Is there any way for me to get Kitkat (4.4) on my stock, unrooted, locked bootloader, verizon galaxy s3? There are a mind-numbingly large number of threads and most of them include some kind of paragraph at the top like; "this article assumes you're unlocked rooted and custom recovery installed." Well I'm not. And when I try to do those things I keep running into other articles telling me all the ways doing that will ruin my phone.
All I want is KitKat without having to wait for BigRed to give it to me. Is that possible? Assume I just bought the phone from Verizon and I'm peeling off the screen protector sticker for the first time.
Stretch31 said:
Is there any way for me to get Kitkat (4.4) on my stock, unrooted, locked bootloader, verizon galaxy s3? There are a mind-numbingly large number of threads and most of them include some kind of paragraph at the top like; "this article assumes you're unlocked rooted and custom recovery installed." Well I'm not. And when I try to do those things I keep running into other articles telling me all the ways doing that will ruin my phone.
All I want is KitKat without having to wait for BigRed to give it to me. Is that possible? Assume I just bought the phone from Verizon and I'm peeling off the screen protector sticker for the first time.
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Nope, you can't get Kit Kat until Verizon officially releases an update.
Read the 4.3 sticky in the development section.
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I haven't used it as I didn't allow the 4.3 update, but you could look into safestrap - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2605648
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I have motorola Razr Maxx HD... recently I updated system to 9.18.79. However, today i saw cyanogenmod 10.2 version roll out and I really want to try 4.3 version since I have been stuck on 4.1 for almost a year. Unfortunately, when I try using motopocalypse to unlock bootloader, it keeps failing. Than I was thinking maybe I can downgrading back to the old version than unlock bootloader but on the website it says DO NOT USE THIS UTILITY ON THE LATEST 4.1.2 OTA UPDATE. I guess 9.18.79 is the newest OTA version. Therefore, I was wondering if there is anyway that i can unlock bootloader under 9.18.79 or downgrade whole system to lower version. So I can install cyanogenmod 10.2
Thank you
You're out of luck, sorry. There's no way to unlock after taking the newest OTA.
I believe that the correct answers to your questions about your recently updated Razr Maxx HD are -- NO, at this time there is no way to unlock the bootloader if you've installed the 9.18.79 update, YES, you can still root your phone. YES, you can downgrade your phone to 9.16.6 (but you still won't be able to unlock your bootloader after doing so). I have a Maxx HD with exactly this set of circumstances. The phone was running 9.18.79 when I got it. After having no luck unlocking the bootloader (as expected) I was able to root it using a method I found in this forum, then installed SafeStrap, then installed a couple of older stock kernel-based custom ROMs. It's certainly not as good as before the update but I'm rooted, all my apps run and I'm rid of all the Verizon bloatware. Not perfect but not bad.
lesdense said:
I believe that the correct answers to your questions about your recently updated Razr Maxx HD are -- NO, at this time there is no way to unlock the bootloader if you've installed the 9.18.79 update, YES, you can still root your phone. YES, you can downgrade your phone to 9.16.6 (but you still won't be able to unlock your bootloader after doing so). I have a Maxx HD with exactly this set of circumstances. The phone was running 9.18.79 when I got it. After having no luck unlocking the bootloader (as expected) I was able to root it using a method I found in this forum, then installed SafeStrap, then installed a couple of older stock kernel-based custom ROMs. It's certainly not as good as before the update but I'm rooted, all my apps run and I'm rid of all the Verizon bloatware. Not perfect but not bad.
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Thank you for the reply...yeah i am able to root my phone...but performance is still under my expectation...Just really want to try out of 4.3 because it seem to have much better optimize. Thank you for all the information..
jackforever said:
Thank you for the reply...yeah i am able to root my phone...but performance is still under my expectation...Just really want to try out of 4.3 because it seem to have much better optimize. Thank you for all the information..
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Well that's why you never take updates without knowing for sure you can still use tools. Lesson learned.
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deeje00 said:
Well that's why you never take updates without knowing for sure you can still use tools. Lesson learned.
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I'm in the same boat, I have one question. Does anyone use the Motorola way to unlock bootloader? I found the website to unlock, wondered why that isn't an option.
It's for developer editions only.
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Thanks for answering these questions. Who and how close are they to unlocking it? Do you see it happening soon?
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Thanks for answering these questions. Who and how close are they to unlocking it? Do you see it happening soon?
