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Are all the batteries from the galaxy series the same?
Has any one tried it?
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http://www.cellularaccessory.com/eb145152yzbstd.html
Are all the batteries from the galaxy series the same?
Has any one tried it?
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It will probably fit, I don't doubt it but there seem to be a battery door as well and by the looks of it. Although it seems its for the fasinate only.
the fascinates battery fits but when ever I charge the phone, it says battery not detected, and the phone does not charge. more than likely you'd get the same error with the extended one.
all the galaxy s phones use the same 1500 mh battery i have the epic but i bought the battery sold for the vibrant and the have the same exact serial numbers on them.
says it needs a xl door
http://cgi.ebay.com/SAMSUNG-EXTENDE...200369?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item255d7c0b31
http://cgi.ebay.com/2200mAh-Extende...226762?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1c1473f04a
I just did a search for Samsung 2200mah and came up with a 3 page list of batteries and phones. I'd be completely fine with a thicker phone to get longer battery lfe.
I just did a search for Samsung 2200mah and came up with a 3 page list of batteries and phones. I'd be completely fine with a thicker phone to get longer battery lfe.
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has any1 tried these batteries?
I bet the batteries are fine, it's getting the door to fit back on being the next issue.
i ordered me one
now waiting for epic battery cover
Since the battery is thicker, you could halfass the cover by simply cutting an opening in it just enough that the battery could protrude from it and still allow the stock cover to snap on. Other than it being pretty, the battery hump would stick out less than the cover that is included on that eBay Fascinate link. Or maybe you could get really fancy by cutting off the bump from the Fascinate cover and epoxy it or something to your existing Epic cover.
As I'm sitting here writing this, I'm thinking about just doing it myself...dremel out the hump and epoxy it to the Epic cover, using enough epoxy to create a smooth transition lip instead of an actual bump, light sanding to clean up the epoxy work and then wrap it in some 3M Di-NOC carbon fiber graphics while I'm at it.
The ONLY problems I've ever heard with some of the aftermarket batteries (while I was on the Samsung Moment forums) was that occasionally people would get an incompatible battery warning on their phone, but could easily be resolved with a reset. Once you get yours, keep us posted how it works out. When I first got my phone, the battery was completely dead, but I was thankful. I read random stories (which are debatable) as to if battery conditioning is even necessary or if it even matters. Either way, I put my phone on the wall charger (faster than USB via a computer) and let it charge completely. I then ran about 4 streaming music apps at once to completely kill the battery, then did a nice slow charge on the PC. While I can't say if my battery life is good or bad compared to anyone else since everyones usage is different, at least I can say I tried to condition it. My point is that I've tested the life of batteries this way when swapping between older and newer batteries on my Treo as well. Charge them till their full, run a battery intensive app (streaming for example) and timed how long it took to die. I have Treo batteries that lasted as little as 1.75hrs and as much as 3.5hrs, so naturally I keep the 3.5 in there as much as possible. You could test your current battery vs the extended battery the same way. I chose streaming as my testing of choice since I stream music while working anyways, so it wasn't anything out of the ordinary...I'd just let it go until the music stopped, noted the time and swapped to the next battery. Maybe you could do the same to confirm the difference in life between the 1500 and 2200 battery, otherwise we'll never know.
On a side note, I like this cover http://cgi.ebay.com/3000mAh-Extende...788955?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5adbfc1b1b since it thickens the whole phone vs just adding a hump. That hump would just be constanly snagging the edge of my pocket everytime, hence why I wanted to make it a smooth transitional edge like I mentioned above. Also, this battery is 3000mah, 2x the stock Epic battery. Is the i9000 the same height and width as our batteries? It'd be an even larger hump, but twice the battery...hmmmm.
One thing to keep in mind about battery ratings is that it is dependent on discharge rate. A battery discharged at 1 c will have a different and lower apparent capacity than the same battery discharged at 0.1 c. Thus a larger battery benefits in two ways. Physical size and lowering of the c rate based on the same amp draw. This is where less reputable battery makers cheat. They will put an incredibly small load on a battery to achieve a higher rating.
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So, what's your point? How does one distinguish a good battery vs a bad battery then if we're going to try and test these?
