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[Q] diffrence between twrp and clockwork mod?

what is the diffrence between twrp and clockworkmod? ever since i started rooting and flashing all ive known is clockworkmod....but it wont work with some of my apps like rom toolbox to flash roms....its telling me to use twrp......whats the diffrence though? i tried twrp touch once and it bricked my phone......so what is the diffrence? which one is better? should i get it? is there any risk on roms not being flashable with twrp? if so can i get the latest link and how to? i realize these might all be opinions but would really like to hear what you all have to say...thanks

I've never used an app to flash a Rom. I prefer to go to recovery myself, so I know what gets wiped. I've tried twrp a couple times before, but my phone didn't play nice with it, and it would refuse to boot, telling me there was no recovery or boot img loaded.
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p1gp3n said:
I've never used an app to flash a Rom. I prefer to go to recovery myself, so I know what gets wiped. I've tried twrp a couple times before, but my phone didn't play nice with it, and it would refuse to boot, telling me there was no recovery or boot img loaded.
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Crap Installed twrp and haven't used it but after what you said I'm scared to.....anyway to go back to cwm?
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Flash it thru fastboot or use the app "flash image gui" it is a paid app on the market, but has also been offered here on xda by the dev for free. I haven't used the app in awhile, but it worked for me back on ics when I used it last.
If you use fastboot it's fastboot flash recovery recovery.img just make sure to use the actual recovery img file name instead of "recovery.img" at the end
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mcluvin1065 said:
Crap Installed twrp and haven't used it but after what you said I'm scared to.....anyway to go back to cwm?
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Use this guide

I use twrp and have for months. If your phone got bricked you probably did something wrong. Most likely flashed the wrong image. Use the goomanager app from the market to install the twrp. Open the app press menu and select install open recovery script option. Works like a charm.
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Yea i love twerps ui. It is slick. And all the features are awesome.
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They are just both recoveries that you can use on your device. TWRP is based on the stock recovery and is all touch compatible whereas ClockWorkMod or CWM for short is a recovery where it does all the same features but some features of it are not available whereas in TWRP they are and vise versa. I use TWRP and I personally think that it is better than CWM any day. Yes like you I started of knowing only what CWM is but then I researched and found TWRP. I used TWRP ever since.
Although there are some disadvantages and Advantages of the both.
ClockworkMod:
The Advantages of CWM is that the backups are all in a way "linked" together. This means if you have the app swype for example and you backed that rom up that has Swype, and then made another backup of another ROM but with the same app Swype CWM recognizes that and uses the apk from the previous backup on the new one. So according to me it makes the backup faster.
Also there is a feature which is Fixing Permissions. TWRP has Fixing Permissions but it is not really that well made. With the Fixing Permissions it lets you fix apps that stop or like crash when you try and launch them. That helps when you flash a custom ROM and when you boot you get all these errors like "YouTube has stopped".
TWRP:
The advantages of TWRP is that it is all touch compatible and all "open source" in a way. I'm not sure about CWM but in TWRP you can customize it very easily if you know XML, with CWM I don't know. With TWRP it uses less data or memory on your SD card so it saves space on your internal storage which is a bonus.
Anything else I find about the advantages about the 2 I will post here in this post.

UselessSniper001 said:
They are just both recoveries that you can use on your device. TWRP is based on the stock recovery and is all touch compatible whereas ClockWorkMod or CWM for short is a recovery where it does all the same features but some features of it are not available whereas in TWRP they are and vise versa. I use TWRP and I personally think that it is better than CWM any day. Yes like you I started of knowing only what CWM is but then I researched and found TWRP. I used TWRP ever since.
Although there are some disadvantages and Advantages of the both.
ClockworkMod:
The Advantages of CWM is that the backups are all in a way "linked" together. This means if you have the app swype for example and you backed that rom up that has Swype, and then made another backup of another ROM but with the same app Swype CWM recognizes that and uses the apk from the previous backup on the new one. So according to me it makes the backup faster.
Also there is a feature which is Fixing Permissions. TWRP has Fixing Permissions but it is not really that well made. With the Fixing Permissions it lets you fix apps that stop or like crash when you try and launch them. That helps when you flash a custom ROM and when you boot you get all these errors like "YouTube has stopped".
TWRP:
The advantages of TWRP is that it is all touch compatible and all "open source" in a way. I'm not sure about CWM but in TWRP you can customize it very easily if you know XML, with CWM I don't know. With TWRP it uses less data or memory on your SD card so it saves space on your internal storage which is a bonus.
Anything else I find about the advantages about the 2 I will post here in this post.
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Last CWMR touch 6.0.1.0 !
FULLY WORKING!
Flashable zip!
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[Recovery][Unofficial]TWRP 2.7.0.0 & Clockwork Recovery Touch 6.0.4.4 W/loki (D800)

