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Anyone experience this?
I'm playing pocket empires while the phone is plugged in and my battery is still discharging.
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Are you plugged into USB on your computer or AC?
If you are using more power than what is going in, of course this will happen!
The AC adapter provides the most charge.
Duh you are using the device so of course it is going to discharge..........
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andrewNY said:
Are you plugged into USB on your computer or AC?
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It is in the AC wall outlet
hdxnickka said:
It is in the AC wall outlet
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Before you launch the game, does the little battery icon in the taskbar show charging? Can you see the taskbar while running this game?
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Before you launch the game, does the little battery icon in the taskbar show charging? Can you see the taskbar while running this game?
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I can't see the notification bar while playing the game but I made sure that it was charging by turning off the screen and turning it back onto the lock screen which shows that it is charging.
Mine never discharges when playing Pocket Legends but it charges very slowly when using the stock charger which is normal. Now, when I am at work or something I have a AC charger I use that came with my Logitech Wireless Mouse that is obviously more powerful than the stock charger. It can charge my battery from 15% to 100% in about 30 minutes. My advice to you would be to buy a charger with a higher rating.
Are you using the charger that came with the phone or a third-party charger? If using the charger LG provided nothing you do on that phone should drain that battery while plugged in because it outputs 1000mA of power.
If you are using the LG charger you may have a faulty charger or a faulty battery.
Could you install something like Battery Monitor Widget and check the current drain (mA) while you are playing the game?
(It is made by "3C06" and the free one is fine because I think the only difference in the paid one is no ads.)
EDIT: Also, the most I have managed to pull with my G2x is 756mA, but if you have the screen at a high brightness and are using the speaker, and if the game is using 100% of your CPU, it would probably be possible to use more than 1000mA.
EDIT2: Also, the Service Manual says "maximum charging current is set around 945mA."
So I think any usage above that number will drain your battery even when plugged in. But I am not certain.
I recently bought a hdmi cord and downloaded netflix to my phone. While the phone is plugged into wall my phone goes dead while watching netflix with hdmi being used. does the hdmi take more power then phone takes in or what. Someone please help out because this sucks. Im running 1.5 gummy gb.
piperat said:
I recently bought a hdmi cord and downloaded netflix to my phone. While the phone is plugged into wall my phone goes dead while watching netflix with hdmi being used. does the hdmi take more power then phone takes in or what. Someone please help out because this sucks. Im running 1.5 gummy gb.
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Yes you are correct. It also drains more than charging when you use the Mobile Hotspot.
Were you on 4G or WiFi?
I had the same problem in my car streaming bluetooth audio. I got a better charger and it wasn't as bad.
Well that sucks. I wish sammy would have thought that out. Thanks for the help.
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Does the new GB leak charge at a higher mah?
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No it doesnt i tried it on gb leak when i noticed the issue. Now im on froyo and will try again
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It's all about the charger. Ever notice how the low battery warning says to stop using it or it will charge inefficiently? A normal computer USB port puts out 500 milliamps, a Droid X charger puts out 850, and the Charge charger does 1 amp. Basically, the higher the charger amperage, the faster the charge. The Charge charger might not be able to meet the demands of the device while it's under heavy use, which is why I use my Galaxy Tab charger (2A). It works perfectly.
EDIT: tl;dr the ROM does not matter for charging, it's all about the hardware. Use a higher amp charger.
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Thanks for advice. That is a simple solution
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I feel like there's something weird going on with me. Using mobile hotspot seems to drain less energy than charging for me with the stock charger, except there's an issue if I let it charge up to 100% while using mobile hotspot. If I let this happen, it seems to stop charging and tricks the battery into thinking that it's still at 100% when it's in fact draining. If I unplug it after some time (when it still think it's at 100%) I'll see the actual battery life percentage as if it stopped charging when it reached 100%.
My temporary solution to this is to unplug when I get to 100% and plug it back in when my battery is low and it'll eventually reach 100% again then repeat (all while mobile hotspot is active). Of course this is not an ideal solution... I sometimes wonder if it has anything to do with the full battery notification/popup because ever since I switched to the Gingerbread leak I haven't been able to disable that. I think if I use a ROM with it already disabled, I can leave my phone plugged in and mobile hotspot won't ever drain to empty. Not sure if I have tested this thoroughly enough though.