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I don't think anyone is working on this. The guy who came up with the exploit to unlock the bootloader in the first place said immediately after releasing it that he isn't touching Motorola devices' bootloaders anymore because they have become so difficult to crack. The update in the 9.16 OTA patched a pretty big security hole in the basic Android framework. That was a good thing because it prevents thieves from hacking your phone (hopefully) but it also took away a lot of our "freedom" with these devices, unfortunately.
Basically the process of finding a way to unlock the bootloaders is extremely difficult and not a rewarding enough venture for anyone to bother with right now. Don't hold your breath for a bootloader unlock anytime soon (likely never). If you've updated to 9.16 (I'm with you here, after replacing a bootloader unlocked, rooted and running CM10.1 phone with a cracked screen through insurance and receiving a replacement with an un-unlockable bootloader out of the box) kiss your ROMing dreams goodbye. The best you can do with the phone now is root it, install SafeStrap and run ROMs based off the stock kernel.
My advice to any and all willing to listen:
Get away from Verizon as fast as you can. They are making sure their phones release now-a-days with un-unlockable bootloaders. The upcoming Droid Ultra, Maxx, and Mini as well as the Moto X will all be locked down with no hope of unlocking their bootloaders on Verizon. The ATT Moto X will also not have an unlockable bootloader.
The best carrier for devs and flash hounds will be T-Mobile from here on out as they are marketing to people with their own devices and not locking down the software the way the big V is.
This really sucks because my favorite thing about my Razr HD Maxx is the battery, and the only thing close to or better as far as battery size/life coming out is the new Droid Maxx. With out being abkle to install a custom ROM, though I feel like I'm using an iPhone. But a good alternative may be an S4 on T-Mobs with an extended battery (thanks to Samsungs removable batteries) or charging case or something like that.
You are a wealth of information, thank you!
Would I be able to install any rom with safestrap? and then I would just be stuck with current kernal? Or does the rom have to be special in some way? I want to get the CyanogenMod 10.3 version. Thoughts? If I can't, what would be the best option as far as stock kernal rom?
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I don't think anyone is working on this. The guy who came up with the exploit to unlock the bootloader in the first place said immediately after releasing it that he isn't touching Motorola devices' bootloaders anymore because they have become so difficult to crack. The update in the 9.16 OTA patched a pretty big security hole in the basic Android framework. That was a good thing because it prevents thieves from hacking your phone (hopefully) but it also took away a lot of our "freedom" with these devices, unfortunately.
Basically the process of finding a way to unlock the bootloaders is extremely difficult and not a rewarding enough venture for anyone to bother with right now. Don't hold your breath for a bootloader unlock anytime soon (likely never). If you've updated to 9.16 (I'm with you here, after replacing a bootloader unlocked, rooted and running CM10.1 phone with a cracked screen through insurance and receiving a replacement with an un-unlockable bootloader out of the box) kiss your ROMing dreams goodbye. The best you can do with the phone now is root it, install SafeStrap and run ROMs based off the stock kernel.
My advice to any and all willing to listen:
Get away from Verizon as fast as you can. They are making sure their phones release now-a-days with un-unlockable bootloaders. The upcoming Droid Ultra, Maxx, and Mini as well as the Moto X will all be locked down with no hope of unlocking their bootloaders on Verizon. The ATT Moto X will also not have an unlockable bootloader.
The best carrier for devs and flash hounds will be T-Mobile from here on out as they are marketing to people with their own devices and not locking down the software the way the big V is.
This really sucks because my favorite thing about my Razr HD Maxx is the battery, and the only thing close to or better as far as battery size/life coming out is the new Droid Maxx. With out being abkle to install a custom ROM, though I feel like I'm using an iPhone. But a good alternative may be an S4 on T-Mobs with an extended battery (thanks to Samsungs removable batteries) or charging case or something like that.
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Hey man, So I have SafeStrap but I am having a hard time finding roms that will work with safestrap. do you know of any?
dudewithspots said:
You are a wealth of information, thank you!
Would I be able to install any rom with safestrap? and then I would just be stuck with current kernal? Or does the rom have to be special in some way? I want to get the CyanogenMod 10.3 version. Thoughts? If I can't, what would be the best option as far as stock kernal rom?
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None of the new roms only roms based on stock. Your gonna have to dig to roms started before April.
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no exciting news about the current version of unlock still?
The new one probably won't be unlocked.
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I unfortunately upgraded to 9.18.79 a while back and now that i'd like to unlock the bootloader, I can't.
However, I do have best buy insurance, assuming my screen is broken, I can get the device replaced with a refurbished unit. What are the odds the refurbished unit has not been updated to a version that cannot be unlocked?
thanks
ajent said:
I unfortunately upgraded to 9.18.79 a while back and now that i'd like to unlock the bootloader, I can't.
