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Best sound quality WM device?

what would people say is the best sounding (music - via headphones) windows mobile device.
most mobile phones are usually pretty crap, my TyTN wasn't great even with SRS, the Sedna isn't great either.
has anyone got any ideas?
i have a usually use a B&O Beosound 2 and use either the bundled A8 headphones or a pair of Westone UM2 in-ear earphones.
Don't like carrying two devices, so I'm selling the Sedna and have an upcoming upgrade. (Currently using a primitive K850i - nice camera though)
The Beosound 2 only has 2GB memory so that's not great too.
Do you reckon the Touch Diamond will have decent/better sound - it has an inbuilt 3.5mm adapter
or is that the Xperia X1? what would people recommend?
ideally a device with a good memory and a good camera too (so the X1 & diamond both fit)
i don't wanna carry an mp3 player and a phone/pocketPC.
i was tempted into treason... an iphone but tried (didn't buy) and didn't love it.
thanks, any help would be appreciated.
Off the point: the HTC Touch Pro seems almost identical to the Diamond, but with a memory card slot , a bit more RAM and is a few milimetres thicker? easy choice then right>

aameerp said:
The Beosound 2 only has 2GB memory so that's not great too.
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The Diamond only has 4GB storage, which is pretty much a showstopper for me.
aameerp said:
ideally a device with a good memory and a good camera too (so the X1 & diamond both fit)
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I wouldn't call these cameras good. If you really need a good(!) camera, get the Nokia N95 or N82. Incidentally, it's also an excellent multimedia phone for both A2DP and speaker usage. As far as wired(!) headphones usage is concerned, it can be a bit noisy with more sensitive headphones with lower volume levels; therefore, you might want to prefer either A2DP or speaker mode. The latter, incidentally, is simply unbeatable.
aameerp said:
Off the point: the HTC Touch Pro seems almost identical to the Diamond, but with a memory card slot , a bit more RAM and is a few milimetres thicker? easy choice then right>
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But it isn't plagued by the 4GB storage.

aameerp said:
what would people say is the best sounding (music - via headphones) windows mobile device.
most mobile phones are usually pretty crap, my TyTN wasn't great even with SRS, the Sedna isn't great either.
has anyone got any ideas?
i have a usually use a B&O Beosound 2 and use either the bundled A8 headphones or a pair of Westone UM2 in-ear earphones.
Don't like carrying two devices, so I'm selling the Sedna and have an upcoming upgrade. (Currently using a primitive K850i - nice camera though)
The Beosound 2 only has 2GB memory so that's not great too.
Do you reckon the Touch Diamond will have decent/better sound - it has an inbuilt 3.5mm adapter
or is that the Xperia X1? what would people recommend?
ideally a device with a good memory and a good camera too (so the X1 & diamond both fit)
i don't wanna carry an mp3 player and a phone/pocketPC.
i was tempted into treason... an iphone but tried (didn't buy) and didn't love it.
thanks, any help would be appreciated.
Off the point: the HTC Touch Pro seems almost identical to the Diamond, but with a memory card slot , a bit more RAM and is a few milimetres thicker? easy choice then right>
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any of the devices could play very good... Just instal TCPMP and tune the equalizer very wel and you get very good quality out of whichever...
I had this problem until i took my time to really tune tcpmp..
bR

The Touch Diamond doesn't have a built-in 3.5mm adapter. But it still sounded really awesome (and looked really awesome) while watching music videos on Coreplayer (equalizer off) with the bundled stereo headset. Certainly sounded much better than Touch Dual.
Haven't gotten myself a 3.5mm adapter yet...so can't really tell how it sounds with higher-end earphones.

A2DP? it's crap but useful. neither of my wired earphones are noisy. without bragging they cost double almost any bluetooth A2DP headphones, and sound far better (the A2DP buzz...)
I had Motorola HT820 as soon as they were released (reliable), later bought Gear4 Bluphones (very light and small and in-ear) and both weren't great sounding, but good for the gym.
The HT820, as primitive now for me had the best range vs. Gear4 Bluphones or even Motorola S9.
indoors range was fine, outdoors it was crap with Gear4 Bluphones (weird???) as device (Hermes usually or K850i) was in pocket (that's only 3 feet!!!), honestly I could turn my head and sound would stop/stutter.
the headphones or device weren't faulty either.
speaker mode? where i come from that's for chavs... i could do without a speaker to be honest (except for call alerts)
good point about the 4gb limit on the Diamond - i use high bitrate mp3's so can't get many songs on and high-res pics are large in size too.
on my k850i with 4gb microSD i have about 350 mp3s (mostly 256 kbps) and around 1000 pics.
3.2 megapixel can be good with the right settibgs/lens etc.
the 5-megapixel k850i is probably the best camera avilable on a phone and it's not as good as a 4-megapixel digital camer, but is far better than a LG viewty 5-megapixel camera...
so the X1 camera seems likely to be better than Diamond (and K800i hade same spec - it was quite good).
I can confirm the X1 has a 3.5mm jack.
What about sound cards/drivers etc.?
or is this irrelevant?

