[Q] Using a cut-down sim to keep unlimited data - Verizon HTC One (M8)

My M8 arrives today and I'm hoping to activate it without losing my unlimited data. I'm month-to-month and I purchased it subsidized from the HTC website as "upgrade-keep my existing plan" which, by what appears to be an oversight, didn't make me chose a new data plan. Long story short, I plan to put the sim card from my Rezound into the M8 before I ever turn it on because apparently the new sim is provisioned for a capped plan and activating it will switch me from unlimited. My problem is that the Rezound takes a regular (mini) sim while the M8 takes a nano. I have a sim cutter also arriving today and I'm concerned about screwing up my sim in the process of cutting it. That's where my questions come from.
1. Is there much risk to cutting a regular sim to nano using one of these cutters (noosy 3rd gen)? It gets great reviews and has an image (for what that's worth) of being higher quality.
2. I have an old unactivated sim from an Asurion replacement Rezound. If I screw up my current sim cutting it down, will this older (but still unactivated) sim work in my phone and retain my unlimited data plan (same plan as when I got the replacement many months ago)?
3. Can I just go into a Verizon store with my new phone and say the sim doesn't work and get a new nano sim provisioned to my current unlimited data account, even though my "current" phone on their system is a rezound with a regular sim?

cntryby429 said:
My M8 arrives today and I'm hoping to activate it without losing my unlimited data. I'm month-to-month and I purchased it subsidized from the HTC website as "upgrade-keep my existing plan" which, by what appears to be an oversight, didn't make me chose a new data plan. Long story short, I plan to put the sim card from my Rezound into the M8 before I ever turn it on because apparently the new sim is provisioned for a capped plan and activating it will switch me from unlimited. My problem is that the Rezound takes a regular (mini) sim while the M8 takes a nano. I have a sim cutter also arriving today and I'm concerned about screwing up my sim in the process of cutting it. That's where my questions come from.
1. Is there much risk to cutting a regular sim to nano using one of these cutters (noosy 3rd gen)? It gets great reviews and has an image (for what that's worth) of being higher quality.
2. I have an old unactivated sim from an Asurion replacement Rezound. If I screw up my current sim cutting it down, will this older (but still unactivated) sim work in my phone and retain my unlimited data plan (same plan as when I got the replacement many months ago)?
3. Can I just go into a Verizon store with my new phone and say the sim doesn't work and get a new nano sim provisioned to my current unlimited data account, even though my "current" phone on their system is a rezound with a regular sim?
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I had the droid DNA before the m8. The DNA wasn't a nano SIM and I use the SIM cutter. I was able to use the SIM and kept my unlimited data.
You can go to the store and request a new SIM.
My All New One

Just go to a Verizon store (a corporate one) and ask for a nano SIM.
There is no charge for it. There is no change to your plan for asking for a new SIM, any kind of SIM.

MultiDev said:
Just go to a Verizon store (a corporate one) and ask for a nano SIM.
There is no charge for it. There is no change to your plan for asking for a new SIM, any kind of SIM.
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do this. theres no charge if its a corporate store, but "authorized retailers" will charge you for it. if you want to take your nano sim and use it for a mini or micro sim device, just buy an adapter off amazon (~$6)

MultiDev said:
Just go to a Verizon store (a corporate one) and ask for a nano SIM.
There is no charge for it. There is no change to your plan for asking for a new SIM, any kind of SIM.
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This. I've kept unlimited through all 3 sized SIM cards. It has NOTHING to do with data caps or anything. You can also go on the website to activate, and when its time to enter SIM card info select 'Send me a SIM Card' to avoid going into the store.

Well now I feel silly for even ordering the sim cutter. I thought I was being proactive. Thanks for the prompt replies.

Could you let us know if this works and you get to keep your unlimited data?

Nevermore said:
Could you let us know if this works and you get to keep your unlimited data?
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switching sim cards wont cause you to lose unlimited data. its only if you change your plan or use an upgrade. SIM cards are just tied to a line.