[Recovery][Unofficial]TWRP 2.7.0.0 & Clockwork Recovery Touch 6.0.4.4 W/loki (D800)
Clockwork recovery touch with Loki for AT&T LG G2 (D800) Only.
TWRP recovery touch with Loki for AT&T LG G2 (D800) Only.
The only difference between official recoveries and this version is that Loki is built in to recovery.
THIS IS ONLY FOR 10d FIRMWARE. IF YOU ARE ON 10o THEN DO NOT USE!!!
You may want to flash 10d firmware. It can be found HERE with instructions. If you plan on using ROMs it is best to flash 10d firmware first.
Install Methods
Flashable Zip - Must have TWRP or whatever custom recovery already installed.
Boot into recovery and flash Recovery Zip file.
Manual Method - With no custom recovery already installed.
Must have Root first. Check HERE for root
Download the zip file to which recovery you want
Extract zip file to C:\
Open command prompt in root of C drive
You will need adb installed and properly setup in your environment variables. If not place the recovery.img wherever your adb file is located.
Type the following commands:
Code:
adb push recovery.img /data/local/tmp/recovery.img
adb shell
su
cd /data/local/tmp
dd if=/data/local/tmp/recovery.img of=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/recovery
exit
exit
adb reboot recovery
Now you should be in recovery.
Downloads
TWRP 2.7.0.0 with Loki
File Name openrecovery-twrp-2.7.0.0-d800-loki.zip
MD5 f640c221e4a6c575b375094f765d63ba
Clockwork Recovery Touch 6.0.4.4 with Loki
File Name recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.4.4-d800-loki.zip
MD5 d50fbe2e026463e5df698f0b8b0a4d91
Download HERE
Mirror - Goo.im
Enjoy!
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Credits
TWRP team for great recovery
Koush for original clockwork recovery
djrbliss for Loki

manojsuper said:
Does everything worked.
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Everything I have tested so far.

Can I flash using flashify?
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holeshot77 said:
Can I flash using flashify?
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I have not tested that way but I am sure you can. If you just need the img file than extract from zip file.
If you try then let us know how it worked out

Using flashify works like a charm. Just extract img file and flash using flashify. As a third alternative.
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I haven't used cwm since the days of the vibrant but ,my question is does this recovery speed up flashing a rom? It takes me less then a minute to flash a rom on the nexus 4 so I was just curious. Thanks.
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ManOnTheMoon said:
I haven't used cwm since the days of the vibrant but ,my question is does this recovery speed up flashing a rom? It takes me less then a minute to flash a rom on the nexus 4 so I was just curious. Thanks.
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If you been flashing OEM modified ROMs on G2 the speed may have been due to the size of the ROMs.

AndroidUser00110001 said:
If you been flashing OEM modified ROMs on G2 the speed may have been due to the size of the ROMs.
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Sorry I meant to include CM/AOSP based roms. The days of flashing 250mb+ roms are over :good:

I also havent used CWM in a long time now, are there any real differences between this and TWRP besides layout? Any special features unique to CWM?

EniGmA1987 said:
I also havent used CWM in a long time now, are there any real differences between this and TWRP besides layout? Any special features unique to CWM?
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They all do the same so people will use what they prefer...

Will I lose my twrp backups if I flash this clockwork recovery?
If not, then would I be able to restore twrp backups with cwm? May be a silly question but I never tried this and worried about losing backups.

