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Can anyone confirm that this works on att network? Even on tmobiles website it says it supports the 850 band but i saw a report on engadget that they were having trouble connecting. Can anyone tell me if this phone has a locked bootloader? As of now i have an atrix but i would prefer vanilla android.
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It currently only supports ATT 2G. The hardware is capable of 3G but the bands are blocked out. There is some hope they can be enabled via a software fix, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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This is typical for carrier phones. Of course they don't want to sell a phone that works great with other carriers. The Phone supports the bands but the radio/software is blocking use (per Tmobile). It was already quoted that Tmobile will unlock the AT&T 3G once the merger goes through.
The bootloader is unlocked. We already have root and Clockwork Recovery setup on stock Android. LG has even already released the source for the kernel. CM7 is also already on the phone but not quite prime time.
Once custom roms are published, we'll be good to go. Coming from a Nexus One, I'm glad this phone is just as open.
I'm sure someone will unofficially enable the at&t 3G, just give it a little time.
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This is typical for carrier phones. Of course they don't want to sell a phone that works great with other carriers. The Phone supports the bands but the radio/software is blocking use (per Tmobile). It was already quoted that Tmobile will unlock the AT&T 3G once the merger goes through.
The bootloader is unlocked. We already have root and Clockwork Recovery setup on stock Android. LG has even already released the source for the kernel. CM7 is also already on the phone but not quite prime time.
Once custom roms are published, we'll be good to go. Coming from a Nexus One, I'm glad this phone is just as open.
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Source link?
Well no big deal anymore [email protected] I just cancelled my att plan and joined tmobile to get this phone
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The service manual clearly states that the phone only supports WCDMA FDD1(2100) and FDD4 (1700). Theres no mention of WCDMA FDD5(850) anywhere, not even in the block diagrams of the RF circuits.
How many posts do we need about this?
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How many posts do we need about this?
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Because theres 50 different theory's about this subject.
Sorry. I made this post before I looked through the forums. A mod can close this thread as its irrelevant
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OKAY so I decided to update this thread:
There are two versions of the One X. One with aws bands and one without. I have a device without AWS (I am about 80 % sure). There are reports of people getting 4g on AWS with the Rogers Version as of now, and more testers need to check it out as it could still be possible on ATT.
This flash here theoretically could enable the One X radio to lach onto AWS (The radios here are for the One S Ville.)
http://ville.giev.de/?page_id=42
I have flashed all three, and although I did not get 4g, I got faster ping and a near immediate connection onto T-mobile. To all the people saying this will "brick" the phone, it does not and you have nothing to worry. But as always make sure to do a backup. The radio hacks for the Skyrocket/Note were also based on flashing the Galaxy S2 radio directly on top. This should work the same.
I'm interested in this as well. What does is involved and the risk? I don't have warranty on my phone, so I'm a little bit leery in being first.
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I'm interested in this as well. What does is involved and the risk? I don't have warranty on my phone, so I'm a little bit leery in being first.
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if your rooted ull should be fine just make a back up of ur current set up. this is just a clockwork flash, it may not even flash, but if it does then there's a high chance of 4g.
i've done radio hacks before for the droid 3/skyrocket/note all from a similar concept. ex. flashing the t-mobile galaxy s2 radio on the note, to enable 4g.
if anyone could provide me with a better solution for an unlock i am sure i can get this to work. seems that the htc unlocker server is down right now
it's the same thing as flashing different radios via clockwork posted in the One X android dev forum
I'll give it a try, hopefully it won't mess anything up. So I just flash the radio in recovery. If no good, I just flash the correct radio again?
There is a one click no HTC Dev bootloader unlock in the Dev forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734558
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I flashed:
Radio from RUU_Ville_U_HTC_Europe_1.78.401.2 [Recommended] (update by rhcp)
0.16.31501S.17_2_10.23.31501S.10L
From your link. It flashed correctly. The phone on data and voice still works. I confirmed the version in Settings is not my original:
0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08L
I'm still on Edge, but I'm in a crappy cell area, so still not certain if radio or my area. I might give the:
Radio from Stock T-Mobile US (update by rhcp)
0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L
Radio a try too.
good to hear no negative results got my phone unlocked so i will be testing tonight. also do u guys have the newer sims or older ones?
I have an older sim I believe. It is one that came from an activation kit I bought off ebay. I tried the T-Mobile radio and same results, still on Edge, but still could be my location.