I use a 1A charger, but the phone only charges around 250mAh. The phone purposely charges at a lower rate. This has been discussed many times. The software is a deciding factor too.
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H3Dude said:
I use a 1A charger, but the phone only charges around 250mAh. The phone purposely charges at a lower rate. This has been discussed many times. The software is a deciding factor too.
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Same thing happens to me. I have 1A and higher chargers, but because the phone doesn't recognize it, it refuses to charge at the higher rate.
quarky42 said:
Same thing happens to me. I have 1A and higher chargers, but because the phone doesn't recognize it, it refuses to charge at the higher rate.
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It is a software limitation. I had the original incredible for a while, one of the big deals with it was charging it in the car while using GPS.
One update they turned on slow charging, but then devices were dieing as they were being charged, so they pushed another update out to reverse it so they would receive a faster charge.
So you are limited by the hardware and what it can handle, as well as the software and how its programmed to handle it...
If its software maybe the devs can adjust this in their roms
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If its software maybe the devs can adjust this in their roms
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Id imagine its kernel related?
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quarky42 said:
Same thing happens to me. I have 1A and higher chargers, but because the phone doesn't recognize it, it refuses to charge at the higher rate.
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Odd...my Gtab charger works fine (don't know the input amperage, but it's rated at 2A). Maybe my ROM/kernel, or just a Samsung thing?
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I usually use the charger from my old fascinate and my phone charges normally
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My friend threw her phone on charge for the whole night and woke up this morning to find her battery level low. This isn't the first time it happened either. What could cause this?
P.S. the screenshot was taken right after the phone was pulled off the charger
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Try a different charger? Also, if the phone was charged by USB, use the wall charger instead. Some USB ports may cut power when the computer is asleep, etc. For instance, I usually connect my phone to my PC using the USB ports on my monitor (just because they are conveniently located). Those ports get shutdown when the computer goes to sleep, which I always forget.
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Try a different charger? Also, if the phone was charged by USB, use the wall charger instead. Some USB ports may cut power when the computer is asleep, etc. For instance, I usually connect my phone to my PC using the USB ports on my monitor (just because they are conveniently located). Those ports get shutdown when the computer goes to sleep, which I always forget.
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Well she plugs into the wall, never the computer. And the charger she uses is the charger that came w/ the phone. If its the charger that could possibly be the issue then I'll tell her to get it swapped out at an at&t store but I really don't think that's the issue honestly
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Chargers can definitely just crap out, even if new. MicroUSB chargers are pretty common, and I've used ones for other devices (like my Motorola Bluetooth headset) on my One X just fine. If you have another MicroUSB charger laying around, its worth checking (just to eliminate the charger as the cause) rather than having to run to the store.
Otherwise, its possible there is something wrong with the microUSB jack on the phone itself, or some other hardware or software problem with the phone. If the charger is not the problem, backup personal data and factory reset the phone. If the problem still occurs, I'd recommend getting a warranty replacement.
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Chargers can definitely just crap out, even if new. MicroUSB chargers are pretty common, and I've used ones for other devices (like my Motorola Bluetooth headset) on my One X just fine. If you have another MicroUSB charger laying around, its worth checking (just to eliminate the charger as the cause) rather than having to run to the store.
Otherwise, its possible there is something wrong with the microUSB jack on the phone itself, or some other hardware or software problem with the phone. If the charger is not the problem, backup personal data and factory reset the phone. If the problem still occurs, I'd recommend getting a warranty replacement.
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I appreciate it man, will do
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Can you confirm that there was a "lightning bolt" in the battery icon in the status bar? If it's charging, there should be a lightning bolt in it. Check when you plug in the charger and just before unplugging it. If the lighting bolt is missing then most likely there is no current going into the device to charge the battery. It could also be a bad battery if the charger is working fine.
DroiDAddicT14 said:
My friend threw her phone on charge for the whole night and woke up this morning to find her battery level low. This isn't the first time it happened either. What could cause this?
