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APP that supports WMP ratings?

I get ~500 new tracks per month and I heavily rely on Windows Media Player's 5-star rating system to keep track of the ones I liked/disliked. I'm looking for an app that has the ability to read AND add/edit the rating, aka ID3's "RATING WMP" tag, of mp3's that I will manually load onto sdcard. I've tried many different music apps but none fit the requirements... any suggestions?
Thanks!

I guess nobody knows and I'll have to figure this out myself... as always

ok, made some progress... found a way to seamlessly "sync" music libraries:
set up samba (windows) share on pc
used Mount Manager to mount that share on Evo as /sdcard/share/audio
reload media, all mp3s now show up in HTC Music as if they were physically on sdcard
ps: if i'm not on WiFi, just VPN into my home linux box and everything shows up as "local"
now all that's left is to find something that would write the ratings back into mp3s... i found this iSyncr app that does it but there are some quirks that needs to be worked out before its usable. will report back once that is done

wifi sync was a hassle and iSyncr froze my phone for 5 mins each time i remounted sdcard, and also wifi sync is much slower than traditional usb sync anyways so here's what i worked out instead:
set Songbird to monitor my "New songs" for mp3's
set Songbird to auto-sync music as soon sdcard is mounted to pc
unmount/eject and use PlayerPro to listed & rate music
once done, in PlayerPro, export song stats to xml (Settings > Media library >Export music stats > Songbird)
use Songbird's "RatingFile" addon to import ratings from that xml
since in Songbird i set 'songbird.metadata.ratings.enableWriting" to "true", it writes the new ratings to mp3's ID3 tag "RATING" field
use Mp3Tag macro to batch-move RATING field value to RATING WMP
viola... my new ratings now show up in WMP
long and tedious process but so far that's the only one where i managed to successfully sync new ratings back to WMP
PS: doubleTwist can do two-way ratings syncing WAAAAY easier with their AirSync addong but i haven't found a way to move the new ratings from doubleTwist to WMP... any ideas?

Did you ever come up with a clean solution to this problem? I have so much new incoming music all the time that it is a real pain to have to sit in front of my primary PC rating music all the time; it would be so nice if I could sync it to my phone or tablet, rate music as I drive, and then sync the ratings back to my computer...

get PlayerPro... that dev implemented the ability to read/write ratings to actual mp3 files. both WMP and MediaMonkey id3 rating system. then, to make sure the ratings are same on both your phone and your computer, install microsoft's SyncToy and set up a two-way folder sync.

frifox said:
get PlayerPro... that dev implemented the ability to read/write ratings to actual mp3 files. both WMP and MediaMonkey id3 rating system. then, to make sure the ratings are same on both your phone and your computer, install microsoft's SyncToy and set up a two-way folder sync.
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Thanks; I actually came across PlayerPro in the same search that returned your thread. The only problem I see is that I use WMP's autoplaylists to only sync 4 or 5 star rated items to my device. If I am using SyncToy to synchronize folders, that makes the whole dynamic rating thing kind of useless, doesn't it?

hmm, in my case i didn't have a need for dynamic playlists and PlayerPro fit the bill perfectly, so yeah, i'm not sure how you'd deal with syncing back the ratings from cell to pc... i manage my library using files and folders so i guess i lucked out here

I guess so. I have WMP setup to auto sort music into a folder structure that maps to Artist > Album > [Track Number] [Song Title], and then I only synchronize the songs I've rated 4 stars or higher. That way when it syncs to my car (using my phone as a storage drive), I can browse the file system by Artist, Album, etc., and I only have the songs I like synced up.

Great
Sick bro, love it.

