Headphone Noise - General Questions and Answers

I've recently purchased a ThL T100s comming from an iphone 4, and I'm generally happy with the trade but there's one thing that really bothers me which is the sound loudness and quality on the ThL T100s. When I received it I noticed the sound(even at max) was toooo low so I searched for a way to remove the limitation. First thing that worked was Poweramp, but the sound was really distorted at max volume.. Then I installed gravitybox and throw engineering mode I changed some values(I believe more than I had too) and the volume is louder but still with some distortion. But the thing is, this only happens when I plug in the headphones, when I use my BT headphones I don't get that distortion and they even seem to haver a louder sound than the wired ones, although I changed audio settings in engineering mode to the same values for both... I had try other wired headphones and I get the same result, also on iphone with the wired phones the sound is louder that in the T100s and I get no distortion for the exact same tracks.
So what I would like to know is:
Is there any way to reset Engineering mode settings?
Anyone else has had this exact same problem? Especially with this particular model?
Could it be an hardware problem? Or just not as good of an hardware compared to the iphone?
Sorry if the post seems a bit confusing, but I would really like to solve this since I spend a lot of time on public transportation and I highly value good sounding music(and loud).

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[Q] Sound quality concern

I've noticed that quality of sound when I connect speakers (3.5mm Jack) is poor.
Music sounds tinny and distorted. If I play the same file using my Nexus S, it sounds crystal clear.
Has anyone else found this or do I have a fault with my unit?
Thanks.
I'm also interested. It could be a deal breaker for me. It would be great if someone could dig up what A/D converter is used in Transformer (but it would probably require taking it apart ). It would be great if USB sound cards worked with Android.
If anyone who has one could run a test it would be much appreciated.
I'll add in my request for some info. Good sound is vital...
Do you get bad sound with headphones as well? Or just with the speakers?
BongoBong said:
Do you get bad sound with headphones as well? Or just with the speakers?
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Headphones a well.
I'm more inclined to think it's a fault as it really is awful.
just tested music via spotify. Sound through headphones is fine - pretty decent in fact.
<edit> youtybe vids sound fine also. <edit>
heard reports sound quality is fine, could be a damaged one you have?
You should also try checking if it's possible to put the jack deeper into the slot. The behavior you observed could be caused by bad contact. Also move the jack a little (rotate it) during playing music and check if the sound quality changes - maybe it's a little loose. But then it wouldn't be the same for headphones and speakers, so probably it's not it.
I got my transformer 32 two days ago and it worked perfectly, then today I have gotten my first SoD, and just recently my sound has gotten these same symptoms. Sound from both the speakers and headphone jack is very, VERY tinny and low quality. I thought it was linked to an app I just installed as it was not installed before when it worked fine, but the problem persists post-uninstalation. If anyone finds a fix to this PLEASE SHARE. I'd really rather not have to do an RMA already! :/
UPDATE: Now there is no sound period. I can not get anything to play from the speakers, headphones, OR over bluetooth. fun! *sarcasm*
UPDATE 2: Restart, sound is back, still fuzzy. Possibly a SRS Driver error? Perhaps the 'SRS Surround Sound' is more trouble than it's worth. Anyone know of a default driver that I could try and flash?
UPDATE 3: Sucked it up, backed up my files and did a factory reset. Sound is now back to normal sans the bad app. I'll update if it goes to **** again but let's just get this fixed Asus!
Interesting thread! I'm on day 4.5 and my speakers are tinny, which I'm saying is ok for audio only..yet not music, not even close.
But, a new world with headphone/ear buds and I discovered something interesting that I don't understand after playing around for 2+ hours. Yet now I'm really, really pleased.
My new Monster Turbine ear buds that are really nice on my iPod Touch to enhance give me an tinny sound like quality and are my newest. A 'no go' and I almost thought I had speaker problems.
But, my regular/standard iPod Touch ear buds and my Boise Headphones are really, really nice for sound quality...bass, deep sounds, etc.
I know I don't know enough about ear buds/headphones, but surprised that the ones I thought would work the best...didn't come close.
I do plan to watch them while I still have my 'return period', but super nice audio with the right ear buds/headphone only(s).
Similar issues:
Sound was fine for the first 3 or 4 day, then i started experiencing the same tinny sound, vocals almost seemed slurred audio quality was so bad, however notification sounds seemed fine. This lasted 2 days then magically the sound returned to normal. Again about 3 days later the same poor sound returned, so I searched these forums and someone had posted doing a factory reset which worked, however I do not want to be having to do this each and every time the sound goes fuzzy. Since the .13 update the whole poor sound good sound returning has happend once more....very frustrating
My 3.5mm jack works fine (day 6 for me). Sound quality is better than any other android device I've used. Volume is a little low but otherwise sounds fine.
My sound goes to crap every few days. Crackling, distortion, etc. A reboot always fixes temporarily. Clearly a software problem.
Going to miss the Dolby Mobile sound on the Iconia. While not perfect it was really good. Will see how the TF sound stacks up when it comes in tmrw!
GeekSpeak411 said:
UPDATE 3: Sucked it up, backed up my files and did a factory reset. Sound is now back to normal sans the bad app. I'll update if it goes to **** again but let's just get this fixed Asus!
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You mentioned a bad app. What app was it?
I've just sound tested my TF the other day, and was quite impressed with the sound quality from the drivers. I did a comparison between my TF and my iPod touch using sennheiser bass driven earbuds. I'm definitely getting more clarity and bass from the TF than I am from the iPod. It sounded amazing. With that said though, I know there's a bug sometimes where I guess the sound driver isn't working properly and my movies start sounding like they're using 8-bit sound output.
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Damn! I thought my TF had rubbish sound, and then found this thread, rebooted and sound became magnificent!