Abe21599 said:
switching sim cards wont cause you to lose unlimited data. its only if you change your plan or use an upgrade. SIM cards are just tied to a line.
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The new SIMs are to support nfc for Isis. I just changed my SIM in my m7 to the nfc SIM. I have unlimited data, but it doesn't effect your data at all

jessbowring said:
The new SIMs are to support nfc for Isis. I just changed my SIM in my m7 to the nfc SIM. I have unlimited data, but it doesn't effect your data at all
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I was talking about ordering from HTC's website subsidized and being able to keep unlimited data by swapping sims. Best Buy recently closed this workaround.

Nevermore said:
Could you let us know if this works and you get to keep your unlimited data?
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Sure thing. I think some folks may have missed that I kinda did use my upgrade insofar as I received the m8 at the subsidized price for extending my contract. I noticed just this morning that the VZW website has already changed my contract end date to 2016, "my device" is still the Rezound (I assume that'll change once I turn on my m8 with a SIM provisioned to my current unlimited account), and it still shows unlimited with my data usage. Fingers crossed.

cntryby429 said:
Sure thing. I think some folks may have missed that I kinda did use my upgrade insofar as I received the m8 at the subsidized price for extending my contract. I noticed just this morning that the VZW website has already changed my contract end date to 2016, "my device" is still the Rezound (I assume that'll change once I turn on my m8 with a SIM provisioned to my current unlimited account), and it still shows unlimited with my data usage. Fingers crossed.
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I have the exact same issue, Rezound to M8, but the problem for me was everywhere I go they want me to select a plan, where can I bypass this?

Once that phone is activated, your plan will change.
You will have 14 days to go back to unlimited.
You didn't find a loophole.

tech_head said:
Once that phone is activated, your plan will change.
You will have 14 days to go back to unlimited.
You didn't find a loophole.
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it can be done.....

tech_head said:
Once that phone is activated, your plan will change.
You will have 14 days to go back to unlimited.
You didn't find a loophole.
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I have it on good authority that it worked only a month ago from a Rezound to a One Max. It's not an m8 but it is a different sim size (mini to micro). I'm not saying it WILL work. I won't be convinced of that until a receive a bill with a whole month on the new contract with unlimited data, but I have reason to believe it MAY work and it seems worth trying...

I went to the Verizon store and bought the phone outright. Coming from a note 2 with a micro Sim to a m8 with a nano sim, I was worried. However I went on the phone with a customer service agent and they assured me that my unlimited data was going to be safe as long as I wasn't using an upgrade and paying full price for the phone. Sure enough there wasn't any issues keeping my unlimited data so I'm happy. Only issue I have is the phone says it's roaming when its not.
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I just got my m8 today....I used some scissors a template and a YouTube video for reference...I cut my sim from my rezound and swapped it for the one that came with the phone. I ordered mine thru HTC with my new every 2. Didn't have to change my plan when buying and after powering on the m8 with my cut sim....it activated successfully and all is good. My data is unlimited and my contract says 2016 now.
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cntryby429 said:
Sure thing. I think some folks may have missed that I kinda did use my upgrade insofar as I received the m8 at the subsidized price for extending my contract. I noticed just this morning that the VZW website has already changed my contract end date to 2016, "my device" is still the Rezound (I assume that'll change once I turn on my m8 with a SIM provisioned to my current unlimited account), and it still shows unlimited with my data usage. Fingers crossed.
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How did it turn out for you?
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Djay1809 said:
How did it turn out for you?
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It seems to have turned out beautifully. My M8 has been on for 3 days now and VZW still shows two more years under contract with unlimited data retained. I got ballsy and even went into the verizon store with my M8 activated on my cut sim. I asked for a new sim so that NFC would work. The guy looked a little puzzled when he pulled out my ghetto sim, In hindsight I should have taken it out before just to stay under the radar. The only reason it took 20 min vs 2 min was because the guy was trying to put the new sim into the SD card tray. My preliminary advice is get it while you can. The Best Buy website forces you to select a plan so the HTC website will surely be fixed soon.