SolusCado said:
I guess so. I have WMP setup to auto sort music into a folder structure that maps to Artist > Album > [Track Number] [Song Title], and then I only synchronize the songs I've rated 4 stars or higher. That way when it syncs to my car (using my phone as a storage drive), I can browse the file system by Artist, Album, etc., and I only have the songs I like synced up.
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Thanks for asking the question, I was looking for the same thing. Maybe I can help you out too. I don't know about the sync tool you use but MediaMonkey can sync songs based on dynamic playlists too. So you can create a playlist based on ratings (or more) and MM will sync it automatically. However you have to have the paid version but IMO it's worth the price.

octavia said:
Thanks for asking the question, I was looking for the same thing. Maybe I can help you out too. I don't know about the sync tool you use but MediaMonkey can sync songs based on dynamic playlists too. So you can create a playlist based on ratings (or more) and MM will sync it automatically. However you have to have the paid version but IMO it's worth the price.
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Does MediaMonkey add anything I don't already get with WMP?

many things... with folder-sync being one of them

EDIT: Tl;DR
PlayerPro can modify and read the Windows Media Player star rating.
I've verified that tracks with less than 4 stars are removed from my device. However, I expected to see more removals. I'll continue to update here
I had an issue with PlayerPro, the 'stars' (rating) disappeared from the top of the screen. I solved this by tapping the track picture in the center of the screen. The star rating on top of the screen reappears after that.
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Awesome threat.. Just got a Nokia 9, first Android phone
Same issue.
I manage my music with auto playlist and star rating since I had a HTC Wizard and Windows XP, I think
Anyway, PlayerPro seem the way to go.
The problem I now have is that I can't seem to change the star rating anymore, in PlayerPro.
This: https://www.aplayerpro.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3305
.. seem to be hopeful but alas. I'll continue the quest on a later day and update here.

[Q] sync my ipod with TF? iTunes?

Hi everyone,
I just bought my TF. I am just wondering if it is possible to sync my ipod with TF for the music. Does anyone know if u can transfer music onto my ipod using TF? is der any app like iTunes which I can use to add music to my iPod?
Thanks

vkas4u said:
Hi everyone,
I just bought my TF. I am just wondering if it is possible to sync my ipod with TF for the music. Does anyone know if u can transfer music onto my ipod using TF? is der any app like iTunes which I can use to add music to my iPod?
Thanks
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I don't have any Apple products or use iTunes myself but I highly doubt that you'll be able to perform a direct sync between your TF and your iPod (if that's what you're hoping to achieve) due to Apple's stance on copyrighted material. For example they deliberately disable file sharing on their iDevices via Bluetooth in a bid to combat piracy (e.g. music). Thus I would imagine there's a similar block of sorts in place with iTunes in terms of not being able to transfer stuff directly from iTunes onto a non-Apple product. Unless someone else can post a workaround of some description you might have to take a long-winded route to transfer the same stuff that's on your iPod/iTunes onto your TF.
If however you're asking about software that performs a similar function to iTunes but which is built for the TF, you could try downloading the Asus software from their website and see what it can do. I've never really used it before so I'm not entirely sure what it offers.
The only other thing I can suggest is to simply plug your TF into your computer, which should be detected as a mass storage device as long as you have the correct drivers installed. You can then simply click-and-drag your music from your chosen folder onto the TF's internal memory.
Hope this helps.
[EDIT]: Oh, 100th post .

the ipod music format will not play on the TF. If it is not copy protected (DRM) you can export to cd then load on tf. Now you see why they are so disliked. You bought the song and tbey still want to tell you what you can listen to it on.

I use iSyncr
It's specifically for getting your iTunes stuff, including smart playlists etc. onto an android device, it's two way as well. Works great and is well supported with regular updates.
Can't recall how much it was, but I've not regretted the purchase.
It's not exactly syncing with your iPod but only one step removed.
Cheers.

movingpixels said:
It's specifically for getting your iTunes stuff, including smart playlists etc. onto an android device, it's two way as well. Works great and is well supported with regular updates.
Can't recall how much it was, but I've not regretted the purchase.
It's not exactly syncing with your iPod but only one step removed.
Cheers.
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Does it work with the iTunes videos as well?