P.S. the screenshot was taken right after the phone was pulled off the charger
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Are you absolutely sure the power outlet was switched on? May seem like a silly question but I've done it before.
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Can you confirm that there was a "lightning bolt" in the battery icon in the status bar? If it's charging, there should be a lightning bolt in it. Check when you plug in the charger and just before unplugging it. If the lighting bolt is missing then most likely there is no current going into the device to charge the battery. It could also be a bad battery if the charger is working fine.
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Yes there was definitely a lightning bolt when it was on. And is it possible to wipe the battery stats even if the phones not rooted?
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timmaaa said:
Are you absolutely sure the power outlet was switched on? May seem like a silly question but I've done it before.
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The outlet isn't switch operated lol. It has a constant 120V
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Ive seen threads for almost all the wireless chargers except this one, so ive decided to create one to unite all the information.
Ive just ordered it on amazon for 50€.
What is your experience with it guys? Cant wait to recieve it.
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I have one here and it works fine, charges my phone with no problem and temperatures never go above 36c. The only two issues I have is firstly the Nexus 4 slides around on this thing like there is a layer of Teflon between the phone and charger. I heartily recommend LEAVING the protective film that the Maxell comes with ON the charger that stops the phone slipping.
Secondly forget about using daydream with the charger, in my experience daydream uses up too much power to be useful with wireless charging. The battery charges at snail pace and the phone heats up to over 45c with daydream enabled. I like the Maxell and I like wireless charging my first choice would be the Nexus Orb if it was available, but the Maxell does a good a job as any.
Thanks for the advice. Will keep maxell plastic on. Wish they could deliver it faster. Will take a month
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Just got one of these from eBay for £42. Seems to charge fine with the N4 the S line TPC case on.
My only, albeit minor, issue with it is the bright blue LED which illuminates while charging. This is easily resolved by making sure the N4 covers it or stick a bit of dark tape on top.
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I just picked a Maxell Air Voltage charger up from Ebay here in the UK, it is a very nice bit of kit I must say and works great, the only downside is that the charging range isnt too good, I was expecting at least 6mm so that I could charge it whilst it was in my flip case, it wont charge through the flip case and it wont charge through any case that is metal or has a foil liner this of course is fairly obvious.
i am sure some of the thinner plastic half cases and gel cases it will be fine, I think that the Nillkin Fashion Shape Flip Leather Case is also OK with it so I will pick one of those up with it.
I tested the effective range with UK 2 x 1p pieces stacked on top of each other which is 3.0 mm thick in total, so if your case it over 3mm thick then it wont work without taking the phone out of the case, something to think about if you are going to get this charger.
I wouldnt hang on to get the orb charger, thats a long way off IMHO, the Maxell air voltage is a great unit, is cheap and will work with other QI devices, well worth getting it.
Sounds good so far. I've ordered mine off Amazon after hesitating because of the price.. Taking ages to arrive during this holiday season. Looking forward to it.
Had mine for around 2 weeks now, works perfectly with my tpu case on.
Did originally have daydream turned on and it was a little slow but now its off it charges great.
Well worth the money. If they were a little cheaper i'd buy another!
hi,
does it use 110 or 220 voltage?
I also have the Maxell charger of Ebay and it charges through the Nillkin hard case with no issues at all which was a deal breaker for me if it couldn't.
I agree with the comment to leave Daydream off as it seems to charge the phone better..
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Just got mine. It got up to 98%, does yours get to 100%?
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Mine gets up to 100% although not the first time that I charged it for some reason...
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ianm said:
Just got one of these from eBay for £42. Seems to charge fine with the N4 the S line TPC case on.
My only, albeit minor, issue with it is the bright blue LED which illuminates while charging. This is easily resolved by making sure the N4 covers it or stick a bit of dark tape on top.
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Cheers mate, I was a bit worried about charging through my S-Line case. I've just ordered one from play. I have a desktop stand, but sometimes the connection doesn't fit in properly.
