I am removing things like Kindle, Google TV, etc.....When I open the Playstore it all pushes back down. Any way to stop this?
EVOme said:
I am removing things like Kindle, Google TV, etc.....When I open the Playstore it all pushes back down. Any way to stop this?
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Try disabling or freezing them instead. We only have limited root access, and I haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure we don't have root access to where the system apps "live". I disabled some, and froze others (by that I mean disabled through Android-Settings-App Manager, or froze through TiBu), and they're still frozen after a reboot.
Yeah right now root can only write to system/xbin I believe so freezing and disabling is gonna be your only option for right now. Any appearance of deleting apps will revert if you refresh the app or reboot the phone, is what I've read.
Freeze works fine. I de-bloated my M8 and it seems to stick after reboot.
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And can I disable/remove it without removing features?
(who is your daddy and what does he do?)
Joe0113 said:
And can I disable/remove it without removing features?
(who is your daddy and what does he do?)
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Love the clip. It's an update service for the factory Samsung apps that aren't available in the play store (S Voice, S Calender, S memo, messaging, any of the Samsung apps). Prior to this there wasn't a reliable way of updating those apps without having Samsung Apps installed (Even now its not reliable). Now with this "Push" service updated Samsung will be able to push OTA updates to those apps if needed. Disabling/uninstall is the way to go since no real purpose (unless you use samsung play store and want push notifications). Other than that, its a wakelock for our device.
RevelationOmega said:
Love the clip. It's an update service for the factory Samsung apps that aren't available in the play store (S Voice, S Calender, S memo, messaging, any of the Samsung apps). Prior to this there wasn't a reliable way of updating those apps without having Samsung Apps installed (Even now its not reliable). Now with this "Push" service updated Samsung will be able to push OTA updates to those apps if needed. Disabling/uninstall is the way to go since no real purpose (unless you use samsung play store and want push notifications). Other than that, its a wakelock for our device.
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Aaaaand it's gone. Thanks man!
Joe0113 said:
Aaaaand it's gone. Thanks man!
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Anytime haha.
How do you guys get that nonsense to go away completely? I have uninstalled it 3 times and after every reboot it comes back. I disabled automatic updating, but I can't figure out how to remove it altogether. It shows up in the store as an update, so it isn't really gone. I looked in root/system/apps but didn't see it.
BMP7777 said:
How do you guys get that nonsense to go away completely? I have uninstalled it 3 times and after every reboot it comes back. I disabled automatic updating, but I can't figure out how to remove it altogether. It shows up in the store as an update, so it isn't really gone. I looked in root/system/apps but didn't see it.
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Freeze it, I use Rom toolbox pro
BMP7777 said:
How do you guys get that nonsense to go away completely? I have uninstalled it 3 times and after every reboot it comes back. I disabled automatic updating, but I can't figure out how to remove it altogether. It shows up in the store as an update, so it isn't really gone. I looked in root/system/apps but didn't see it.
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Its in priv-app as SPPPushclient.
BMP7777 said:
How do you guys get that nonsense to go away completely? I have uninstalled it 3 times and after every reboot it comes back. I disabled automatic updating, but I can't figure out how to remove it altogether. It shows up in the store as an update, so it isn't really gone. I looked in root/system/apps but didn't see it.
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TiBu.... wipe data for SPS and then uninstall!
Last I heard autoprime managed to root the xt1028, but I haven't seen any news as of yet.
As far as I know, the only root method that works on 4.4.4 is kingoroot apk, which only grants temp root and may cause the launchers to close unexpectedly.
Anyone seen anything in the wild?
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Nova launcher and home launcher crashed
android.process.acore crashed
android.process.media crashed
Their version of superuser also crashes
Sent from my XT1028
Everything crashes with the apk. I installed a different launcher and fixed that problem, but Titanium Backup, all the google apps (Play Store, Hangouts, Gmail, etc.), and even the phone app crash, basically all I can do is power off.
I'm using the 1.3.8 version of the Windows software, and that works fine. I'd like to find a standalone way to temp root, then I'd be comfortable installing busybox, xposed, an app to soft reboot, etc. Bonus if it'd use supersu instead of some custom solution.
Of course, what I REALLY want is a permanent root.
