Is the information here safe to be used for removing bloatware on my 8T?
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imcrazyz said:
Is the information here safe to be used for removing bloatware on my 8T?
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This isn't really removing, more hiding from the main user those apps, thus making them not start. But the apks are still here, and after a reset the apps will be there again.
This is totally safe tho, and it's a great way to get rid of them if you don't reset every 2 days, so feel free to try
i just tried using titanium backup paid version to freeze some apps. it still works. you won't see the apps in the drawer until you defrost them again.
issuing those adb commands will modify system settings, so it might be a pita to get updates after you do that. you'll have to remember which apps you deleted and reinstall them again. i could be wrong and this might be a non-issue, i just remember earlier days and modifying system data and then having to make sure all the stock apps were still there to take an ota.
ADB will not stop OTA's from taking place unless you uninstall/disable something relevant to the app that is needed to search/find/download/install the said OTA. After the OTA is applied the apps you uninstalled/disabled (whichever worked) will not come back. As mentioned, using ADB itself without root does not really uninstall them like you think it does. They're still there. So although an OTA will not show them to still be there, a factory reset will bring them back. So the only real way to completely uninstall bloat is to have root. But even then a factory reset will bring them back because they are built in to the native OS.
Raiz said:
This isn't really removing, more hiding from the main user those apps, thus making them not start. But the apks are still here, and after a reset the apps will be there again.
This is totally safe tho, and it's a great way to get rid of them if you don't reset every 2 days, so feel free to try
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Disabling the app is just as good as removing it completely. There isn't really any reason to delete the apps like this (if no uninstall option exists) because once they're disabled they will not run.
I know people have a fascination with deleting system apps, but it's not like you can free up space this way.
Factory reset should bring them back. But this is safer for the integrity of the firmware.
Freezing system apps that do not have the disable option (with TB) is always preferred over deleting them, in my opinion.
Ultimately, you can always save yourself by using the MSM tool to restore.
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Hi, I have tried several times to remove the bloatware on my device eliminating apk's. But every time I remove a single apk, when I restart my device it shows a SECURITY ERROR, and I have to flash a KDZ to repair it. I keep the bloatware frozen with Titanium Backup But I really want to get rid of it. Did someone is having the same problem?
If you're getting a security error after removing stuff from /system, you're touching something you shouldn't be. Search the G Flex 2 forums for the Safe Bloatware to Remove thread and that is the most you can remove. Freezing does pretty much teh same thing as removing the APKs, except it keeps the APKs. Either way, you shouldn't be worried.
My phone is not rooted. Its only a week old so I'd like to avoid rooting for a while due to warranty.
I want to remove a few apps that came pre-installed on my phone like "Hangouts" but every time that I remove them, they reinstall automatically a while later.
How do I permanently uninstall the apps so that they remain uninstalled?
Byte_76 said:
My phone is not rooted. Its only a week old so I'd like to avoid rooting for a while due to warranty.
I want to remove a few apps that came pre-installed on my phone like "Hangouts" but every time that I remove them, they reinstall automatically a while later.
How do I permanently uninstall the apps so that they remain uninstalled?
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Uninstall them, disable them, and turn off automatic updating for that app in the play store beforehand.
Hi there, your comments would be greatly appreciated.
To keep data, I flash the whole 8.0 stock firmware after removing -w.
After using days, the phone can't be easily unlocked, even by power key or by FPR. Sometimes, I need to wait a more long time for the phone waking up.
Sometimes the incoming call can't even wake it up, I can't answer the call.
Have reflashed the firmware with -w available then restore all my app via titanium backup. the issue persists.
Please help! How to tell which app prevent the phone from waking
Try factory reset and not restoring data with titanium rather Google backup
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Thanks. have tried clean install. everything is fine before restoring data with titanium.
So there must be some app which prevent phone from waking. Is there any chance of find this app.
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Try factory reset and not restoring data with titanium rather Google backup
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I'd say just start over....
I'd say it's titanium backup restore itself
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thank you dude, will take a try.
If the issue persists you could give a list of the apps you install if you don't mind.. maybe we can figure out which one affects the unlocking. :highfive:
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I'm having a similar issue, but in my case I'm having trouble waking up the phone after it's been unplugged from the charger. If I use my phone all day after a full charge (and after rebooting), it's silky smooth, but the second I plug it in, the issue starts until I reboot again.
