Questions regarding LTE and HSPA+/3G - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all, did a search and found nothing about this so here we go.
First thing's first, I'm on Telus up here in frosty Canada.
First question: Why is that under the Mobile Network settings, where you can change from LTE to 3G or 2G, it says "(recommended)" next to LTE? Is Google trying to say that it's more reliable when in LTE mode?
Second: While using Google Now, on Telus' HSPA+ (3G mode), I get spotty results; it sometimes fails to find a connection even though I *am* connected. Other apps have issues loading as well. However, when I switch to LTE mode, it works fine while on LTE AND if it auto-switches to HSPA+, like at work where I don't get LTE. Would this be an issue with the phone or with Telus?
Thanks!

First, LTE is the most modern and fastest. Its "recommended" so noobs who don't know what lte is know that its recommended or best
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Harsh Mr root su! Stick with lte as it's best it's switching to next best when it goes to HSPA+That's the network lack of lte coverage, not your phone
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LTE can go faster and have less latency.
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howard bamber said:
Harsh Mr root su! Stick with lte as it's best it's switching to next best when it goes to HSPA+That's the network lack of lte coverage, not your phone
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Im not being harsh! It recommended because it's best and its pointed out for those who dont know its best. What's harsh about that?
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[Q] why does my t mobile sensations internet say wcdma

The top icon says "4g" yet in my internet settings it says wcdma not hspa or anything like that. Does this mean it isn't 4g??
I'm assuming you are looking under Mobile Network Setting > Network Mode. If that is in fact what your are referring to, then you have nothing to worry about. What you are seeing in the type of connection the phone is using to connect to the network. GSM is the network T-Mobile and AT&T uses (SIM card), and CDMA is what Verizon and Sprint uses (old technology). If you are getting the 4G icon on your status bar, then you are connected at 4G speeds.
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Thank you, question tho i'm always either on 4g or edge, why? I love the 4g speeds but why no 3g? I never see the icon read 3g?
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same here always 4g or edge. No 3g
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From time to time you may see G (3G), or the slowest speed 2G (Edge), and this just means the signal is fluctuating from the available connection speeds in your area, this is normal. You will never just get 4G all the time, it will go in and out. Your phones are doing what they are supposed to do. And be aware some areas have no 4G at all.
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the reason why you are not seeing 3g is cause the 3g icon has been replaced by 4g. cause technically there is no 4g yet. its a marketing ploy to get more people to buy new phones. dont get me wrong cause its not really 3g you are connected to its more like 3.5g.
SoFaKiNgStOkeD said:
From time to time you may see G (3G), or the slowest speed 2G (Edge),
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Have to correct you on this, G = GPRS, E = Edge (2G).
Divine flaw said:
the reason why you are not seeing 3g is cause the 3g icon has been replaced by 4g. cause technically there is no 4g yet. its a marketing ploy to get more people to buy new phones. dont get me wrong cause its not really 3g you are connected to its more like 3.5g.
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this guy is correct. if you really want to know what connection you have you can swap out the icons for your data connectivity or install Elixir & look at what it says there. If you're connected to 3G it'll say UTMS & it'll say HSPA for 4G/HSPA
Divine flaw said:
the reason why you are not seeing 3g is cause the 3g icon has been replaced by 4g. cause technically there is no 4g yet. its a marketing ploy to get more people to buy new phones. dont get me wrong cause its not really 3g you are connected to its more like 3.5g.
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Damn I knew some **** like this was up. any idea when real 4g will be out
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nbochoa said:
Damn I knew some **** like this was up. any idea when real 4g will be out
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No one has finished deploying faux G networks and no real 4G phones are being sold. I imagine it will take 5-10 years for true 4G to be available in more than a few small markets. It just doesn't make financial sense for service providers to replace/upgrade equipment over and over again in a short timeframe.
So me having a sensation would mean what I have is the fastest I can get or would changing my ROM help me get the "42 mbps" t mobile claims to have.
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mike_ekim said:
No one has finished deploying faux G networks and no real 4G phones are being sold. I imagine it will take 5-10 years for true 4G to be available in more than a few small markets. It just doesn't make financial sense for service providers to replace/upgrade equipment over and over again in a short timeframe.
