Before I buy a 200$ dedicated mp3 player, I wana know if the Cowon J3 or S9 have a superior quality sound compared to the Sensation even with Playerpro or winamp apps + Beats plugin (not the earphones)?
I have read that the Sensation has the best audio quality for an Android device but how can't compare to the best dedicated mp3 players aka Cowon J and S9?
vegetaleb said:
Before I buy a 200$ dedicated mp3 player, I wana know if the Cowon J3 or S9 have a superior quality sound compared to the Sensation even with Playerpro or winamp apps + Beats plugin (not the earphones)?
I have read that the Sensation has the best audio quality for an Android device but how can't compare to the best dedicated mp3 players aka Cowon J and S9?
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Hi,
It might just be a case of buying a good set of earphones.
Since I got my BOSE earphones,my Sensation has never sounded SO good.
It certainly saves carrying around two devices.
I am not a fan of paying +100$ on earphones because it will stop working after a year max (cable loose) while a pro MP3 player with a SD slot can last for years.
My sammy P3 has a hardware default (screen panel) but it's still working if I don't mind access to DNSe settings and BT, Cowon J3 should never be thrown in the garbage (bricked ones can be unbricked now) because the P3 dead screen is only limited to P3s + I can add memory later if I want.
The only thing the Sensation will have more is the Audio feedback for the jogging apps
I say not. I've been using my Alessandro MS-1 for about a year and a half, still going strong. Recently bought a Audio Technica ATH-ESW9 and have been in love ever since.
If you want a good FLAC player I'd say go with Hippo Gumstick. I'm pretty sure it's available on Ebay and it has a class A amp built in. :3
It looks like your device doesn't exist anymore
Another advantage of Sensation: I can boost sound output on my car AUX thanks to DSP manager in Playerpro
I've got a cowon x7 and i can tell you that if you got good earplugs the cowon will be better. I didn't use any sound enhancing on the sensation.
The sound of the sensation is good enough with flat eq. Battery time would be bigger problem for me on the sensation.
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Hello i'm a bit confused, can any one tell me does the sound quality using Voodoo is the same o both devices?
And comparing whit iPhones does any one have any opinion? I currently have GS2 but sound quality is horrible so some times on long journeys i just use iPad 2 for listening to music yes i know a bit silly such a big thing, but for short journeys i really like to listen to music from phone.
Any info about this would be really appreciated.
They use same sound hardware (Wolfson WM8994 DAC) sound quality is same
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Other question still not answered: comparing Voodoo whit iPhone4/4s?
I personally haven't listened to the iPhone, but here are some comments from users at Head-fi regarding the topic:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/523884/android-vs-iphone-for-sound-quailty/15
In short, they claim the WM8994 DAC in our Nexus S is better.
Of course as with any opinions, and especially with something as subjective as audio, they should be taken with a grain of salt.
The only "real" way to know which one is better is to take measurements with various scopes, conduct impedance measurements, etc.
What headphones do you currently have/use? The audio differences between the iPhone and NS may be so subtle that your headphones will not detect the differences.
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So, how does it fair to Galaxy S3? Does the Octo version comes with Wolfson audio chip?
So, Exynos version will have wolfson wm5102 sound chip afterall...
I want to know about the volume level - my Nexus 4 went back to Google due to the low aux volume. I aux out all the time and it's an absolute requirement for my phone to be able to output at a reasonable volume. The N4 is laughable in that department, and yes that's with hacks too. Someone please confirm the output volume via the headphone jack is LOUD and I'll be happy!
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I want to know about the volume level - my Nexus 4 went back to Google due to the low aux volume. I aux out all the time and it's an absolute requirement for my phone to be able to output at a reasonable volume. The N4 is laughable in that department, and yes that's with hacks too. Someone please confirm the output volume via the headphone jack is LOUD and I'll be happy!
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GSM Arena's review said that the S600 S4 was clear, but had low output. They also said that the HTC One was much louder, which is why I'm almost considering it over the S4.
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Accourding to GSMArena, in the latest unit the speaker volume is pretty decent, even better than One.
When connected to the amplifier, the sound is superior than almost every phone available in the market. But the DAC is the embedded DAC of S600, so don't know why the difference can be that big.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4-review-914p8.php
Wolfson DAC in Exynos Octa maybe even better
The volume of the headphone output was one of my main complaints about Galaxy S III. No headroom at last year's flagship Samsung was not, in fact, using rebar headphones Etymotic hf5 maximum volume is not enough for comfortable listening to classical music (which usually has a wider dynamic range than other music genres). Fortunately, the Galaxy S4 solved this problem: using the same headphones and listening to the same records I've never had to turn up the volume to the maximum. Also, if the Galaxy S III was a telephone and a deep voice sounded muffled because of this, the Galaxy S4 boasts a more even tonal balance. In general, continuous improvement, anyway
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http://gagadget.com/cellphones/2013-03-27-obzor-samsung-galaxy-s4/
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Accourding to GSMArena, in the latest unit the speaker volume is pretty decent, even better than One.
