Idea for Higher Resolution Pictures - Verizon HTC One (M8)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.nsystem.resize
I don't know how well this works but I like it. What the app does is basically upscale your photographs up to 12megapixels. I have compared the same picture on my macbook, one with the enhancement and the other without and can notice more detail when zooming in. There's a lot of options and I am not a big techie but it seems that bicubic interpolation is what to use. Photoshop has the effect and it works the same way. Maybe someone, if possible, could find a way to incorporate this into ROMs so that our camera could be better since that is my only complaint about this phone.

The image can only produce what the sensor/lens allows. Software cannot up a MP, that's a hardware thing. Don't fall for the "omg 4 MP camera" saying, the camera on the M8 is no slouch. Megapixels only come into play when your either zooming in or trying to print out a large picture.
If there were pictures from various 8+ MP cameras mixed with the M8, you and anyone else would never know.
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The m8 does take great pictures.... Sometimes in just the right lighting but like richii said, the megapixels are not to blame. The lens and software are what hold this thing back.
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I realize that each person is different, but I use my phone to take spontaneous photos and videos of my friends, family and life. If I want a good picture, I'm not taking them with ANY phone (Nokia, HTC, Samsung, etc.) I would use my wife's Nikon D3000 (or to be honest, let her take them, lol).
If the HTC One (M7 & M8) have to the lower MP to take the excellent low-light photos that they do, IMHO it's a fair trade-off. My M7 and now M8 blow away my wife's photos she takes with her S4.
Side note: I think I've used the flash 2 times since I purchased the M7 back in August of 2013. My wife almost always has to use hers.

Wow. My m8 must have faulty camera. My s4 blows my gf m7 and my m8 out of the water in every scenario including low light
I knew this going into this phone though. I bought it for everything but the camera.
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Evocm7 said:
Wow. My m8 must have faulty camera. My s4 blows my gf m7 and my m8 out of the water in every scenario including low light
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I failed to say that my M7/M8 blows away my wife's S4 in regards to low-light photos, and probably color accuracy as well.
You must have a bad one... every "expert" comparison of photos between the two phones that I've seen, the color and clarity of detail (with little light in the shot) on the M8 is distinctly better. If you're viewing the photos on a 50" TV, perhaps that's why, but 99% of my photos are viewed on my phone or by my Facebook friends, which are downsized anyway.
The day I see a professional photographer whip out and use an iPhone or Galaxy S5 to take my family portrait is the day that a Smartphone's camera really matters. Until that day, there is no substitute for a standalone camera when it comes to photo quality.

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[Q] Why is the camera so bad in the inspire

I made the switch just this past weekend to the Inspire and gave my iPhone 4 to my wife. I don't miss the iPhone except for its camera. Compared to the Inspires camera, the iPhone 4 camera is like a 20982340823 megapixel camera.
Please don't take this as a troll post or an Apple fanboy post, its not. I just wonder if its my phone, the inspire, or android in general that causes the absolutely awful pictures. The grain is horrific, and no matter how still I hold the camera, the shot blurs.
I'm not new to photography either, its a part-time hobby for me. Just really disappointed with the camera so far
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I made the switch just this past weekend to the Inspire and gave my iPhone 4 to my wife. I don't miss the iPhone except for its camera. Compared to the Inspires camera, the iPhone 4 camera is like a 20982340823 megapixel camera.
Please don't take this as a troll post or an Apple fanboy post, its not. I just wonder if its my phone, the inspire, or android in general that causes the absolutely awful pictures. The grain is horrific, and no matter how still I hold the camera, the shot blurs.
I'm not new to photography either, its a part-time hobby for me. Just really disappointed with the camera so far
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is this on the stock rom? is it any different on custom roms?
Apple has had 4 years to adjust one camera app. Simple as that. Android has 197941218894 camera apps. by that I mean that come stock
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I have read a few post claiming what you are, I personally have owned iphone 4 and compared with mine I definately can say its not a big difference if any, I dont have any grainy problems that some talk about. The pictures are real clear. Maybe go check out a demo model at att and take pic and see if it is any different.
I agree the Camera on this phone leaves something to be desired. I am hoping they will update this with an OTA. If I remember right HTC did something like that with the Incredibles Camera. My wife has an iPhone 4 and that is pretty much the benchmark by which all cellphone camera's are measured (N8 excluded of course). This camera seams to work OK if nothing is moving, but trying to get any picture of my 4 year old is impossible with the Inspire.