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I dunno, one could say LTE is 4G.
lianw said:
I dunno, one could say LTE is 4G.
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So the Verizon lte is faster than hspa+
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nbochoa said:
So the Verizon lte is faster than hspa+
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Higher theoretical higher throughput performance. Real-world results are of course, different.
It all depends on the area (population density, etc) as well as the quality of the network infrastructure.
Here are some results:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/4G-s...e-holds-the-fort-in-smartphone-speeds_id17405
nbochoa said:
So me having a sensation would mean what I have is the fastest I can get or would changing my ROM help me get the "42 mbps" t mobile claims to have.
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The Sensation is not capable of achieving that speed. It's a hardware limitation, not software.
It's quasi-impossible to obtain the full theoretical maximum speed a network provider advertises.
nbochoa said:
So me having a sensation would mean what I have is the fastest I can get or would changing my ROM help me get the "42 mbps" t mobile claims to have.
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Max "theoretical" speed is 14.4mb. Speeds vary by location.
I can't get above 2 or 3, MAYBE 4 mbps on a good day, not sure why. I got 3 or 4mbps regularly on my old mytouch 3g slide using the HSPA network, I figured HSPA+ would be faster, not slower, but I have yet to pinpoint my problem. I was expecting a good 5-8 at least, but oh well.
As for Verizon's LTE, it's still not technically 4G. 4G is TECHNICALLY required to have a theoretical maximum output of 1 GBPS, of course, nothing would be able to achieve that initially, but that is the required theoretical maximum for 4G specifications. But there's nothing they can do about companies claiming 4G. Although what can they really do, they've already sucked the 3G term dry, and it's kind of a stupid marketing campaign to say 3.75G or HSPA+, it's easier for the vast majority of technologically incompetent Americans to understand if they just say 4G. But just wait for when the mass confusion ensues when real 4G does really get invented, then everyone's going to say "I thought that was 4G before! What's this 4G? We'll call it 5G!"
It'll be an endless cycle of marketing ploys.
Divine flaw said:
the reason why you are not seeing 3g is cause the 3g icon has been replaced by 4g. cause technically there is no 4g yet. its a marketing ploy to get more people to buy new phones. dont get me wrong cause its not really 3g you are connected to its more like 3.5g.
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Not entirely true, I do get a "G" symbol from time to time out her in San Diego when I am on the stock ROM, which "G" is 3G. There is a difference between the 3 bands, and 4G is much faster when you do get it.
SoFaKiNgStOkeD said:
Not entirely true, I do get a "G" symbol from time to time out her in San Diego when I am on the stock ROM, which "G" is 3G. There is a difference between the 3 bands, and 4G is much faster when you do get it.
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Uh no, if you get just a G then you're on GPRS & that is slower than EDGE.
If you're on a stock Tmobile US ROM you will never see 3G since they disabled it from showing.
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Not entirely true, I do get a "G" symbol from time to time out her in San Diego when I am on the stock ROM, which "G" is 3G. There is a difference between the 3 bands, and 4G is much faster when you do get it.
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thats funny..... g =gprs not 3g. think of it as 1g. and yes i do get a g signal every time i head down to the dungeon at work and i cant for the life of me connect to the internet. even on my old phone which was an hd2 i would get a g signal if im down in the dungeon. but guess what that phone had a 3g icon and when im not in the dungeon i was connected to a 3g network cause my phone had that icon. if you are telling me this g signal is 3g than im sorry your wrong.

[Q] WIlling to buy a friends´s Blaze for cheap. How can I get 3G using At&t?

Hello, a friend of mine of selling a mint Blaze at a great price. Phone is unlocked and I have service with At&t. However, when I insert the sim only get Edge. Is there any way to flash At&t radios to the blaze? I did search before opening a new thread,,, but wasn´t able to get the info I need.
Any help would be very appreciated!
Thanks!
Nope...edge only
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Are you sure? my wife uses the Tmobile s3 with Att and gets 3g. could be this phone runs different frequency's?
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He's wrong. It'll run on their H+ network, but that's all. However ATT's H+ mind you is very congested in a lot of places (NYC especially), but it will run.
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Are you sure? my wife uses the Tmobile s3 with Att and gets 3g. could be this phone runs different frequency's?