Hrm, I wonder if there would be a way to do a soft root on bootup. You'd need to be able to cancel just in case it messed things up.
josetann said:
Everything crashes with the apk. I installed a different launcher and fixed that problem, but Titanium Backup, all the google apps (Play Store, Hangouts, Gmail, etc.), and even the phone app crash, basically all I can do is power off.
I'm using the 1.3.8 version of the Windows software, and that works fine. I'd like to find a standalone way to temp root, then I'd be comfortable installing busybox, xposed, an app to soft reboot, etc. Bonus if it'd use supersu instead of some custom solution.
Of course, what I REALLY want is a permanent root.
Hrm, I wonder if there would be a way to do a soft root on bootup. You'd need to be able to cancel just in case it messed things up.
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I mean, obviously it's possible somehow or another because autoprime did it
I can't figure it out myself though
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I''ve never turned Zen Mode on.
I've disabled it in several places.
Despite disabling it everywhere, if I am on my phone continuously for 2 hours, I get a notification from Zen Mode telling me to put my phone down and enjoy my day.
I don't like that.
I'm rooted
I went into a root Uninstaller app to delete it, but it is considered a "key module"
Because the app keeps a recycle bin, and decided to Uninstall it anyway.
It wouldn't let me.
Uninstall failed.
Any suggestions?
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I''ve never turned Zen Mode on.
I've disabled it in several places.
Despite disabling it everywhere, if I am on my phone continuously for 2 hours, I get a notification from Zen Mode telling me to put my phone down and enjoy my day.
I don't like that.
I'm rooted
I went into a root Uninstaller app to delete it, but it is considered a "key module"
Because the app keeps a recycle bin, and decided to Uninstall it anyway.
It wouldn't let me.
Uninstall failed.
Any suggestions?
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Remove OPBreathMode and it should be gone.
I use the Root Essential program to remove unwanted programs eg. ZEN MODE
Use ADB to disable it
There is an option it Zen mode to disable the notification, no need to mess around with freezing apps and ADB.
Uninstalling system apps is no longer possible in Android 10 without a Magisk Module or through TWRP. Disabling it is much easier
In ADB type the following:
adb shell pm disable-user com.oneplus.brickmode
-- this is zen mode and this command will disable it.
Change from magisk Canary build 19.4 to magisk stable 19.3 and you can delete anything you want.
Dew Me said:
I''ve never turned Zen Mode on.
I've disabled it in several places.
Despite disabling it everywhere, if I am on my phone continuously for 2 hours, I get a notification from Zen Mode telling me to put my phone down and enjoy my day.
I don't like that.
I'm rooted
I went into a root Uninstaller app to delete it, but it is considered a "key module"
Because the app keeps a recycle bin, and decided to Uninstall it anyway.
It wouldn't let me.
Uninstall failed.
Any suggestions?
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Imo, do this.
Use the Debloat magisk mod
You can uninstall it.
If you happen to run Into any problems, the Debloat mod allows you to bring the uninstalled app right back the same way you removed it.
Hopefully you won't need to, but it's a good backup in case your system doesn't like it.
Good luck.
Thanks so much guys.
To start I took Eagles advise & DL'd Root Essentials. I went into Zen Mode planning to delete. Was given pause when I saw it was first installed in 2008. Made me wonder what else is in there since Zen Mode is less than a year old AFAIK. So instead I disabled it, since I didn't see a built-in recycling bin to easily add back if needed.
Root Essentials already seems much better than the other one I'd DL'd. Thank you.
I'm gonna do what Sheetzie suggested & use the Deblote Magisk Module in the next couple days. After I've spent 2 hours straight on my phone again to make sure the pause had an affect.
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There is an option it Zen mode to disable the notification, no need to mess around with freezing apps and ADB.
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Like I said, I disabled it in several places already. Plus had never activated it.
If you haven't spent 2 hours straight on your phone, you wouldn't experience what is bothering me. After 2 hours it sends you a notification to get off your phone and go play catch outside. Or something like that. I think the message changes.
No amount of disabling seems to make this stop, so I'm trying to get more serious about it using root access. The responses in this thread have been exactly what I was looking for.
