Hi, I have a Nexus 5, completely stock 4.4.2, never tampered
Whenever there are multiple updates in the Play Store and I press "Update", the first app updates, then the second one starts downloading,
but the download hangs at some point, then after a few seconds the entire Play Store app closes without any message.
After that I can open the Play Store again and try to update the apps, but they only update one at a time, because on the second update it always crashes.
All the Google apps are at the latest versions, Play Store has version 4.6.17. This is happening for a while now, but I can't pinpoint it to a certain version of the Play Store app, but in the past I did not have this problem.
I've tried restarting the device, clearing data and cache for the Play Store app, clearing the cached data for the entire system, even switching the runtime (btw the problem is happening on both Dalvik and ART), but nothing helped. I also have enough Available space: 4 GB as reported in Settings/Storage.
On my wife's Nexus 4, also completely stock and with updated Google apps, the problem it's not happening, so it's not something in my environment.
Did anyone else have this problem? I searched the forums but found nothing relevant.
Any advice?
Thank you.
Hello,
Clear Playstore's app data and cache and reconnect your google account as see whether the problem persists?
Already did that, I said in my post, did not help.
Can anyone provide any advice? Thanks.
andreipaval said:
Already did that, I said in my post, did not help.
Can anyone provide any advice? Thanks.
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andreipaval said:
Hi, I have a Nexus 5, completely stock 4.4.2, never tampered
Whenever there are multiple updates in the Play Store and I press "Update", the first app updates, then the second one starts downloading,
but the download hangs at some point, then after a few seconds the entire Play Store app closes without any message.
After that I can open the Play Store again and try to update the apps, but they only update one at a time, because on the second update it always crashes.
All the Google apps are at the latest versions, Play Store has version 4.6.17. This is happening for a while now, but I can't pinpoint it to a certain version of the Play Store app, but in the past I did not have this problem.
I've tried restarting the device, clearing data and cache for the Play Store app, clearing the cached data for the entire system, even switching the runtime (btw the problem is happening on both Dalvik and ART), but nothing helped. I also have enough Available space: 4 GB as reported in Settings/Storage.
On my wife's Nexus 4, also completely stock and with updated Google apps, the problem it's not happening, so it's not something in my environment.
Did anyone else have this problem? I searched the forums but found nothing relevant.
Any advice?
Thank you.
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Hi
I have the exact same problem on my galaxy note 3 so nothing to add except that I tried a little trick that allows it to finish the updates without having to restart the store. I close it immediately after the batch download starts and then it continues updating in the background. it works most of the times but not always. I really wish someone had a solution to this problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760607
Did you by any chance ever went into the recovery and tried clearing the cache from there?
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Did you by any chance ever went into the recovery and tried clearing the cache from there?
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Yes, I cleared cache and Dalvik from custom recovery. I did a lot of searching on google and XDA and I followed all the guides, including uninstalling play store updates, clear data and cache from apps manager for play store and also Google services framework and download manager but no improvement
Im in the same boat as you on this one.
paolo200 said:
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I have the exact same problem on my galaxy note 3 so nothing to add except that I tried a little trick that allows it to finish the updates without having to restart the store. I close it immediately after the batch download starts and then it continues updating in the background. it works most of the times but not always. I really wish someone had a solution to this problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760607
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Yes, I cleared cache and Dalvik from custom recovery. I did a lot of searching on google and XDA and I followed all the guides, including uninstalling play store updates, clear data and cache from apps manager for play store and also Google services framework and download manager but no improvement
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Are you rooted? What custom recovery are you using? I myself am all stock, never rooted or anything.
And how long does it take to clear the cache from recovery? On my Nexus 5 with stock recovery it takes very long, around 5 or 10 minutes the first time I do it in succession, but it finishes succesfully. If I repeat the clearing of cache without rebooting then it takes a few seconds, like normal.
I read somewhere that it might be an issue with errors on the cache partition and that reformatting this partition might solve it, but I cannot do it from the stock recovery. Maybe if you have the option of reformatting the /cache partition in your custom recovery you should try it.