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I agree the Camera on this phone leaves something to be desired.
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I c wut u did thar
My inspire is completely stock.
I haven't used any if the market apps for the inspire yet, so maybe there is some hope in a different app.
Are any of the other roms different/better?
I use android revolution and notice a significant improvement in the camera. Not sure why but it is much better. Hard to beat iphone 4 camera...
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I've got the opposite problem. My DSLR makes lousy phone calls.
Cannibul said:
I've got the opposite problem. My DSLR makes lousy phone calls.
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Are you holding it right?
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If you change the iso to 400 or so things tend to improve. Htc has never been known for their camera. It is passable.
Its because the iPhone 4 has a larger sensor in its camera. While the iPhone is only 5 megapixels, the larger sensor makes a very noticeable difference in quality so it is less grainy and takes better low light shots. An update to the Inspire can't fix the quality, it needs a bigger sensor.
I think the camera in the inspire 4g is great. However, i am comparing to my dell streak which sux. I feel more like im shooting with my hd2 now, which had an amazing camera
it may be an inaccurate observation on my part but it seems like after the camera focuses and i take a shot, the picture ends up being blurred just slightly. it's never as sharp as immediately after the auto focus.
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it may be an inaccurate observation on my part but it seems like after the camera focuses and i take a shot, the picture ends up being blurred just slightly. it's never as sharp as immediately after the auto focus.
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Yes that's accurate. It definitely has a tendency to do that from what I've seen. One way to minimize that is to press and hold the camera/shutter button until the picture takes instead of waiting for it to focus and then tapping the button. Don't know if you already do that or not, but if you don't it might be worth a try. Hope it helps.
As someone else mentioned, it is the sensor that matters, not MP (as you know). Unfortunately, other than Nokia (and Apple, to a lesser extent) phone manufacturers seem to randomly pick an available sensor in the price/MP range they want for the camera, stick it in, and forget about it. Unfortunately this is an industry-trend, so I don't see anyone changing soon. Can't wait to see what Nokia does with some WP7 goodness in their hardware. *notatroll*
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As someone else mentioned, it is the sensor that matters, not MP (as you know). Unfortunately, other than Nokia (and Apple, to a lesser extent) phone manufacturers seem to randomly pick an available sensor in the price/MP range they want for the camera, stick it in, and forget about it. Unfortunately this is an industry-trend, so I don't see anyone changing soon. Can't wait to see what Nokia does with some WP7 goodness in their hardware. *notatroll*
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sony ericsson takes great photos too
mcca555 said:
sony ericsson takes great photos too
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True, although they haven't had a good camera-centric phone since the K850.
I actually have had good experiences with my camera.. hmm...
I think the camera does a pretty good job. Does this have the same camera as the EVO? If so I saw some pics that the EVO took compared to iPhone 4 and they look pretty damn close.

One S vs iPhone 4S camera comparison

So out of curiosity I took some pictures with my One S and an iPhone 4S to try and see if there is a significant difference in camera quality. Unfortunately I didnt quite manage to take identical pictures, but it gives you some idea at least.
Personally I think its a rather close call, so Im happy with my One S for sure.
I posted the results here.
What do you think?
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Really? Thanks ill look into it!
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Hmm its pretty close i say but i think that the iphone4s gives more true colors on android devices many of them are greyish washed out like...
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The one S definatly beats the iPhone 4s. The 4s really desaturated a lot of colors. Their are comparisons on youtube.
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Hmm its pretty close i say but i think that the iphone4s gives more true colors on android devices many of them are greyish washed out like...
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I think I may have to agree with you. I find the colors more vivid on the photos taken by the iPhone 4S. It is indeed a close call though.
The iPhone 4S outdoor photo looks much sharper in the corners and upper edge (better lens?). Here is another comparison (One X / $s)
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/03/30/iphone-4s-vs-htc-one-x-cameras-compared/
Could you rename the files to clearly show which one is from which phone?
Could you re-check the focus - the HTC one looks front-focussed?
The 4S camera is better from those pictures - but others should note that the focal lengths are not the same - this makes comparisons very difficult.
FWIW I own 4 DSLRs and 10 lenses (mostly primes) - so Ive seen way too many camera test shots
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The iPhone 4S outdoor photo looks much sharper in the corners and upper edge (better lens?). Here is another comparison (One X / $s)
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/03/30/iphone-4s-vs-htc-one-x-cameras-compared/
Could you rename the files to clearly show which one is from which phone?
