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I left sprint recently sold my phone with it rooted and and a patched ota rom on it. The guy went to get it activated and they couldn't get it done, said it was freezing up, sprint rep knew it was rooted, and said it needs to be back to stock unrooted???? Is this true? Anybody know?
Any time you take your phone to sprint ALWAYS UNROOT. They can tag the account. You should of unrooted before selling the phone
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saw429 said:
I left sprint recently sold my phone with it rooted and and a patched ota rom on it. The guy went to get it activated and they couldn't get it done, said it was freezing up, sprint rep knew it was rooted, and said it needs to be back to stock unrooted???? Is this true? Anybody know?
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They were probably trying to get into the Activation Menu in ESPT. If they could not get it to work, that would be a clue that the phone was Rooted. But as mentioned in the post above. As a Rule of Thumb, never sell a phone Rooted. Also never take a phone into a Sprint store for any type of Tech work if it's Rooted. They can and most times do Flag the account. Not what you want. After that any phone issues you run into they may try to claim it's because your device is rooted.
Thanks I put it back to stock.
I didn't realize a rooted phone would not allow you to get into the "Activation Menu in ESPT"
You can get more money some times for rooted phones, but i guess not with Sprint. My bro sold a SGSII rooted for T-mobile for big bucks, but i guess with sim cards, it makes it easy.
Is the "Rule of Thumb" to return phones back to stock before selling for Sprint and Verizon phones only?
I'm sorry, I didn't properly explain. Rooting doesn't affect if you can get into ESPT or not. Rooted phones can still use ESPT without issue. But it does depend on the Rom on the phone. But yes as a " Rule of Thumb " , if the device is going to be Sold or taken in for service. No matter who the person, or carrier is it's always better if it's Unrooted.
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saw429 said:
Thanks I put it back to stock.
I didn't realize a rooted phone would not allow you to get into the "Activation Menu in ESPT"
You can get more money some times for rooted phones, but i guess not with Sprint. My bro sold a SGSII rooted for T-mobile for big bucks, but i guess with sim cards, it makes it easy.
Is the "Rule of Thumb" to return phones back to stock before selling for Sprint and Verizon phones only?
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Yup when i sold my epic a few months back that was a huge issue trying to get it activiated if rooted, i always take it to a third part store like spring wireless it's possible to activate mine did eventually but took like a hour in half.. but verizon all you do is put a sim in activate and done...
Bfitz26 said:
Yup when i sold my epic a few months back that was a huge issue trying to get it activiated if rooted, i always take it to a third part store like spring wireless it's possible to activate mine did eventually but took like a hour in half.. but verizon all you do is put a sim in activate and done...
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Not to be rude but Verizon uses CDMA (like Sprint excluding Nextel products that use iDEN). Verizon phones domestically do not use sim cards. The only CDMA phones that use sim cards are dual mode international phones (the sim card is only used for GSM networks abroad). AT&T and T-mobile use sim cards domestically (GSM) so maybe one of those?
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Not to be rude but Verizon uses CDMA (like Sprint excluding Nextel products that use iDEN). Verizon phones domestically do not use sim cards. The only CDMA phones that use sim cards are dual mode international phones (the sim card is only used for GSM networks abroad). AT&T and T-mobile use sim cards domestically (GSM) so maybe one of those?
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Thats not entirely true. LTE uses sim cards. Any Verizon phones with 4G will have a sim card.
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Thats not entirely true. LTE uses sim cards. Any Verizon phones with 4G will have a sim card.
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A sim card that is ONLY used to connect to 4G, not 3G (CDMA)...
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drob311 said:
A sim card that is ONLY used to connect to 4G, not 3G (CDMA)...
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Actually, from what I have read on the internet, Verizon LTE SIM cards are tied to activation of 3G CDMA on LTE equipped phones. I don't know how they did it, though. Also, I heard that Verizon LTE devices have the PRL loaded on the SIM card making it nearly impossible to flash a different PRL onto the phone. I even heard that Sprint is doing that with their LTE phones.
I'm thinking about buying a used Verizon Samsung S3 from a friend of mine.
Since my AT&T contact doesn't run out for a few months... I'd like to buy his Verizon S3 today... and just use it as a wi-fi only device for the next few months. (No Verizon contract, No SIM, No cell calls, etc.)
Possible? Without rooting? Would I need to buy a blank Verizon SIM? Where?
Thanks.
You probably won't need a blank SIM; just pull the LTE SIM from the phone. CDMA connectivity, on the other hand, is built into the phone. You'll probably have to get Verizon to deactivate the device. Interestingly enough, my old cellphone (from my previous 2--year contract with Verizon) gets service when I boot it up, so I don't think it's as simple as activating a new phone on the line will deactivate the old one.