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It has multiple bands right?
iSkylla said:
He's wrong. It'll run on their H+ network, but that's all. However ATT's H+ mind you is very congested in a lot of places (NYC especially), but it will run.
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So, At&t adopted hspa for T-Mobile
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Your right its really bad in NYC.
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Why are you not using T-Mo? Bad in brooklyn?
Should be able to get hspa+ flash a at&t skyrocket radio fix your apn,
I know it works when using T-Mobile on at&t phones I just flashed T-Mobile radios fixed apn got hspa+ speeds, should work vice versa
Edit: heres some at&t radio's that can be flashed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2270071
I have a Blaze running on NET10 using the AT&T sim card. I can achieve H+ with it, and from time to time it shows me 3G then goes to H+ real quick.
I am able to get (depending on where I am here in Central Indiana) 1-2Mbps with H+ and in other areas I get 12Mbps with H+. Here at the house I show H+ with 3 bars right now and get 1.75Mbps down and 0.42Mbps with a ping of 148ms to a speed test site just 16 miles up the road.
I do have to say it is much better then Tmobile here, I was lucky to get 0.17kbps either way on Edge.
I can tell you that it will help you if you go into your settings and select mobile networks then mobile operators and set yourself to AT&T Network only, let me know if this helps any, it did for me. It has kept me from trying to hit Tmobile towers since I am on NET10 which uses both tmobile and att.

[Q] 4G LTE/HSPA+ on Net10 with Skyrocket

Okay, so heres the deal. I currently have a Skyrocket running CM 10.1 with the UVMC6 radio on Net10 T-Mobile SIM. I my home town of West Bend, WI I get H+ and decent speeds of about 6Mbps down. When I'm in Milwaukee, WI I occasionally get "DC" (Dual Carrier?) with some pretty impressive downspeeds of 20Mbps. I have LTE enabled on my phone but I have never gotten a 4G or LTE indication when in Milwaukee. Which I believe is a T-Mobile LTE area. So my question is if I switch to AT&T SIM on Net10, will I get 4G LTE speeds? It is not specifically indicated on Net10's site that I will, but they sell LTE phones.
Thanks!
It all depends on what net 10 (or whatever) are providing...I doubt those MVNO networks offer LTE from the patent networks at this moment, though I might be mistaken...That 20 mbps you get is HSPA+(DC is HSPA+21 x 2 = HSPA+42)...They sell LTE phones doesn't mean anything, most modern phones nowadays are LTE phones....
However, if you join T-Mobile(T-Mobile proper that is ) and in an area which is one of the official LTE launch cities, you can connect to it using the stock SR radio...
To know the type of network you're connected to, go to settings/About device(or phone)/Status
saleenman95 said:
Okay, so heres the deal. I currently have a Skyrocket running CM 10.1 with the UVMC6 radio on Net10 T-Mobile SIM. I my home town of West Bend, WI I get H+ and decent speeds of about 6Mbps down. When I'm in Milwaukee, WI I occasionally get "DC" (Dual Carrier?) with some pretty impressive downspeeds of 20Mbps. I have LTE enabled on my phone but I have never gotten a 4G or LTE indication when in Milwaukee. Which I believe is a T-Mobile LTE area. So my question is if I switch to AT&T SIM on Net10, will I get 4G LTE speeds? It is not specifically indicated on Net10's site that I will, but they sell LTE phones.
Thanks!
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Here's your answer after a google search for "net 10 lte".
http://prepaidcellforum.com/threads/does-net10-have-4g-lte-coverage.235/
lingowistico said:
Here's your answer after a google search for "net 10 lte".
http://prepaidcellforum.com/threads/does-net10-have-4g-lte-coverage.235/
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I saw that too, I just wanted more than one opinion, and quite frankly I trust the people on this site more than any other.
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It all depends on what net 10 (or whatever) are providing...I doubt those MVNO networks offer LTE from the patent networks at this moment, though I might be mistaken...That 20 mbps you get is HSPA+(DC is HSPA+21 x 2 = HSPA+42)...They sell LTE phones doesn't mean anything, most modern phones nowadays are LTE phones....