The Root Essential app said it disabled Zen Mode...it didn't
So I went back to Root Essential to delete Zen Mode...it didn't. It couldn't complete the task.
So I got the Magisk Debloater, went into the terminal, and deleted it.
Looks like it is really gone. Went back into Root Essential app and I no longer see it.
When I deleted it showed Zen Mode and OPBreathMode to be one and the same as this thread suggests.
Thank you everyone for your help.
I used ADB to first of all disable Zen Mode. Then I used ADB to uninstall it without issue. I am not rooted. It was simple. It is no longer on my phone at all. OnePlus appears to allow system apps to be uninstalled using this method. Whether they will come back at the next update remains to be seen. I am sure they will come back during a factory reset!
On a side note I wanted my Gmail to be available to remove it from battery optimization because it comes from the factory installed as a service. So I uninstalled Gmail using ADB and it worked just fine. I rebooted and it remained gone. I then installed Gmail from the Play Store and it went back to being installed as a service app, not a user app? Not sure why?
Because, logically, you simply can't remove system apps while not being rooted. They will reside on the phone in a kind of dormant state. Not actually "removed".
Pfeffernuss said:
Because, logically, you simply can't remove system apps while not being rooted. They will reside on the phone in a kind of dormant state. Not actually "removed".
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I cannot argue with your logic about system apps not "truly" being deleted using ADB without root. However, I cannot find it anywhere on my phone. So I am happy to not even see it. Granted, I am not removing certain apps because of storage space concerns, I am removing Zen Mode because to me it is the epitome of BLOAT!
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Use ADB to disable it
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With root he can just do pm disable. No need for ADB.
I used Titanium backup to freeze it.
i also really dislike zenmode
I also really dislike zenmode, I left a comment saying as much on the google play store after i saw it on the update list on google play. I suggest that others also leave bad reviews for this app and maybe it will help get the message across that it should not be forced upon people. It should be optional if it is even bunduled with the os at all.
Is the information here safe to be used for removing bloatware on my 8T?
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imcrazyz said:
Is the information here safe to be used for removing bloatware on my 8T?
edit: grammar error
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This isn't really removing, more hiding from the main user those apps, thus making them not start. But the apks are still here, and after a reset the apps will be there again.
This is totally safe tho, and it's a great way to get rid of them if you don't reset every 2 days, so feel free to try
i just tried using titanium backup paid version to freeze some apps. it still works. you won't see the apps in the drawer until you defrost them again.
issuing those adb commands will modify system settings, so it might be a pita to get updates after you do that. you'll have to remember which apps you deleted and reinstall them again. i could be wrong and this might be a non-issue, i just remember earlier days and modifying system data and then having to make sure all the stock apps were still there to take an ota.
ADB will not stop OTA's from taking place unless you uninstall/disable something relevant to the app that is needed to search/find/download/install the said OTA. After the OTA is applied the apps you uninstalled/disabled (whichever worked) will not come back. As mentioned, using ADB itself without root does not really uninstall them like you think it does. They're still there. So although an OTA will not show them to still be there, a factory reset will bring them back. So the only real way to completely uninstall bloat is to have root. But even then a factory reset will bring them back because they are built in to the native OS.
Raiz said:
This isn't really removing, more hiding from the main user those apps, thus making them not start. But the apks are still here, and after a reset the apps will be there again.
This is totally safe tho, and it's a great way to get rid of them if you don't reset every 2 days, so feel free to try
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Disabling the app is just as good as removing it completely. There isn't really any reason to delete the apps like this (if no uninstall option exists) because once they're disabled they will not run.
I know people have a fascination with deleting system apps, but it's not like you can free up space this way.
Factory reset should bring them back. But this is safer for the integrity of the firmware.
Freezing system apps that do not have the disable option (with TB) is always preferred over deleting them, in my opinion.
Ultimately, you can always save yourself by using the MSM tool to restore.
I like to stop background data and set battery use to restricted for most of my apps.
I spent about 10 minutes yesterday going through every app and turning off background data and setting the battery use to restricted, but after a reboot, everything is back to default, including apps I've previously enabled to install other apps (Google chrome, mixplorer, sai, etc)
Any ideas?