The diamond has a 4gig limit? You guys sure? I mean, you can put an 8gig in the Touch Dual, so surely the Diamond has the same SDHC support?
And as for sound quality, if you're after sound quality and you've actually thought that B&O is good, I think you need your ears checking Honestly, B&O are masters in the art of dressing up mid-range gear in nice clothes and making them out to be high end. When they very definitely are not.
There isn't a mobile phone on the market that has truly decent sound quality. Some sound reasonable, but none are truly high fidelity playback kit.

i was using xda flame for the last 2 weeks ,i can say that the flame has a good sound quality ,it use the goforce 5500 to process the sound with srs to back it up and having 2 gig of internal memory.

B&O's good enough for me. Even if it is mid-range it's better than most.
I can't afford top-end really, being a student.
I acquired the B&O taste from my granddad. The Beosound 2 was a gift and the Beosound 9000 I also have I 'borrowed' from him (permanently). Best sound I've heard (at my/someone's home).
I even did a straight test between HQ mp3's and an ipod video and there was a great difference.
I'm not going to fork out £450 for a 2GB mp3 player, or £2000+ on a CD player!
I wouldn't recommend them unless they were cheap therefore, for me around £100 would be a decent price for a Beosound 2.
The damned thing doesn't even have a screen.
XDA flame looked promising, I remember but I kinda missed it and it was unavailable when I wanted it... the Nvidia 3D chip thing was exciting, let's hope they follow-up on upcoming devices.
Has anyone used B&O Serenata (it fetches <£500 even on ebay!!!)
It uses 'ICEpower' but so does thesamsung Soul, that seems a gimmick however.

Diamond has no SDHC...its built in mem only!
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The diamond has a 4gig limit? You guys sure? I mean, you can put an 8gig in the Touch Dual, so surely the Diamond has the same SDHC support?
And as for sound quality, if you're after sound quality and you've actually thought that B&O is good, I think you need your ears checking Honestly, B&O are masters in the art of dressing up mid-range gear in nice clothes and making them out to be high end. When they very definitely are not.
There isn't a mobile phone on the market that has truly decent sound quality. Some sound reasonable, but none are truly high fidelity playback kit.
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[Q] How about audio quality?

Hello guys,
I am interested in buying the HTC chacha. I want to use it as a portable music player too, so i want to ask about the audio quality with headphones plugged in (loudness, sound quality). My headphones are good so that won't be an issue.
Thanks!

Sound quality is not as good/loud as it was on my Blackberry 9700 BUT the phone makes up for it with the all the quality audio apps in the market.
Try out Power AMP by Max MP and Music by Google Inc.
I'm using Audio Technica ATH-M50 Pro Studio Monitors.

Thank you for your reply, Eric. That was a really good comparison, i know BB 9700 plays music very nice with headphones.
I think i'm going to buy the Chacha...still waiting for other opinions about audio quality, though.
Btw, i have Razer moray black, hope it'll be a nice match.

Audio quality is pretty good for the average listener, but it drains the batter pretty quickly.
I bought the phone yesterday and I'm liking it so far. Taking out the battery is a pain, much like other HTC phones.

When I have to do paperwork I enjoy stay listening to music with TuneIn Radio app. Very good so far. Yes it drains the battery.

Any way to increase sound quality of songs?

I have a 5 year old samsung YP-P2 MP3, and it's sound quality far surpasses that of my girlfriends galaxy S2, my Desire Z, and my friends iPhone 4.
I was wondering if there are ANY apps or tweaks or hacks that will improve the sound quality generated by the phones?
Of course I am using 320 kbps bitrate songs for testing, and the same headphones.
My MP3 sounds crisper, much deeper bass, and seems to have a wider treble range.