Thanks
Thanks jonitfcfan and Rumbleweed for ur reply. all I want to do is transfer music from TF to my iPod. I do not need the other way around. so I dont think the question of file format comes
@movingpixels: so can the iSyncr do this job? Just want to confirm before I purchase it. Thanks

Use doubletwist... I think it is free
http://www.doubletwist.com/

Rumbleweed said:
the ipod music format will not play on the TF. If it is not copy protected (DRM) you can export to cd then load on tf. Now you see why they are so disliked. You bought the song and tbey still want to tell you what you can listen to it on.
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None of this is true. The iPod music formats are mp3/AAC, both of which play fine on the TF. Even iTunes music store purchases have been DRM-free for years now. You can drag your music onto the TF (or SD or MicroSD). You can also sync your iTunes library to Google Music or Amazon and access them through those sites (or through their associated apps).

drewgstevens said:
None of this is true. The iPod music formats are mp3/AAC, both of which play fine on the TF. Even iTunes music store purchases have been DRM-free for years now. You can drag your music onto the TF (or SD or MicroSD). You can also sync your iTunes library to Google Music or Amazon and access them through those sites (or through their associated apps).
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MP3 ? I thought that iTunes converted whatever audio you imported into M4A/AAC format before sending it to your iDevice?

drewgstevens said:
None of this is true. The iPod music formats are mp3/AAC, both of which play fine on the TF. Even iTunes music store purchases have been DRM-free for years now. You can drag your music onto the TF (or SD or MicroSD). You can also sync your iTunes library to Google Music or Amazon and access them through those sites (or through their associated apps).
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I learned long ago never argue with an expert. Try it yourself then decide.

jonitfcfan said:
MP3 ? I thought that iTunes converted whatever audio you imported into M4A/AAC format before sending it to your iDevice?
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it does that by default but you can change that in the preferences.
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Tips on making the best of 10GB of storage space when storing music

Tips on making the best of 10GB of storage space when storing music on the HTC One S.
What doesn't work:
1) Dropbox, Google Drive ..... you can store files there but finding and playing them is a bag of hurt because the players are so rudimentary and the music is not cataloged like it is for stock Android player and PowerAMP
2) An OTG USB cable and a 32, 64 or 128GB USB Flash Drive. HTC could have saved this phone for music collections if they had implemented this feature, but they didn't. The microUSB port on the One S doesn't provide power, so for mobile listening of music it really isn't as option even it you hack OTG into your kernel.
3) Wifi based systems. With a bit of effort you could probably get a working system when your phone on your own home network, but chances are you use your phone for music when you are away from home.
The Good News:
The HTC One S has really fast internal memory, a good memory controller and the USB I/O is very fast. If you have a decent computer file transfer very quickly to the phone.
The HTC One S has very good audio quality and a good output.
What You Need
1) Your music collection, most likely quite a bit larger than 10GB
2) Media Monkey Software for your PC computer (http://www.mediamonkey.com) Forget about the HTC Sync software
3) PowerAmp for Android or Stock Android Player (PowerAMP has lyric support and is quite well laid out)
The reason I picked Media Monkey is that it has great cataloging features and a very powerful and customizable file sync with Android devices. My HTC Ones S shows up as a Hero but all the sync functions work. ( I have used this program for years) I am sure most of the other popular player software would work too
What to Do
The nature of the beast is that you are choosing which music to leave behind. If your music isn't cataloged then you can't possibly do this efficiently. This takes a lot of time and is best done as you get new music. You need at least the rating filled in for each track. I also have mood and tempo which really adds to your options. If you don't want to catalog then this advice isn't going to help you so you may as well stop here.
1) Catalog your music in Media Monkey (or other player software)
2) Plug in your HTC One and set to Disk Mode ...... it should show up as a HTC Hero
3) Using Media Monkey, set up a new collection filtered with for tracks having 5 star rating
Presumably you would only want to transfer your best tracks
If you have a smallish collection this may reduce the number of files sufficiently to fit on the HTC One S (skip to 4)
4) Set up another Collection filtered for being added to your library less than 30 days ago
Presumably you would like to listen to your new music
5) Click on the HTC Hero node on the library and select sync options.
6) Select only the above 2 collections for sync
7) Chances are that there are still way too many files to fit into 9GB, so select the option to randomly sync files to your device matching the above filters leaving about 500-1000GB left unused OR just manually pick the artists and albums you want to sync.
8) Autosync the phone (takes about 2 minutes for me)
9) Autosync again once in a while to get a new random set
You could tell Media Monkey to compress the files as they are moved to the player, but this hugely increases the time required for the sync and you may loose album art and lyric support depending on which format you pick.
It is far from a idea solution but it works