I currently have the m8 still in my 14 day window, gave up unlimited data to get this phone. Thinking about going tomorrow to return it and order off HTC's store (currently 150$). Just hope that it won't ask to change my plan on HTC's page...

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[Q] AT&T One X micro sim activation

Coming from an Inspire 4G, I have a regular size sim chip. I'm handy with an Xacto and sanding stick, so on friday when my One X comes, should I cut my sim to fit, or just take it into the store and get a micro sim? Or is there a difference between an LTE micro sim and a '4G' regular sim? Also, what exactly does AT&T charge an activation fee for?
rushwal said:
Coming from an Inspire 4G, I have a regular size sim chip. I'm handy with an Xacto and sanding stick, so on friday when my One X comes, should I cut my sim to fit, or just take it into the store and get a micro sim? Or is there a difference between an LTE micro sim and a '4G' regular sim? Also, what exactly does AT&T charge an activation fee for?
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There is a difference between a 4G sim and an LTE sim. If you want LTE, you need a new card. If you don't care, go ahead and trim yours to fit, if you think you can do it right. There is technically no need to make any changes to your plan in order to switch to a new phone, or even make the carrier aware that you're doing it on a GSM network.
Whether that violates AT&T policy, and what the consequences of that are, is a separate issue. That you may want to look into.
It should come with a new sim card. The activation fee is you paying for the privilege of AT&T allowing you to continue using their service with new equipment for the next 2 years. Call customer care when it hits your bill. You should be able to get it removed.
Your OneX will come with a new AT&T microSIM in the box (AT&T always does that). You simply call in and activate that SIM instead of messing with your old SIM. The reason you need to call in is to make sure they updated your data plan to LTE plan. Without this step, you won't get any data connection on LTE.
$36 fee is just that, a fee. It covers above mentioned task if you do call. Otherwise, it is just another way for AT&T to make a few buck$ off you.
DannySmurf said:
There is a difference between a 4G sim and an LTE sim. If you want LTE, you need a new card. If you don't care, go ahead and trim yours to fit, if you think you can do it right.
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I've heard that as long as your current at&t sim card has a "25" as the ninth and tenth digits printed on it, it's LTE capable. So, cutting it down and popping it in the One X should be fine if it has these digits. But yeah, you'll probably still need to call them so they can add your IMEI number to your account.
Although, you could always just go to your local store and get a new sim for free once you get your phone if you're like me and aren't ordering it through at&t!
I want to call and ask them to remove my activation fee, do I have to make some sob story about not being able to afford it or something? Or can I just ask them to take it off, and how should I approach that?
If you were out of contract, the TOS allows you to cancel within 30 days without an ETF. Be sure to mention that to them and then say you would consider such a thing if this activation fee which seems unnecessary is not waived.
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hokiesteve said:
I've heard that as long as your current at&t sim card has a "25" as the ninth and tenth digits printed on it, it's LTE capable. So, cutting it down and popping it in the One X should be fine if it has these digits. But yeah, you'll probably still need to call them so they can add your IMEI number to your account.
Although, you could always just go to your local store and get a new sim for free once you get your phone if you're like me and aren't ordering it through at&t!
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Yeah... my shipped email says it is coming with a new sim card, so at the least, I'll have a template for cutting it down. I'm 100+ miles from the nearest LTE market, so I might try that first.
What does AT&T need my IMEI number for? Just curious if that's just one piece of information that they want, but don't really need... but gives them one more hook into me.

What happens if i don't activate new SIM

I just bought a HOX from amazon wireless and while trying to get the LTE working i was told by the AT&T representative that i need to activate the new SIM that i got with it for LTE to work. This got me thinking...what happens if i don't do that and keep using my old SIM? Will me contract not renew? Will amazon charge me a large termination fee?
Has anyone gotten LTE to work with their old SIM?
I put my Atrix 2 sim in the HTC after cutting it down. worked fine once i called AT&T to have them modify my data plan for LTE. if you're in an HSPA area only, it should just start working.
altezza2k2 said:
This got me thinking...what happens if i don't do that and keep using my old SIM? Will me contract not renew? Will amazon charge me a large termination fee?
Has anyone gotten LTE to work with their old SIM?
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No, it doesn't matter. Your upgrade is done once amazon ships you the phone. Activate the new SIM or use the old SIM has no effect on this. Amazon will make sure to see it go through in order for it to be paid by AT&T.
However, depends on the age of your old SIM, you may not be able to access LTE from some old SIM cards. You also need to make sure your data plan is properly updated to the LTE plan.