However, if you join T-Mobile(T-Mobile proper that is ) and in an area which is one of the official LTE launch cities, you can connect to it using the stock SR radio...
To know the type of network you're connected to, go to settings/About device(or phone)/Status
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Thanks! I was wondering how I could be getting speeds that fast without LTE. Also, is HSPA+ is rated for 42Mbps then how fast is LTE rated for and is the 20Mbps down that I am getting relatively high for cellular speeds these days?
It depends on tons of factors...HSPA+ at 20mbps is faster than the LTE I get....The only real plus to the LTE is the excellent low ping latency...
saleenman95 said:
I saw that too, I just wanted more than one opinion, and quite frankly I trust the people on this site more than any other.
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You shouldn't trust any people or site more than what your carrier tells you. If I were you I would've just called / emailed net ten and asked them directly :good:
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You shouldn't trust any people or site more than what your carrier tells you. If I were you I would've just called / emailed net ten and asked them directly :good:
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hahahaha....if you know how to turn your phone on by yourself than you know more than the customer service people at net10/straight talk. They only know how to read off their script cards. They have tried telling me that my phone is incapable of mms when i was having problems with the stock apn they provided. I wouldnt trust any infomation they tell you.
Those MVNO networks and their customer rep suck big time to be helpful at all....
I use my Skyrocket on Net10 AT&T SIM and the best I have ever gotten is HSPA+ 21.6 even in an LTE area... Net10 SIMs don't allow connecting to LTE networks.
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acejavelin said:
I use my Skyrocket on Net10 AT&T SIM and the best I have ever gotten is HSPA+ 21.6 even in an LTE area... Net10 SIMs don't allow connecting to LTE networks.
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More like Net Ten doesn't offer LTE.
ATT LTE on NET10!
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More like Net Ten doesn't offer LTE.
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They do now as of September 2013...I believe you have to get a new simm for $5 from their website to enable ATT LTE
Straight talk is now offering att lte as well.just ordered my new sim for that.will see how it goes.
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Well I got my SIM in the mail yesterday and did the transfer. Checked all the APN settings, but I don't have LTE. Yet my friend standing right next to me with an S4 on att is getting LTE. Hmmm.
saleenman95 said:
Well I got my SIM in the mail yesterday and did the transfer. Checked all the APN settings, but I don't have LTE. Yet my friend standing right next to me with an S4 on att is getting LTE. Hmmm.
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If the frequencies are the same as Rogers / AT&T then there's no reason for you to not have it. Try doing more troubleshooting.
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If the frequencies are the same as Rogers / AT&T then there's no reason for you to not have it. Try doing more troubleshooting.
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That's what I figured, I mean it's an ATT phone after-all so if should work with their LTE. But after some troubleshooting I discovered that my phone will not enable LTE for whatever reason. I will go into the settings menu and select GSM/WCDMA/LTE and it just auto switches back to GSM/WCDMA preferred. I am currently running CM 10.1.3 RC2 with UCMC1 radio, so I will try re-flashing that radio to see if it helps, but I don't know what else would cause this.
saleenman95 said:
That's what I figured, I mean it's an ATT phone after-all so if should work with their LTE. But after some troubleshooting I discovered that my phone will not enable LTE for whatever reason. I will go into the settings menu and select GSM/WCDMA/LTE and it just auto switches back to GSM/WCDMA preferred. I am currently running CM 10.1.3 RC2 with UCMC1 radio, so I will try re-flashing that radio to see if it helps, but I don't know what else would cause this.
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Try Rogers RUXUMA7 radio, I think that the UCMC1 radio has some kind of lock which prevents you from switching modes.
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Try Rogers RUXUMA7 radio, I think that the UCMC1 radio has some kind of lock which prevents you from switching modes.
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Well I don't know what happened, but it just out of the blue started showing 4G and LTE. So now it works and I'm getting 25Mbps down!
Rogers radio is working better at keeping lte enabled for me. I am on an older net10 sim and after calling customer service they updated my account and its working although my lte ping times are very similar to hspa... I'm on slim 4.3 build 1
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saleenman95 said:
That's what I figured, I mean it's an ATT phone after-all so if should work with their LTE. But after some troubleshooting I discovered that my phone will not enable LTE for whatever reason. I will go into the settings menu and select GSM/WCDMA/LTE and it just auto switches back to GSM/WCDMA preferred. I am currently running CM 10.1.3 RC2 with UCMC1 radio, so I will try re-flashing that radio to see if it helps, but I don't know what else would cause this.