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has anyone found a successful way to boost volume ? seems a bit quiet on headphones as well as speakers.
i know my dad bought a cheap mp3 player and there was a software limit to headphones due to EU regulations !? is anyone in the US finding the volume low ?
Ive been using Equalizer app and its pretty good. But since 3.1 I'm getting alot of fc. Also if I am running playerpro I can't enable Equalizer. I need tofc playerpro first and then launch Equalizer in order for it to work. Even with Equalizer the speakers sucks. Hopefully there's a fix soon with the right and left speakers
My volume goes to 11 on my US Transformer. If you turn it all the way up the speakers are distorting so bad I thought they we going to pop. Definitely overdriving them.
jerrykur said:
My volume goes to 11 on my US Transformer. If you turn it all the way up the speakers are distorting so bad I thought they we going to pop. Definitely overdriving them.
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lol..... movie buff maybe ?
seriously though my dads mp3 player was limited to a specific volume on UK settings. he changed to US and the volume significantly increased.....
We get all sorts of strange 'directives' from the EU..... including rules on banana curves !
www.itpro.co.uk/615685/rnid-welcomes-eu-mp3-volume-standards
US transformer and the volume was too low with my crappy over the ear headphones, but was louder with a borrowed pair of the standard iphone headphones (in-ear) ... still could have used more volume though. This was while on an airplane so it was a noisy environment.
I am using "audio+ (volume boost)" works wonders
Do any of these apps allow you to change the balance on left/right speaker? I'm looking for something that will let me play a video file with only the left speaker or only the right speaker. Anyone know of anything?