Another thing that you can do is try to catch the errors with logcat, if you have root you can use an app, I used adb to save a logcat and found some error messages related to the installing of apps but could not find how to solve them. I will post the logcat later.
If you can get a logcat maybe you can post it and we will compare the errors.
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Im in the same boat as you on this one.
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Rooted? Custom recovery?
Did you try to clear cache from recovery? How long does it take?
andreipaval said:
Are you rooted? What custom recovery are you using? I myself am all stock, never rooted or anything.
And how long does it take to clear the cache from recovery? On my Nexus 5 with stock recovery it takes very long, around 5 or 10 minutes the first time I do it in succession, but it finishes succesfully. If I repeat the clearing of cache without rebooting then it takes a few seconds, like normal.
I read somewhere that it might be an issue with errors on the cache partition and that reformatting this partition might solve it, but I cannot do it from the stock recovery. Maybe if you have the option of reformatting the /cache partition in your custom recovery you should try it.
Another thing that you can do is try to catch the errors with logcat, if you have root you can use an app, I used adb to save a logcat and found some error messages related to the installing of apps but could not find how to solve them. I will post the logcat later.
If you can get a logcat maybe you can post it and we will compare the errors.
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Yes I am rooted using CWM Based Recovery 6.0.4.7 with SuperSU 1.94 and BusyBox 1.22.1-Stericson on stock Samsung firmware Android 4.4.2 NB4 unbranded
clearing the cache from CWM recovery only takes a few seconds in my case. I did not try reformatting or anything else because I don't want to risk bricking it.
I will post a logcat as soon as I know how to do it.
Yup to both. Wipe was very fast... Almost too fast in my opinion
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Might try TWRP to see if it helps
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Has anyone found the solution yet? no way to update all apps at once. this is driving me crazy especially when there are many apps to update
I'm also experiencing this behavior as well.
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I have the same issue. Stock rooted...
I don't have a nexus but I was using a google edition ported ROM for my HTC One and was having the same issue drive me nuts. I flashed the stock sense ROM back and the store works fine now. It seems like this problem is google edition devices/OS. I never found a fix though, except to enable automatic updating so it happens in the background. That worked for me
indeed the updates work fine in the background but I would really like to know what causes this issue
Those having this problem can you guys make sure you have the latest Google Play build? Latest is 4.8.20. Go to your play store, go to play store settings and at the bottom it should say 4.8.20. If your version is earlier than that, tap the build version and it should say there's a newer version and that it's installing. At that point, exit from the play store app, and give it a minute or two. Enter back into the play store app, and you repeat the steps to see that you have upgraded your play store build.
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Yes, the Play Store app is updated to the latest version. Now I already got the 4.4.3 update, but the issue is still appearing, but not everytime. I think it depends on the sizes of the updating apps, it might be something related to the cache partition. Can you guys try and clear the cache from the recovery and see how much it lasts? For me it lasts more than 5 minutes and it doesn't seem normal.
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I had the same issue on my S4. After the play store closed about 5 times today when updating apps I decided to Google it. I found someone with a similar issue, and their fix was to enable the Download Manager app, that had somehow been disabled. Mine was already enabled, but I cleared the cache from that app, and then I was able to update my remaining 5 or so apps with no crashes.
I'm not sure how permanent of a fix it is, but it's working so far. Don't know if I'll have to clear it again later or not.
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This is driving me nuts! Every time I install a rom on my verizon gs3, the play store will not connect. It doesn't matter what rom I use. I have tried Hyperdrive, Synergy, Cleanrom, Goodness and I don't what others. It is all the same. Play store will not connect after install. Google now will also tell me that there is no connection as well. I currently run Beans 15 and play store works perfectly. But I like to try new roms and I can't because of this issue.Things I have tried:
When I go to install any rom i first go in to mounts in CWM and format cache, data, sdcard and system, then i wipe cache again from main page, then wipe dalvik and then hit factory reset. Probably overkill but I like to make sure nothing is left from previous installs.