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I have the exact same problem. 20 minutes on the phone with Net10 today and they said I would have to contact the manufacture(Samsung) to get LTE. Made no sense.
Go to network operator, scan and pick att from the list. Then try changing the mode to lte/gsm/wcdma and it should stick. Was happening to me too but this fixed it
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T-Mobile no LTE

I had trouble activating my SIM earlier. It did not want to activate when i did initial set up on the device. So I skipped thinking that i can activate it after set up. So for about an hour it would not connect to T-Mobiles network, then it finally did, with bad signal. All i am able to get is mainly 3G and H data signal, no LTE/4G like i am paying for.
has anyone had a similar problem before? Do you think this can be a bad SIM? Any help is appreciated.
Sorry to hear about your problem my phone isn't here yet so I can not give insights yet but will let you know if anything arises
Getting the same problem here, not getting LTE only H... this is my first time with a LTE phone so maybe my area doesn't have LTE, going to Uni tmrw and see if i get LTE there (which is should)
I like in Central Jersey so don't know if they have LTE there, i am pretty sure they have it in Northern Jersey, specially the Newark, Jersey City, NYC area's
U have lte in your area?
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Try setting your APN to fast.t-mobile.com instead of epc.t-mobile.com
Yes. You can do a zip code search on there coverage. My zip is 37075 its got great coverage. I feel its a SIM problem.
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T-Mobile does NOT have nationwide LTE so theres no guarantee that you actually have LTE where you are. Best to make sure of that before you do anything else.
And just so you know, their coverage site does not distinguish between LTE and HSPA+ since they consider both 4G.
No LTE here on a new T-Mobile account. My roommate has it on his S4. I'm hoping it just takes time to provision. Using fast.t-mobile.com
i get lte anywhere i go..im in miami
LTE is not a huge deal as long as I get HSPA+ its fast where I am. It shows Excellent coverage in my area, so yes I may not get Real LTE, but i should get good HSPA+ and cell service. Right?
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Try setting the preferred network to LTE. No clue if this will work on a Nexus 5, but it works on a Nexus 4. Even with the appropriate hacks, I only get LTE in my area when I do the following.
1. Enter *#*#4636#*#* in the dialer
2. Go to "Phone information"
3. Change the "Set preferred network type:" dropdown to "LTE only".
LTE started working after about 4 hours after setting up my new T-Mobile account.
Farva0412 said:
I had trouble activating my SIM earlier. It did not want to activate when i did initial set up on the device. So I skipped thinking that i can activate it after set up. So for about an hour it would not connect to T-Mobiles network, then it finally did, with bad signal. All i am able to get is mainly 3G and H data signal, no LTE/4G like i am paying for.
has anyone had a similar problem before? Do you think this can be a bad SIM? Any help is appreciated.
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What apn do you have? Fast.t-mobile.com
Mines been working great all day.
Azmuh said:
Getting the same problem here, not getting LTE only H... this is my first time with a LTE phone so maybe my area doesn't have LTE, going to Uni tmrw and see if i get LTE there (which is should)
I like in Central Jersey so don't know if they have LTE there, i am pretty sure they have it in Northern Jersey, specially the Newark, Jersey City, NYC area's
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I live in Sayreville as well, same issue. No LTE. I'm assuming it's just the coverage. I'll find out on my commute to work tomorrow.
chakra said:
What apn do you have? Fast.t-mobile.com
Mines been working great all day.
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I have Fast.t-mobile.com APN. I live in Nashville. It just may be my house. I am going out tomorrow will do more testing.
jimgreco said:
I live in Sayreville as well, same issue. No LTE. I'm assuming it's just the coverage. I'll find out on my commute to work tomorrow.
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I live in Nashville, well the outskirts. I may not have LTE but the HSPA+ should be decent. Like I said above it may be my house. I get crap wifi reception in here so thats probably the reason.
maramos said:
LTE started working after about 4 hours after setting up my new T-Mobile account.