T-Mobile Plan

Hope this is the right place to post ..
I used their prepaid plan about three months ago to test out their service for a month but never saw that unlimited, 5 GB plan for $30. I signed on for the $50 plan. My contract with Verizon ends next month and I plan on switching.
I noticed it says new activations only, so I can't do that anymore?
I still have my sim card from them, I just haven't refilled it. Can I just deactivate my current account and buy another sim card from them? Or since my family are all deciding to switch, just give them my simcard + phone and buy a new one?
Nawzlew said:
I still have my sim card from them, I just haven't refilled it. Can I just deactivate my current account and buy another sim card from them? Or since my family are all deciding to switch, just give them my simcard + phone and buy a new one?
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Either.
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Currently on S4 with unlimited data..

Currently on S4 with unlimited data....is it worth losing unlimited to get the S6 right now?
was goign to do edge (have a few other phones on plan), but mine is still unlimited right now...
My monthly would be pretty much identical....but with shared 8 GB. Other phones barely use data...
Thanks in advance!!!
If you're in the US, just get an S6 at Best Buy and either get a BB credit card or use their payment plan to get it off contract. It's basically the same as getting the edge contract and you get to keep your unlimted data.
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If I use edge....they do give you a credit of 25 bucks every month.
Hmm.....If I'm bringing my own device....shouldn't they be reducing my monthly?
docluv01 said:
Currently on S4 with unlimited data....is it worth losing unlimited to get the S6 right now?
was goign to do edge (have a few other phones on plan), but mine is still unlimited right now...
My monthly would be pretty much identical....but with shared 8 GB. Other phones barely use data...
Thanks in advance!!!
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There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
docluv01 said:
If I use edge....they do give you a credit of 25 bucks every month.
Hmm.....If I'm bringing my own device....shouldn't they be reducing my monthly?
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Yes. I continue to bring my own phone so I'm considered month to month. Therefore I get a $25 discount.
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deranger said:
There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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I think I've read through that entire thread like 5 times, so much good info in there.
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WOW!!!
Thank you!
deranger said:
There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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Hi, SO by using the BB method, you kept the UDP, but you were extended out by 2 yrs?
On my family plan, I also have a basic line that is upgradeable. It seems that if I use one of those methods...I don't get stuck on 2 yr on the basic plan, but also, dont get stuck on 2 yr plan on my UDP. Do you know this to be true? I've read multiple.....can't seem to figure that part out...
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There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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docluv01 said:
Hi, SO by using the BB method, you kept the UDP, but you were extended out by 2 yrs?
On my family plan, I also have a basic line that is upgradeable. It seems that if I use one of those methods...I don't get stuck on 2 yr on the basic plan, but also, dont get stuck on 2 yr plan on my UDP. Do you know this to be true? I've read multiple.....can't seem to figure that part out...
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Yes. I paid subsidized pricing ($299 for 64 GB S6) and my contract end date was pushed out 2 years, while keeping my Nationwide 700 plan with unlimited data. Depending on what method you use, you will extend your contract out another two years. Being on contract with unlimited data is a GOOD thing. If you're off contract, they can drop your unlimited data anytime for any reason. If you're on contract, dropping your UDP would mean they broke the contract, and thus they would be forfeiting the early cancellation fees, which is a significant chunk of money for a subsidized S6. Read that first post all the way through a couple times, figure out which method works for your situation, and then read those instructions like 10 times. There are different optimal strategies to keep your UDP depending on what your plan looks like.
edit: Best Buy is also running a $100 gift card promotion for Verizon upgrades to S6, just got mine today. Subsidized pricing, $100 to spend at BB, and I still kept my UDP, simply amazing.
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There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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Remember the SIM you have in your S4 WILL NOT fit in the S6
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chrisj22 said:
Remember the SIM you have in your S4 WILL NOT fit in the S6
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It's trivial to print out a template, mark your cuts in permanent marker, and cut it down to size with a pair of good scissors. Some sandpaper for fine tuning (or careful work with sharp, sturdy scissors) was all I needed to make it fit perfectly. You can also purchase a SIM cutter tool from Amazon for <$10 if you don't trust yourself hacking up your SIM. Take note that you should not go to a Verizon corporate store and ask for a new SIM as they will notice the pending equipment activation on your account and most likely drop your UDP. People have had luck paying an authorized retailer for a new SIM, there should be examples in the earlier linked Slickdeals thread. Really though, it's quite simple to cut down the SIM with scissors so long as you take your time and don't overcut it. The actual chip is tiny, what you see on the outside are just contacts.