Could you re-check the focus - the HTC one looks front-focussed?
The 4S camera is better from those pictures - but others should note that the focal lengths are not the same - this makes comparisons very difficult.
FWIW I own 4 DSLRs and 10 lenses (mostly primes) - so Ive seen way too many camera test shots
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Meh even if the iphone camera beats the one X it still doesn't make IOS/Apple better then ANDROID / Google.
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Thanks for comparison.
P.S. nice mouse
You cant compare the camera quality from the iPhone 4s with the one s because of screen resolution and size. The iPhones has a small screen with high resolution and higher pixels per inch with a 3.5 inch screen. So taking a pic with the iPhone and looking at the pic from the iPhones screen, quality is going to look much better but doesn't mean it is.
Take a pic with the iphone, send it to your one s and look at the pic you took with the iPhone through the one s screen. The pic won't even load full size, they will load super tiny. And if you try to blow them up, they will get distorted. Even when my cousin and my friend that own an iPhone 4 send me pics, I always receive them really small, every single time.
There's no way the Iphones camera quality should be even close to the one s camera quality. One s should be 10x better.
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You cant compare the camera quality from the iPhone 4s with the one s because of screen resolution and size. The iPhones has a small screen with high resolution and higher pixels per inch with a 3.5 inch screen. So taking a pic with the iPhone and looking at the pic from the iPhones screen, quality is going to look much better but doesn't mean it is.
Take a pic with the iphone, send it to your one s and look at the pic you took with the iPhone through the one s screen. The pic won't even load full size, they will load super tiny. And if you try to blow them up, they will get distorted. Even when my cousin and my friend that own an iPhone 4 send me pics, I always receive them really small, every single time.
There's no way the Iphones camera quality should be even close to the one s camera quality. One s should be 10x better.
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I think you have a lot to learn about phones and their cameras. The resolution on the pictures taken by the iPhone 4S has nothing to do with the size or resolution of the screen. The 8 megapixles produce appropriate high resolution pictures regardless of the screen. Imagine my Canon 450d only taking pictures in 640x480 because that's the resolution of the display on it.
Sorry mate, but you have it all wrong. The One S and the iPhone 4S both take pictures at the same resolution so they are just as big. The only difference is the optics, and that is what we are discussing here.
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Untouchab1e said:
I think you have a lot to learn about phones and their cameras. The resolution on the pictures taken by the iPhone 4S has nothing to do with the size or resolution of the screen. The 8 megapixles produce appropriate high resolution pictures regardless of the screen. Imagine my Canon 450d only taking pictures in 640x480 because that's the resolution of the display on it.
Sorry mate, but you have it all wrong. The One S and the iPhone 4S both take pictures at the same resolution so they are just as big. The only difference is the optics, and that is what we are discussing here.
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+1 !!!
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Untouchab1e said:
I think you have a lot to learn about phones and their cameras. The resolution on the pictures taken by the iPhone 4S has nothing to do with the size or resolution of the screen. The 8 megapixles produce appropriate high resolution pictures regardless of the screen. Imagine my Canon 450d only taking pictures in 640x480 because that's the resolution of the display on it.
Sorry mate, but you have it all wrong. The One S and the iPhone 4S both take pictures at the same resolution so they are just as big. The only difference is the optics, and that is what we are discussing here.
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Really? So you're telling me that a bunch of pixels packed into a small screen has nothing to do on how a picture looks on a screen?
A small screen with a lot of pixel is going to have a higher resolution resulting in finer cleaner pictures, but thats only from the 4s screen view. Like I said, take the same pic with the 4s and the one s, send the 4s pic to the one s and compare both pics viewing the from the one s gallery.
8 megapixels for both devices
iPhone 4S has HDR
One S has HDR, SmartFlash, VideoPicture , Slow Motion 60fps , Fast Burst Mode ,Backside illuminated sensor and much Sense interface complements the camera really well.
I don't want third party apps to interfere, One S hands down wins, no contest. And Android OS makes it much easier to transfer photos, iTunes is horrific for syncing. Anyone who thinks the iPhone wins is an apple fanboy.
I have HAD the iPhone4S previously, it took good photos but it crumbles when it comes to the One S.
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Really? So you're telling me that a bunch of pixels packed into a small screen has nothing to do on how a picture looks on a screen?
A small screen with a lot of pixel is going to have a higher resolution resulting in finer cleaner pictures, but thats only from the 4s screen view. Like I said, take the same pic with the 4s and the one s, send the 4s pic to the one s and compare both pics viewing the from the one s gallery.