Got my nillkin case for my n4 which is superb and can confirm the Maxwell does charge through it as the other poster mentioned so it isn't a one off, if the case was a little thicker it won't do it though so be warned
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Just got mine. It got up to 98%, does yours get to 100%?
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Mine is getting stuck at 89%. Then it goes in to a state of limbo where it disconnects, uses up a bit of charge, reconnects, gets back to 89% disconnects, etc etc.
Anyone else? Defective unit?
Also, has anyone else suffered severe battery life deterioration after using this? It may well just be coincidence but about 3 days after first using it my battery life has fallen off a cliff. The Android Kernal OS is suddenly showing up at over 30% usage on the stock battery data page, whereas before it was under 10%.
Working fine with mine no problems. But I find when it charges to 100% it waits until it drops to 95% before recharging again. This is fine as I understand that qi charging doesn't allow for trickle charging, so it's either full power or no power. I wouldn't say it degrades the battery life but rather it screws up the battery stats. To fix this I just plug the usb charger once a week or so.
I think the capacity reading gets messed a bit as due to the on/off charging after reaching full charge, since unlike trickle charging where the battery's voltage is kept constant, the voltage is always raising or falling. Depending on when you take your phone away with you in relation to its current charge state you might get a slightly lower capacity for that particular charge.
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Makaijin said:
Working fine with mine no problems. But I find when it charges to 100% it waits until it drops to 95% before recharging again. This is fine as I understand that qi charging doesn't allow for trickle charging, so it's either full power or no power. I wouldn't say it degrades the battery life but rather it screws up the battery stats. To fix this I just plug the usb charger once a week or so.
I think the capacity reading gets messed a bit as due to the on/off charging after reaching full charge, since unlike trickle charging where the battery's voltage is kept constant, the voltage is always raising or falling. Depending on when you take your phone away with you in relation to its current charge state you might get a slightly lower capacity for that particular charge.
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What im going to do to solve this is buy a electricity temporizator and set it to 3 h so it stops once those hours are done. I always charge mobile at the same hour.
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Makaijin said:
Working fine with mine no problems. But I find when it charges to 100% it waits until it drops to 95% before recharging again. This is fine as I understand that qi charging doesn't allow for trickle charging, so it's either full power or no power. I wouldn't say it degrades the battery life but rather it screws up the battery stats. To fix this I just plug the usb charger once a week or so.
I think the capacity reading gets messed a bit as due to the on/off charging after reaching full charge, since unlike trickle charging where the battery's voltage is kept constant, the voltage is always raising or falling. Depending on when you take your phone away with you in relation to its current charge state you might get a slightly lower capacity for that particular charge.
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Trickle charging is horrible for lithium ion/poly batteries. Unplug from AC charger as soon as you can. LiOn batteries don't like to be at full peak 4.2v for long. It's actually better that many of these Qi chargers are only charging to 89 or 95% of capacity by the wireless charges. It's better for the long life of the battery. Charge them often too. Don't let it go down to 10% or 5%. Put them on the charger when your phone is down to 50% and take them off the charger when they get to 90%. It's easy to do with a wireless charger.
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Trickle charging is horrible for lithium ion/poly batteries. Unplug from AC charger as soon as you can. LiOn batteries don't like to be at full peak 4.2v for long. It's actually better that many of these Qi chargers are only charging to 89 or 95% of capacity by the wireless charges. It's better for the long life of the battery. Charge them often too. Don't let it go down to 10% or 5%. Put them on the charger when your phone is down to 50% and take them off the charger when they get to 90%. It's easy to do with a wireless charger.
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Source.
Cuz all that contradicts lithium theory.
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Source.
Cuz all that contradicts lithium theory.
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Batteryuniversity.com
Lakino said:
Trickle charging is horrible for lithium ion/poly batteries. Unplug from AC charger as soon as you can. LiOn batteries don't like to be at full peak 4.2v for long. It's actually better that many of these Qi chargers are only charging to 89 or 95% of capacity by the wireless charges. It's better for the long life of the battery. Charge them often too. Don't let it go down to 10% or 5%. Put them on the charger when your phone is down to 50% and take them off the charger when they get to 90%. It's easy to do with a wireless charger.