What in gods name are you guys doing! ? Are you trying to brick your phones? It's already been confirmed that the hardware on this phone does not support the proper bands for T-Mobile 3g!
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What in gods name are you guys doing! ? Are you trying to brick your phones? It's already been confirmed that the hardware on this phone does not support the proper bands for T-Mobile 3g!
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Prove it. Why would the phone soc be any different than the one s one.
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Prove it. Why would the phone soc be any different than the one s one.
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It's not just the SOC that determines hardware compatibility. There are various radio amplifiers and filters which are tuned to the specific frequencies that the phone is likely to encounter. If a phone is going to be sold in multiple markets, sometimes the hardware filters are set up for all frequencies and some are disabled via software, but often times this is not the case.
It's not impossible that a radio reflash can make it work, though highly improbable.
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Interested in this. There might be better luck flashing the tmo radio since I don't think any European operators use AWS bands, correct me if I'm wrong.
Can anyone explain why flashing this radio from a different device won't brick our phones?
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good to hear no negative results got my phone unlocked so i will be testing tonight. also do u guys have the newer sims or older ones?
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I have a tmobile one s, but i also have the one from att and i am so interested on using this phone over tmobile 4g let me know if i can of help. I am using my micro sim that came with the one s and i am getting edge (asume its the latest from tmobbile 4g mucro sim. I am on 1.85 rooted but i did not unlock. though i am sure we can flash through CWM. any ways i am sure there is a way out to get 3g or 4g on the one x on tmobile did not find the way yet.
flashed both of the t-mobile modems no luck for me either, although my ping is significantly higher and connects to t-mobile a LOT quicker.
does anyone know how to edit the LTE settings. it is odd but for most ATT LTE phones they have the 1700mhz frequency i think it would be a matter of just defaulting that....
the radios also show up in my baseband so i have successful flashes
EDIT: one more thing, before i was not able to use data at all considering i had the newer t-mobile sims but now data works but on edge speed.
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Interested in this. There might be better luck flashing the tmo radio since I don't think any European operators use AWS bands, correct me if I'm wrong.
Can anyone explain why flashing this radio from a different device won't brick our phones?
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it's just a file in your system. it could potentially brick your phone but you can always get into recovery and restore. which is why i stated you should create a back up of your device before trying it out.
however, i was fairly certain it wouldn't do that because the internals of the One S/One X are nearly identical, they both share the same processor and most likely similar (if not same, radios).
either way, the the radios work, getting me higher ping, and working data without having to switch out my sim for an older one, hope there is a way to activate the 1700 band !
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_at&t-4614.php
EDIT 2: apparently there are two models of the ATT One X/XL one with the 1700 band and one without
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flashed both of the t-mobile modems no luck for me either, although my ping is significantly higher and connects to t-mobile a LOT quicker.
does anyone know how to edit the LTE settings. it is odd but for most ATT LTE phones they have the 1700mhz frequency i think it would be a matter of just defaulting that....
the radios also show up in my baseband so i have successful flashes
EDIT: one more thing, before i was not able to use data at all considering i had the newer t-mobile sims but now data works but on edge speed.
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Likely the software has been changed to support T-Mobile, but the hardware (filters, amplifiers, etc) are non-existent, so you'll never get actual 1700 MHz AWS support.
Of course, this is just a 50,000 foot view perspective without actually trying it myself.
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sassafras_ said:
Likely the software has been changed to support T-Mobile, but the hardware (filters, amplifiers, etc) are non-existent, so you'll never get actual 1700 MHz AWS support.
Of course, this is just a 50,000 foot view perspective without actually trying it myself.
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you might be right about this one but there are certain One X/XL's that do have the 1700 band found out through some searching and trying to figure out the reason behind it.
If that's correct.... the people with the 1700 band would have 4g when they flash this radio! also use *#*#4636#*#* to change network type to lte/gsm
--- for other phones though like the Skyrocket/Note they were directly compatible with T-mobile radios.
Okay, I flashed the Tmo One S radio and did not receive a brick. What I did receive is a not-so-good connection that will switch between HSPA+ and 3G quite often.
I don't have a WIND sim to test with, but I tried running AT commands on my phone and they don't seem to be working. I tried doing a network scan with AT+COPS=? waited forever and had nothing displayed.
Strange...