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I get your point but regardless of the screen either its retina or not take the pics from both phone and put them online then we can compare if we compare like phone side by side its obviously the i4s the winner...
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AndroidBlizzard said:
8 megapixels for both devices
iPhone 4S has HDR
One S has HDR, SmartFlash, VideoPicture , Slow Motion 60fps , Fast Burst Mode ,Backside illuminated sensor and much Sense interface complements the camera really well.
I don't want third party apps to interfere, One S hands down wins, no contest. And Android OS makes it much easier to transfer photos, iTunes is horrific for syncing. Anyone who thinks the iPhone wins is an apple fanboy.
I have HAD the iPhone4S previously, it took good photos but it crumbles when it comes to the One S.
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The iPhone 4S has a backside illuminated sensor, relatively fast burst mode (as fast as you can push de shutter button) and a better lens than the One S (even if not as bright).
You also do not have to go near iTunes to pull pictures off of an iPhone. You can use dropbox, email them, have them automatically upload to iCloud and if you're on a PC, connecting the iPhone via usb will open up a folder where you can directly access all your photos, just like on android.
The amount of ignorance and misinformation when it comes to iPhones on XDA is sometimes quite amusing. I keep seeing people criticize without having gone near one and having no hands on experience with iOS.
So yes, the One S has a pretty good camera, but the iPhone's is slightly better on the hardware side. You could argue that the software on the HTC compensates with a multitude of options, so if anything it becomes a matter of wanting to play around with the camera interface or just wanting to point and shoot. I do like the HDR mode on the One better.
I don't think this is a definitive comparison.
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Really? So you're telling me that a bunch of pixels packed into a small screen has nothing to do on how a picture looks on a screen?
A small screen with a lot of pixel is going to have a higher resolution resulting in finer cleaner pictures, but thats only from the 4s screen view. Like I said, take the same pic with the 4s and the one s, send the 4s pic to the one s and compare both pics viewing the from the one s gallery.
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You are still getting it all wrong. The camera and screen are two different components.
If your argument was valid, then it woulndt matter what kind of camera optics you put on the phone, as apparently you think its the screen that determines the quality of the pictures you take. So with your logic, if you put the iPhone 4S's camera on the One S, and the One S's camera on the iPhone 4S, the One S would still take better pictures. You sir, are totally getting it wrong.
I dont care how the pictures look when viewed on the phone, the quality of the pictures taken are determined by how they look either when printed out or on a computer. So the screen on the phone is irrelevant in this matter. When you buy a regular camera, do you determine the quality of the picture they take by the resolution of the screen? I am quite shocked by your flawed logic.. Though if you still dont get it, how about I take a picture with both phones and send it to you, then you can try and determine which picture came from which phone. Since you claim the One S takes 10 times better pictures, it should be an easy match, eh?
EDIT: Actually, Ill just upload them here.. Since its so obvious to you which phone takes the way better pictures, tell me if which phone took the picture named aaaa.jpg and which one took bbbb.jpg.
AndroidBlizzard said:
8 megapixels for both devices
iPhone 4S has HDR
One S has HDR, SmartFlash, VideoPicture , Slow Motion 60fps , Fast Burst Mode ,Backside illuminated sensor and much Sense interface complements the camera really well.
I don't want third party apps to interfere, One S hands down wins, no contest. And Android OS makes it much easier to transfer photos, iTunes is horrific for syncing. Anyone who thinks the iPhone wins is an apple fanboy.
I have HAD the iPhone4S previously, it took good photos but it crumbles when it comes to the One S.
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But this isnt about third party apps or how easy it is to transfer photos. Its simply about the quality of the image. No reason to put fanboyism into the equation.
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But this isnt about third party apps or how easy it is to transfer photos. Its simply about the quality of the image. No reason to put fanboyism into the equation.
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Do not bother yourself he's just a fanboy ...
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[Discussion] Quality of Camera's on Phones

It would be nice to hear some opinions on this following thoughts I've had, ever since I upgraded my phone last year from an iPhone 3G (2.5mp camera I think) to an Xperia Arc S, which at the time was the highest quality / size MP camera on a phone at 8MP, which is still a decent size for a phone camera today, as mid-ranged phones usually start at around 5-8MP and the super smart phones these days are running upward of 10MP, I think 13MP is the highest, at least on Android, that Nokia Symbian phone was like... 42MP? Or at least the fidelity / quality resembled that due to its massive lens housing, god knows what was in there, but if I remember rightly it was only 5MP images... Someone correct me.