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What city are you in?
Farva0412 said:
What city are you in?
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Brooklyn
maramos said:
LTE started working after about 4 hours after setting up my new T-Mobile account.
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maramos said:
Brooklyn
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Yep. Thats why you got LTE. Still Rolling out in my area. I am actually not upset about it. The HSPA+ is pretty dang good.
I've been in LTE since I turned on my phone. I'm in Connecticut
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My N5 flips between HSPA+ and LTE pretty much without rhyme or reason. Interestingly, HSPA+ is about as fast down most of the time, but of course LTE is faster uploading.
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[Q] No LTE icon? (my N5 only shows H)

Hello,
I have been using the Simple Mobile $70 plan for unlimited 4G data. Since I got my brand new Nexus 5, I was wondering why I am not getting "LTE" icon on the notification bar. It only shows H/3G which means (I think) HSPDA+. This is weird since the APN is set to T-mobile LTE (fast.t-mobile.com). Can I fix this if I change the service provider to, for example, T-mobile (assuming Simple Mobile 4G is not LTE)? I heard some people are getting LTE icon with Straight Talk and some don't.
Thanks for your advice in advance!
I went to dialer *#*#4636#*#* ,phone information and select network to GSM/ LTE(auto)
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eagle_j said:
I went to dialer *#*#4636#*#* ,phone information and select network to GSM/ LTE(auto)
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It's already set to LTE/GSM auto (PRL). Any suggestions??
ericjslee said:
Hello,
I have been using the Simple Mobile $70 plan for unlimited 4G data. Since I got my brand new Nexus 5, I was wondering why I am not getting "LTE" icon on the notification bar. It only shows H/3G which means (I think) HSPDA+. This is weird since the APN is set to T-mobile LTE (fast.t-mobile.com). Can I fix this if I change the service provider to, for example, T-mobile (assuming Simple Mobile 4G is not LTE)? I heard some people are getting LTE icon with Straight Talk and some don't.
Thanks for your advice in advance!
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it depends on if u have LTE service in the area you are at. For instance, I only get 3g service at my house , but if i go a block west of my house i get LTE service. Also i have noted that the nexus 5 have weak reception, some spots i can browse and make calls with my Iphone but at the same spot nexus 5 has no service.
And dont trust the T-mobile coverage map, its a bunch of BS. There are so many areas that I know of that have no service at all of any kind and are shown as great service areas on the map. Best way to find out coverage is to just go to different places ( indoors and outdoors ) and test it out.
fruitsalt said:
it depends on if u have LTE service in the area you are at. For instance, I only get 3g service at my house , but if i go a block west of my house i get LTE service. Also i have noted that the nexus 5 have weak reception, some spots i can browse and make calls with my Iphone but at the same spot nexus 5 has no service.
And dont trust the T-mobile coverage map, its a bunch of BS. There are so many areas that I know of that have no service at all of any kind and are shown as great service areas on the map. Best way to find out coverage is to just go to different places ( indoors and outdoors ) and test it out.
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You are right. The problem is it doesn't work in my house as well as on campus and in any Chicago downtown area. Maybe I need to try another provider? But buying a new sim card, porting, and changing provider are time- and money-wasting.
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You are right. The problem is it doesn't work in my house as well as on campus and in any Chicago downtown area. Maybe I need to try another provider? But buying a new sim card, porting, and changing provider are time- and money-wasting.
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You should try using an att sim and see what kind of coverage you get. Att is definitely more expensive than t-mobile and you dont get unlimited data no matter what but i see no point of having and paying for a service which you can not use. Also you can ask someone else who has the nexus 5 and t-mobile how the coverage is for them in and around the areas you frequent, it might be a device issue.
fruitsalt said:
You should try using an att sim and see what kind of coverage you get. Att is definitely more expensive than t-mobile and you dont get unlimited data no matter what but i see no point of having and paying for a service which you can not use. Also you can ask someone else who has the nexus 5 and t-mobile how the coverage is for them in and around the areas you frequent, it might be a device issue.
