since I've had my HOX. MMS messages send and receive just fine for me and I have no problem sending multiple pictures via the Gmail app.
In the past I have had these issues on other phones, but it was usually due to AT&T network issues. Have you tried holding the power button down for ten seconds? This is supposed to simulate a battery pull. Beyond that, maybe a master reset?

KitF said:
Coming from an iPhone, I definitely recommend the JB Messaging (formerly ICS Messaging) from the Google Play Store.
Pair this with SMS Popup and it is really great, especially compared to BiteSMS.
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Thanks for the heads up! JB Messaging is awesome.
Beamed from my KingCobra1X powered HOXL on Rogers.

As far as the email issue, some more info would help. Is it gmail, exchange, hotmail, or what?
You have to remember that you're sending what can be large files, and you can end up with a size limitation there, which largely depends on your email provider and what they allow/tolerate.
As to the MMS issues, do try stock. 3rd party apps have been known to not always play nice on various devices, particularly brand new ones, and especially brand new ones running custom ROMs. So it could be that, or carrier issues, or the other party's carrier, etc.
Finally, before completely knocking the phone and pissing off people who a) like said phone and b) actually know a few things that can help, check the attitude and tone it down. Don't get pissed at the responses you get when you march in the door and, quite loudly, let your ignorance show.
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SoberGuy has sober wisdom.
Actually.... Some of the most insightful things I've heard have been from drunk people.
I haven't had the photo problem, the video issue was just that my files were too large, I toned down the quality and was fine.

SoberGuy said:
Finally, before completely knocking the phone and pissing off people who a) like said phone and b) actually know a few things that can help, check the attitude and tone it down. Don't get pissed at the responses you get when you march in the door and, quite loudly, let your ignorance show.
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What the heck?
He said this was his ONLY complaint.
Don't jump down his throat because he doesn't think it's perfect.

[Q] how to increase mms sent size?

My friend was playing a minute long video he received via text on his iPhone. It made me sick when all day prior I was talking up the sg3 and he seemed to agree with me until the mms comparisons. All of my last phones...thunderbolt...incredible were able when rooted to change the Max Mms size. My question is....how can this be done. Its killing me I can't text 10 second never mind a 1 minute long video of my baby to family and friends. Please help.

anyone?
killian1212 said:
My friend was playing a minute long video he received via text on his iPhone. It made me sick when all day prior I was talking up the sg3 and he seemed to agree with me until the mms comparisons. All of my last phones...thunderbolt...incredible were able when rooted to change the Max Mms size. My question is....how can this be done. Its killing me I can't text 10 second never mind a 1 minute long video of my baby to family and friends. Please help.
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Anyone?

I wanna say you cant with cdma. In the camera settings there is something to set the camera length for mms sending iirc
It also depends on quality and resolution of the video. Dont expect to send 5 mins of 1080p vid via mms.
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Its based on Verizons Network also right? In GOsms the max is like 2 or 3 MBs. Was his video HD and not compressed to be sent? If so, expect the video to look like crap just like any android phone sending through MMS.

killian1212 said:
My friend was playing a minute long video he received via text on his iPhone. It made me sick when all day prior I was talking up the sg3 and he seemed to agree with me until the mms comparisons. All of my last phones...thunderbolt...incredible were able when rooted to change the Max Mms size. My question is....how can this be done. Its killing me I can't text 10 second never mind a 1 minute long video of my baby to family and friends. Please help.
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Yes its actually a way but very complicated. If your search decompile mms apk it may lead you to what you want....in the end i think it involves altering your xml config file( i think)