Anyway, with my Arc S at 8MP, the images are fairly decent, I mean they're never going to be used for print, so it doesn't really need to be higher. However, as an art graduate, I spend time when I can taking photographs, and I have a 14MP Sony NEX 5, which as standard is already a better quality sensor than the tiny ones that make it into a phone.
My first point is it's still only 1MP higher than these smartphones, which makes me think; say I upgrade my phone in 1 year when 16MP is the highest, now we've gone over, for me I'm reluctant to go higher than my camera because I'd probably be swayed to using the phone more for photography, though the phones would probably have to be double the MP of a decent camera to really compare.
Secondly, Lenses, well the one on my Arc S is fairly standard, though probably more complex than some others as I think it has 7 layers of various shaped pieces of glass. But when it comes down to it, any photographer will tell you it's almost 100% the lens that really makes a photograph what it is, the phones are getting better quality, but the lenses probably aren't, the phones are constantly trying to get thinner which doesn't help matters, but phones have actually gotten fatter sue to bigger screens needing bigger battery, so I'm unsure on this part of the topic.
The lenses I use on my NEX are Canon FD mounts, a format from the early to mid 70's all the way up to about 1994, they are manual lenses because of their age and incompatibility with modern auto-focus, but the quality is superb, and I'm not just saying it, one of the lenses is a 1.4 50mm prime, and can do some great shots, though the camera isn't full frame so the lens works out at 75mm, but I also have a 28mm 2.2 (I think?) prime, which works out around 42mm and is really good.
Both lenses are dated between 1972 and 1982, and no current phone could replicate the fidelity, bokeh and colour, which is one of the reasons why proper cameras will always have the advantage. (The NEX doesn't have a mirror inside so can replicate the original setup of older cameras easily, meaning a huge number of adaptors allows tons of different lenses to become available)
However with the Nokia pureview phone (still don't remember its name... 850?...) It had a body capable of housing some very interesting tech, that hasn't really been used since, at least to my knowledge. Seeing some pictures online really showed you what this phone was capable of, I think the resolution of the images were in the ten thousands X whatever, and remained really sharp, for a phone at least. Maybe it's lack of success is due to it been on a non-leading OS at the time, I can imagine people would want a camera with maybe an Android phone? (Which apparently, Nokia are working on) so maybe it will see it's true colours shine on a larger base OS. If this tech is worth the larger body size of a phone, people are going to want it...
And lastly, Convenience. One of the main points of having a camera is to be able to capture moments WHENEVER, and having a decent camera on a phone has been a growing trend over the past few years, with the growth of social networks, YouTube and Instagram. And you're more likely to have a phone with you than a camera for a situation that's spontaneous.
So what are peoples thoughts? A few months back Jessops one of the leading camera sales company in the UK went into administration, with only a few stores been saved;
Will we see a heightening trend amongst phones been used instead of standalone cameras?
Will they (DSLR's etc) be phased out completely?
Are you an avid photographer with your phone, or do you use a standalone camera?
Am I wrong?
I'd like to hear some opinions, hopefuly some educated ones on the subject will give a sense on the spectrum of issues.
Another point to consider, Smart-Cameras, the new trend of cameras running Android, though I don't think any have interchangeable lenses.
Thanks for reading, also... You may need to change some 'if's to 'of's because my phone has a habit of changing my words.
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I use my phone for everyday rubbish shots (whatsapp and such) and storing information (bustimes, lists, important stuff i take a snapshot of.) .
It will NEVER replace my DSLR.
It simply lacks the functionalities of one. So long as I can't set aperture and change lenses, it's not a real camera. I need my telezoom and macro lenses.
You can't seriously expect a phone, even that 42mp one to be as high - quality as a dslr. Too many pixels crammed into way too small a sensor. As it has always been with phones.
Not to mention, phones lack the power of a dslr. Ever tried taking nightshots with a phone? They're bad. Very bad. Or high speed shots. Nuhuh, they cant. Or far-zoom?
Lets face it, cameras on phones are not meant for professionals. They're meant for people on facebook, twitter and instagram.
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ShadowLea said:
I use my phone for everyday rubbish shots (whatsapp and such) and storing information (bustimes, lists, important stuff i take a snapshot of.) .
It will NEVER replace my DSLR.