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My friend just told me the processor might not be compatible with the bandwidth that simple mobile uses. I also read some articles saying that LTE support is somewhat perplexing (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/170166-nexus-5-excellent-global-coverage-perplexing-lte-support),
and that AT&T is fully compatible (http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...y-compatible-with-atts-lte-and-hspa-networks/). Your N5 is working fine with AT&T, right?
ericjslee said:
My friend just told me the processor might not be compatible with the bandwidth that simple mobile uses. I also read some articles saying that LTE support is somewhat perplexing (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/170166-nexus-5-excellent-global-coverage-perplexing-lte-support),
and that AT&T is fully compatible (http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...y-compatible-with-atts-lte-and-hspa-networks/). Your N5 is working fine with AT&T, right?
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Nope. Simple Mobile is an MVNO that operates on T-Mobile's network. The nexus 5 supports all the bands that T-Mobile broadcasts on.
Does Simple Mobile even offer LTE? Because according their website they do not, but they offer hspa+. Which is kind of considered 4g speeds. No mention of LTE.
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ericjslee said:
My friend just told me the processor might not be compatible with the bandwidth that simple mobile uses. I also read some articles saying that LTE support is somewhat perplexing (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/170166-nexus-5-excellent-global-coverage-perplexing-lte-support),
and that AT&T is fully compatible (http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...y-compatible-with-atts-lte-and-hspa-networks/). Your N5 is working fine with AT&T, right?
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I dont see the connection between the processor and bandwidth. I have no idea what bands simple mobile uses but thats based on the radio of the device. As far as i know Nexus 5 supports 3g/4g(h)/LTE for tmobile and att, never used sprint so cant say.
Yes i got my phone from T-mobile and i just put my work att sim card into it, all that was needed was a reboot and it automatically picked up att service with LTE. Data speeds are great, getting 8+ Mbps with only 2 bars of service.
I do think that the nexus 5 have reception issues, the same att sim card in an htc one or iphone 5 gives minimum 4 bars but data speeds are around the same (+ 2~3 Mbps) but more consistent. With t-mobile, i was missing calls, receiving texts hours later and the phone was just hopping between LTE, H and No service.
brooksyx said:
Well that is incorrect. Simple Mobile is an MVNO that sells plans on T-Mobile. The nexus 5 is a world phone and supports all the bands that T-Mobile broadcasts on.
Does Simple Mobile even offer LTE? Because according their website they do not, but they offer hspa+. Which is kind of considered 4g speeds. No mention of LTE.
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Yes, I remember OOKLA test once peaked 14Mbps, so it's not just 3G. After some research, I found that Nexus 5 works with LTE bands 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41 while T-mobile uses 4 only, Verizon uses 4/12, AT&T uses 2/4/17/29/30, and Sprint uses 25/26/41. Is it a good idea to change the provider to AT&T, or Sprint? Do they support porting in most cases? Thanks.
fruitsalt said:
I dont see the connection between the processor and bandwidth. I have no idea what bands simple mobile uses but thats based on the radio of the device. As far as i know Nexus 5 supports 3g/4g(h)/LTE for tmobile and att, never used sprint so cant say.
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Actually there is a direct connection between the CPU and the bandwidth support because the radio is part of the snap dragon 800 'system on a chip' CPU.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
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ericjslee said:
Yes, I remember OOKLA test once peaked 14Mbps, so it's not just 3G. After some research, I found that Nexus 5 works with LTE bands 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41 while T-mobile uses 4 only, Verizon uses 4/12, AT&T uses 2/4/17/29/30, and Sprint uses 25/26/41. Is it a good idea to change the provider to AT&T, or Sprint? Do they support porting in most cases? Thanks.
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I would suggest straight talk if you want LTE that. $45 a month. Order their At&t based Sim.
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brooksyx said:
Actually there is a direct connection between the CPU and the bandwidth support because the radio is part of the snap dragon 800 'system on a chip' CPU.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
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I never really looked into the SOC on the snap dragon, the radio modem being on the die with the CPU would definitely effect the throughput. Thanks for the link, I have some further researching to do
brooksyx said:
I would suggest straight talk if you want LTE that. $45 a month. Order their At&t based Sim.
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You mean the one they call AT&T Compatible Micro SIM Card, right?
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You mean the one they call AT&T Compatible Micro SIM Card, right?
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Yup. That's the one.
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