I'm waiting for Seidio to release this battery. They have an extended battery for the Evo and it gets good reviews overall, as seen here. Super expensive and makes the phone super bulky though
Why wait for Seidio and their overpriced batteries? People have been buying the extended batteries for the Moment for years via eBay, so why would any of the Galaxy S line batteries be any different for the sub $20 range?
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So, what's your point? How does one distinguish a good battery vs a bad battery then if we're going to try and test these?
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The point is that unless they are giving you a physically larger battery, not to put too much faith in the MaH ratings of batteries. Especially ones out of china with no brand to speak of. The difference between a 1500mah and a 1700mah is likely in how they discharged to to rate it.
If you can find it, the C rate on discharge is a good indicator of quality in lithium batteries. Higher C rate discharge have lower internal resistance and are made with better materials. I'm not sure how likely you are to find the full specs on a phone battery.
In a test environment its not too difficult to figure out which is which. Put a temperature probe on it, and then put a high load on it. The one with the lowest temp is probably your best battery. (same size anyways)
Assuming the 2200mAH batteries are genuine Samsung OEM, I'd love to see one get tested by the guy at batteryboss.org to see how they rate under the same test conditions as the other batteries he's tested. If they end up being real, honest-to-god 2200mAH @ 250mA discharge, that would put them right on par capacity-wise with the average, much thicker no-name nominally-3500mAH Evo/Desire/Hero batteries from eBay. 1500 definitely isn't big enough, but a real 2200mAH battery with back that's large enough to accommodate it (preferably with a sculpted, rounded profile instead of a boxy pregnant lump) might be a nice alternative to a full-blown ~2800mAH-nominally-3200/3500mAH extended battery from Seidio.
In any case, I think it's been well established by now that the "extended" batteries that are the same size, but ~100mAH larger than stock, are almost a complete waste of money. Even when they DO last 30-60 minutes longer, you seriously have to question the sanity of spending so much for so little.
That said, I suspect that most of the cheap 2200mAH batteries that will eventually end up on eBay will end up testing out at around 1500mAH.
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The point is that unless they are giving you a physically larger battery, not to put too much faith in the MaH ratings of batteries. Especially ones out of china with no brand to speak of. The difference between a 1500mah and a 1700mah is likely in how they discharged to to rate it.
If you can find it, the C rate on discharge is a good indicator of quality in lithium batteries. Higher C rate discharge have lower internal resistance and are made with better materials. I'm not sure how likely you are to find the full specs on a phone battery.
In a test environment its not too difficult to figure out which is which. Put a temperature probe on it, and then put a high load on it. The one with the lowest temp is probably your best battery. (same size anyways)
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I think I got what you mean. Either way, both the 2200mah and 3000mah battery are incrementally large than the next vs the stock 1500mah battery, so I would assume that each battery will in fact store more of a charge.
has anyone tested whether these batteries work and charge normally? If they do work, you can grab a cheap hard case on ebay for 3 dollars and cut a hole through it for the battery. It will be ugly though, unless you figure out how to make it look nice
Why don't you go on Ebay and buy yourself a good extended battery 2800 mah and use your phone for 2 full days without charging? http://cgi.ebay.com/Sprint-Epic-4G-...450945198?pt=US_Batteries&hash=item1e5f7b74ae USA supplier, great guy and has excellent customer service.
kevinjmoore said:
Why don't you go on Ebay and buy yourself a good extended battery 2800 mah and use your phone for 2 full days without charging? http://cgi.ebay.com/Sprint-Epic-4G-...450945198?pt=US_Batteries&hash=item1e5f7b74ae USA supplier, great guy and has excellent customer service.
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Or save yourself 15 bucks and get this 3500mah battery and get 3 full days without charging.
http://cgi.ebay.com/3500mAh-Extende...Accessories&hash=item3cb2c4bb14#ht_4129wt_916
I am tempted buy an 8x but the battery tests are a bit worrying. Is there any larger batteries and yes I understand this would mean taking the phone apart.
This is extremely unlikely. The device wasn't meant to have a replaceable battery, so even if you could find one that would fit how would you find a back door that did?
some companies make larger battery's but with the same physical size and Im sure the screen on the 8x pulls out like the lumia 800, the battery may even need soldering but even a hour extra usage would be worth it
I am coming from a galaxy s 2 and needed 2 batteries to get through every day.
with 8x so far I have had to be far more considered about ensuring I take every "topup" charge opportunity but so far haven't had a situation where I have had a dead phone.