Sirandar said:
Tips on making the best of 10GB of storage space when storing music on the HTC One S.
What doesn't work:
1) Dropbox, Google Drive ..... you can store files there but finding and playing them is a bag of hurt because the players are so rudimentary and the music is not cataloged like it is for stock Android player and PowerAMP
2) An OTG USB cable and a 32, 64 or 128GB USB Flash Drive. HTC could have saved this phone for music collections if they had implemented this feature, but they didn't. The microUSB port on the One S doesn't provide power, so for mobile listening of music it really isn't as option even it you hack OTG into your kernel.
3) Wifi based systems. With a bit of effort you could probably get a working system when your phone on your own home network, but chances are you use your phone for music when you are away from home.
The Good News:
The HTC One S has very good audio quality and a good output.
What You Need
1) Your music collection, most likely quite a bit larger than 10GB
2) Media Monkey Software for your PC computer (http://www.mediamonkey.com) Forget about the HTC Sync software
3) PowerAmp for Android or Stock Android Player (PowerAMP has lyric support and is quite well laid out)
The reason I picked Media Monkey is that it has great cataloging features and a very powerful and customizable file sync with Android devices. My HTC Ones S shows up as a Hero but all the sync functions work. ( I have used this program for years) I am sure most of the other popular player software would work too
What to Do
The nature of the beast is that you are choosing which music to leave behind. If your music isn't cataloged then you can't possibly do this efficiently. This takes a lot of time and is best done as you get new music. You need at least the rating filled in for each track. I also have mood and tempo which really adds to your options. If you don't want to catalog then this advice isn't going to help you so you may as well stop here.
1) Catalog your music in Media Monkey (or other player software)
2) Plug in your HTC One and set to Disk Mode ...... it should show up as a HTC Hero
3) Using Media Monkey, set up a new collection filtered with for tracks having 5 star rating
Presumably you would only want to transfer your best tracks
If you have a smallish collection this may reduce the number of files sufficiently to fit on the HTC One S (skip to 4)
4) Set up another Collection filtered for being added to your library less than 30 days ago
Presumably you would like to listen to your new music
5) Click on the HTC Hero node on the library and select sync options.
6) Select only the above 2 collections for sync
7) Chances are that there are still way too many files to fit into 9GB, so select the option to randomly sync files to your device matching the above filters leaving about 500-1000GB left unused OR just manually pick the artists and albums you want to sync.
8) Autosync the phone (takes about 2 minutes for me)
9) Autosync again once in a while to get a new random set
You could tell Media Monkey to compress the files as they are moved to the player, but this hugely increases the time required for the sync and you may loose album art and lyric support depending on which format you pick.
It is far from a idea solution but it works
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Orr you can sync your music to Google Play and stream from there. IF you have the 2GB plan I almost never go over that, plus it only streams it the first play and stays in your cache for replay later. Best Solution for me, at least for Music. After that I have plenty of room for everything else and file With Drop Box and Box and Google Drive.

I usually just convert my files to ~40kbit (VBR quality 0.25) HE-AACv2 files. Unless you really really concentrate, you'll be hard pressed finding any difference between these files and CD quality. And I've got about 6,000 songs in under 7 GB.
I use dbPowerAmp for the conversion, and the Nero AAC codec.

djsubtronic said:
I usually just convert my files to ~40kbit (VBR quality 0.25) HE-AACv2 files. Unless you really really concentrate, you'll be hard pressed finding any difference between these files and CD quality. And I've got about 6,000 songs in under 7 GB.
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Holy jeebus, 40kbit and you cannot tell the difference? Time for some decent headphones or a hearing check!

edscholl said:
Holy jeebus, 40kbit and you cannot tell the difference? Time for some decent headphones or a hearing check!
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Dude, have you even tried HE-AACv2? That codec is pretty legendary. Of course you can tell the difference but it's very barely noticeable. Try it yourself.

djsubtronic said:
Dude, have you even tried HE-AACv2? That codec is pretty legendary. Of course you can tell the difference but it's very barely noticeable. Try it yourself.
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Yup. Very f'in noticeably different at 40kbps.