Here is something that I do to achieve a similar result. I use the app Ice Box to freeze many of my apps that I want to restrict. This temporarily disables them, but keeps their data. This cuts down on battery usage, background CPU/RAM usage, and notifications. Whenever you want to use one of those apps, you can just tap the icebox icon and it will show a panel of all of you frozen apps and you can just tap an app to open it. It does offer the ability to put shortcuts of the frozen apps in your launcher to make it easier to access them.
If you are rooted it is simple to set up. If you are not rooted, you can still use it with ADB permissions (works well with Shuzuku too), but you need to reissue the adb command anytime your phone it rebooted. Shizuku makes this step a bit easier.
synesthete said:
Here is something that I do to achieve a similar result. I use the app Ice Box to freeze many of my apps that I want to restrict. This temporarily disables them, but keeps their data. This cuts down on battery usage, background CPU/RAM usage, and notifications. Whenever you want to use one of those apps, you can just tap the icebox icon and it will show a panel of all of you frozen apps and you can just tap an app to open it. It does offer the ability to put shortcuts of the frozen apps in your launcher to make it easier to access them.
If you are rooted it is simple to set up. If you are not rooted, you can still use it with ADB permissions (works well with Shuzuku too), but you need to reissue the adb command anytime your phone it rebooted. Shizuku makes this step a bit easier.
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Thanks @synesthete, but my use is different. I've used SDMaid and other apps to freeze apps for years, but that's not what I'm after.
For instance, I don't think Google Chrome needs to have background data when I'm not actively using it. I also think that there's no need for it to have "optimized" battery setting if I only want it running when I want to use it. There are a lot of apps that fall into this category that I'd like to be in control of.
So in short, I want to disable background data and set it's battery use to "restricted", which works right up until I restart my phone.
I hope this isn't some new "intended behavior", that'll suck.
Battery life is part of my concern - apps that are on the "restricted" list don't use as much battery, and I couldn't care less if I get notifications from most of them, but I still want to use them.
Background data is more privacy-concern. I don't think most of my apps need to call home and tell them what I've done in their app since last time it called home. My invoicing program for instance. I need that info synced, but when *I* choose for it to sync, not 14 times in the middle of the night when I'm not using the phone.
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Thanks @synesthete, but my use is different. I've used SDMaid and other apps to freeze apps for years, but that's not what I'm after.
For instance, I don't think Google Chrome needs to have background data when I'm not actively using it. I also think that there's no need for it to have "optimized" battery setting if I only want it running when I want to use it. There are a lot of apps that fall into this category that I'd like to be in control of.
So in short, I want to disable background data and set it's battery use to "restricted", which works right up until I restart my phone.
I hope this isn't some new "intended behavior", that'll suck.
Battery life is part of my concern - apps that are on the "restricted" list don't use as much battery, and I couldn't care less if I get notifications from most of them, but I still want to use them.
Background data is more privacy-concern. I don't think most of my apps need to call home and tell them what I've done in their app since last time it called home. My invoicing program for instance. I need that info synced, but when *I* choose for it to sync, not 14 times in the middle of the night when I'm not using the phone.
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Yeah I understand your reasoning and I agree that many apps like that do not need background data or to even run run in the background. I suppose some people use web-apps/PWAs and push notifications in their browsers, but it seems that background data should be an opt-in setting for many apps.
It is very strange that those settings are resetting after reboot. I just tested it out with Chrome and Chrome Beta and the restricted setting survived a reboot.
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Yeah I understand your reasoning and I agree that many apps like that do not need background data or to even run run in the background. I suppose some people use web-apps/PWAs and push notifications in their browsers, but it seems that background data should be an opt-in setting for many apps.
It is very strange that those settings are resetting after reboot. I just tested it out with Chrome and Chrome Beta and the restricted setting survived a reboot.
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Damn, ok, at least I know there's something wrong with specifically MY setup.
Hopefully someone will chime in with a reason and a fix.
Thank you for checking it out on yours and giving me input!!
I hate to double-post, but it's been a couple days and I was hoping that someone with experience in what my issues is would chime in.
tl;dr the initial post:
I set specific apps to restrict background data and set the battery use to restricted.
After a phone restart, the settings are back to default, including any 'disable over' and other permissions. My changes do not persist after a reboot.