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It's trivial to print out a template, mark your cuts in permanent marker, and cut it down to size with a pair of good scissors. Some sandpaper for fine tuning (or careful work with sharp, sturdy scissors) was all I needed to make it fit perfectly. You can also purchase a SIM cutter tool from Amazon for <$10 if you don't trust yourself hacking up your SIM. Take note that you should not go to a Verizon corporate store and ask for a new SIM as they will notice the pending equipment activation on your account and most likely drop your UDP. People have had luck paying an authorized retailer for a new SIM, there should be examples in the earlier linked Slickdeals thread. Really though, it's quite simple to cut down the SIM with scissors so long as you take your time and don't overcut it. The actual chip is tiny, what you see on the outside are just contacts.
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Or being I believe he was getting the phone online from the carrier it will come with a SIM Preloaded in the phone
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Or being I believe he was getting the phone online from the carrier it will come with a SIM Preloaded in the phone
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You're not reading the thread at all. If you turn on the phone with the SIM from Best Buy in it, you will instantly lose UDP and not be able to get it back. You MUST destroy the new SIM before you initially power on the phone (even initial charging) when doing this method of getting a subsidized upgrade without losing your unlimited data. If the phone comes on at all, Verizon reads the new SIM as being activated, and your unlimited data is gone forever . It is crucial to take out and destroy the new SIM ASAP.
Does this work with upgrading from a S3? Meaning, will the SIM from a S3 work after trimming?
Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
docluv01 said:
Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
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I believe you can, but it would be easier to walk into a Verizon corporate store and get it there for free on the spot. Did it a couple weeks ago no issue coming from an s5.
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docluv01 said:
Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
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Sure, but why not do the BB method and get it at subsidized pricing? You also get the benefit of being on contract, which means if they kill your UDP (which they are free to do at any time), they will have to let you out of the early termination fee. You could also walk into a VZW corporate store and buy an S6 at full price to keep your unlimited, but be aware that VZW has the right to kill your UDP at any time should they feel the need to do so.
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Does this work with upgrading from a S3? Meaning, will the SIM from a S3 work after trimming?
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To be able to cut down your SIM for the S6, you must currently have a 4G LTE SIM. I personally never owned an S3 so I am not sure if you have a 4G LTE SIM in it or not. If you do, simply do the BB method and trim your SIM. If not, there are methods to get around this, check the thread I linked earlier.
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Yes. I paid subsidized pricing ($299 for 64 GB S6) and my contract end date was pushed out 2 years, while keeping my Nationwide 700 plan with unlimited data. Depending on what method you use, you will extend your contract out another two years. Being on contract with unlimited data is a GOOD thing. If you're off contract, they can drop your unlimited data anytime for any reason. If you're on contract, dropping your UDP would mean they broke the contract, and thus they would be forfeiting the early cancellation fees, which is a significant chunk of money for a subsidized S6. Read that first post all the way through a couple times, figure out which method works for your situation, and then read those instructions like 10 times. There are different optimal strategies to keep your UDP depending on what your plan looks like.
edit: Best Buy is also running a $100 gift card promotion for Verizon upgrades to S6, just got mine today. Subsidized pricing, $100 to spend at BB, and I still kept my UDP, simply amazing.
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What you said above is actually not true, unless BB gives you a different print out and does things differently. As for the way Verizon does things, The contract terms you are signing up for do not include unlimited data. If you read the terms you are signing up for, no where on there does it say you are signing a 2 year deal with unlimited data. At any point in time, whether you are on or off contract, Verizon could swap it over as there have not been 2 year contracts for unlimited data in quite some time. They have chosen not to based on the outrage that came previously when they tried to make some changes to the unlimited plans. (http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/1/6882339/verizon-calls-off-throttling-unlimited-lte-data)
I have seen a few people who swapped their upgrade to another line, used in on that line and then just switched the phone back to theirs. While this did keep their UDP, nowhere in the 2 year contract agreement was it mentioned that they were getting UDP. In fact it was quite the contrary. It would show the 2GB data plan for 30$ which would be activated on line B while line A was just getting the contract extension.
docluv01 said:
Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