After install I start by clearing cache and dalvik and fix permissions and factory reset
Cleared the host files in the /etc and /system/etc
Backed up google play services and the play store from my beans install, installed them on new rom with no luck
My time and date are correct
My location is correct
Happens no matter the kernel (stock, KT747, zeus)
I have removed accounts rebooted and readded
I have reset app setting in app manager
I have cleared cache and data and force stopped in everything that starts with google
In my last install of cleanrom 7, google now actually worked, but the play store would not and hangouts threw an error saying it couldn't find google.
My 3g/4g works perfectly fine as well as my wifi. I can browse the net, get my email in gmail, my contacts are there and my calendar items show up. Have I missed something somewhere? Any help is greatly appreciated.
I am also runing the VRBMF1 firmware but was happening on MB1 as well. I would also note that everything else in all those roms runs perfectly.
What exactly happens when you try to connect to the play store?
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What exactly happens when you try to connect to the play store?
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Just says not connected or no connection with a retry button. Internet works fine though. Gets on with 3g/4g and wifi.
Hobson318 said:
Just says not connected or no connection with a retry button. Internet works fine though. Gets on with 3g/4g and wifi.
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Have you tried just doing a basic wipe and install without all the other excessive stuff you keep doing? Optionally try clearing cache/data on Google Play and Google Frameworks. You shouldn't need to do all that stuff with permissions and copying files over.
Tarpit_Carnivore said:
Have you tried just doing a basic wipe and install without all the other excessive stuff you keep doing? Optionally try clearing cache/data on Google Play and Google Frameworks. You shouldn't need to do all that stuff with permissions and copying files over.
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. No no to basic wipe. Yes to cache and data stuff in google apps. And no i shouldn't have to copy stuff but it is what i have done to troubleshoot this issue
Are you restoring anything via TiB or doing anything outside of flashing, rebooting and then entering your google account info?
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Are you restoring anything via TiB or doing anything outside of flashing, rebooting and then entering your google account info?
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No. Restoring nothing. Don't even use TiB. I reinstall the long way. But yes flash, boot and follow setup.
Tried again today with the newest beanstalk rom and MOAR rom and got the same results. everything but the play store and google now works perfectly. All i did before installing both of these was to factory data reset, wipe cache and dalvik. No other fancy formatting. At a loss for what to try next.
My s3 did the as,me thing and I had to load 4.0 ICS from Odin and there flash from there to keep my play store connectivity
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Takinato said:
My s3 did the as,me thing and I had to load 4.0 ICS from Odin and there flash from there to keep my play store connectivity
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Well so far so good. I flashed back VRBLK3 because that is what I had already downloaded and still didn't work. Even after all updates to VRBMF1. So I downloaded and Odin'd back to VRALG1 and the play store has worked all the way through latest updated. So that did it for anyone having the same issue. Odin back to VRALG1 and start over. Haven't installed a rom yet but am confident it will work. Will report back after I get one installed.
Edit: Well after flashing Hyperdrive 14 I am back in the no connection phase with the play store. Man this sucks.
That's really strange bro, as long as I Odin a factory rom, I can flash whatever and keep my connectivity. I'm currently on cleanrom 7. But as soon as I factory reset it won't connect
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Takinato said:
That's really strange bro, as long as I Odin a factory rom, I can flash whatever and keep my connectivity. I'm currently on cleanrom 7. But as soon as I factory reset it won't connect
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I think you may have hit it right there. I installed hyperdrive once and there was residual from stock. My weather widget wouldn't work correctly for one. So I did a factory reset and then reinstalled. Hyperdrive installed right and there was no residual from stock but play stopped working. So do you Odin back to stock every time you want to install a new ROM? Or how do you install to get rid of the previous ROM without losing connectivity?
Hello awesome people at xda forums!