It might be extreme, but I've done this multiple times on previous phones. I restore half my apps, say the ones starting with A through M. If there's no problem, then I install half of what's left, say N through S, etc. Keep doing this as a process of elimination. Yes it's tedious but eventually you can narrow down the problem app and/or app data. You could also try restoring all of your apps without data, and if there's no problem then restore the data for half of the apps, etc.
Otherwise, as @PunishedSnake said, don't restore data (or even apps) at all with Titanium Backup. It sucks but we all occasionally have to do that.
I've since factory reset my phone with minimal app installation (no Google restoring of apps), but am still experiencing this frustrating glitch, even with/without unplugging the charger and rebooting.
Debating whether or not I should root (and downgrade).
Safe Mode fixed the problem. I will try to find the apps which prevents the phone from waking up.
How can I do this.
boojay said:
I've since factory reset my phone with minimal app installation (no Google restoring of apps), but am still experiencing this frustrating glitch, even with/without unplugging the charger and rebooting.
Debating whether or not I should root (and downgrade).
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bush911 said:
Safe Mode fixed the problem. I will try to find the apps which prevents the phone from waking up.
How can I do this.
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I think I've found the problematic app in my case. I've been using immersive mode through Custom Navigation Bar and after disabling it, my phone has become responsive again. After double checking the app's description in the Play Store, it seems the dev hasn't updated it for Oreo yet.
#FirstWorldFragmentationProblems
Edited: In order to fix this problem, simply use Tasker to disable Custom Navigation Bar's Immersive mode whenever you turn off the screen, and re-enabling it either when you unlock the phone, or only for specific apps (which is what I do).
Yes. try to enable immersive mode via this command
adb shell settings put global policy_control immersive.navigation=apps,-com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
now everything is fine.
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I think I've found the problematic app in my case. I've been using immersive mode through Custom Navigation Bar and after disabling it, my phone has become responsive again. After double checking the app's description in the Play Store, it seems the dev hasn't updated it for Oreo yet.
#FirstWorldFragmentationProblems
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bush911 said:
Yes. try to enable immersive mode via this command
adb shell settings put global policy_control immersive.navigation=apps,-com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
now everything is fine.
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Glad to hear you were able to resolve your problem. In my case, I actually don't want immersive mode activated all the time so I may still have to root in order to selectively choose which apps I apply this command to.
Edited: In order to fix this problem, simply use Tasker to disable Custom Navigation Bar's Immersive mode whenever you turn off the screen, and re-enabling it either when you unlock the phone, or only for specific apps (which is what I do).
Hello
After spending hours to disable unwanted notifications and all kind of ads in all the apps and phone settings, is there a way to back this setup up..
In case you have to restore the phone, it would be great and useful to have this done without going through all the settings again.
I do not like MI cloud and I disabled my account. Third party or maybe Google? but as I said more for the settings.
Thanks in advance
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Hello
After spending hours to disable unwanted notifications and all kind of ads in all the apps and phone settings, is there a way to back this setup up..
In case you have to restore the phone, it would be great and useful to have this done without going through all the settings again.
I do not like MI cloud and I disabled my account. Third party or maybe Google? but as I said more for the settings.
Thanks in advance
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Google will back up your apps installed through PlayStore with their settings and will restore them. No phone settings though. Titanium Backup is another option (requires root). It can backup all system/private apps with their settings, though restoring system apps and their settings may be risky since their versions may differ from those in the ROM/Gapps that you flash.
Titanium is the go to for me.
Saving system settings on the other hand is not so simple, I've tryed several app solutions but always eventually run into problems.
Twrp is the only effective way to properly back up system settings in my experience.
I''ve never turned Zen Mode on.
I've disabled it in several places.
Despite disabling it everywhere, if I am on my phone continuously for 2 hours, I get a notification from Zen Mode telling me to put my phone down and enjoy my day.
I don't like that.
I'm rooted
I went into a root Uninstaller app to delete it, but it is considered a "key module"
Because the app keeps a recycle bin, and decided to Uninstall it anyway.
It wouldn't let me.
Uninstall failed.
Any suggestions?
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I''ve never turned Zen Mode on.
I've disabled it in several places.
Despite disabling it everywhere, if I am on my phone continuously for 2 hours, I get a notification from Zen Mode telling me to put my phone down and enjoy my day.
I don't like that.
I'm rooted
I went into a root Uninstaller app to delete it, but it is considered a "key module"
Because the app keeps a recycle bin, and decided to Uninstall it anyway.