However, I do have best buy insurance, assuming my screen is broken, I can get the device replaced with a refurbished unit. What are the odds the refurbished unit has not been updated to a version that cannot be unlocked?
thanks
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The odds are getting slimmer and slimmer as the days go on, but I have still seen a few people get replacements that have not been updated.
http://www.xda-developers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Screenshot_2013-12-18-16-20-14-576x1024.png
Hello, I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 I535 (Verizon) and have been done with flashing custom roms for a while now. I figured I would just wait until my contract is up in May go to At&t and get the Nexus 5 (straight off Google's site). I actually got in the mood to put Cyanogenmod on my phone until my contract is finally up. I hear all of this talk about Knox and once you upgrade to 4.3 I535VRUCML1 there is no turning back.
Can someone with plenty of experience confirm that there is absolutely no possible way to get Cyanogenmod on my phone at this point without bricking it. I have been searching all over the web and just can't figure it out. Some people are coming up with guides to flash a hacked version of the VRUCML1 update and then install CWM and Cyanogenmod from there.
So the main question is...
Is it possible at all to ever get CWM / Cyanogenmod back on my S3 that currently has the latest (4.3 I535VRUCML1). I am willing to attempt anything since I am getting rid of the phone in 2 months. Also not selling it afterwards since screen is cracked.
There is no way yet, but maybe soon. A post looked promising a few days ago.
I'll post here if I find something.
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I also am very interested in this topic, same build phone and also want to use Cynogenmod
CVE-2014-0973
https://www.codeaurora.org/projects...arsing-during-boot-image-authentication-leads
Is this going to be of any benefit to us?
According to NighthawkXL it may benifit us, he says it looks good on paper, but implementing the exploit tk a device is a different ball game, i beleive it will help acheive an exploit for the samsung bootloader, but only time will tell
AT&T Galaxy S4 4.3 MK2 rooted with saferoot, safestrap recovery installed, Running Hyperdrive ROM, Praying for unlocked bootloader lol
LiLPurP said:
According to NighthawkXL it may benifit us, he says it looks good on paper, but implementing the exploit tk a device is a different ball game, i beleive it will help acheive an exploit for the samsung bootloader, but only time will tell
AT&T Galaxy S4 4.3 MK2 rooted with saferoot, safestrap recovery installed, Running Hyperdrive ROM, Praying for unlocked bootloader lol
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Do take my statement with a grain of salt however. It'll probably be a few days before Surge & Co. make any statements regarding this exploit. The big question though is if this is Dan Rosenberg's TrustZone kernel exploit that he'll be showing off at Blackhat in August or if this something else in the code for LittleKernel.
I have been wondering that since i first saw it, guess we will have to wait and see, has anyone asked him about it, or has he commented at all on the subject?
AT&T Galaxy S4 4.3 MK2 rooted with saferoot, safestrap recovery installed, Running Hyperdrive ROM, Praying for unlocked bootloader lol
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Has anyone asked him about it, or has he commented at all on the subject?
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I doubt it, and even so he'll likely decline to comment. He and XDA have had fallout of sorts...
Thats is quite unfortunate, ive hear ppl say the same, but im not to sure what happened, would love to kno if u have time to pm me, but either way he is a great dev, and hopefully this is a great find
AT&T Galaxy S4 4.3 MK2 rooted with saferoot, safestrap recovery installed, Running Hyperdrive ROM, Praying for unlocked bootloader lol
Something might get an unlock from this but not likely to be a Sammy device. Ryanbg, jeboo and myself all looked into it before finding out from a couple of highly reliable sources that Samsung devices aren't effected, including ralekdev (he also was the one who reported it).
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Something might get an unlock from this but not likely to be a Sammy device. Ryanbg, jeboo and myself all looked into it before finding out from a couple of highly reliable sources that Samsung devices aren't effected, including ralekdev (he also was the one who reported it).
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Figured it was too good to be true. Looking forward to Blackhat and the things that might come from it. Thanks Surge and keep up the good work!!!!
Anyone heard if development for the Kexec moduel on the s4 has made any progress?
AT&T Galaxy S4 4.3 MK2 rooted with saferoot, safestrap recovery installed, Running Hyperdrive ROM, Praying for unlocked bootloader lol
Hey XDA,
I want to downgrade my verizon s3 to 4.1.2 from 4.3 in order to flash a custom rom (that isn't TW based so I can't use safestrap). I did a google search and found this link:
androidpit[ENTER DOTCOM HERE]/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s3
I have heard that trying to downgrade will trip Knox and your phone will be bricked. So basically my question is would this work..
