Hey guys!
I've got my N5 several months ago and I was to set up the GMusic service straight away.
At first, that was a perfect solution to do everything wirelessly and not to occupy the precious memory space (I have 20 Gigs of music for 32 GB phone. Sounds tough.)
Ever since I got my first iPod back in 2007, I was organizing my entire music library all neatly in iTunes, transferring that between numerous computers over time being.
Google Music manager works perfectly with uploading that, however, I got to know that this syncronisation is kind of "one way" only.
You only get to UPload the music from the computer and that's it.
If you delete something from your PC/Mac music library, or download some music on your phone, there is no way to sync it with Google.
Same happens, when you correct wrong tags in your music library (e.g. "Royksopp" to "Röyksopp"), it doesn't reflect whatsoever on Google or your phone.
So, after messing around with that a bit, I tried to come up with a solution like iTunes does with iPhones.
I personally haven't got any iPhone for years but they have iTunes Match for your music library to be stored in cloud and be easily manageable from your computer (I mean, if you delete it from your computer, you delete it from the cloud)
Unfortunately, all those ideas available (like do a dropbox folder sync to a GMusic) is nothing but useless.
Is there a way to kind of establish that all-ways PC <--> GMusic <--> Android syncronisation?
I mean, I am perfectly alright with switching services, players (let it not be iTunes and Google Music)...
Just tell me guys what did you come up with?
ioffer007 said:
Hey guys!
I've got my N5 several months ago and I was to set up the GMusic service straight away.
At first, that was a perfect solution to do everything wirelessly and not to occupy the precious memory space (I have 20 Gigs of music for 32 GB phone. Sounds tough.)
Ever since I got my first iPod back in 2007, I was organizing my entire music library all neatly in iTunes, transferring that between numerous computers over time being.
Google Music manager works perfectly with uploading that, however, I got to know that this syncronisation is kind of "one way" only.
You only get to UPload the music from the computer and that's it.
If you delete something from your PC/Mac music library, or download some music on your phone, there is no way to sync it with Google.
Same happens, when you correct wrong tags in your music library (e.g. "Royksopp" to "Röyksopp"), it doesn't reflect whatsoever on Google or your phone.
If you download music on your phone from Google play, it does add it to your library. But I think the strange thing is, you have to pin it on a playlist or something otherwise if you just hit "on device" it will be greyed out, or you have to manually add it to the phone.
For what it is worth, if you go to the labs section of settings inside chrome inside the google play music store (if you use it) you can drag and drop songs in the window and it will add them to the library.
So, after messing around with that a bit, I tried to come up with a solution like iTunes does with iPhones.
I personally haven't got any iPhone for years but they have iTunes Match for your music library to be stored in cloud and be easily manageable from your computer (I mean, if you delete it from your computer, you delete it from the cloud)
Unfortunately, all those ideas available (like do a dropbox folder sync to a GMusic) is nothing but useless.
Is there a way to kind of establish that all-ways PC <--> GMusic <--> Android syncronisation?
I mean, I am perfectly alright with switching services, players (let it not be iTunes and Google Music)...
Just tell me guys what did you come up with?
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I feel your pain, I think the Google Play Music app is severely limited. Maybe they will address this at their I/O conference next month I am a little confused but I think I know what you are saying.
You can edit info inside google play of your browser, just pick the song, click the three dots, and edit the info.
I may be shot for saying this but..... Sometimes I use iTunes, download the track, and upload it to my Google cloud. I also keep an external drive that I keep all my music in. You are able to add folders to the Google Music app to it will sync those to the cloud if you use say amazon, itunes etc.. My problem with google play music manager is that it continuously downloads the same songs for some reason and I have a lot of duplicates, I think it is a limitation of the manager.
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1.) Download and install
For Windows iTunes Agent.
For Mac iTuneMyWalkman.
2.) Once installed, the application runs in the system tray and monitors iTunes.
3.) Plug the Infuse into your computer's USB port and mount it.
4.) Create a folder on the mounted Infuse called Music.
5.) Right-click on the iTunes Agent icon in the system tray.
6.) Click Preferences.
7.) Leave all defaults checked and click the New button.
8.) Give the device a name. (Infuse in this case)
9.) Leave Synchronize pattern: set to iTunes.
10.) Click the Choose button and select the Music folder you created on the Infuse.
11.) Click the Create button and select the Music folder you created on the Infuse.
12.) Click Save and then Close.