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When you buy the phone full retail and go to put it on your line using my Verizon, one step in the process will say your sim is not compatible/or it'll ask you if you want to order a new sim card. Simply click I want a new sim card and within 2 days a new nano sim card will be at your door.
backdown00 said:
What you said above is actually not true, unless BB gives you a different print out and does things differently. As for the way Verizon does things, The contract terms you are signing up for do not include unlimited data. If you read the terms you are signing up for, no where on there does it say you are signing a 2 year deal with unlimited data. At any point in time, whether you are on or off contract, Verizon could swap it over as there have not been 2 year contracts for unlimited data in quite some time. They have chosen not to based on the outrage that came previously when they tried to make some changes to the unlimited plans. (http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/1/6882339/verizon-calls-off-throttling-unlimited-lte-data)
I have seen a few people who swapped their upgrade to another line, used in on that line and then just switched the phone back to theirs. While this did keep their UDP, nowhere in the 2 year contract agreement was it mentioned that they were getting UDP. In fact it was quite the contrary. It would show the 2GB data plan for 30$ which would be activated on line B while line A was just getting the contract extension.
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My contract end date is 06/16/2017 and I still have my UDP. Read the thread I linked earlier before you tell me that what I said isn't true. People have been doing alternate upgrades (4ever) and the BB method for quite some time now, and you get to be on-contract and keep your UDP. Doing the BB method doesn't require you to have two lines on the same account either, so the scenario you describe in your second paragraph doesn't apply to this method of getting a subsidized upgrade on-contract while keeping UDP.
Furthermore you don't need to get a new SIM card so long as you already have a 4G LTE SIM. I took the SIM out of my S4, cut it down to nanoSIM size, and put it directly into my new S6 without any incompatible messages or a need to get a new one from VZW. If you already have a 4G LTE SIM you don't need to get a new one. If you do the BB method and order a new SIM kiss goodbye to your UDP. You must reuse your old SIM in order to keep UDP.
deranger said:
My contract end date is 06/16/2017 and I still have my UDP. Read the thread I linked earlier before you tell me that what I said isn't true. People have been doing alternate upgrades (4ever) and the BB method for quite some time now, and you get to be on-contract and keep your UDP. Doing the BB method doesn't require you to have two lines on the same account either, so the scenario you describe in your second paragraph doesn't apply to this method of getting a subsidized upgrade on-contract while keeping UDP.
Furthermore you don't need to get a new SIM card so long as you already have a 4G LTE SIM. I took the SIM out of my S4, cut it down to nanoSIM size, and put it directly into my new S6 without any incompatible messages or a need to get a new one from VZW. If you already have a 4G LTE SIM you don't need to get a new one. If you do the BB method and order a new SIM kiss goodbye to your UDP. You must reuse your old SIM in order to keep UDP.
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I think I was not clear and I am sorry about that. Your contract end date and what is actually guaranteed by that contract are 2 different things. Look at the actual contract terms. Yes, you can be in a contract with UDP in today's world on verizon, that happens with the example I gave above. The contract you are signing is an extension of service. If done the way in my example, the line its activated on (The line you transferred your upgrade to, line B) will get a data extension contract while the line that transferred the upgrade (line A) will get a service use extension (yes there are now 2 types of contracts). This was changed last September I believe so that if someone tried to transfer their upgrade to a non smartphone line, use the upgrade, then transfer the phone back over to their line, the data plan would stick to the line it was activated on when in the past it would just drop off.
You are correct, you did extend your contract, but that UDP feature is listed nowhere on the actual documents you signed thus changing/removing or doing whatever Verizon wants to do is in no way a violation of your extended service. they are still providing you the service you signed up for. I am not sure when the last time you could actually sign up for unlimited data was using their plan system, but that was definitely more than 3 years ago. I am unsure how these upgrades are processed via best buy and what their contract term sheets look like when printed out, so I can't comment on that process. I have seen Verizon's and seen people who extended their contract and nowhere on that printout is unlimited data listed as being guaranteed for the contract, but it did list the 2GB plan or w/e plan was picked on it. The reason Verizon is not touching this for now is because of the bad press they got previously when trying to modify the unlimited accounts and add throttling. I am sure within the next couple of years though, all unlimited plans will be forced out. It will suck to lose it and its at that time maybe i'll give t-mobile a try.
Also, requesting the sim in the method I put above will in no way effect his UDP. It sends you a nano sim card so you do not have to cut with the current features that are on your account. Yes if you cut your sim card you won't get any incompatible messages because you are not trying to activate the phone through the my Verizon feature. That will only come up when going through and trying activate/change the phone on your account using their website.