I have just ordered one of those 5000ma/h power packs that have a USB out for charging devices and will report how that goes as an alternative.
the batteries from,third parties that report higher ma/h really don't offer much gains in my experiences...if you are somewhere with the wireless charging version then that seems like the best solution as you can make the most of every "top up" opportunity
Hi all,
I'm looking into getting an extended battery for my S4 so it actually last a day without needing to charge. All the ones i've have looked at so far make your phone more bulky and need to replace the back doing so.
Is there a battery out there around 3000-4000MAH that doesn't make your phone any bigger?
Thanks in advance.
There's only ZeroLemon 3000mah battery without NFC. Rest is probably fake capacity.
I have HSA 3950mah battery, it last a little longer than my old original battery (and is colder...), but still it's probably around 2600mah.
(original sometimes gets to 40*C, and biggest temperature, which i've seen, of HSA was 34*C)
KuliG said:
There's only ZeroLemon 3000mah battery without NFC. Rest is probably fake capacity.
I have HSA 3950mah battery, it last a little longer than my old original battery (and is colder...), but still it's probably around 2600mah.
(original sometimes gets to 40*C, and biggest temperature, which i've seen, of HSA was 34*C)
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That zero lemon battery is (from my own experience) a piece of crap. It's without a doubt the reason I am now talking to you from a note 4. I was forced to buy due to my s4 being fried by that substandard battery.
I know zero lemon has a good reputation but I can tell you this: that battery was discontinued for a reason. After my meltdown I opened my phone to find the battery puffed up and very warm. I then tried to put the factory battery back in. No dice. My phone would power on, then immediately power off. Not even getting past the bootloader. I could not keep it on to get into download mode or recovery. It was dead Jim
If you do manage to locate the 3000 mah zero lemon battery DO NOT PUT IT IN YOUR PHONE. I went out to zero lemon to complain only to find the battery had been discontinued. I'm betting I wasn't the only one to have this experience.
I'm just trying to save your phone man. Don't do it!! Just say no!! Or
..? I'll see you in the note 4 forums when you have to buy a new phone.
I do not know where from, but I received a 4800mAh battery as a gift a year ago. The battery isn't labeled, it is just blank and gray with hard black plastic on the top and bottom.
jacko_oafc said:
Hi all,
Is there a battery out there around 3000-4000MAH that doesn't make your phone any bigger?
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I say the same as some on before, they're probably fake ones. Currently battery technology cannot go smaller, so if you want more mAh, then physical size grows.
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I do not know where from, but I received a 4800mAh battery as a gift a year ago. The battery isn't labeled, it is just blank and gray with hard black plastic on the top and bottom.
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Nowadays I avoid these no-name batteries. I had one no-name extended battery on my SGS2, which suddenly got heated up and bulged out... luckily it did not explode in my pocket :S Also, when I measured capacity of that battery it labels as 3500 mAh, I measured around 2600 mAh...
My battery life has suddenly got worse. Looking for a solid OEM replacement that will fit under the OEM back cover while providing more MAH would be nice. Any recommendations?
whitedragon551 said:
My battery life has suddenly got worse. Looking for a solid OEM replacement that will fit under the OEM back cover while providing more MAH would be nice. Any recommendations?
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Got my battery from local battery store. (Can't say the name). But OEM equivalent. I would have ordered from online but I couldn't at the moment. (Was planning Amazon)
Didn't care for BIGGER batteries, because I didn't want to add more bulk to the device. Besides proper kernel to recognize and utilise the EXTRA capacity.
So with my "oem equivalent battery", from 6 hours max SOT I've got 10 hours, just like when I first got the device.
Time, use and heat will wear your battery out.
6-10 was during personal specific use.
"Because I could waste battery from 2.5-3.5."
I recommend Amazon/eBay equivalent" Money back guarantee..
Unless you are looking for higher mah.
You can easily get a official OEM battery online, just make sure that you are purchasing it from a reputable online retailer. I'd recommend getting the Note 4 Battery Kit as you will also get a battery charging cradle along with your battery.
mine had the same issue , replaced it with a new original one for around 20$ , now phone is back to normal with around 12~16 hours
whitedragon551 said:
My battery life has suddenly got worse. Looking for a solid OEM replacement that will fit under the OEM back cover while providing more MAH would be nice. Any recommendations?