13.) Launch iTunes and you will see a playlist folder called My Devices, under which you will see the Infuse.
14.) Simply drag the music you wish to synchronize from your iTunes library to your Infuse into this playlist
15.) Finally, right-click on the iTunes Agent icon in the system tray and select Synchronize devices
You could do all that, which seems OK. Here's the easier version (none of this sync business):
1. Sort your music by kind. This will find your music that is protected. Convert your library from the protected format by right clicking on your library and converting to mp3 within itunes. I have about 2000 songs and it took about 30 minutes. This is good because it takes any DRM off of the files and allows you to put them wherever you want. Once done, I deleted the Itunes DRM protected versions so I wouldn't have duplicates in my library.
2. Drag and drop onto your phone. I created a music folder on my sd card.
This was the one task I did not want to go through when I swapped from my IOS to Android, but it was quick and painless.
hehe, or you could just download DoubleTwist on your Mac\PC, and DoubleTwist on your Android phone and it'll do it all for you... playlists, organization, etc. Takes about 1 minute to get it started the first time, and it's all wireless and totally automated. Not sure why anyone would go through the OP's laundry list of instructions, haah.
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hehe, or you could just download DoubleTwist on your Mac\PC, and DoubleTwist on your Android phone and it'll do it all for you... playlists, organization, etc. Takes about 1 minute to get it started the first time, and it's all wireless and totally automated. Not sure why anyone would go through the OP's laundry list of instructions, haah.
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Woah. Super polished software... Thanks for the recommendation! If i like it i might upgrade to airsync
bella92108 said:
hehe, or you could just download DoubleTwist on your Mac\PC, and DoubleTwist on your Android phone and it'll do it all for you... playlists, organization, etc. Takes about 1 minute to get it started the first time, and it's all wireless and totally automated. Not sure why anyone would go through the OP's laundry list of instructions, haah.
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Hey I have Double Twist, but this software is not seeing my memory card which is bigger than internal memory of My SGS II, is there any option which will allow me save my track there?
sugfawlo said:
Hey I have Double Twist, but this software is not seeing my memory card which is bigger than internal memory of My SGS II, is there any option which will allow me save my track there?
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Use Google music. Done. Install the Google music manager and then it will bring all of your music from your computer and sync it to the Google servers, and then you will be happy. If you want it locally, just plug in and open in mass storage mode. Done.
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why use bull**** apple software. iTunes may be the biggest piece of crap ever to come out of any major software company. apple should be ashamed of how ****ty it is especially with their reputation for stable quick software.
the phone has an mpt transfer mode that works with kies full (available in foreign markets) and I've heard media player works as well. why not use media player? it comes with windows. or forget the slow mtp sync which I find annoying and just copy the files to the phone.
obviously android offers countless options in music, You can sync to the cloud with Google music, copy/paste over usb, mtp transfer with kies or media player, mount the phone as network drive via FTP, webdav, or other technique, play remote content over dlna or upnp or other options. not to mention the market apps. why in the hell are people working to make our device which is superior in this respect to work like the worst feature of the out dated and limited iPod with maybe the worst mtp application on the market.
why not explore the options that set android apart from the iPhone instead of atemting to use the things that limit the iphone. it doesn't make sense to me.
Dani897 said:
why use bull**** apple software. iTunes may be the biggest piece of crap ever to come out of any major software company. apple should be ashamed of how ****ty it is especially with their reputation for stable quick software.
the phone has an mpt transfer mode that works with kies full (available in foreign markets) and I've heard media player works as well. why not use media player? it comes with windows. or forget the slow mtp sync which I find annoying and just copy the files to the phone.
obviously android offers countless options in music, You can sync to the cloud with Google music, copy/paste over usb, mtp transfer with kies or media player, mount the phone as network drive via FTP, webdav, or other technique, play remote content over dlna or upnp or other options. not to mention the market apps. why in the hell are people working to make our device which is superior in this respect to work like the worst feature of the out dated and limited iPod with maybe the worst mtp application on the market.
why not explore the options that set android apart from the iPhone instead of atemting to use the things that limit the iphone. it doesn't make sense to me.
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Perfectly said. Itunes.. Smd. Lol.
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I found for Mac, isyncr works really well too. I had at of issues figuring out how to get my phone working with Mac software. Such a pain in the a$$. Especially when it comes to flashing roms (or trying to get back to stock) anyways isyncr worked like a charm rip get my music from iTunes to the phone
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Uninstalling itunes was one of the happiest days of my life.