Tethering VZW

If you go through the set-up process BEFORE you put in a VZW sim, then tethering works out of the box. :good:
ShaunWinSC said:
If you go through the set-up process BEFORE you put in a VZW sim, then tethering works out of the box. Per MrBobrowitz:good:
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Worked just fine for me, setting it up, AFTER I put in my VZW sim.
With unlimited data??? If so, I'll be ordering mine immediately. I've been waiting to hear root was obtained for this very reason.
d_freshmaker said:
With unlimited data??? If so, I'll be ordering mine immediately. I've been waiting to hear root was obtained for this very reason.
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I see no reason it wouldn't work with unlimited data.
d_freshmaker said:
With unlimited data??? If so, I'll be ordering mine immediately. I've been waiting to hear root was obtained for this very reason.
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Yes, unlimited data. Works right out of the box.
If I am understanding you right, then you guys didn't have to put a sim in from another phone before activating your phone with the new sim you received from Verizon. If that is the case, that's great. I didn't want to have to cut my micro sim down from my LG G2.
Wow, so the phone has no subscription check right out of the box. That is really good news. Thanks for the info!
Oaklands said:
If I am understanding you right, then you guys didn't have to put a sim in from another phone before activating your phone with the new sim you received from Verizon. If that is the case, that's great. I didn't want to have to cut my micro sim down from my LG G2.
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No, I had to cut the SIM from my G4. I went to a Verizon store and the little arrogant greeter f***, told me that the phone wasn't authorized for use on Verizon, and they couldn't activate it.
If people are receiving these already, why has no one posted a system dump for devs to start modding?
A sim cutter is only a few bucks on eBay. I have a standard to micro, and a micro to nano, as well as sim adapters to go back up if needed. OR just log into your Verizon account, find a phone that you used previously that took a nano sim, call 611 and tell them you want to go back to it. They'll 2nd day a new nano sim.
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I guess I will buy the cutter. I'm just going to tell Verizon I am buying a phone from a friend that requires a nano sim and have them send me one. Kind of hacks me off that Verizon wants people to buy a phone off contract but wants you buy it from them with their bloat. Of course, I can't really say I am surprised.
spotmark said:
No, I had to cut the SIM from my G4. I went to a Verizon store and the little arrogant greeter f***, told me that the phone wasn't authorized for use on Verizon, and they couldn't activate it.
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But what about this?
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/09/09/verizon-will-allow-you-to-activate-the-moto-x-pure-edition/
Droid life is wrong? Verizon is still messing with us? Blasphemy. Red is even getting rid of 2 year contracts and they're still pulling this BS?
Spike96 said:
But what about this?
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/09/09/verizon-will-allow-you-to-activate-the-moto-x-pure-edition/
Droid life is wrong? Verizon is still messing with us? Blasphemy. Red is even getting rid of 2 year contracts and they're still pulling this BS?
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Could have just been one employee that didn't know better/didnt care. For best results call 611 and if the 1st level tech can't do it, go to the 2nd level.
I had issues with my first N6 deactivating my sim every time I swapped phones (which I do often). It was a Sprint model and this was before Verizon released their model (so the N6 wasn't in the system). They eventually activated it for me...each time it happened.
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joshw0000 said:
If people are receiving these already, why has no one posted a system dump for devs to start modding?