Wi-fi Only, Wi-fi Only. Wi-fi Only. Wi-fi Only.
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You probably won't need a blank SIM; just pull the LTE SIM from the phone.
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And what do I do when it demands I put the SIM back before I can do anything?
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You'll probably have to get Verizon to deactivate the device.
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Huh? I have to call them and say "I'm *NOT* a Verizon user. Please deactivate my phone (that I never activated in the 1st place.)
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Interestingly enough, my old cellphone (from my previous 2--year contract with Verizon) gets service when I boot it up
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Huh? You get free Verizon? Or are you still paying for it all these years?
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so I don't think it's as simple as activating a new phone on the line will deactivate the old one.
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I do *NOT* want to activate my new phone. I do *NOT* want any Verizon coverage. (I'm trying to get *WI FI* only.)
should work fine
just deactivate the phone and take the sim card out
the phone will report no sim card and will only allow 911 calls
other then that you can use it as a wifi device just fine
^^^Yup. When I upgraded my phone, I can use my old phones on WiFi with no issues. I do it all the time. I even flash ROMs on them still, lol.
You can do it just fine. Turn it on, connect WiFi and have at it. Doesn't matter youre not a customer or that the phone was never activated. You dont need to contact Verizon for ANY of this at all, either.
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Hot-Donna said:
I'm thinking about buying a used Verizon Samsung S3 from a friend of mine.
Since my AT&T contact doesn't run out for a few months... I'd like to buy his Verizon S3 today... and just use it as a wi-fi only device for the next few months. (No Verizon contract, No SIM, No cell calls, etc.)
Possible? Without rooting? Would I need to buy a blank Verizon SIM? Where?
Thanks.
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That's no problem at all. You don't need to root the phone or buy a blank Verizon SIM. Just start up the phone, connect to your Wi-Fi and ta da. You should be ready to go :]
IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO LTE ON AN AT&T PHONE, YOU DONT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING!!!!!!!!
IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A SIM CARD THAT WILL FIT IN THE N5, YOUR SIM IS LTE CAPABLE AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET THE RIGHT DATA PROVISION. YOU DO NOT NEED TO GET A NEW SIM!!!!!!!
This happened when the N4 came out and I came to the rescue far too many times to count...and I've already started to read threads about it so here we go!
You just bought an N5 and are either worried about getting LTE or can't get LTE connectivity on your N5. It's a really big issue with a really simple solution. You need to make sure of a few things.
1. You have a SIM that can receive LTE frequency
2. Your data plan is a LTE provisioned plan
3. Your APNs include an LTE ANP
1 & 2 can be solved at the same time and 3 should solve itself in most cases.
Here's the big issue: AT&T doesn't have a data provision for the N5 (or the N4). Your customer service rep will take the IMEI number from your phone when you ask for a new SIM and it will come back with their basic GSM plan by default. This caused awful data speeds on the N4 and will disallow LTE on the N5 so you need to inform them that this will happen before they go through the process. A nice rep will understand. An unknowledgeable rep will claim there is nothing they can do. Ask to speak to the manager. If none of them can help, take your new LTE capable SIM and walk away.
Now after you leave the store call up customer service and tell them you just got a new *insert LTE capable AT&T device here* and you can't find the IMEI number. Tell them you tried to go into the store and they were unhelpful so you're calling. The person will immediately become helpful and generate an IMEI number. They will provision your data using said serial number and you'll be good to go.
BEFORE inserting your SIM, start up your N5. Go through the setup process that you have to go through and then turn it back off. Plug in your SIM and reboot.
Go to Settings > Wireless & Networks > more > Mobile Networks > Access point Names. In there you should see an AT&T LTE APN and it should be already selected. If not, select it. This should be all you need to do. It really is that simple.
NOTES:
- All SIMs that fit in the N4 and N5 are LTE capable
- Here is what your AT&T APN should look like
- If you have any issues, post and I'll do my best to help
As always, Thanks are appreciated.
So even if the rep in store "can't help" I'll still walk out with the SIM card I need? Also, If I don't have my N5/IMEI in hand when I go in can I still setup a plan and get a SIM card? Thanks for the post!
EDIT: Going in with no phone I don't know rather to tell them I have a N5 coming or try to find a friends that will give me their IMEI that I can give them...
You'll get a SIM card no matter what because those are free...it just won't be provisioned properly unless you get a knowledgeable rep.