I had my N5 for about 2 weeks now, for the first week i've used stock, but i had to try som new roms/kernels so i installed cataclysm rom with franco kernel. I had no problems everything worked great, and google play worked. On my old phone i had xposed framework, and a few modules. I've downloaded it on my N5 and got "keepchat, bootmanger, greenify and gravitybox. Everything still worked great, i used some of the features with gravitybox and enabled some feature where i had to reboot my phone. Something i about statusbar, not really sure though. I've hot rebooted, and my phone kept crashing "system ui crashed" and i tried normal reboot, still crashing. I've factory reset with twrp and used a stock 4.4.2 backup i had, and i was about to download busybox then i got some errors. I think i got a 920 error at first, I've searched the whole web and found a solution. (Or i thought i did) Then it gave me a 403 error, I've spent my whole day trying to find a solution, but could not find any. Heres what I've tried:
Reboot phone. *same issue*
Wipe cache and data from google play, then reboot. *same issue*
Sign out of google account, then wipe cache and data from google play and google services framework, then reboot and sign in. *same issue*
Make a new google account and use it to download apps. *same issue*
Wipe dalvik cache and cache from twrp. *same issue*
Install a update for google play *same issue*
Check for proxy, had none.
I think my APN is fine, not sure though.
I've mixed some of the options above, but still with the same stupid error "403"
My question is, is my N5 bricked? If not, is there a solution to this problem?
Best regards,
Kristoffer
If your phone turns on in any capacity, it's not bricked. That term is only supposed to be used when your phone is rendered completely useless and turned into a paperweight or wait for it.... a brick.
If I were in your shoes I would just flash the factory image from Google and start over again. That'll get you back on your feet.
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Disregard my previous post. I just read an article that says apparently everyone is having play store issues today and getting the 403 error.
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_MetalHead_ said:
Disregard my previous post. I just read an article that says apparently everyone is having play store issues today and getting the 403 error.
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Thank you verry much! You sir, just saved my day
Article in question: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...-with-error-403-for-some-best-to-wait-it-out/
hi, something is wrong with my Nexus 5 and i dont know how to fix it. So a few days ago, I was looking at how much little storage i had left so i went into my apps and i saw that ES file explorer had 1.02Gb on data. So I cleared it, and as soon as I did a lot of apps started crashing. I tried rebooting, and as soon as it booted "Unfortunately, google search has stopped" or something like that. I could barely use my phone at all, i was running HRT Rom 4.4.4 and i tried doing a factory reset and flashing the ROM again, but it still didnt work. Many apps still crashed. So I did another factory reset and i flashed a different ROM, (dirty unicorns) and i flashed PA Gapps and not as many apps crashed, but google search is a big problem. Right now I havent messed around anymore with it. Im on dirty unicorns Rom and everytime i reboot my phone google search crashes continuously for a while, and then it stops. i can use my phone for pretty much what i need it, but google search crashes every time i reboot but after a bit it stops. One another annoying thing is that i cant install xposed now. when i do, the android.system crashes to the point where i have to do a factory reset. I also cant share pictures from my gallery because it crashes. there is one app that every time i try to open it makes my phone reboot (photo punch). This is quite annoying and if someone knows a fix for this i would really appreciate some help. I also already tried uninstalling google search with titanium backup and installing it back from the play store but it doesnt work. And if i try to use another launcher, it crashes every time i hit the home button. no matter what launcher it is. if someone can help me please do so.
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hi, something is wrong with my Nexus 5 and i dont know how to fix it. So a few days ago, I was looking at how much little storage i had left so i went into my apps and i saw that ES file explorer had 1.02Gb on data. So I cleared it, and as soon as I did a lot of apps started crashing. I tried rebooting, and as soon as it booted "Unfortunately, google search has stopped" or something like that. I could barely use my phone at all, i was running HRT Rom 4.4.4 and i tried doing a factory reset and flashing the ROM again, but it still didnt work. Many apps still crashed. So I did another factory reset and i flashed a different ROM, (dirty unicorns) and i flashed PA Gapps and not as many apps crashed, but google search is a big problem. Right now I havent messed around anymore with it. Im on dirty unicorns Rom and everytime i reboot my phone google search crashes continuously for a while, and then it stops. i can use my phone for pretty much what i need it, but google search crashes every time i reboot but after a bit it stops. One another annoying thing is that i cant install xposed now. when i do, the android.system crashes to the point where i have to do a factory reset. I also cant share pictures from my gallery because it crashes. there is one app that every time i try to open it makes my phone reboot (photo punch). This is quite annoying and if someone knows a fix for this i would really appreciate some help. I also already tried uninstalling google search with titanium backup and installing it back from the play store but it doesnt work. And if i try to use another launcher, it crashes every time i hit the home button. no matter what launcher it is. if someone can help me please do so.