When connected to the amplifier, the sound is superior than almost every phone available in the market. But the DAC is the embedded DAC of S600, so don't know why the difference can be that big.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4-review-914p8.php
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They said the crosstalk was the only downside of the One and you'd need high tech equipment to even hear it. However, they also said that the S4 was still quiet when compared with the One/Butterfly, which is what the OP is focusing on the most.
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They said the crosstalk was the only downside of the One and you'd need high tech equipment to even hear it. However, they also said that the S4 was still quiet when compared with the One/Butterfly, which is what the OP is focusing on the most.
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Of course the One/Butterfly are louder, they have a separate inbuilt headphone amplifier like all of HTCs recent phones (I think it first appeared in their WP models from last year).
That isn't, in and of itself, a reason to get a One over an S4 necessarily - it still depends on your use-case scenarios and what headphones you use etc. The majority using fairly sensitive IEMs are not going to experience a great deal of benefit from the headphone amplifier. For those who are using harder to drive headphones and don't want to use an external headphone amp then it starts to make more sense.
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Of course the One/Butterfly are louder, they have a separate inbuilt headphone amplifier like all of HTCs recent phones (I think it first appeared in their WP models from last year).
That isn't, in and of itself, a reason to get a One over an S4 necessarily - it still depends on your use-case scenarios and what headphones you use etc. The majority using fairly sensitive IEMs are not going to experience a great deal of benefit from the headphone amplifier. For those who are using harder to drive headphones and don't want to use an external headphone amp then it starts to make more sense.
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But the OP definitely stated that if the S4 is not very loud, it won't be the phone for him due to Aux purposes (I'm guessing in his/her car). And GSM Arena proved the One to be louder. So the better choice (in terms of sound) for the OP would be the One.
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Let's put it this way, set an alarm on the one and you won't sleep through it..
If the differences are slight, too slight to hear with standard headphones then the one is definitely better sound output wise than the s4.
Depending on what kind of user you are, this could make your choice fairly simple.
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But the OP definitely stated that if the S4 is not very loud, it won't be the phone for him due to Aux purposes (I'm guessing in his/her car). And GSM Arena proved the One to be louder. So the better choice (in terms of sound) for the OP would be the One.
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Ah, the OP said nothing of the sort. I wasn't replying to anyone in particular, only trying to generally point out that there is more to consider than a straight numbers comparison of volume outputs.
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Ah, the OP said nothing of the sort. I wasn't replying to anyone in particular, only trying to generally point out that there is more to consider than a straight numbers comparison of volume outputs.
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Whoops. You're right. I was referring to the third poster in this thread.
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I find it curious that GSMarena reviewed the snapdragon version, rather than the "real gsm" exynos version with wolfson. On S3 with Wolfson, increasing hardware volume levels takes about five minutes. Root and change one number in a text file. Not sure on the snapdragon one.
After hearing how different the Nexus 4 sounded compared to their review, I take anything they say with a grain of salt.
Supercurio's twitter feed is worth watching for commentary on audio quality also: https://twitter.com/supercurio
Indeed, GSMArena's sound tests need to be taken with a degree of scepticism, having been heavily criticized by people like Supercurio.
That's why i never quoted gsmarena's review in any part of my posts here and other thread... The test itself is "unproper" to begin with...
I got S3 and recently got HTC one and can confirm that its a best quality sound I heard in phone from speaker and headphone since 2002 and I have Bose headphone, urbets from dr dre and standard headphone in box and I found that htc's headphone got excellent clarity, loundness, deep bass and trable which is better than Bose headphone and as good as urbets of course in HTC one
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onlinejobwork said:
I got S3 and recently got HTC one and can confirm that its a best quality sound I heard in phone from speaker and headphone since 2002 and I have Bose headphone, urbets from dr dre and standard headphone in box and I found that htc's headphone got excellent clarity, loundness, deep bass and trable which is better than Bose headphone and as good as urbets of course in HTC one
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I tried the HTC One in-store the other day, i agree the speakers on there is quiet good, but headphone wise, its not as good as compared to my Note 2. The Note 2 is much more cleaner and fuller audio quality without any tweaks, with wolfson audio kernel, the HTC One does not even come close.
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I tried the HTC One in-store the other day, i agree the speakers on there is quiet good, but headphone wise, its not as good as compared to my Note 2. The Note 2 is much more cleaner and fuller audio quality without any tweaks, with wolfson audio kernel, the HTC One does not even come close.
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I agree,with some audio kernel , wolfson DAC is untouchable(with headphones)
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Did a blind and volume-matched test with the One and S4 (i9505 international version with the same DAC as the one). Listened on 12 and 16ohm IEMs and 32ohm cans.