A sim cutter is only a few bucks on eBay. I have a standard to micro, and a micro to nano, as well as sim adapters to go back up if needed. OR just log into your Verizon account, find a phone that you used previously that took a nano sim, call 611 and tell them you want to go back to it. They'll 2nd day a new nano sim.
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How do I capture a system dump?
I am willing to post one to get the development of this phone going.
ronj1986 said:
How do I capture a system dump?
I am willing to post one to get the development of this phone going.
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My bad. I think you'll need root or a custom recovery to pull it. Just sit tight...or try every known root method until one works (maybe)
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jphillips.hd88 said:
Wow, so the phone has no subscription check right out of the box. That is really good news. Thanks for the info!
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seriously....i can't believe the big red allowed this to happen...:good::good::good:
Another confirmed. Works for me, still on grandfathered unlimited plan.
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ronj1986 said:
How do I capture a system dump?
I am willing to post one to get the development of this phone going.
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Adb pull /system
No need for root to pull system
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Verizon does not have the moto x pure on their white list yet.
So those without a nano sim and do not want to try cutting their sim card, this is what I did.
If your account has a device (not apple) with a nano sim, have them use that devices imei to issue you a nano sim. Then when you put that sim into your MXP, will immediately be activated and have LTE.
Was annoying but is one method of activating device.
Tier 2 support at Verizon can manually enter your imei and activate the phone as long as you have a sim. It took me nearly 2 hours to argue my way there, but once I was transferred to a guy who was willing to at least try, he got it working.
For what it's worth, I'm also a prepaid customer who came from an old Moto X 3g phone without a sim. I had ordered a sim from Amazon and it arrived with my phone. I literally cut it to size with my pocket knife, and a template, while sitting on hold.
My prepaid account was zeroed and my plan was changed to the 4g version of my old plan. I then had to pay for the new plan right away, but I was like 2 days from renewal anyway so I didn't care.
My advice to anyone else trying to activate with Verizon right now. Demand tier 2 or a supervisor. Tell them you have purchased an unlocked phone directly from the manufacturer and Tier 2 is the only people who can activate it. Tier 2 will need your imei and sim card numbers then they can do it. My tier 2 guy didn't believe it himself when he got it working, just ask them to try. Also, the phone shows up in myVerizon for me now as a grey box with a model number over it. The phone is in the system, they just have not received the imei numbers beforehand for verification like they do with iphones. So when Tier 1, or the store, tries to enter it in the number comes up invalid. Tier 2 just needs to over ride it.
spotmark said:
No, I had to cut the SIM from my G4. I went to a Verizon store and the little arrogant greeter f***, told me that the phone wasn't authorized for use on Verizon, and they couldn't activate it.
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this is why all big 4 companies are pushing e-Sim technology. The sim is BUILT in and you HAVE to contact your phone provider to activate it. Who can be a c**k tease and say. "Hmmm....you're unlimited?.....you want that phone activated? ehhhhhmmmmmm no. I can "process your request" if you change your plan to a current one that is offered. Do you have any other questions? No? have a nice day.
e-Sim offers NO benefit to the consumer other than taking control away from the consumer.
luckily we won't be seeing it until about the iPhone 7 but samsung is going to use it too..

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