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Rebooted and ran the commands again. Still don't see any AWS carriers.
uid=0 [email protected]:/ # +COPS: (1,"CAN Rogers Wireless Inc.","ROGERS","302720",7
),(2,"ROGERS","","302720",2),(1,"CAN Rogers Wireless Inc.","ROGERS","302720",0),
(1,"","","302220",2),(1,"","","302610",2),(1,"","","302610",7),(1,"","","302220"
,7),,(0,1,2,3,4),(0,1,2)
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Okay, I flashed the Tmo One S radio and did not receive a brick. What I did receive is a not-so-good connection that will switch between HSPA+ and 3G quite often.
I don't have a WIND sim to test with, but I tried running AT commands on my phone and they don't seem to be working. I tried doing a network scan with AT+COPS=? waited forever and had nothing displayed.
Strange...
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Rebooted and ran the commands again. Still don't see any AWS carriers.
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Don't you need a wind sim to connect im pretty sure the Canadian version will work on aws
Confirmed on my end that even with the T-Mobile radio, I'm not getting HSPA+. Even when I drove by the Moscone center where 1900Mhz was refarmed during Apple's WWDC (maybe it was just that day?). I was hoping this would be like the Note and Rocket where I can flash different radios.
Any other new phone capable of this? The S III? If not, I may have to either wait for 1900MHz refarm or switch to Straight Talk.
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Confirmed on my end that even with the T-Mobile radio, I'm not getting HSPA+. Even when I drove by the Moscone center where 1900Mhz was refarmed during Apple's WWDC (maybe it was just that day?). I was hoping this would be like the Note and Rocket where I can flash different radios.
Any other new phone capable of this? The S III? If not, I may have to either wait for 1900MHz refarm or switch to Straight Talk.
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Picking up an att s3 today to test it out. Most likely there's two versions of one x one with aws and one without. I know mine doesn't though.
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Don't you need a wind sim to connect im pretty sure the Canadian version will work on aws
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I'm not exactly sure of this one.
If someone is willing to let me cut up their WIND sim (or lend me their WIND microsim), I'll re-flash the tmo radio and meet you somewhere to test it (Toronto, please).
~dan
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Just popped in an old WIND sim that I used to test AWS connectivity at first. Saw WIND Away with the standard radio, and after flashing the Tmo radio I see WIND Away and AT&T (AT+COPS=? shows Rogers, ATT, Telus, Bell).
I live by the lake, that would explain why ATT shows up.
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Check this out http://imgur.com/Nb984,rUvM6. Not using the One S radio...
It's probably a silly question but I don't know how to check. I bought an HTC One X off ebay, it' s brand new and unlocked (but I can tell it used to be on orange.). I'm currently on O2 but thinking about switching so I can get 4G but I won't bother if my phone can't get it. So how do I know if it can use the 4G network?
Thanks in advance.
Assume you are talking LTE (although the official definition of "4G" was revised to include evolved forms of HSPA).
For LTE compatibility, you have to find the specs for the exact model of One X you have (which may get confusing) and find out what band/frequency of LTE the phone is compatible with. Don't confuse this with the GSM or HSPA bands, you've got to look for the LTE band.
Then you need to find the LTE band/frequency used by your carrier. If the LTE frequencies are the same (phone is compatible with your carrier's LTE network) and the phone is unlocked, it should work.
Keep in mind that frequency/band support is most usually set in hardware. So the phone has to be equipped (in hardware) with the correct band. No amount of radio flashing will change the LTE band.
Thanks for your help. So how do I find out the exact model of my phone?
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So how do I find out the exact model of my phone?
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And therein lies the challenge. Matching your phone to a model number or accurate specs is not an easy thing. Telling us what carrier version or country would be a good start.
Also, be sure to hit the "thanks" button for any of my posts that you find helpful.
Thanks! I'm on O2 pay as you go but I bought the phone unlocked from eBay, it was previously on the orange network. I'm in the UK and I'm pretty sure the phone is a UK model.
I can't find the thanks button on this app but ill be sure to press it when I check in on my laptop
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Hi, I recently got a HTC one X and a Three Sim. According to the network checker I'm in the ultra fast area, I don't ever seem to get a HSPA+ 21MBIT Signal, I'm using a app called Network Signal Info, the max it goes to is HSPA 14.4MBIT, I checked the specs on my phone and it does support HSPA+ 21MBIT.