[Q] PC/Android music sync: there's gotta be a better way!

When my wife had her iPhone, she was regularly updating her music on it by setting up her iTunes playlists, plugging in her phone, and happily watching while it sync'd, seamlessly and painlessly.
Now she's got a Galaxy Note, and as yet does not have her music on it, and it's driving her nuts (fortunately she still has her iPhone to plug in in the car, or I'd never hear the end of it).
So far the closest approximation I've been able to find for Android is Winamp: IN THEORY, you install Winamp on your PC and an Android device, and you can then create your library and manage playlists in Winamp on the PC, and then sync over cable or WiFi to Winamp on the phone. Easy, right? Just like iTunes?
Except, well... it doesn't quite seem to be that easy. I've got Winamp to sync between my DHD and my laptop... TRIED to do it on her Note and had a royal runaround of failed transfers until I found a suggestion to delete and recreate the pairing... that seemed to do it, and I set up a nice big playlist of about 400 Christmas songs for her, and left it to sync overnight.
Or not. She went happily off to work the next morning... came home in the evening and informed me that she only had a dozen or so songs in one "Christmas Tunes" playlist, as well as another empty "Christmas Tunes" playlist. GAH.
I'm not expecting Winamp support here, I already have an account on the Winamp forums... what I'm looking for is something better. DLNA players won't do it - I mean, I do that on MY phone, because I have a 6GB data plan... her 1GB data plan won't withstand that for more than a week. No, I need something that will make it just as easy as iTunes to create her playlists on her laptop, and then sync them all to her Note, without a lot of farting around and troubleshooting and headaches and support-forum visits. It doesn't even have to do WiFi, since the first thing she usually does when she gets home is plug her Note into her laptop to charge.
Please, for the love of all things, and to save a marriage... someone point me at something that will accomplish this, that (and this is the important part) I won't have to babysit for her!
(PS. yes, I did see the "music players" thread in the Apps forum... there's only one other that appears to fit the bill, and I'm going to check that out, but I don't want to spend all my time installing different players on my phone and computer so I can figure out if they're going to work for hers... and seriously, "Find me an iTunes equivalent" has GOT to be a more common question than my forum searches would indicate!)

I don't know about playlists, but you can just drag and drop the files between phone and computer.
You can also export iTunes playlists and then drag that into the folder with the music, but since I no longer use iTunes, I would have to Google for the answer a bit more.

Pennycake said:
I don't know about playlists, but you can just drag and drop the files between phone and computer.
You can also export iTunes playlists and then drag that into the folder with the music, but since I no longer use iTunes, I would have to Google for the answer a bit more.
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I have just shy of 50,000 mp3s, many of them in "unknown" folder trees - very badly organized on the filesystem (I know, I know) but of course, easy to search in an app like Winamp or something else that reads the ID3 tags. Drag'n'drop won't work for her - this is a former iSheep we're talking about, remember
The last iTunes files died with her previous laptop too, so I don't have that to import (and that only included the very limited number of songs that were on her laptop anyway).
The one thing I really liked about iTunes was its "Keep library organized" feature, where if I edited anything in a song, it would automatically keep it sorted in an artist\album\songname.mp3 structure - I could highlight an artist's entire catalog, right-click, edit the artist name, and regardless of how scattered the files were, it would put the same name on all of them (amazing how many different ways people find to spell an artist's name), and plop them all into the same folder on the disk, using that name. I found Winamp lets me batch-edit, but it won't alter the file trees. I'm tempted to install iTunes on my desktop just to let it properly organize my filesystem.

I owned a Mac and an iPod once, but I had the capacity to learn something different when needed and desired.
Letting iTunes organise everything might be a good idea. I'm too finicky to let an artist's name be spelled multiple ways, I'd have a heart attack! I always made sure everything was correct from the get-go.
If you Google search a bit, there might be apps developed to sync with iTunes itself, even.