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I'm actually aware that constant trickle charging at full charge isn't ideal for long term health of the battery. Which is why I mentioned I only plug the wired usb charger once a week. I only plug it in for about 30 mins so the voltage stabilises as to help the phone more accurately display its charge % state better. Obviously it's all subjective as I've yet to actually perform any tests to see if it's ture or not.
On the subject of long term battery health, trickle charging on wired may not be ideal, but nor is wireless charging due to heat it produces. During wireless charging, according to my battery stats widget the phone reaches 39°C, while wired usb it never goes above 22°C (room temp. basically). The good thing about wireless charging is the heat drops back down when the battery is full and the qi charger is no longer sending any current. But when the charge drops back down to 95 % it restarts charging again, and the heat returns.
So, which is more harmful to the battery, heat or constant trickle charging? In either cases it's still a good practice to remove the phone from the charger (both wired or wireless) once it's reached full charge.
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Out of the blue I noticed my S3 was charging very slowly, it even was losing a charge while it was plugged in while I was using it. I figure it had something to do with my custom ROM so I reflash, still same outcome. The battery was still holding a good charge, so I figured it was something else. I then went out and bought a new charger, which came with a micro usb cord to see if that helped. Plugged in the new charger while using my old micro usb cord, still same outcome. Then used the new micro usb cord and old charger, charging went back to normal, problem solved! I would of never thought that the cord would malfunction from day to day use after such a short lifespan. Moral of the story, check your cords if you experience the same problem, it could save you some time and money!
I bought some cheap ones off Amazon. They won't charge the s3 but will my touchpad. But my s3 charger won't charge my touchpad. Stuff is weird at times.
Glad it was an easy fix.
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Must have been charging in USB mode.
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I believe it, using my old galaxy nexus cord for my s3 charges extremely slow (like 200 mAh) for some reason. I switched to a different cord and now it's all good, I have no clue why but that's how it is.
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That's weird mine started doing the same thing just in the past few days. I have to unplug and plug it back in multiple times before it goes into AC mode
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I really think that those cheap cables don't charge nearly as fast. Especially the Stock Sammy ones. I use the thicker LG cables and they seem to charge so much fast and transfer files faster..
I just went through the same thing. The phone was charging for twelve hours and only gained 50 percent. Took forever to figure out it was the cord.
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I think charging AC is not fast charge.
You should to charge USB cable.
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That's weird mine started doing the same thing just in the past few days. I have to unplug and plug it back in multiple times before it goes into AC mode
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That's what my phone was doing, I'd unplug then plug it back in and would go from USB to AC, but it still charged slow. That cable, no matter what it said, would still charge slow as balls.
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I had heard of "Buy Cheap, Buy Twice", but now we've got "Buy Cheap, Charge Twice"
A lot of times it's the DC power brick that makes the difference. Not all of them have the same power output. Rarely, if ever, is it the actual cord itself. USB cables use pretty thin gauge wire already and the only way you're going to get a difference from one cable to another would be if it was REALLY cheap and using an ultra-thin wire or if it was a REALLY long cable (increases in cable length equate to increased resistance to electrical transmission...)
All USB cables are 5 volts. However, there can be significant differences in the milliamp output for each DC adapter. Aside from being a computer geek and gamer who builds custom PC's, I happen to be a hotel General Manager. I just checked our catch-all box of phone chargers and found that while every charger has an output of 5v, the amperage put out varied from 350 mA to 1000 mA from one charger to the next.
This variance in output is why some chargers take so long as compared to others. I don't know what the actual Samsung charger output is, since my charger is at home, but my guess is it's between 800 and 1000 mA.
I use the stock BB charger to charge both my 9900 and GS3, the BB charges pretty normal but lately I've been having a problem with the charging time on my S3, I have to charge it everyday now, my usage isn't that heavy, it lasts me a day and a half normally. Going to start using the stock charger to see if there is a difference.
I'm using the Samsung stock charger after not having used it for a month and noticing that my battery levels have deteriorated after using my BB stock charger. The battery seems to be discharging while on the charger! I'm in for a world of pain, going to monitor it for a while. I could be stressing over nothing.