It simply lacks the functionalities of one. So long as I can't set aperture and change lenses, it's not a real camera. I need my telezoom and macro lenses.
You can't seriously expect a phone, even that 42mp one to be as high - quality as a dslr. Too many pixels crammed into way too small a sensor. As it has always been with phones.
Not to mention, phones lack the power of a dslr. Ever tried taking nightshots with a phone? They're bad. Very bad. Or high speed shots. Nuhuh, they cant. Or far-zoom?
Lets face it, cameras on phones are not meant for professionals. They're meant for people on facebook, twitter and instagram.
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Man how can you compare a DSLR with a smartphone camera??, a DSLR is a camera with an awesome quality and the smartphone camera is only a phone with a decent camera and not for pro- photographers.. i would always choose a DLSR over a smartphone camera. And by the way i agree with ShadowLea that you can't cram 42mp in a small lens!!! it is outrageous!
Well, it's to do with trends, if you agree or not is a different matter, but lots of pro photographers and teachers will tell you if you ask, about how important this new revolution is, the quality you can get is pretty good, even compared to digital cameras less than 10 years ago.
If it can take photographs then it's a valid form, there are pro photographers then spend lots of their time using phones for photography, 5MP and decent light is enough, some of these phones are better quality than the point and shoot cameras of recent past.
Instagram, though trendy is a very valid post processing tool, just because the majority of people use it recreationaly it doesn't diminish its power, and usage.
People use Polaroid cameras all the time, and they're quite limited, and the quality can vary greatly. You can't change the lens, and you can't really adjust any settings.
Polaroid is probably most comparable to the quality of the mid range smartphones.
As for the Nokia 41MP camera phone, if you actually look at the images you can get a good sense of the quality. The short article can be found here:
http://www.extremetech.com/electron...review-camera-finally-coming-to-windows-phone
You can also easily find examples by doing an image search on Nokia Pureview.
The convenience of a very good quality camera phone can allow for great photos, which is why it's really taking off as a trend.
Denying it is the same arguments as saying Digital is better than Film, though there are still counter arguments, benefits and people still use film cameras and Polaroid.
There's a statistic recently that goes something like; there have been more photographs taken in 2012 than all previous years since photography's invention combined.
I'm not sure if that's word for word correct, but I think it was on a Vsauce YouTube video not long back.
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I think you need to understand that Professional stands for "getting paid for your work" or "being an accomplished/awarded photographer" and not "I can hold a camera!".
Yes, there have been more photo's taken in the last year than since the invention of the photograph. I do hope you are also aware that this includes every halfbrained moron on Instagram and Facebook posting their friday-night drunk shots.
No selfrespecting real photographer uses a phone's camera for his or her work. The only ones that do are either A, doing an experiment, or B, people on the internet fooling themselves into thinking they're photographers.
PHONE CAMERAS DO NOT HAVE APERATURE SETTINGS. And that's where it all ends. There isn't a single pro or semi-pro who uses a fixed aperature camera.
42MP doesn't make a bloody difference if the sensor is meant for 2MP. The photo's may look fine on the internet, but newsflash: Your monitor is 72DPI, not 300. And a 6000x6000 pixel image is always going to look amazing when downsized to 1920x1080 or lower. (which is what every website does.)
As for trends, they're for the common cattle, not semi/professionals. People with knowledge and experience pay attention to specs, not to hypes.
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ShadowLea said:
I think you need to understand that Professional stands for "getting paid for your work" or "being an accomplished/awarded photographer" and not "I can hold a camera!".
Yes, there have been more photo's taken in the last year than since the invention of the photograph. I do hope you are also aware that this includes every halfbrained moron on Instagram and Facebook posting their friday-night drunk shots.
No selfrespecting real photographer uses a phone's camera for his or her work. The only ones that do are either A, doing an experiment, or B, people on the internet fooling themselves into thinking they're photographers.
PHONE CAMERAS DO NOT HAVE APERATURE SETTINGS. And that's where it all ends. There isn't a single pro or semi-pro who uses a fixed aperature camera.
42MP doesn't make a bloody difference if the sensor is meant for 2MP. The photo's may look fine on the internet, but newsflash: Your monitor is 72DPI, not 300. And a 6000x6000 pixel image is always going to look amazing when downsized to 1920x1080 or lower. (which is what every website does.)
As for trends, they're for the common cattle, not semi/professionals. People with knowledge and experience pay attention to specs, not to hypes.
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I think you're missing my point, I meant professional photographers that use iPhones for photography for non print, recreation, street photography etc.