Use Itunes and GMusic together
IMO ITunes is the best music manager for rating, tagging and searching. I use it to organize my music then point Google Music manager to upload the library.
BAM! Google Music has all my tracks with full info from ITunes. Now if Music had a better auto playlist generator....
iTunes was my primary reason for moving to Android.
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sugfawlo said:
Hey I have Double Twist, but this software is not seeing my memory card which is bigger than internal memory of My SGS II, is there any option which will allow me save my track there?
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FYI, I know on double twist's "airsync" app their is an option in settings to switch to external memory for saving music. It does warn that it is an experimental feature??
bella92108 said:
hehe, or you could just download DoubleTwist on your Mac\PC, and DoubleTwist on your Android phone and it'll do it all for you... playlists, organization, etc. Takes about 1 minute to get it started the first time, and it's all wireless and totally automated. Not sure why anyone would go through the OP's laundry list of instructions, haah.
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Thanks for the software recommendation, this will help save a lot of time.
Hi everyone,
I just bought my TF. I am just wondering if it is possible to sync my ipod with TF for the music. Does anyone know if u can transfer music onto my ipod using TF? is der any app like iTunes which I can use to add music to my iPod?
Thanks
vkas4u said:
Hi everyone,
I just bought my TF. I am just wondering if it is possible to sync my ipod with TF for the music. Does anyone know if u can transfer music onto my ipod using TF? is der any app like iTunes which I can use to add music to my iPod?
Thanks
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I don't have any Apple products or use iTunes myself but I highly doubt that you'll be able to perform a direct sync between your TF and your iPod (if that's what you're hoping to achieve) due to Apple's stance on copyrighted material. For example they deliberately disable file sharing on their iDevices via Bluetooth in a bid to combat piracy (e.g. music). Thus I would imagine there's a similar block of sorts in place with iTunes in terms of not being able to transfer stuff directly from iTunes onto a non-Apple product. Unless someone else can post a workaround of some description you might have to take a long-winded route to transfer the same stuff that's on your iPod/iTunes onto your TF.
If however you're asking about software that performs a similar function to iTunes but which is built for the TF, you could try downloading the Asus software from their website and see what it can do. I've never really used it before so I'm not entirely sure what it offers.
The only other thing I can suggest is to simply plug your TF into your computer, which should be detected as a mass storage device as long as you have the correct drivers installed. You can then simply click-and-drag your music from your chosen folder onto the TF's internal memory.
Hope this helps.
[EDIT]: Oh, 100th post .
the ipod music format will not play on the TF. If it is not copy protected (DRM) you can export to cd then load on tf. Now you see why they are so disliked. You bought the song and tbey still want to tell you what you can listen to it on.
I use iSyncr
It's specifically for getting your iTunes stuff, including smart playlists etc. onto an android device, it's two way as well. Works great and is well supported with regular updates.
Can't recall how much it was, but I've not regretted the purchase.
It's not exactly syncing with your iPod but only one step removed.
Cheers.
movingpixels said:
It's specifically for getting your iTunes stuff, including smart playlists etc. onto an android device, it's two way as well. Works great and is well supported with regular updates.
Can't recall how much it was, but I've not regretted the purchase.
It's not exactly syncing with your iPod but only one step removed.
Cheers.
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Does it work with the iTunes videos as well?
Thanks
Thanks jonitfcfan and Rumbleweed for ur reply. all I want to do is transfer music from TF to my iPod. I do not need the other way around. so I dont think the question of file format comes
@movingpixels: so can the iSyncr do this job? Just want to confirm before I purchase it. Thanks
Use doubletwist... I think it is free
http://www.doubletwist.com/
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the ipod music format will not play on the TF. If it is not copy protected (DRM) you can export to cd then load on tf. Now you see why they are so disliked. You bought the song and tbey still want to tell you what you can listen to it on.
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None of this is true. The iPod music formats are mp3/AAC, both of which play fine on the TF. Even iTunes music store purchases have been DRM-free for years now. You can drag your music onto the TF (or SD or MicroSD). You can also sync your iTunes library to Google Music or Amazon and access them through those sites (or through their associated apps).
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None of this is true. The iPod music formats are mp3/AAC, both of which play fine on the TF. Even iTunes music store purchases have been DRM-free for years now. You can drag your music onto the TF (or SD or MicroSD). You can also sync your iTunes library to Google Music or Amazon and access them through those sites (or through their associated apps).