You will not lose them until you delete them but I am not sure if you can restore twrp backups with clockwork.
SysAdmNj said:
Will I lose my twrp backups if I flash this clockwork recovery?
If not, then would I be able to restore twrp backups with cwm? May be a silly question but I never tried this and worried about losing backups.
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Thanks for this! Always good to see people doing stuff on this phone : )

Flashing was a breeze. Thanks.
Does this mount usb-otg? When I try "Mount USB Storage" nothing happens. I am pretty sure TWRP also does not yet support usb-otg. My hopes were CWM did.
Thanks

Adb side load is an alternative for Mount usb. Install Zip --> Install from adb sideload. Unfortunately this didn't work for me either. If it works for any of you guys please let me know the steps you followed. Sideload doesn't work in TWRP also.
In case of a soft brick either Mount usb or adb side load should help. Otherwise you have to go back to stock using Lg tools and start all over again.

varunkumars said:
Adb side load is an alternative for Mount usb. Install Zip --> Install from adb sideload. Unfortunately this didn't work for me either. If it works for any of you guys please let me know the steps you followed. Sideload doesn't work in TWRP also.
In case of a soft brick either Mount usb or adb side load should help. Otherwise you have to go back to stock using Lg tools and start all over again.
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Thanks for the reply. I will be a happy camper when we get real usb-otg support from both recoveries

Format Cache is not working
Hey guys,
I flashed this and seem to have a problem with formatting the cache- it just stops so I cannot wipe becuase it stops at formatting cache. Anybody else experienced this before? I flashed again with same results.
thanks,
AC

aaronc_98 said:
Hey guys,
I flashed this and seem to have a problem with formatting the cache- it just stops so I cannot wipe becuase it stops at formatting cache. Anybody else experienced this before? I flashed again with same results.
thanks,
AC
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Just let it finish, it takes a long time. I thought the same and then it finished up.

Worked like a charm. Thanks!
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Is wiping always going to take this long?
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[Q] sd-ext error

Hi all iv have issues with my moto g I cant get any ROM or firmware to boot up then noticed this error in the pic below, how can I fix it and is this why I can't flash roms etc I was on rooted stock UK now I'm stuck with just recovery mode etc
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brewy said:
Hi all iv have issues with my moto g I cant get any ROM or firmware to boot up then noticed this error in the pic below, how can I fix it and is this why I can't flash roms etc I was on rooted stock UK now I'm stuck with just recovery mode etc
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Well, I can't see your posted pic but I recommend you to flash a stock UK firmware on your phone through fastboot. You can try any other option too but fastboot would be the best one to resolve your problem without much hassle.

forgotter said:
Well, I can't see your posted pic but I recommend you to flash a stock UK firmware on your phone through fastboot. You can try any other option too but fastboot would be the best one to resolve your problem without much hassle.
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The error says fail to find path (sd-ext) I'll try fastboot later on I'm just curious as how this error came up after doing the normal wipes I don't no if its recovery related or not but it won't boot any rom or stock roms
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@brewy : As long you as you are on moto g, you'll never be able to mount /sd-ext (as moto g only has /data).Since moto g doesn't has a sdcard, there can't be a sd-ext partition. So here ends your curiosity. Lol.
I guess you have CWM as recovery. I recommend you to install TWRP.2.7.0.0.falcon by dhacker.(It had no issue).
And what about your phone. Is it working fine now?

@brewy : As long you as you are on moto g, you'll never be able to mount /sd-ext (as moto g only has /data).Since moto g doesn't has a sdcard, there can't be a sd-ext partition. So here ends your curiosity. Lol.
I guess you have CWM as recovery. I recommend you to install TWRP.2.7.0.0.falcon by dhacker.(It had no issue).
And what about your phone. Is it working fine now?
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Phew I thought my phone had an error stopping it boot, yep I'm using philz cwm because iv found out twrp changes my F2fs to ext4 after doing the three wipes which I don't want period I have to mfastboot my G later today when I get some time I could of did it early but my laptop was missing some dll files which is now solved
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Nope, TWRP doesn't changes your partition from f2fs to ext4. I made a backup of my phone a day earlier and have data.f2fs.win as one of backup files and system will always be ext4 irrespective of which recovery you are on.
I encountered some problems with philz cwm so I moved on to TWRP. It's your choice to choose what you would like to have. Nevertheless, I'd still say to give a try to latest TWRP.
My good wishes for your phone. Hope it will get alive by today.:good:

forgotter said:
Nope, TWRP doesn't changes your partition from f2fs to ext4. I made a backup of my phone a day earlier and have data.f2fs.win as one of backup files and system will always be ext4 irrespective of which recovery you are on.
I encountered some problems with philz cwm so I moved on to TWRP. It's your choice to choose what you would like to have. Nevertheless, I'd still say to give a try to latest TWRP.
My good wishes for your phone. Hope it will get alive by today.:good:
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Well fixed my G as you can see I'm using with mfastboot now back to rooted stock with twrp none of cwm would stick but at least I got my pride and joy back that's all that matters for now
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[Discussion] Downgrading From 4.4.4

I'm making this thread so we can all put our heads together to figure out what we can do, what ways there are to get back to stock.. Just things people have done to restore back to stock.
Everyone having this issue people post here please as it will keep the Q&A thread clean.
At the moment I am encounter the issue, although I am not in a bootloop. I had a Official Firmware 4.4.2 installed that had been updated to 4.4.4.
Everything was working properly, but I flashed the latest CM11 Nightly. I had forgotten to backup my stock.
When I try to restore a stock firmware it Fails on partition so I didn't Want to chance flashing anything else in case I bricked my phone
At the moment my phones living off a CM11 TWRP backup which isn't ideal :/
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I can share a 4.4.2 cmw backup but my net is slow as fk. I successfully downgraded using cmw backup.I think there is some problem with the mount points of the stock . I had this prob of not able to format or write using recovery and fastboot in my Chinese s4 clone but I formatted all partitions using the flash tool that I had and than I was able to flash ROM. It occurred because I had given wrong mount points in the update script of the ROM that I had previously flashed
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xXx~~~SHLOK~~~xXx said:
I can share a 4.4.2 cmw backup but my net is slow as fk. I successfully downgraded using cmw backup.I think there is some problem with the mount points of the stock . I had this prob of not able to format or write using recovery and fastboot in my Chinese s4 clone but I formatted all partitions using the flash tool that I had and than I was able to flash ROM. It occurred because I had given wrong mount points in the update script of the ROM that I had previously flashed
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Would a twrp backup work the same?
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Clarkiieh said:
Would a twrp backup work the same?
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It should

[Q] Any tips how to get CWM working?

Hello guys, this is my first post on xda forums!
I've got a question. I rooted my Moto G XT1032 with flashing superSU through CWM 6.0.4.7. After reboot, CWM offered me some options about fixing recovery, I just ignored it, selected no to every option. After reboot I had root access. For some unknown reasons, I am not able to do nandroid backup when I reboot to recovery. It looks like it is backing it up somewhere, but I cannot see it anywhere on my "sdcard". BTW, I choosed CWM because TWRP is extremely buggy, for my finger size unusable :laugh: . Thanks guys for every reply!!!
Oh, btw, CWM still offers me some "root fixes" when I try to reboot...

CWM ask you to fix root you should accept try flashing su again, try philz touch recovery
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Feliox said:
Hello guys, this is my first post on xda forums!
I've got a question. I rooted my Moto G XT1032 with flashing superSU through CWM 6.0.4.7. After reboot, CWM offered me some options about fixing recovery, I just ignored it, selected no to every option. After reboot I had root access. For some unknown reasons, I am not able to do nandroid backup when I reboot to recovery. It looks like it is backing it up somewhere, but I cannot see it anywhere on my "sdcard". BTW, I choosed CWM because TWRP is extremely buggy, for my finger size unusable :laugh: . Thanks guys for every reply!!!
Oh, btw, CWM still offers me some "root fixes" when I try to reboot...
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1)Your CWM Backup is Saved To Data/media/Clockworkmode (into the internal Directory)
2)In CWM Every time you have to select Yes To Fix Root... No Need To Flash supersu again and again.

My root always works, even if I do not choose to fix root, lol.
But i'll flash the phils recovery... Is it just normal process using fastboot flash recovery?
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Feliox said:
My root always works, even if I do not choose to fix root, lol.
But i'll flash the phils recovery... Is it just normal process using fastboot flash recovery?
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Yes...
Fastboot flash recovery recovery. img
(Where recovery. img is ur philz recover name)

Thanks a lot
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