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I'll recommend getting a new OEM battery or getting Anker (I got multiple Ankers and have excellent results) if you want the same back.
Trust me, new battery (even with same 3220 mAH) will definitely show noticeable difference to your battery life.
For higher capacity, I've heard good things about zerolemon but it uses a different cover.
You will find many batteries in eBay claiming to be of more capacity with the same dimensions (hence fitting the OEM back cover).
Do NOT believe those claims. The battery technology has advanced, but only in terms of cost per Watts. The energy density (Watts per unit volume) is still the same.
You can tweak the circuitry to show more charge than actually there is. It'll result in unreliable numbers (e.g. battery going directly from 20 to 0 etc). And that is what these so-called same volume higher density batteries do.
Stay away from those and get a good one so that you don't regret it later.
I just replaced mine with an Anker brand from Amazon. It has 4 out of 5 stars, and I think most of the bad reviews are cause people have something else wrong with their phones. Overall, the replacement has been very satisfactory, and I think is more reliable than getting "OEM" version off of ebay (which usually is not OEM).
Fair warning though, I do firmly believe that something happened between kit kat and lollipop, which made battery life not as good. I was expecting to go back to battery life from the kit kat day, but alas, did not happen. Back in those days, I could end the day with 80%+ still on my phone, it was amazing. With the anker replacement, I end with about 50%, which is still better than what my original battery was doing (ending at 20%, then quickly jumping from 20% to 1% and shutting off).
rpn377 said:
I just replaced mine with an Anker brand from Amazon. It has 4 out of 5 stars, and I think most of the bad reviews are cause people have something else wrong with their phones. Overall, the replacement has been very satisfactory, and I think is more reliable than getting "OEM" version off of ebay (which usually is not OEM).
Fair warning though, I do firmly believe that something happened between kit kat and lollipop, which made battery life not as good. I was expecting to go back to battery life from the kit kat day, but alas, did not happen. Back in those days, I could end the day with 80%+ still on my phone, it was amazing. With the anker replacement, I end with about 50%, which is still better than what my original battery was doing (ending at 20%, then quickly jumping from 20% to 1% and shutting off).
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Wait for Marshmallow & Doze. You'll see a huge improvement.
I recently changed my battery. ( My original battery broke)
I ordered Anker battery from Amazon and I am really happy. battery life is same as original battery if not better.
I did not ordered an "original" Samsung battery because many of them are fakes.
+1 for Anker, equal original ! It's quite impossible to find a samsung original battery, all are fake or rubberbished ! Samsung only sells, but it is not available anymore...
It is possibile to replacement battery stock.. with Battery of Indian Market (6000mah)?
Thanks
fulminchio said:
It is possibile to replacement battery stock.. with Battery of Indian Market (6000mah)?
Thanks
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If you're referring to putting the Indian 6000mAh battery in the NFC version of the X3, it will not fit.
If you're just looking for a replacement the best place is Poco Authorized Center. The battery is being sold at Rs. 2999/-
thank you.
yess... I was referring to being able to put the 6000mah one.
ok thanks anyway
I'll wait. maybe they will build an 8000mah battery !! who knows ..
With the current battery technology we use, I think the upper limit for a battery in a phone is 7000 mAh. Anything beyond that is either impractical or dangerous or both. The battery still is the largest and most volatile component in any smart phone, to keep increasing its size while still being limited to such a small frame surrounded by heat producing elements like a CPU etc. Is very dangerous.
Alrich said:
With the current battery technology we use, I think the upper limit for a battery in a phone is 7000 mAh. Anything beyond that is either impractical or dangerous or both. The battery still is the largest and most volatile component in any smart phone, to keep increasing its size while still being limited to such a small frame surrounded by heat producing elements like a CPU etc. Is very dangerous.
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Li bag batteries are just plain scary.
Take one apart some time and see for yourself.
Most phones have the maximum sized battery that space and safety permits. Replace with a fresh OEM battery only.
A Li cell event can be quit memorable
Also remember it sits right on top of the display in most phones.
Just battery swelling alone can damage the display.
Recently had one fail like that on my Note 10+, I was fortunate to not damage the display...