It wouldn't let me.
Uninstall failed.
Any suggestions?
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Remove OPBreathMode and it should be gone.
I use the Root Essential program to remove unwanted programs eg. ZEN MODE
Use ADB to disable it
There is an option it Zen mode to disable the notification, no need to mess around with freezing apps and ADB.
Uninstalling system apps is no longer possible in Android 10 without a Magisk Module or through TWRP. Disabling it is much easier
In ADB type the following:
adb shell pm disable-user com.oneplus.brickmode
-- this is zen mode and this command will disable it.
Change from magisk Canary build 19.4 to magisk stable 19.3 and you can delete anything you want.
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I''ve never turned Zen Mode on.
I've disabled it in several places.
Despite disabling it everywhere, if I am on my phone continuously for 2 hours, I get a notification from Zen Mode telling me to put my phone down and enjoy my day.
I don't like that.
I'm rooted
I went into a root Uninstaller app to delete it, but it is considered a "key module"
Because the app keeps a recycle bin, and decided to Uninstall it anyway.
It wouldn't let me.
Uninstall failed.
Any suggestions?
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Imo, do this.
Use the Debloat magisk mod
You can uninstall it.
If you happen to run Into any problems, the Debloat mod allows you to bring the uninstalled app right back the same way you removed it.
Hopefully you won't need to, but it's a good backup in case your system doesn't like it.
Good luck.
Thanks so much guys.
To start I took Eagles advise & DL'd Root Essentials. I went into Zen Mode planning to delete. Was given pause when I saw it was first installed in 2008. Made me wonder what else is in there since Zen Mode is less than a year old AFAIK. So instead I disabled it, since I didn't see a built-in recycling bin to easily add back if needed.
Root Essentials already seems much better than the other one I'd DL'd. Thank you.
I'm gonna do what Sheetzie suggested & use the Deblote Magisk Module in the next couple days. After I've spent 2 hours straight on my phone again to make sure the pause had an affect.
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There is an option it Zen mode to disable the notification, no need to mess around with freezing apps and ADB.
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Like I said, I disabled it in several places already. Plus had never activated it.
If you haven't spent 2 hours straight on your phone, you wouldn't experience what is bothering me. After 2 hours it sends you a notification to get off your phone and go play catch outside. Or something like that. I think the message changes.
No amount of disabling seems to make this stop, so I'm trying to get more serious about it using root access. The responses in this thread have been exactly what I was looking for.
The Root Essential app said it disabled Zen Mode...it didn't
So I went back to Root Essential to delete Zen Mode...it didn't. It couldn't complete the task.
So I got the Magisk Debloater, went into the terminal, and deleted it.
Looks like it is really gone. Went back into Root Essential app and I no longer see it.
When I deleted it showed Zen Mode and OPBreathMode to be one and the same as this thread suggests.
Thank you everyone for your help.
I used ADB to first of all disable Zen Mode. Then I used ADB to uninstall it without issue. I am not rooted. It was simple. It is no longer on my phone at all. OnePlus appears to allow system apps to be uninstalled using this method. Whether they will come back at the next update remains to be seen. I am sure they will come back during a factory reset!
On a side note I wanted my Gmail to be available to remove it from battery optimization because it comes from the factory installed as a service. So I uninstalled Gmail using ADB and it worked just fine. I rebooted and it remained gone. I then installed Gmail from the Play Store and it went back to being installed as a service app, not a user app? Not sure why?
Because, logically, you simply can't remove system apps while not being rooted. They will reside on the phone in a kind of dormant state. Not actually "removed".
Pfeffernuss said:
Because, logically, you simply can't remove system apps while not being rooted. They will reside on the phone in a kind of dormant state. Not actually "removed".
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I cannot argue with your logic about system apps not "truly" being deleted using ADB without root. However, I cannot find it anywhere on my phone. So I am happy to not even see it. Granted, I am not removing certain apps because of storage space concerns, I am removing Zen Mode because to me it is the epitome of BLOAT!
taanh1412 said:
Use ADB to disable it
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With root he can just do pm disable. No need for ADB.
I used Titanium backup to freeze it.
i also really dislike zenmode
I also really dislike zenmode, I left a comment saying as much on the google play store after i saw it on the update list on google play. I suggest that others also leave bad reviews for this app and maybe it will help get the message across that it should not be forced upon people. It should be optional if it is even bunduled with the os at all.