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MP3 ? I thought that iTunes converted whatever audio you imported into M4A/AAC format before sending it to your iDevice?
drewgstevens said:
None of this is true. The iPod music formats are mp3/AAC, both of which play fine on the TF. Even iTunes music store purchases have been DRM-free for years now. You can drag your music onto the TF (or SD or MicroSD). You can also sync your iTunes library to Google Music or Amazon and access them through those sites (or through their associated apps).
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I learned long ago never argue with an expert. Try it yourself then decide.
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MP3 ? I thought that iTunes converted whatever audio you imported into M4A/AAC format before sending it to your iDevice?
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it does that by default but you can change that in the preferences.
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After some quick searching, I found no way to make my entire library available offline. I know that I can use the checkboxes to select individual artists/albums to make offline, but this is rather tedious.
I have a rather large library, and I add to it often. Is there any way to make everything available offline? Even something that would automatically check every box would be acceptable.
Thanks!
buuuuuump?
i'm not sure how you're syncing, but i'm using itunes
if i wanted to sync EVERYTHING, i'd make a playlist with all the tracks
and then scroll to playlists on the app and hold it and click make available offline
hope this helps!
If you want to make your entire collection available off-line, put your music on your SD card/MP3 player etc.
Well, I guess the point is to have auto sync, without using additional programs.
xxyxxyxyx1 said:
After some quick searching, I found no way to make my entire library available offline. I know that I can use the checkboxes to select individual artists/albums to make offline, but this is rather tedious.
I have a rather large library, and I add to it often. Is there any way to make everything available offline? Even something that would automatically check every box would be acceptable.
Thanks!
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Did you ever find a solution?
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Or even better, a way for all music to be automatically selected for offline listening.
What I want is a way to copy music files to my SD card without plugging it into my computer. In my perfect world, if I download one new song, I want it to just put it in the My Music folder (on my computer) and have it sync to a Music folder on my devices Ext SD card the next time my device has a data connection. After that, Play Music (or whatever media player I'm using) would just see it as a new file and import it into my Library.
Something like Google Drive would work great if I could just assign folders to sync rather than having a "Google Drive" folder and only syncing what is in there. And "cloud storage" is not completely necessary, just store it in the cloud long enough to sync to my other devices.
Google music automatically imports music from My Music (on my PC), it would be perfect if it automatically made all that music available offline on my phone and tablet.
Is there any app or solution that would help me?
Same situation
I'm currently still waiting for my library to upload, but once it's done I was assuming I can just make entire playlists available offline in one step.
Also any idea if they plan to allow change of destination folder, because I would need the library to save to my sd card instead of the built in memory of my GS3 (which samsung decided to idiodically name 'sdcard' and the external memory instead as 'extsdcard'... brilliant move samsung...)
Any update on this? It seems the new play music app makes it difficult to make all of your music available offline.
The whole point of Google music was to keep the music in the cloud and off the device. There is no way to do what the op wants as far as I know.
When my wife had her iPhone, she was regularly updating her music on it by setting up her iTunes playlists, plugging in her phone, and happily watching while it sync'd, seamlessly and painlessly.
Now she's got a Galaxy Note, and as yet does not have her music on it, and it's driving her nuts (fortunately she still has her iPhone to plug in in the car, or I'd never hear the end of it).
So far the closest approximation I've been able to find for Android is Winamp: IN THEORY, you install Winamp on your PC and an Android device, and you can then create your library and manage playlists in Winamp on the PC, and then sync over cable or WiFi to Winamp on the phone. Easy, right? Just like iTunes?
Except, well... it doesn't quite seem to be that easy. I've got Winamp to sync between my DHD and my laptop... TRIED to do it on her Note and had a royal runaround of failed transfers until I found a suggestion to delete and recreate the pairing... that seemed to do it, and I set up a nice big playlist of about 400 Christmas songs for her, and left it to sync overnight.
Or not. She went happily off to work the next morning... came home in the evening and informed me that she only had a dozen or so songs in one "Christmas Tunes" playlist, as well as another empty "Christmas Tunes" playlist. GAH.
I'm not expecting Winamp support here, I already have an account on the Winamp forums... what I'm looking for is something better. DLNA players won't do it - I mean, I do that on MY phone, because I have a 6GB data plan... her 1GB data plan won't withstand that for more than a week. No, I need something that will make it just as easy as iTunes to create her playlists on her laptop, and then sync them all to her Note, without a lot of farting around and troubleshooting and headaches and support-forum visits. It doesn't even have to do WiFi, since the first thing she usually does when she gets home is plug her Note into her laptop to charge.