Having an IMEI in hand makes life easier; having your N5 will make it way easier. The SIM needs to be activated in the store and they will need an IMEI to activate. Just wait till you get your N5 to go through all this. It won't do anything to help you until you get it.
The IMEI will be on the SIM tray!
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You'll get a SIM card no matter what because those are free...it just won't be provisioned properly unless you get a knowledgeable rep.
Having an IMEI in hand makes life easier; having your N5 will make it way easier. The SIM needs to be activated in the store and they will need an IMEI to activate. Just wait till you get your N5 to go through all this. It won't do anything to help you until you get it.
The IMEI will be on the SIM tray!
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Ok, I will wait until Wednesday to go in then...one last thing, if it gets to the point I have to call ATT, when I say I can't find the IMEI won't they just tell me to flip the phone over or look in the settings, etc.. instead of generating one?
No.
They will ask you if there is a barcode / serial thing on the back of your device. You say no. Boom, done.
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So just going in and asking to exchange your sim for a micro sim isn't enough?
I have a note 3 right now with 4g. I was going to use the same Sim card in the note and put in the N5. Should it work out of the box or do I still have to take it in the store? How will I know that I have a an imei card?
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So just going in and asking to exchange your sim for a micro sim isn't enough?
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No. The SIM must be activated and an IMEI is required to activate.
marcusva79 said:
I have a note 3 right now with 4g. I was going to use the same Sim card in the note and put in the N5. Should it work out of the box or do I still have to take it in the store? How will I know that I have a an imei card?
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I'll make this even easier!
Do you have a SIM that will fit in the N5? If not, follow my steps. If so, skip ahead to calling AT&T customer support because ALL MICRO SIMS ARE LTE CAPABLE.
What do you mean by an IMEI card? All phones come with an IMEI.
great. AT&T why are you so terrible.
Im sim is in the note 3 rught now. Sending it back to att. Getting the n5 tomorrow. New to the Sim card thing. Coming from sprint. Just had to ask.
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Hey guys I'm going to switching to straight talk att am I ordered the lte micro sim from them and plan to activate tomorrow should I expect to jump through hoops to get lte or expect the same issues as att users...not sure this is my first try at prepaid
same things will happen. You'll need to get an LTE data provision but will be unable to using your N5 IMEI
marcusva79 said:
I have a note 3 right now with 4g. I was going to use the same Sim card in the note and put in the N5. Should it work out of the box or do I still have to take it in the store? How will I know that I have a an imei card?
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If you have 4g on your note 3 it means you already have a LTE data plan. All you need to do is take the sim out of your note 3 and pop it into your n5, no need to call anyone or make an unnecessary trip to the store.
4g =/= LTE in AT&Ts case. 4g can mean HSPA+ 4g!
If you have access to LTE currently YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO ANYTHING.
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Now after you leave the store call up customer service and tell them you just got a new *insert LTE capable AT&T device here* and you can't find the IMEI number.
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If you have a device and you can't find the IMEI, just go to the settings and about device to view it.. Wouldn't they ask you to do that?
Look, I know you want to dumb down stuff and give advise but some of it is just incorrect, not dumbed down.
Dial *#06# on any Android smartphone and it'll display the IMEI.
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Here's the big issue: AT&T doesn't have a data provision for the N5 (or the N4). Your customer service rep will take the IMEI number from your phone when you ask for a new SIM and it will come back with their basic GSM plan by default. This caused awful data speeds on the N4 and will disallow LTE on the N5 so you need to inform them that this will happen before they go through the process. A nice rep will understand. An unknowledgeable rep will claim there is nothing they can do. Ask to speak to the manager. If none of them can help, take your new LTE capable SIM and walk away.
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It's possible that the reps @ the AT&T Stores in different areas aren't properly keying the IMEI in properly. If at all possible have them SCAN the IMEI barcode on the back of the phone.
I went down to the AT&T store here locally (Bay Area, CA) and the only problem I had in the process was a 30 minute wait to see one of the reps.
I was previously on an unlimited data plan that I've had setup since I got my original iPhone 3G - 5 years ago. NOT an LTE plan by any stretch.
He went in the back and grabbed the sim and started the process of adding it to the account.
He scanned the sim and then scanned my phone -- It CORRECTLY recognized the device as a D820 **AND** automatically updated my data plan to the LTE Unlimited.
The only thing the rep had to do was press confirm a number of times. Not once did he have to manually adjust anything.
We waited about 5 minutes for the sim to activate, slipped it into my N5 and powered it up - Instant LTE service.
So AT&T *does* have the IMEI Registered for the N5 with a corresponding LTE Plan. If someone is trying to key it in and getting an error.. they're likely not typing something correctly.
