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Seriously want to start Developing - Need some help.

It's not just another one of those 'LOLZ WANA DEVLOP PLZZ HELPPPZZ'.....
I'm very serious and need to know where to start off. I would maybe do it for a living when I'm older. It's something I've been wanting to do for a while. I used to mess around with some private servers coded in Java, but I didn't learn much.
I'm just wondering if there was a place where I could take classes online, or a good way to start off. I would be using my Evo for development aswell.
Any serious help would be appreciated.

nsteger123 said:
It's not just another one of those 'LOLZ WANA DEVLOP PLZZ HELPPPZZ'.....
I'm very serious and need to know where to start off. I would maybe do it for a living when I'm older. It's something I've been wanting to do for a while. I used to mess around with some private servers coded in Java, but I didn't learn much.
I'm just wondering if there was a place where I could take classes online, or a good way to start off. I would be using my Evo for development aswell.
Any serious help would be appreciated.
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The best place to learn and this may be a shock...for real. But i had begun to read an android development book and that didnt really do it for me but when i started to read Google Development pages it all made sense.
developer.android.com
Check it out.

1) read the entire dev guide
developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
2) install sdk and eclipse
3) build hello world and deploy to emulator, then to real device
You'll be on your way to devdom if you can make it through these 3 trivial steps

I bought three android books and they all seem to be very helpful in their own ways.
Hello, Android! 3rd edition - Great for beginners to the android platform
Professional Android 2 - Great and has a good amount of corners covered. From layouts to bluetooth and wifi. This one is by wrox and the code samples are available online without purchase verification.
Advanced Android - Good but not really worth is.

I've spend sometimes using eclipse but i can say it's quite buggy for now.
You may wanna stick to it but i suggest to test the last IntelliJ X Community
It's free and it get Android dev without plugins. I get this tips from the Twitter
of Romain Guy ...
For the dev, a little book from manning.com. They offers code is you register
you can get 50% of the price. Android in action.
Then for the advanved topics StackOverflow is now replacing the android
newbies developpers google group officially and there's a lot of advanced topics.
Give yourself some weeks to get some results, you've to learn the philosophy
of a new system.

[Q] Would like some help making a new app

Hello all,
I am not really any kind of coder or developer myself. However, I am looking for someone who is -- maybe someone new to the game, to help me with an app I'd like to have on my phone (HTC Thunderbolt).
It's basically a time-card app, pretty simple. There are numerous of these out there, but I'd like to have one specifically geared towards my industry. There are already a couple that exist for the iPhone, but none that I can find for Android. Below are examples of what I'm talking about:
http://www.crewtimecard.com/
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wrap-time-time-card-for-film/id335510869?mt=8
I'd like to make a better one, and one for Android. Really, it would be just for my personal use, but I'm sure many others would be interested as well. Perhaps if someone out there is a developer as a hobby, looking for more practice, etc., this might suit that person. I'd love to talk about collaborating on such a project.
Thanks!

Not to be rude, but I'd be surprised if anyone bites on your offer. Developing and testing apps properly takes a significant amount of time and dedication, and the examples you gave indicate that the app you're looking for could be quite complicated. Unless you come across a developer that happens to need the same thing, or that you are willing to pay, you may be SOL.
Of course, this sounds like the perfect opportunity to learn how to program! There are plenty of great websites out there that will walk you through the entire process form scratch. Good Luck!

jpepin said:
Of course, this sounds like the perfect opportunity to learn how to program! There are plenty of great websites out there that will walk you through the entire process form scratch. Good Luck!
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Is there a list of them somewhere?

Setati said:
Is there a list of them somewhere?
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Not really.
These 2 site can help you from scratch.
http://www.codeacademy.com
www.code.org
Google has their own site to teach people.
http://developer.android.com/training/basics/firstapp/index.html
Sounds like you might need to learn several languages to accomplish your goal. Not sure of one particular one to meet your goal.
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University

Hey everyone at XDA, this is probably in the wrong section and i apologise for that, i am currently at college doing a software development course, and i would like a few tips into what course to take when i go uni, i want to continue into developing for phones, apps and stuff, as that is currently whats going forward in the world and its not dying any time soon, so i think it is a great thing to go into, i just dont know which course i should take, any pointers?
Thank you very much in advance for any help given :good:

ZakBrindle said:
Hey everyone at XDA, this is probably in the wrong section and i apologise for that, i am currently at college doing a software development course, and i would like a few tips into what course to take when i go uni, i want to continue into developing for phones, apps and stuff, as that is currently whats going forward in the world and its not dying any time soon, so i think it is a great thing to go into, i just dont know which course i should take, any pointers?
Thank you very much in advance for any help given :good:
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Java. Everything is Java. LOL
Beyond that, basic programming courses, C language (and any variants)...
It'll really depend on the platform you wish to code for, Ubuntu Touch, I'm sure, is inherently different from Android, as Android is from Apple, etc...
There are guides on here (actually in this very forum) that give you links to free programming courses from MIT.
Anything else a quick google search should turn up for you:good:
Good luck, and happy Dev'ing :victory:

ZakBrindle said:
Hey everyone at XDA, this is probably in the wrong section and i apologise for that, i am currently at college doing a software development course, and i would like a few tips into what course to take when i go uni, i want to continue into developing for phones, apps and stuff, as that is currently whats going forward in the world and its not dying any time soon, so i think it is a great thing to go into, i just dont know which course i should take, any pointers?
Thank you very much in advance for any help given :good:
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What @Stryke_the_Orc said.. for android app development many people don't take a course as such just learn it in their free time as a branch away from their regular course. We have an app development forum as well where there are links to many guides as well as packages and libraries which you may find useful during the development of any app.. most of them are open source..
Also there are many Youtube video tutors which are available for app development and so is Google's own website @ developer.android..
So if you plan on taking on another course you can do this in your free time as well provided you know Java / C and its branches .. learning a new computer language is different skill set altogether.. which will require your full attention. So, depending upon your caliber and your own potential choose your course wisely.

Okay thank you very very much for both of your answers, they are both extremely helpful and i will take it all into consideration Thanks again

Whichever development path you choose, don’t forget good old fashioned Mathematics. In fact, stuffing as much of it into your head as it will stand, is not such a bad thing.
Sometimes it lets you see a much better/faster way of doing something.
Sign up for a course, or there are books from the library, even articles on Wikipedia.
Good Luck!

If you want to start developing for Android and you know Java, check out The New Boston's Android Development YouTube videos. They helped me a lot!

Am sure the best platform you can focus on now is Android
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How to start being an android / ios professional developer?

How to start the way of being a professional software developer and which is better and easier, ios or android?
Thanks in advance for the advice.
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seawhale said:
How to start the way of being a professional software developer and which is better and easier, ios or android?
Thanks in advance for the advice.
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Android is way better to start developing, because it has way more support than ios, and it's open source. As for how to start developing, pick an android device, go to its forum on xda and find tutorials and guides so you can start experimenting with your device. And of course, have fun modifying your phone.

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seawhale said:
How to start the way of being a professional software developer and which is better and easier, ios or android?
Thanks in advance for the advice.
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Hey First Of All I want to tell you that choose the one which interests you more !
There are many android developers (so many apps too).
But There is lack of sufficient IOS Apps so it would be great if you become expert at it.
Steps:
Join as an intern somewhere in your niche.
Don't leave until you have full understanding of development.
At First Neither of development lang is easy.But once you enter in it.You get more and more interested in it !
To Know More: MyAppGurus.com

At first you should choose the language you will prefer to study. Php, JS, or Python is the best options. But anyway it's hard to learn this thing by solo. So of course at the start you will need some expert's help. I have used it too. On my experience can recommend you to visit https://www.effectivesoft.com

In one word, start from the Android official developer website.

Rom dev

So I am making a rom. It's written in C++, CSS, and HTML. I need a bit of help, my CSS is rusty so if there's any experts out there I welcome your help. If there's any designers out there well versed in C++ you are more than welcome to join on up. I hope to have a working prototype in the next few days, let's make this the best rom for the OnePlus One there is!

have you tried turning it off and on again?

I am confused. What am I turning off and on again? I just want to make a good rom for this community. I am just asking for help. Please, no jokes. Serious replies only.