Please, for the love of all things, and to save a marriage... someone point me at something that will accomplish this, that (and this is the important part) I won't have to babysit for her!
(PS. yes, I did see the "music players" thread in the Apps forum... there's only one other that appears to fit the bill, and I'm going to check that out, but I don't want to spend all my time installing different players on my phone and computer so I can figure out if they're going to work for hers... and seriously, "Find me an iTunes equivalent" has GOT to be a more common question than my forum searches would indicate!)
I don't know about playlists, but you can just drag and drop the files between phone and computer.
You can also export iTunes playlists and then drag that into the folder with the music, but since I no longer use iTunes, I would have to Google for the answer a bit more.
Pennycake said:
I don't know about playlists, but you can just drag and drop the files between phone and computer.
You can also export iTunes playlists and then drag that into the folder with the music, but since I no longer use iTunes, I would have to Google for the answer a bit more.
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I have just shy of 50,000 mp3s, many of them in "unknown" folder trees - very badly organized on the filesystem (I know, I know) but of course, easy to search in an app like Winamp or something else that reads the ID3 tags. Drag'n'drop won't work for her - this is a former iSheep we're talking about, remember
The last iTunes files died with her previous laptop too, so I don't have that to import (and that only included the very limited number of songs that were on her laptop anyway).
The one thing I really liked about iTunes was its "Keep library organized" feature, where if I edited anything in a song, it would automatically keep it sorted in an artist\album\songname.mp3 structure - I could highlight an artist's entire catalog, right-click, edit the artist name, and regardless of how scattered the files were, it would put the same name on all of them (amazing how many different ways people find to spell an artist's name), and plop them all into the same folder on the disk, using that name. I found Winamp lets me batch-edit, but it won't alter the file trees. I'm tempted to install iTunes on my desktop just to let it properly organize my filesystem.
I owned a Mac and an iPod once, but I had the capacity to learn something different when needed and desired.
Letting iTunes organise everything might be a good idea. I'm too finicky to let an artist's name be spelled multiple ways, I'd have a heart attack! I always made sure everything was correct from the get-go.
If you Google search a bit, there might be apps developed to sync with iTunes itself, even.
Have the same problem
Is there no good equivalent of iTunes for Android? How do people sync their music on pc with their android phone who use players like foobar2000, winamp etc. We do not want to sync entire music folders from PC to phone. Rather looking for something that can identify music file tags and let us select criteria for syncing with the phone.
Not sure why this thread is dead... couldn't find a solution on other threads.
I have a Galaxy S3 (9300), and an OTG cable that allows me to manage files on external media. Are there any apps out there that will enable me to manage music/playlists etc on an ipod shuffle via this route ? I would love to be able to ditch iTunes, and this is one of the last remaining things I need to solve!
I'd like to be able to sync music to my S3 using DoubleTwist, and then copy it over to my shuffle by playlist.
Do you leave the Shuffle away from home and need to be able to use the phone for this ? Just unsure why you couldn't just use the computer to do this ? Seems simpler than managing on the small phone screen (could you copy-and-paste as-is ?).
I've never used DoubleTwist, do they not support iPods ?
Does the Shuffle specifically need something that is more than the usual music management ? I've never had one, so I'm not sure and perhaps this is the problem I'm not seeing.
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Do you leave the Shuffle away from home and need to be able to use the phone for this ? Just unsure why you couldn't just use the computer to do this ? Seems simpler than managing on the small phone screen (could you copy-and-paste as-is ?).
I've never used DoubleTwist, do they not support iPods ?
Does the Shuffle specifically need something that is more than the usual music management ? I've never had one, so I'm not sure and perhaps this is the problem I'm not seeing.
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The Shuffle is the last ipod we have in the house, and I have migrated all of our music to Google Play Music. I would like to be able to ditch itunes totally. The files appear on the shuffle in a the right format, but the namings do not reflect the song titles. Also, I assume there must be a database on there to manage the playlists as there arent anything simple like .m3u files.
Since the Shuffle is so simple, it might be easier to just buy a cheap non-Apple MP3 player instead ($20-30).
I haven't used my iPod for a few months (I'm not even sure where it is), so I don't quite remember how it was set-up (and I never had a Shuffle). I'd check out, "manage iPod Shuffle without iTunes" or something. I use Winamp, and I think it can manage iPods, but I've never tried it (your music is still on the HDD, right ?).