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well, you factory resetting, or wiping data isnt fixing your issue, so i highly recommend flashing the nexus 5 factory img and starting over.
Why would you delete that? Lol
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simms22 said:
well, you factory resetting, or wiping data isnt fixing your issue, so i highly recommend flashing the nexus 5 factory img and starting over.
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This is usually the cure all. Spend hours/days chasing an issue, or minutes reflashing. ?
Two days ago I decided to switch from cm12 nightlies to cm12s.
After performing a clean flash I was very pleased to see that I even had the option to restore the apps I had installed before. However, when trying to install those apps I encountered a problem. Because the apps would not download. They would say "Downloading"but it woult get stuck forever.
I had never experienced such problem before but so I thought it was the cm12s flash. So, I flashed back to the latest cm12 nightly I still had on my OPO with the hope that the problem would have vanished. Unfortunately it didn't.
MY PROBLEM:
When I try to install apps from the play store they get stuck in an endless loop of "downloading".
What I tried so far:
flashing back to a normal cm12 nightly
flashing cm11s and after that upgrading to cm12s (in cm11s the problem also persists, same for SOKP-rom to see if it would also persist in a different rom)
rebooting with and without superSU after flashing OS.
entirely wiping my phone (cache, dalvik cache, system, data) and flashing cm12/s
after the step above^, deleting the data and/or cache from "Google Play Services", "Google play Store", "Google Play Framework" (and if possible deleting updates so it goes back to factory app)
changing location settings
deleting google account and re adding it.
clearing Cache and Dalvik Cache multiple times
using the 1-Click installer from their forum
Tried to find the android_secure folder but could not find it. (even with hidden files disabled in windows)
Perhaps even more but I can't quite remember much more...
I experienced after flashing a new os multiple times that the problem is not really the play store and/or the apps in it. But I believe the problem is more with the "Google Play Services" because most of the apps I can update perfectly fine but the "Google Play Services" continuously refuse to update and get stuck at "downloading". Unfortunately that app is needed to be able to use e.g "Gmail".
Hopefully there are more people on this forum who have experienced this problem before and know how to fix it.
Got the same crap... It's been 2 days now with the Store stuck on downloading.
I have all the latest updates, Store, Services etc.
Also tried to disable the security section like Enterprise.
Nothing works.... This is driving me mad!!!
Anyone got a fix?
Nepturion said:
Got the same crap... It's been 2 days now with the Store stuck on downloading.
I have all the latest updates, Store, Services etc.
Also tried to disable the security section like Enterprise.
Nothing works.... This is driving me mad!!!
Anyone got a fix?
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Somehow it fixed itself......
What cought my eye was that if it is not working, try downloading the app via 3g or at your friends house... For some reason it would sometimes not download via wifi but it would via 3g.
I hope this works for you aswel
hubert.hoeve said:
Somehow it fixed itself......
What cought my eye was that if it is not working, try downloading the app via 3g or at your friends house... For some reason it would sometimes not download via wifi but it would via 3g.
I hope this works for you aswel
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I didn't get it working again, so I removed all data and reinstalled the rooted firmware for my device and just did a backup with the mybackup pro.
Somehow there was something with the system or the data, but it works now.
I'm getting the error in several GAPS...however, they all still work. Mostly in Google Plus and Hangouts.