I think that there already enough roms from experienced devs... You want to make a rom but don't have the knowledge.

superiscch said:
I think that there already enough roms from experienced devs... You want to make a rom but don't have the knowledge.
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Why discourage someone like that? You don't know him or what he's capable of. What if someone had said that to the developer of your favourite ROM when he was starting out and he listened? XDA is a place to encourage development, and a place to encourage people who want to learn how to build ROMs. There can never be too many ROMs available, and there can never be too many people/devs working on them. This guy could be the next big thing in the ROM community and all you want to do is shut him down. Unless you're going to contribute in a positive way, maybe don't post.
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A lot of Google and this http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Development
All the best.

timmaaa said:
Why discourage someone like that? You don't know him or what he's capable of. What if someone had said that to the developer of your favourite ROM when he was starting out and he listened? XDA is a place to encourage development, and a place to encourage people who want to learn how to build ROMs. There can never be too many ROMs available, and there can never be too many people/devs working on them. This guy could be the next big thing in the ROM community and all you want to do is shut him down. Unless you're going to contribute in a positive way, maybe don't post.
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Maybe my words sound to hard on a screen but I don't want to discourage him ?
I'm just thinking that he is underestimating the job... He has 3 posts, needs people to do the majority of the job. Just my 2 cents.
But from now on only positive words, apparently negative is not allowed. Good to know...

Xavierdarkness said:
So I am making a rom. It's written in C++, CSS, and HTML. I need a bit of help, my CSS is rusty so if there's any experts out there I welcome your help. If there's any designers out there well versed in C++ you are more than welcome to join on up. I hope to have a working prototype in the next few days, let's make this the best rom for the OnePlus One there is!
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Umm... Building a ROM is kinda different. You don't exactly have to write all the code yourself (that would take a few lifetimes ). You have to use existing stuff, and patch it together the way you like. You can change the coding style and stuff to the way you want. The CM development page would be a great idea to start with getting familiar with all the stuff.

Xavierdarkness, your enthusiasm is awesome. I'm pretty sure your rusty CSS skills are okay though, but you should really pick up some ActionScript if you intend on making the best ROM.

Dude, write it in machine language....that would be the tits

Thank you all for your kind words of encouragement. It means a lot. I hope to draw on my existing knowledge of QBASIC, VB 6, and HTML to help me on this journey. I'll likely have something up in the next few days if anyone would like to check over my QBASIC to make sure I am getting the API right with android. Thanks again, I'll read all the links you guys have provided and will update this periodically.

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I think that there already enough roms from experienced devs... You want to make a rom but don't have the knowledge.
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there ya go, way to show some support. never enough roms, but always to many self important people

A new team inside XDA of developers will be a good news.
Perhaps learn must be encouraged and I hate people say that there are too many roms... This is not a marketplace but a place for developers.
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Guys on here who work for or run their own ROM teams, why not invite Xavierdarkness to your team and show him the ropes? Looks like his knowledge is there, just needs some nudging...

I'm curious how one would build a ROM from nothing more than C++, CSS, and HTML....if you don't have the Java how will it run android apps?
#stayparanoid

Pirateghost said:
I'm curious how one would build a ROM from nothing more than C++, CSS, and HTML....if you don't have the Java how will it run android apps?
#stayparanoid
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there are too many inefficient android apps. I think stopping the apps from running is a good thing. more speed! more battery!

cybojenix said:
there are too many inefficient android apps. I think stopping the apps from running is a good thing. more speed! more battery!
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You do realise that your settings menu is an app, your dialer is an app, basically, almost every functionality of your phone is through an app :/

Quasar said:
You do realise that your settings menu is an app, your dialer is an app, basically, almost every functionality of your phone is through an app :/
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of course I know this.
do you realise a dialer, or settings, or anything functional on a device doesn't have to be written in java? *points at TWRP* at the rate they are going, we'll have recoveries that can send/receive texts, and make calls

cybojenix said:
of course I know this.
do you realise a dialer, or settings, or anything functional on a device doesn't have to be written in java? *points at TWRP* at the rate they are going, we'll have recoveries that can send/receive texts, and make calls
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Whoops. Sorry. Sarcasm doesn't work well online
Oh damn! The mobile app doesn't even make RDs/FSM/whatever recognisable. Sorry.

Quasar said:
Whoops. Sorry. Sarcasm doesn't work well online
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try the ^sarcasm^ tags
I know this thread is one massive troll though.... It'd be awesome to actually not use java for Android, at least on the core parts. Oh look, GoLang