It's subjective. You've gotten used to the sound of your own device and therefore the others don't sound as good to you. Anybody else may listen to all the ones you listed and decide that yours is the only one that sounds bad!
If you were going to change device i would use use it for a few weeks before making any decisions on how it sounds. It's often the case that once your accustomed to the new sound you may come to prefer it.
Either way, rather than looking around for DSP solutions, which only degrade sound quality, i'd invest in some good headphones... that is the best way to go.
I'm using Shure SE530's, which are amazing no matter what you plug them into, but not everyone wants to spend that amount of money! Check here for a recent review of some affordable headphones:
http://www.reghardware.com/2011/10/15/ten_in_ear_headphones_with_microphones/

Low quality sound?
convolution said:
I have a 5 year old samsung YP-P2 MP3, and it's sound quality far surpasses that of my girlfriends galaxy S2, my Desire Z, and my friends iPhone 4.
I was wondering if there are ANY apps or tweaks or hacks that will improve the sound quality generated by the phones?
Of course I am using 320 kbps bitrate songs for testing, and the same headphones.
My MP3 sounds crisper, much deeper bass, and seems to have a wider treble range.
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In case you are rooted, try Viper4Android http://play.google.com/store/apps/d...m.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
I am currently using Galaxy Nexus GSM and it has a very low quality speaker sound. This app did wonders for me

which is the best ear phones you used?

Tell me what ear plugs you guys use,
Suggest me some.
Does the quality of audio in ear plugs change of we use after flashing Dolby??.

Since you asked earbuds and not headphone
it is Creative EP-630 (deep base )

Brainwavz Proalpha - great detail, not huge beats, but detail on whole frequency scale.
Yes, with Dolby, it will change, it will sound more "amusingly", but sometimes will lack in detail. I recommend only PowerAmp(or noozy, Neutron) and V4A
PS: sorry for commenting on your post, I've clicked on different buttton.

im using iem ATH clr 100, with v4a preinstalled in my rom (miui polska)
its cheap but i really enjoyed the sound quality

I use the Edifier H180 earphones and a KZ ATE in ear monitor. Both are cheap and very good. I don't use Dolby or any other enhancements.

Cowon em1

i use beyerdinamic mmx102ie, not the best tho
but fairly enough. and i don't use enhancement
tried 215spe and feels better, but still just so so

i using iem over ear, basic ie200, good bass, good fitting, good price
no need sound mod anymore..

In my honest opinion, Sony XB50ap is the best earphone i ever heard. I tried many earphone/headphone, on each i could find few things which were not the best compared to sony XB50ap.
Not only it has excellent bass, its mid and high are clear and distinct, you could hear all the notes and different pitch clearly and uniquely.
It has best noise isolation, and the sound intensity is the best of non active earphone i ever heard. Meaning, you could set low playback volume you could still hear it loud and clear.
A perfect earphone.
I use ISO equalizer band on Winamp for testing with EQ, since its ISO band behavior on other devices/player is near equal.
But, the best combo was with MAXX audio mod for Lenovo K3 note, default dolby app was useless like most sound enhancing apps on phone.
Maxx audio with default equalizer, with bass and treble knob set at required level, give best sound experience. If only someone would work on maxx audio to make it work on Redmi 2.
PS: only negative, may be bit big on size and thus everyone may not like it. Cost i think is not bad considering quality and what you can get from other brand.
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trust me dude, just get Sony XB50ap. You won't regret it. Make sure you buy it from authorized source and not some counterfeit item.

Using Panasonic HJE125s, really good earphones for cheap price

Sennheiser CX180 Street II, the music sounds good. I'm not an expert in music but if an earphone gives decent output, it's good enough for me

I was previously using stock Samsung headphones with my HM2014818.
With XTREMEMUSIC and V4A, it already sounded insane and one thing was clear to me that, the details of the sound being delivered, i.e. the highs mids and lows to be technical, are much of the concern of the underlying software itself, than good quality of headphones. Each headphone has atleast a good amount of frequency response which is enough to unleash the full power of the vibration being sent to it. If the vibration itself is dumped, no hardware can do enough.
I recently bought Sony MDR XB650BT, which sounds obviously slightly more dynamic due to its bigger drivers, gives deeper bass due to the XB, better fittings and all, but everything else is almost pretty same.
So my point is, before going to buy an extremely expensive hardware for listening to better music, make changes to the software itself. There are a whole bunch of soundmods available at XDA, try any or all of them(though my personal favorite has always been the XM, but that's part of another story ), and then decide.

I use Creative E600....whivh i consider the best budget earphone!