**also my contract is about to end, once it ends will Verizon have to unlock my boot loader?
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Hey XDA,
I want to downgrade my verizon s3 to 4.1.2 from 4.3 in order to flash a custom rom (that isn't TW based so I can't use safestrap). I did a google search and found this link:
androidpit[ENTER DOTCOM HERE]/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s3
I have heard that trying to downgrade will trip Knox and your phone will be bricked. So basically my question is would this work..
**also my contract is about to end, once it ends will Verizon have to unlock my boot loader?
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That link had been posted in this forum before. It is for the international version of the s3. It will not work on the Verizon version and will brick your phone. You cannot downgrade the Verizon s3 from 4.3 or higher.
No, Verizon does not have to unlock your bootloader when your contract ends. They have to SIM unlock your phone so it can be used on other carriers. Wrong unlock.
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That link had been posted in this forum before. It is for the international version of the s3. It will not work on the Verizon version and will brick your phone. You cannot downgrade the Verizon s3 from 4.3 or higher.
No, Verizon does not have to unlock your bootloader when your contract ends. They have to SIM unlock your phone so it can be used on other carriers. Wrong unlock.
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Ok, well there has been a 4.4 update OTA that I haven't taken yet. I know I can easily root if I took it. Has there been any success with flashing roms on that firmware or is it the same verizon garbage and I should just stay on 4.3 because I am more likely to get a boot loader unlock/solution to this issue.
(I'm about ready to sell this phone and buy an at&t phone I have had enough with verizon's overpriced non-service.)
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Ok, well there has been a 4.4 update OTA that I haven't taken yet. I know I can easily root if I took it. Has there been any success with flashing roms on that firmware or is it the same verizon garbage and I should just stay on 4.3 because I am more likely to get a boot loader unlock/solution to this issue.
(I'm about ready to sell this phone and buy an at&t phone I have had enough with verizon's overpriced non-service.)
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The 4.4.2 update is also locked down. Pretty much no chance of getting bootloader unlocked on 4.3 or 4.4. If you want to run a custom ROM, you will have to stick with 4.3 and use safestrap to run a custom 4.3 touchwiz ROM. No AOSP, and no custom kernels for you.
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So, I've been kinda digging around slightly. Between the Cyanogen mod site, and XDA. Everything says you want like 4.2.2 or previous to that basically to root your device or thats what most of the write ups are for anyways.
What I can't find is tutorials on how to revert your phone BACK to something older so I can root my phone. Its kinda been a pain in the butt because my stock rom keeps messing up on me. (Gotta love touchwiz & Verizon...)
So I've been wanting to get back to CM.
So has Verizon finally hit the top of the asshole tree and locked the bootloader to where we can't do anything anymore? And rooting a device that is on stock 4.4.2 isn't possible anymore?
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So, I've been kinda digging around slightly. Between the Cyanogen mod site, and XDA. Everything says you want like 4.2.2 or previous to that basically to root your device or thats what most of the write ups are for anyways.
What I can't find is tutorials on how to revert your phone BACK to something older so I can root my phone. Its kinda been a pain in the butt because my stock rom keeps messing up on me. (Gotta love touchwiz & Verizon...)
So I've been wanting to get back to CM.
So has Verizon finally hit the top of the asshole tree and locked the bootloader to where we can't do anything anymore? And rooting a device that is on stock 4.4.2 isn't possible anymore?
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Rooting is possible (towelroot) but reverting to a previous version, 4.3, 4.1.2 or anything else once on 4.4.2 is no longer an option
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ShapesBlue said:
Rooting is possible (towelroot) but reverting to a previous version, 4.3, 4.1.2 or anything else once on 4.4.2 is no longer an option
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Got any links to documentation so I could accomplish this?
And whats good for a nice lean running snappy rom thats clean. I essentially just want to get to a point where my phone works properly without lag.
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Got any links to documentation so I could accomplish this?
And whats good for a nice lean running snappy rom thats clean. I essentially just want to get to a point where my phone works properly without lag.
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Are you on 4.4.2? And towelroot.com is where to get it. If your on 4.4.2 your only option is to install safestrap and go from there. Custom roms aren't an option anymore
Safestrap for 4.4.2 NE1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797314
My suggestion is to read, read and read again
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ShapesBlue said:
Are you on 4.4.2? And towelroot.com is where to get it. If your on 4.4.2 your only option is to install safestrap and go from there. Custom roms aren't an option anymore
Safestrap for 4.4.2 NE1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797314
My suggestion is to read, read and read again
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Yeah. 4.4.2 stock.