Anyone know why I never get the HSPA+ signal/speed ? My brother on the same network in the same area gets HSPA+, he has a Samsung Note 2.
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Hi, I recently got a HTC one X and a Three Sim. According to the network checker I'm in the ultra fast area, I don't ever seem to get a HSPA+ 21MBIT Signal, I'm using a app called Network Signal Info, the max it goes to is HSPA 14.4MBIT, I checked the specs on my phone and it does support HSPA+ 21MBIT.
Anyone know why I never get the HSPA+ signal/speed ? My brother on the same network in the same area gets HSPA+, he has a Samsung Note 2.
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You want to make sure you have the right APN settings. Are you rooted or on stock software? I don't know how that career works, but for AT&T, different sim cards with differently. There are LTE sim cards, HSPA+, sim cards, or just plan EDGE sim cards. You want to make sure that is something as well. Can you provide a bit more information? HSPA is bascially the basic 3G service (at least here in the states). Also, what spectrum is that career using?
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You want to make sure you have the right APN settings. Are you rooted or on stock software? I don't know how that career works, but for AT&T, different sim cards with differently. There are LTE sim cards, HSPA+, sim cards, or just plan EDGE sim cards. You want to make sure that is something as well. Can you provide a bit more information? HSPA is bascially the basic 3G service (at least here in the states). Also, what spectrum is that career using?
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Hi, thanks for your reply, I've checked the APN settings and they seem fine, I'm using the stock firmware (Android 4.1). My other brother who's on Tmobile has a HTC one S, he gets the HSPA+ 21, i put his sim in my one X and it doesn't go above HSPA 14.4, he tried my sim in his and he get hspa+ 21, so it seems the issue is with the phone.
I'm about to do a factory reset, hopefully that'll sort it out, if not i'm going to have to contact HTC.
I still don't know of you are rooted or not. You may want to ruu to determine if it is a hardware issue. If not then contact HTC.
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Herc08 said:
I still don't know of you are rooted or not. You may want to ruu to determine if it is a hardware issue. If not then contact HTC.
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Hi the phone isn't rooted. The Reset didn't work, sent a email to HTC. I really don't want to root the phone, will wait and see what HTC say.
Alright then. Not going to advise rooting. If you have the 3.18 software then I don't know what could be the reason.
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Alright then. Not going to advise rooting. If you have the 3.18 software then I don't know what could be the reason.
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My software number is 3.14.401.31.
HTC Replied saying:
"Thank you for contacting HTC regarding your HTC One X.
My name is X and I am a Technical Support Agent for the HTC Written Team.
I'm sorry to hear that you are experiencing difficulties with accessing HSPA+ on your device.
In regards with this, there is no network within the UK that supports any speed above 14.4MB using HSPA. If there has been a carrier modification applied to allow DCHSDPA then it may be possible although the HTC One X and HTC One S do not support this.
If it is the HTC One SV then this would allow DCHSDPA to function if the modification has been applied by your network provider."
So how can they explain why others get HSPA+ and I don't? an inferior phone (HTC ONE S) gets HSPA+ with my sim but I don't, even with the sim's swapped i still don't get HSPA+ 21mbit.
Couldn't tell you. But you have the international one x, so this is the wrong forums for you.
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I know this is not officially supported, but does anyone know if this will work with a Verizon SIM? I know in the past, CDMA radios were required for Calls and Texts, but with VoLTE, shouldn't CDMA be unnecessary at this point? Can someone try throwing a Verizon SIM in it and see if it will work. I'm trying to find a Note 7 replacement here. The rest of the Verizon phones SUCK.
I'm really wondering about this too. I'd jump from my S7 Edge to this if it could really work. lol
Oh yeah, if any of you Xperia XZ owners could be so helpful in using this tool from the Verizon website: https://www.verizonwireless.com/bring-your-own-device/. I think this would help see if we could use the XZ on Verizon network. If any of you guys do it, can you post screenshots (blacking out any private info if you may), I'd really appreciate it!
Verizon uses CDMA which Xperia phones so not support. They only do GSM. I suspect a Verizon sim card would not find coverage in an XZ.
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Verizon uses CDMA which Xperia phones so not support. They only do GSM. I suspect a Verizon sim card would not find coverage in an XZ.
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But there is LTE support. If you have an XZ in your possession, can you try using the tool in the link I provided to see if it works?