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For those interested in hearing a pro talk about it, I present, Chase Jarvis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buDa-m65RyA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Reasons to prefer this phone (new byer perspective). 1 . Camera.

New thread series - reasons to buy this phone from a new user, who is myself.
My Android phone history - HTC EVO, HTC EVO 3D, Sprint Epic 4G Touch, HTC Evo LTE, Galaxy S3, Galaxy S4.
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I always have to take 3-5 consecutive shots to get a sharp picture. I think it's because my hands shake, and there's not much I can do about it - it's enough to make even the best-focused shot blurry. This has always been the case with me and smartphone cameras - hold as still as you can, take 3+ shots, and hope you got a good one.
Not so - enter the HTC One m8 camera.
I took many test shots in a Verizon store, and each shot was nearly perfectly focused, after a single try.
I also took many test shots with an S5 in a US Cellular store, and *none* of the shots were focused.
So 16 megapixels were ruined by bad focusing, while 4 megapixels were great on this phone.
I may be somewhat biased because I'm now an owner of the 4MP HTC One m8, but even S5's 16MP camera couldn't hold a candle to the 4MP in my hands.
Please discuss.
Try zooming in..
That's where the camera falls short. (only downfall I see)
I still love it though.
Ya, but that front facing camera though. Snapchat is ****ing dope though
DjCalvin said:
Try zooming in..
That's where the camera falls short. (only downfall I see)
I still love it though.
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Well, you are right in the general sense. 16MP(S5) looks MUCH better than 4MP (factor of 2 in sharpness - 2x2 vs. 4x4) under ideal circumstances. But that isn't the only variable.
But my point was like this - even if I zoom in, blurry cannot be fixed, because of bad focusing on Samsung phones. Blurring made my 13MP shots (S4) look like 1MP at best!
I was actually amazed at how well the HTC camera can help me focus shots - basically, all I had to do was press the button.
Also, the "best shot" is automatic with this camera, whereas on S4, you had to choose the best shot yourself (which makes zero sense.)
While the possibility is there to have better shots with Samsung phones, for me personally, not having to think about the quality and still get good shots is much more important.
I got my wife the S5 for "free" when I bought my m8.
While the camera on the S5 can be good with 16MP, it also makes you hold the damn phone for like 5 seconds to take the picture. Its so annoying. If you were trying to hurry and take a quick snap of something, you wouldn't stand a chance. You hit the shutter button and it seriously says something like "hold steady..." I can't remember exactly, but it take forever to snap the picture.
My m8 on the other hand, is damn instant. Sometimes I feel like I didn't even touch the shutter button yet lol.
People always get locked on the Mega Pixels. Mega Pixels does not mean better camera/pictures. I am a photographer by hobby, and any real photographer will also tell you this. Yes its true, the more mega pixels, the clearer the image usually is when you zoom in to details. (at least on a phone that is) on a real camera, a quality lens can also make or break.
My point here is, I have a 12MP Cannon DSLR that is quite a few years old now. But I have a lot of equipment (lenses, filters, etc), and even though its only 12MP it will still make any phone camera, and also most any point-and-shoot digital camera look bad. Case-in-point = Mega Pixels doesn't mean better pictures. It means bigger pictures and larger possible print sizes. Phone manufactures know that most people think "more MP=better", and they use that to market their device to attempt to sell more (Hence all the 16MP, 20mp and even 40mp phone cameras. They know people will literally say "ohhhh more mega pixels, that will take amazing photos". Lets face it, 99% of the users are NOT going to be making large 30" photo prints with their phone pictures. So IT DOESN'T MATTER.
I love this camera.
I just came from a 13 megapixel G2. It WISHES it could hold a candle to this camera. Seriously.
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I agree. I will take this 4mp over my old s4's 12 any day.
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Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Huawei Nexus 6P come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
One of the best mobile cameras. Color saturation, ease of focusing, and HDR is all excellent.
Surprisingly very good! The Moto X Pure was good, but this has crisper images. The OnePlus2 was OK, but the images were "smudgy" in the background.
The nexus 6p takes great pictures. I love it and the double power button push to open camera really does work and its quick.
Great so far, nice upgrade from the stock S5 camera. Low light images look better and apps like ProShot giving us manual controls can be quite handy.
The video is very crisp too!