Have the same problem
Is there no good equivalent of iTunes for Android? How do people sync their music on pc with their android phone who use players like foobar2000, winamp etc. We do not want to sync entire music folders from PC to phone. Rather looking for something that can identify music file tags and let us select criteria for syncing with the phone.
Not sure why this thread is dead... couldn't find a solution on other threads.

[Q] Music sync between N5 and Mac

Hey guys!
I've got my N5 several months ago and I was to set up the GMusic service straight away.
At first, that was a perfect solution to do everything wirelessly and not to occupy the precious memory space (I have 20 Gigs of music for 32 GB phone. Sounds tough.)
Ever since I got my first iPod back in 2007, I was organizing my entire music library all neatly in iTunes, transferring that between numerous computers over time being.
Google Music manager works perfectly with uploading that, however, I got to know that this syncronisation is kind of "one way" only.
You only get to UPload the music from the computer and that's it.
If you delete something from your PC/Mac music library, or download some music on your phone, there is no way to sync it with Google.
Same happens, when you correct wrong tags in your music library (e.g. "Royksopp" to "Röyksopp"), it doesn't reflect whatsoever on Google or your phone.
So, after messing around with that a bit, I tried to come up with a solution like iTunes does with iPhones.
I personally haven't got any iPhone for years but they have iTunes Match for your music library to be stored in cloud and be easily manageable from your computer (I mean, if you delete it from your computer, you delete it from the cloud)
Unfortunately, all those ideas available (like do a dropbox folder sync to a GMusic) is nothing but useless.
Is there a way to kind of establish that all-ways PC <--> GMusic <--> Android syncronisation?
I mean, I am perfectly alright with switching services, players (let it not be iTunes and Google Music)...
Just tell me guys what did you come up with?

ioffer007 said:
Hey guys!
I've got my N5 several months ago and I was to set up the GMusic service straight away.
At first, that was a perfect solution to do everything wirelessly and not to occupy the precious memory space (I have 20 Gigs of music for 32 GB phone. Sounds tough.)
Ever since I got my first iPod back in 2007, I was organizing my entire music library all neatly in iTunes, transferring that between numerous computers over time being.
Google Music manager works perfectly with uploading that, however, I got to know that this syncronisation is kind of "one way" only.
You only get to UPload the music from the computer and that's it.
If you delete something from your PC/Mac music library, or download some music on your phone, there is no way to sync it with Google.
Same happens, when you correct wrong tags in your music library (e.g. "Royksopp" to "Röyksopp"), it doesn't reflect whatsoever on Google or your phone.
If you download music on your phone from Google play, it does add it to your library. But I think the strange thing is, you have to pin it on a playlist or something otherwise if you just hit "on device" it will be greyed out, or you have to manually add it to the phone.
For what it is worth, if you go to the labs section of settings inside chrome inside the google play music store (if you use it) you can drag and drop songs in the window and it will add them to the library.
So, after messing around with that a bit, I tried to come up with a solution like iTunes does with iPhones.
I personally haven't got any iPhone for years but they have iTunes Match for your music library to be stored in cloud and be easily manageable from your computer (I mean, if you delete it from your computer, you delete it from the cloud)
Unfortunately, all those ideas available (like do a dropbox folder sync to a GMusic) is nothing but useless.
Is there a way to kind of establish that all-ways PC <--> GMusic <--> Android syncronisation?
I mean, I am perfectly alright with switching services, players (let it not be iTunes and Google Music)...
Just tell me guys what did you come up with?
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I feel your pain, I think the Google Play Music app is severely limited. Maybe they will address this at their I/O conference next month I am a little confused but I think I know what you are saying.
You can edit info inside google play of your browser, just pick the song, click the three dots, and edit the info.
I may be shot for saying this but..... Sometimes I use iTunes, download the track, and upload it to my Google cloud. I also keep an external drive that I keep all my music in. You are able to add folders to the Google Music app to it will sync those to the cloud if you use say amazon, itunes etc.. My problem with google play music manager is that it continuously downloads the same songs for some reason and I have a lot of duplicates, I think it is a limitation of the manager.