To me, Phillips is the best sound quality or Sony.

mi capsules are also good

sennheiser makes me comfortable with good ups,mid, and downs.

im using beats tour
Sent from my Wingtech Redmi 2 using XDA Labs

I am using the audio technica ATH CLR 100 for more than 6 months now. Really nice pair of ear phones for the price. Even though the cable used looks and feels cheep, for my usage (Kinda rough) I've failed to damage it

Right now, using Cowon EM1 and AudioTechnica CKX7iS. Love the CKX7iS. Wasn't satisfied with the performance of EM1 initially, but I removed the filter and switched the buds with that of another old AudioTechnica's and bam, it's amazing now.
Used Dolby long back and didn't like it. The audio enhancements that come with stock MIUI works great. I've seen similar outputs only in Viper Audio, with some IRs.

Well i am on mi stock earphone mi in ear headphone pro gold that is quite costly but sounds good i mean great i can't even imagine like that one sound quality. It is very important to know sound quality before you buy any earphone or headphone

HTC A9 the King of Audio on smartphones

My background for Audio is Samsung P2-P3 and Cowon J3 as dedicated MP3 players, HTC M7,M8 and M9 as for smartphones.
Tested earphones are the stock bundled HTC iem, Hifiman RE-262 and RE-272
Tested BT are HTC Car Stereoclip and Sony SBH-50
The HTC bundled iem didn't sound well because the sound was somehow plasticky and cheap nothing to do with the bundled Beats earphones that were bundled with some old HTC phones, so I will focus on the Hifiman sound.
Hifiman RE-272 is a 20 Ohm pair of iem that normally need an additional AMP or DAC like a Fiio or HM801, but since the M8 HTC is integrating a professional DAC, the M9 and the A9 got a 24bit/192khz chip, though it looks like the A9 Amp is louder.
The HTC A9 has what is called Boomsound which will make the bass and mids better without getting muddy, this mode will also boost the overall loudness.
I tried the RE-272 on the LG G4 that has no Amp or DAC and the sound volume was low and without the crisp details the RE-272 should give, the HTC A9 is the total opposite!
Bass is deep and powerful even if these Hifiman were not known to be bassy, Bass even though high and deep will not overshadow on mids and treble.
Details are superbly present and crisp.
Soundstage is as wide as the RE-272 can go meaning very wide.
Mids and highs are pretty well balanced, they are well boosted without losing in quality.
Tested with Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Infected Mushrooms, some Trance tracks and the new album of Astrix He.Art.
Volume is pretty high,I like high volumes with Psytrance tunes but with the A9 + RE-272 I can't put them at max because they are too loud, but even at max sound is not distorded at all.
So these A9 can drive correctly a 20 Ohm RE-272 meaning they are perfect for all kinds of audiophile earphones.
Bluetooth:
The HTC A9 is capable of aptx + BT 4.1 like its predecessors M9 and M8 but the BT chip is now louder, paired with my HTC Car Stereoclip which are aptx and BT 4.0, sound never been so loud, bass so deep and details crystal clear, it even better when using V4A to boost even more the volume.
A9 vs M9: They probably share the same DAC but the Amp is different, the sound signature of the A9 is a bit more dynamic too, loudness is better.
A9 vs G4 As said before it's a whole universe of difference, sound is not only 3x louder but sound quality and details are way better than G4.
A9 vs Iphone 6+: My friend who has an iphone 6+ and I tested the difference between his phone and A9, the A9 wins with a slightly better audio quality and even a bit more loudness.
Well while waiting for the HTC M10 that would most probably use the same DAC/Amp the HTC A9 is undoubtedly the king of Audio on smartphones, and I recommend it highly for audiophiles.

I listen to a lot of music on my phone especially on headphones, I use poweramp but find I need to turn boomsound off for a better experience I have some Sony over ear headphones, my previous phone was a nexus 6p the sound was nowhere near as good as the A9, single biggest reason I'm a HTC fan from M7 on sound has been impressive...
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What phone has better audio (dac), HTC A9 or HTC 10 ?

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What phone has better audio (dac), HTC A9 or HTC 10 ?
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Hard to say.... I don't have the 10 yet but I would guess it's damn near the same from the specs really. The HTC 10 is newer so it's better but not by a huge range is what I'm getting at lol. I could be wrong idk

Someone knows which Amp and Audio-Codec is used ?
HTC just says Hi-Fi HD Amp with 24bit/192khz and Dobly.
Samsung with the S7 and BQ with the Aquarius X5 Plus where more precise (Even if both are only able to play up to 96khz/24bit) both are using the Qualcomm WCD9335.
For the HTC 10 (I bet the A9 uses the same dedicated Stuff) , AndroidCentral used RMAA to test the Audio-Quality. :
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-10-audio-testing-boomsound-evolved

I have to agree with this post. By a fair margin the A9 is louder while stunningly crisp even at full power with my Aiaiai TMA-2 Nextbit Robin editions. Better than every other device i've tried(20+).