To be able to use VoLTE, you will need to enable HD Voice or Advanced HD feature for your line and also the person you call has to have to same feature enabled. Both callers need to be in LTE coverage areas for VoLTE works.
So it isn't always working for you if you don't have CDMA capable phones.
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All voice calls still go through the CDMA network UNLESS, you are on Verizon and have HD voice enabled on your phone. I
know, Verizon is still using 800 CDMA in almost every cell site. This this is so VZ customers can call other carriers..
This became very apparent a few months ago when Verizon had a CDMA network outage on the west coast and we could only call people with in Verizon that had HD Voice, no one else.
If the XZ does not support CDMA (can someone confirm?) that would mean NO "Cell Network " phone calls. Data should work fine if the XZ supports LTE 700 c, 1700 f, 1900
Kinda getting tired of this, I really wanted an S7 Active and now the XZ.
One of these days I am going to jump ship. I. just have a bit of "data coverage anxiety" is the only thing holding me back...
The reason Verizon keeps their CDMA network because they still have 3g devices which are CDMA only.
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The reason Verizon keeps their CDMA network because they still have 3g devices which are CDMA only.
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Yes but, not necessarily the reason why VZ is keeping CDMA.
3G (1900Mhz CDMA) will begin to get faced out sometime next year. This is not a secret, it's actually common knowledge. In fact, some areas already don't have 3G coverage.
(800Mhz CDMA) Voice will stay at least for 2017. This is because VZ's VoLTE aka VoIP is not quite ready to go.
Some guy already tried using a VZ SIM on a Xperia XZ, didn't work.
Search YouTube for: "Sony Xperia XZ Verizon CDMA Test"
CDMA faced out all over the world last year except VZW. Some areas do not have 3g coverage doesn't mean there is no CDMA network there. There is a lot of VZW basic (CDMA) devices in the market now.
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https://youtu.be/8RZxQDqunkM
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https://youtu.be/8RZxQDqunkM
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For this guy, it could be the first time he tried unlocked phone.
At least he need to add APN settings for Verizon network first. It's not gonna work what so ever since unlocked phones do NOT have it.
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For this guy, it could be the first time he tried unlocked phone.
At least he need to add APN settings for Verizon network first. It's not gonna work what so ever since unlocked phones do NOT have it.
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If you're not connecting to a tower, I don't think APN settings are going to help you.
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If you're not connecting to a tower, I don't think APN settings are going to help you.
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Of course you don't however, didn't that phone connect to the network briefly at start up, did it? Also it's only video so it can't prove xz doesn't work with VZW. It's my opinion even though I'm not with VZW.
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Of course you don't however, didn't that phone connect to the network briefly at start up, did it? Also it's only video so it can't prove xz doesn't work with VZW. It's my opinion even though I'm not with VZW.
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Just to be clear; that's not my video. I'm no expert either but I really don't think APN settings would cause the tower to drop connection. AFAIK APN settings are just for data and MMS services.
I understand it's not your video and you knew APN is for data and mms. However, you forgot that in mean time, most VZW devices use CDMA for voice until they introduced HD voice (VoLTE) to have both voice and data work at the same time.
So without correct APN settings, nothing is gonna work including voice for non-cdma devices.
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Better late than never...
But yes. I am up and running on LTE+ right now. I would post a screen shot... But I don't know how
Can you help me?
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But yes. I am up and running on LTE+ right now. I would post a screen shot... But I don't know how
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I saw your post also on the verizon regarding the XZ working with it. That's cool man! I bought the XZ based on the LTE network which I was betting that it would work but no good. I currently have a z3v working with HD calls and stuff so that's why I believed that XZ would work.
Thank you in advance!
APN configuration
Hi! I found out this configuration on a Google search claiming that XZ works with verizon.
Just Google for
1587_13_verizon_apn_settings_for_sony_xperia_xz
On "apn gishan net" and you will find out. I will try it as soon as I arrive on my vacation destination (currently driving)... Lol
Not that simple...
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Hi! I found out this configuration on a Google search claiming that XZ works with verizon.
Just Google for
1587_13_verizon_apn_settings_for_sony_xperia_xz
On "apn gishan net" and you will find out. I will try it as soon as I arrive on my vacation destination (currently driving)... Lol
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Well I did the setup but I wasn't able to get it work. @MpV35;73223832 can you please share the info that you got on the tier2 verizon help-desk? (I saw your comments on the verizon community)
Thank you one more time