"Unknown issue with Google Play Services".
I've uninstalled Google Play Services using Titanium, but it comes right back.
Using 5.1.1.
Any other tips?
Thanks,
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I'm getting the error in several GAPS...however, they all still work. Mostly in Google Plus and Hangouts.
"Unknown issue with Google Play Services".
I've uninstalled Google Play Services using Titanium, but it comes right back.
Using 5.1.1.
Any other tips?
Thanks,
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Are you on stock or ROM?
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Are you on stock or ROM?
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Yeah, using XtreStoLite Deo-Mod Edition 2.2 ...However, I got this error before when I was on another custom ROM. So, I don't think it's the framework.
Do you think I can just download the same APK and reinstall it using Titanium?
I've seen horror stories with doing that.
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Yeah, using XtreStoLite Deo-Mod Edition 2.2 ...However, I got this error before when I was on another custom ROM. So, I don't think it's the framework.
Do you think I can just download the same APK and reinstall it using Titanium?
I've seen horror stories with doing that.
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I had the same issues on the same ROM you're on. So I did a 100% clean install. Wiping cache, dalvik, system, and data. This fixed it for me
drock212 said:
I had the same issues on the same ROM you're on. So I did a 100% clean install. Wiping cache, dalvik, system, and data. This fixed it for me
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damn, seems a bit extreme.
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damn, seems a bit extreme.
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It was my last resort. I had cleared app data. Uninstalled and reinstalled apps being affected, cleared cache through twrp. Nothing worked except a full clean install
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It was my last resort. I had cleared app data. Uninstalled and reinstalled apps being affected, cleared cache through twrp. Nothing worked except a full clean install
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Ahh, okay. I'm going to try and rip out Play Services. If I do that does all my Google data go away?
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Ahh, okay. I'm going to try and rip out Play Services. If I do that does all my Google data go away?
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If you do that you'll get endless force closes of Google play services. Idk if your Google data would go with it (everything Google is pretty much stored on their servers so I really don't know what you would lose) but I wouldn't suggest doing this. Trying to navigate through your phone while constantly tapping OK to the message that something has force closed is extremely frustrating and difficult if not impossible.
I had the same issue 2 days ago. I'm stock rooted, btw. The problem appeared when I dirty flashed my stock rom on top of a stock rom. I didn't want to update manually cause I've already downloaded the newest firmware version. So I flashed the newest at hand or what's already in my PC. Then, I had a "google play services error" when logging in my gmail app, had a trouble signing in google now and endless loading on youtube. Did the same, cleared cache play services, guess, I got impatient and I uninstalled it, installed the 448 and 440 newest app but the same thing "google play services error" persisted. I also did the extreme, I did the full wipe and odin'd the new firmware, the problem was gone. Bump into a problem when I installed something and had to dirty flash again. Then, it happened again "google play services error" all over again.
TL;DR, lol, Long story short.
I solved it by just clearing google play services cache and uninstalled updates and let itself update again. I didn't have to flash or odin'd again..
I don't know if it will work for you, but it did for me.
marsen2567 said:
I had the same issue 2 days ago. I'm stock rooted, btw. The problem appeared when I dirty flashed my stock rom on top of a stock rom. I didn't want to update manually cause I've already downloaded the newest firmware version. So I flashed the newest at hand or what's already in my PC. Then, I had a "google play services error" when logging in my gmail app, had a trouble signing in google now and endless loading on youtube. Did the same, cleared cache play services, guess, I got impatient and I uninstalled it, installed the 448 and 440 newest app but the same thing "google play services error" persisted. I also did the extreme, I did the full wipe and odin'd the new firmware, the problem was gone. Bump into a problem when I installed something and had to dirty flash again. Then, it happened again "google play services error" all over again.
TL;DR, lol, Long story short.
I solved it by just clearing google play services cache and uninstalled updates and let itself update again. I didn't have to flash or odin'd again..
I don't know if it will work for you, but it did for me.
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HOLY ****!!! That worked! at least for now! Thanks sir!