To be honest it's not bad at all. It's up there for sure but for sure not no1. Happy with mine
I guess since I came back to the Nexus line from the S6, I have to say I'm disappointed. My expectations weren't too high though, so I'm not overly disappointed. I got used to, and liked the S6's 16X9 pics. I like how they filled up the S6's display. I'm trying to get used to the N6P's 4X3 pics. I can positively say that low-light pics are nowhere near as good as Google would have one believe they'd be. Period. As long as the lighting is good, the pics will be as well.
Of course, a lesser camera is still worth coming back to the Nexus. So overall I'm happy.
I'm blown away by the quality of the camera!
Coming from an HTC one m8, the photo quality is amazing on the 6P. I'm not used to the amazing quality but I love it!
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I would prefer a Lumia, but since there is a lack of apps on Windows Mobile... 6P.
Pictures seem very good., but the white balance when using the flash has a slight green tint compared to the 5X. I noticed this last night and was also mentioned in this article: http://pocketnow.com/2015/10/19/google-nexus-5x-vs-6p-video
"If you’re really looking for a consistent difference here, maybe try to spot the green tint in a few of the 6P’s photos, which for some reason becomes more pronounced when using the flash."
I've attached pictures for comparison. First image is with the 6P and the second is with the 5X. Hopefully this will get fixed in a future software update.
In my testing I am seeing better indoor photos than outdoors in even lighting. Outdoor photos tend to produce darker images against bright backgrounds (sky). If I move the focus to the subject, it compensates the brightness for the subject but then sky is blown out. This is without using HDR+. With HDR+, photos are evenly lit but still on the darker side. Images,. however, are very sharp and capture excellent details. I have a Note 4 too. I would say that Note 4 has a better camera than Nexus 6P. So in my opinion Nexus 6P is good but not excellent.
Coming from a Nexus 6 I'm loving the quality of this camera. However in HDR mode trying to take pictures of my children is pretty difficult. It's quite a bit slower in this mode
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I guess since I came back to the Nexus line from the S6, I have to say I'm disappointed. My expectations weren't too high though, so I'm not overly disappointed. I got used to, and liked the S6's 16X9 pics. I like how they filled up the S6's display. I'm trying to get used to the N6P's 4X3 pics. I can positively say that low-light pics are nowhere near as good as Google would have one believe they'd be. Period. As long as the lighting is good, the pics will be as well.
Of course, a lesser camera is still worth coming back to the Nexus. So overall I'm happy.
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I have to agree with you. I had the S6 and I loved the form factor and the camera. I hated the S6 because my wife would always use my phone for photos. She actually used more of my photo storage than I did. I thought the 6p camera was suppose to be on party with the S6 . I have to say some photos of the photos are good but with the S6 I never had a bad photo.
I just hated that the S6 updates would take forever. I know that with Verizon, Marshmallow will not be available until March/April 2016. I went with the 6p cause I could keep Verizon and will always get timely updates. Also I didn't want to have to worry about rooting a phone for it to be functional.
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wvcadle said:
I guess since I came back to the Nexus line from the S6, I have to say I'm disappointed. My expectations weren't too high though, so I'm not overly disappointed. I got used to, and liked the S6's 16X9 pics. I like how they filled up the S6's display. I'm trying to get used to the N6P's 4X3 pics. I can positively say that low-light pics are nowhere near as good as Google would have one believe they'd be. Period. As long as the lighting is good, the pics will be as well.
Of course, a lesser camera is still worth coming back to the Nexus. So overall I'm happy.
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#this
I'm gonna get the 6P tomorrow as I just got sick of the S6 and its security/bloat. I'll miss the camera for sure. Hopefully we'll get the 16:9 native through a future software update.
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I'm gonna get the 6P tomorrow as I just got sick of the S6 and its security/bloat. I'll miss the camera for sure. Hopefully we'll get the 16:9 native through a future software update.
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I'm would not say that I'm made with my decision to get the 6p. Just a little jealous because the S6 had a great camera and size. Everything else is wrong with the phone.
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By far the best camera, I thought the nexus 6 with HDR was good....this is just amazing on the 6P.
Here's a picture I took lastnight.
Dissmeister said:
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I'm gonna get the 6P tomorrow as I just got sick of the S6 and its security/bloat. I'll miss the camera for sure. Hopefully we'll get the 16:9 native through a future software update.
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Don't you know that you can switch to 16:9 in the camera setting ? (but of course , you will lose some megapixels)
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By far the best camera, I thought the nexus 6 with HDR was good....this is just amazing on the 6P.
Here's a picture I took lastnight.
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the camera is good,

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