First interesting thing was that the Samsung stock player is noticeably louder than PowerAMP (not yet tested other third party players). Around 10dB louder if PowerAMP has direct volume control off and ~5dB louder if PowerAMP is using direct volume control. Since we wanted to use the same player in both devices we had to drop the HTC One volume down three notches for them to match closely (only one step to match with the S4 stock player).
Turned off Beats on the One.
Noted with interest that when blinding was removed we both preferred the S4 sound over the One overall, better instrument separation and clarity, less fatiguing and harsh. Generally preferred the bass on the One, although the One was quite boomy. There was one MAJOR problem with the S4 though - crackling with prominent low bass frequencies. This was absent on the T5p at 32ohm, noticeable on the 16ohm IEMs, and very noticeable on the 12ohm IEMs. If this is output impedance related as it appears to be this would put the S4 (i9505) output impedance somewhere in the 4-8ohm range, making it impossible to recommend to anyone using more sensitive IEMs.
ADDIT: Confirmation from users of CIEMs re: crackling on the i9505.
WARNING: DO NOT BUY THE INTERNATIONAL S4 i9505 IF YOU USE SENSITIVE IEMS and plan to use it as a music player without taking advantage of USB audio. This is why you cannot trust any of the major sites audio reviews for handsets.
I now urgently need to test the i9500...
ama3654 said:
I tried the HTC One in-store the other day, i agree the speakers on there is quiet good, but headphone wise, its not as good as compared to my Note 2. The Note 2 is much more cleaner and fuller audio quality without any tweaks, with wolfson audio kernel, the HTC One does not even come close.
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+1. Obviously Stereo speakers in itself makes it HTC One hands down the best in that department. But nothing beats Wolfson DAC for headphone audio quality IMHO.
Alright, first off, a brief history. I had the original GNote after which I jumped ship to WP8 with the Lumia 920.
I've loved the 920 overall, the camera is unbelievably good, and FAR FAR better than what my note was, but i'm kinda bored with the wp8 environment and have been looking to switch back to android for the customization and the flexibility.
I've narrowed my hunt down to the G2 and the Note3, though i'm leaning way more to the note 3 since i loved the S-pen and the size of my original Note.
The biggest issue i had on the note, more than the crappy camera and the horrible pictures, was the Audio quality via headphones. The note had the ****ty yamaha DAC.
I've heard some good things about the audio quality on the G2, so that's had me all confused.
Now, I'm no audiophile, but I listen to a lot of music on headphones (picking up the Beyerdynamic DT770 soon!) and in my car and am very worried about the sound quality.
I'll have access only to the Exynos variant of the Note 3 with the Octa-core chip, and have been researching and trying to find some honest opinions regarding the SQ via headphones.
From what i know, the Note 3(both the variants) dont ship with the highly acclaimed wolfson dac that the Note 2 shipped with. And i know there's a difference between the Qualcomm variant and the Exynos variant(which probably has a yamaha dac) when it comes to sound quality.
My 920 isn't the best either, but the audio is very balanced, and produces results that are decent enough for my needs. (My dad's 4S is kinda better than my 920)
Now, I'd love to hear your thoughts about this. how good/bad is it? has anyone used them with a high quality pair of cans? how do they sound?
Also, I understand that the 13mp lens on the back of this beast can no way beat the 920's stellar camera, but are the shots not even in the same league as that of the 920/Iphone 5?
I'm looking forward to some insightful opinions, and hopefully I'll have this baby in my hands soon!
Thank you.
You can check here, the numbers speak for themselves
I've seen the numbers, but sometimes number's aren't the perfect evaluation of quality, so just hoped to get some direct feedback from users here.
Audio Quality is a major concern so the people using the n9000 exynos variant, What do you think of the audio quality via headphones?
Any comments will be of great help!
Thank you
Trust me,the audio quality of Note 3 is better than G2
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wiseandhigh said:
I've seen the numbers, but sometimes number's aren't the perfect evaluation of quality, so just hoped to get some direct feedback from users here.
Audio Quality is a major concern so the people using the n9000 exynos variant, What do you think of the audio quality via headphones?
Any comments will be of great help!
Thank you
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i have N900 and audio quality is just brilliant no issues what so ever ... i use klipsch ear phones and they sound amazing
Thank you!
any insights about the camera as well?
You can't just ask about audio quality because there are so many variables at play. What's the quality of the media? Lossless? 128KB compressed MP3s? What is the media being output to? Included crappy headphones? $500+ IEMs? Someone was complaining about the lack of bass on the N3 compared to the N2 using Samsung headphones. Was the problem exaggerated bass on the N2 and the N3 was more naturally tuned? Or was the N3 really lacking bass?
The GSMArena testing shows the actual recorded output of the N3 as compared to other devices subjected to the same tests. It's excellent (meaning true) with a comment about it not being the loudest of devices they've tested. How that translates in to what you (or others) are looking for depends on your taste (heavy bass isn't true; it's a preference), the quality of the media being used, and the capabilities of what's playing the media back.