I'm already using a note 3 on at&t with LTE already enabled on my plan. Also,my note 3 already uses a micro-SIM. I should be good to just swap my SIM into the n5 right? I have written down the default AT&T APN just in case it gets list on the n5.
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misfit0r said:
It's possible that the reps @ the AT&T Stores in different areas aren't properly keying the IMEI in properly. If at all possible have them SCAN the IMEI barcode on the back of the phone.
I went down to the AT&T store here locally (Bay Area, CA) and the only problem I had in the process was a 30 minute wait to see one of the reps.
I was previously on an unlimited data plan that I've had setup since I got my original iPhone 3G - 5 years ago. NOT an LTE plan by any stretch.
He went in the back and grabbed the sim and started the process of adding it to the account.
He scanned the sim and then scanned my phone -- It CORRECTLY recognized the device as a D820 **AND** automatically updated my data plan to the LTE Unlimited.
The only thing the rep had to do was press confirm a number of times. Not once did he have to manually adjust anything.
We waited about 5 minutes for the sim to activate, slipped it into my N5 and powered it up - Instant LTE service.
So AT&T *does* have the IMEI Registered for the N5 with a corresponding LTE Plan. If someone is trying to key it in and getting an error.. they're likely not typing something correctly.
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This is good to know, I am going to do this today as my nexus 5 should be arriving sometime today. So have the rep scan and should be good to go, at least I have a game plan if I run into some problems.
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Great thread. Could you please take a look at my issue with LTE being slower than 3G here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513844
I've tried adding a new APN but the phone keeps deleting it!
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Currently I have a Unlimited iPhone data plan with AT&T. I wanted to test an android phone and purchased a Nexus 5 unlocked. I just added the WAP. And settings and the phone works okay with LTE. I wanted a bigger phone a purchased a galaxy Note III intetwnional version unlocked but when I popped the SIM in the note Data does not seem to work. I tried the WAP Apr setting and the AT&T phone App setting and still nothing.
PS. I have a Solavei Sim which I used to also test the 3 phones and data was working with all 3
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Maybe you'll need to contact AT&T because maybe you used your SIM with tooo many different phones/IMEI numbers
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Maybe you'll need to contact AT&T because maybe you used your SIM with tooo many different phones/IMEI numbers
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thanks I will try that, I'm even scare about contacting them since they have taken the UNLIMITED data twice from me. I don't think that theyfor any chance give it back to me for a third time. But I can try to purchase a new SIM and try.
So, I've the Verizon 4g LTE edition of the galaxy s3 for a while now and a few months ago I really needed to unlock this phone for use on gsm networks such as AT&T and T-Mobile. At first I was okay with having Voice, Text, and Edge for data.
Later on, I switched to T-Mobile from AT&T and got an iPhone. Now I want to go back to my SCH-i535. There is only one issue: I broke the sim/sd card reader. Now this lead me to think about a possible way to allow for this phone to be able to be used on gsm networks:
Use the other carriers sim/sd reader.
So instead of replacing it with the standard i535 reader, I'll install T-Mobiles SGH T99 reader.
I want to bring this up to see if anyone already knows the outcome or if they can instantly prove my theory wrong before I buy these things.
All answers are appreciated. Thanks
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So, I've the Verizon 4g LTE edition of the galaxy s3 for a while now and a few months ago I really needed to unlock this phone for use on gsm networks such as AT&T and T-Mobile. At first I was okay with having Voice, Text, and Edge for data.
Later on, I switched to T-Mobile from AT&T and got an iPhone. Now I want to go back to my SCH-i535. There is only one issue: I broke the sim/sd card reader. Now this lead me to think about a possible way to allow for this phone to be able to be used on gsm networks:
Use the other carriers sim/sd reader.
So instead of replacing it with the standard i535 reader, I'll install T-Mobiles SGH T99 reader.
I want to bring this up to see if anyone already knows the outcome or if they can instantly prove my theory wrong before I buy these things.
All answers are appreciated. Thanks
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I really don't think it would matter, as long as it's any sgs3 reader you'd have the same result.
It's just a part, and it should be universal. It wouldn't be able to change the band frequencies or anything. All that is regulated in the radio chip on the main circuit board. You'd have to swap out everything.
You should have a phone still capable of edge data only on a gsm network.
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What BadUsername said is true, the parts are somewhat interchangeable. I work in a phone repair business and the sim trays are the same as with the charge ports. I do believe it is firmware side and possibly chipset.When i get back to work Monday i will look at the parts closer.