Headphone output is incredibly disappointing

The entire audio experience with anything plugged in to the headphone jack is really poor. I immediately noticed a difference in quality as compared to my old LG V10 (even without the Hi-Fi DAC on the V10 enabled). Everything sounded muddy, with a lack of treble. I messed around with the equalizer and got really strange results. Adding treble or bass actually lowered the volume significantly. I tried the "Adapt Sound" feature, and it helped slightly, but I've recently noticed what I consider the weirdest part of the experience. The last 2 clicks of volume (the highest two settings) have significantly less treble than anywhere else in the volume range. This was the source of the muddiness I had been experiencing (the amp is weak enough that the top two volume settings are what I would consider to be normal listening volume). If you listen carefully, you can actually hear certain parts of the sound (bass, vocals, treble, depending on the song) will stay at exactly the same volume while others will increase with the volume slider.
I don't know if this is a software thing (horrible EQ coding), or a hardware thing (the amp is so poor that they have to limit the overall power when you increase the treble or bass). Either way, I've never experienced this before in any other phone I've ever had.
I listen to a lot of music via headphones or aux cable on my phone, so this is a really disappointing discovery for me. Looks like I'll be bringing my headphone amp with me, even for use with headphones that really shouldn't need it (60 ohms). There is a range of volume where things sound acceptable, but it's crazy to me that I need an external device to control the volume because things get so crazy when I control it with the phone.
Then go back to the V10?
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Then go back to the V10?
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I wasn't posting this to bash the phone. There are lots of things I like better about the S7E than the V10. I just wanted to post this in case it was important to someone else deciding whether or not to choose this phone. It's not a deal breaker for me. In fact, I still haven't turned my V10 in (T-Mobile Jump on Demand), so I could easily still keep it. But I'm not going to.
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Then go back to the V10?
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Calm down, he's found an issue and is looking to see if anybody else is having the same issue. I see nothing wrong with that.
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dodgeboy said:
The entire audio experience with anything plugged in to the headphone jack is really poor. I immediately noticed a difference in quality as compared to my old LG V10 (even without the Hi-Fi DAC on the V10 enabled). Everything sounded muddy, with a lack of treble. I messed around with the equalizer and got really strange results. Adding treble or bass actually lowered the volume significantly. I tried the "Adapt Sound" feature, and it helped slightly, but I've recently noticed what I consider the weirdest part of the experience. The last 2 clicks of volume (the highest two settings) have significantly less treble than anywhere else in the volume range. This was the source of the muddiness I had been experiencing (the amp is weak enough that the top two volume settings are what I would consider to be normal listening volume). If you listen carefully, you can actually hear certain parts of the sound (bass, vocals, treble, depending on the song) will stay at exactly the same volume while others will increase with the volume slider.
I don't know if this is a software thing (horrible EQ coding), or a hardware thing (the amp is so poor that they have to limit the overall power when you increase the treble or bass). Either way, I've never experienced this before in any other phone I've ever had.
I listen to a lot of music via headphones or aux cable on my phone, so this is a really disappointing discovery for me. Looks like I'll be bringing my headphone amp with me, even for use with headphones that really shouldn't need it (60 ohms). There is a range of volume where things sound acceptable, but it's crazy to me that I need an external device to control the volume because things get so crazy when I control it with the phone.
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I've not noticed this myself but I'm not as big with my music (through my headphones) as some people. I listen through my bluetooth speaker and rarely through headphones so when I do I wouldn't really notice anything like this.
Are the DAC`s the same in both SD820 and Exynos variants? exynos have always had the Wolfson DAC in reasent galaxys which is awsome!
I think there are different DAC's. The Exynos uses one from the company that used to provide the Wolfson chip. So it could be the same/similar one or another model. I think so far nobody knows for sure. The SD820 uses a different DAC.
does everybody have the EQ in sound settings?
johanbiff said:
does everybody have the EQ in sound settings?
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Yes but it sucks. If you raise the treble it will lower bass/mids etc. Really crappy EQ totally unusable for music lovers.
Though I find my Harman Kardon CL headphones sounds fine. Not as fine as in my Huawei Mate 8 perhaps but good enough.
dodgeboy said:
The entire audio experience with anything plugged in to the headphone jack is really poor. I immediately noticed a difference in quality as compared to my old LG V10 (even without the Hi-Fi DAC on the V10 enabled). Everything sounded muddy, with a lack of treble. I messed around with the equalizer and got really strange results. Adding treble or bass actually lowered the volume significantly. I tried the "Adapt Sound" feature, and it helped slightly, but I've recently noticed what I consider the weirdest part of the experience. The last 2 clicks of volume (the highest two settings) have significantly less treble than anywhere else in the volume range. This was the source of the muddiness I had been experiencing (the amp is weak enough that the top two volume settings are what I would consider to be normal listening volume). If you listen carefully, you can actually hear certain parts of the sound (bass, vocals, treble, depending on the song) will stay at exactly the same volume while others will increase with the volume slider.
I don't know if this is a software thing (horrible EQ coding), or a hardware thing (the amp is so poor that they have to limit the overall power when you increase the treble or bass). Either way, I've never experienced this before in any other phone I've ever had.
I listen to a lot of music via headphones or aux cable on my phone, so this is a really disappointing discovery for me. Looks like I'll be bringing my headphone amp with me, even for use with headphones that really shouldn't need it (60 ohms). There is a range of volume where things sound acceptable, but it's crazy to me that I need an external device to control the volume because things get so crazy when I control it with the phone.
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Let me guess, you are using a Snapdragon 820 variant ? The Qualcomm DAC (which is used on these devices) is being known for being average (at best, if not mediocre), every Samsung device sporting a Qualcomm chipset has been known to feature a poor DAC, it is sad that Qualcomm does not care much about improving its performances in the sound department. You would have had better luck with the Exynos variant of the S7 in that regard.
I thought this was just me. Glad to see others are noticing this as well. I agree that upping the EQ doesn't change the volume at all. Furthermore, adding bass doesn't isolate the bass, it just sounds like the entire song is played through a tube. Every adjustment seems to touch the entire sound profile as a whole rather than just targeting the specific frequencies shown in the equilizer.
I've gotten too used to AudioFX on my Oneplus One, where I could really crank the bass while keeping the clarity of the highs and mids.
dannejanne said:
Yes but it sucks. If you raise the treble it will lower bass/mids etc. Really crappy EQ totally unusable for music lovers.
Though I find my Harman Kardon CL headphones sounds fine. Not as fine as in my Huawei Mate 8 perhaps but good enough.
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Do you use the presets or custom?
johanbiff said:
Do you use the presets or custom?
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I don't change anything I use stock neutral settings.
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I normally don't use Bluetooth audio but I did notice a huge decline in audio quality from my Galaxy Note 5. Bluetooth audio playing to my Denon x4100W on B&W CM6S2s and Hsu VTF3-Mk5 sub from my S7E is very flat, almost monotone. I would say the Galaxy Note 5 BT audio was acceptable. I'll need to do some more fiddling around with the S7E to see if I can improve the sound.
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I normally don't use Bluetooth audio but I did notice a huge decline in audio quality from my Galaxy Note 5. Bluetooth audio playing to my Denon x4100W on B&W CM6S2s and Hsu VTF3-Mk5 sub from my S7E is very flat, almost monotone. I would say the Galaxy Note 5 BT audio was acceptable. I'll need to do some more fiddling around with the S7E to see if I can improve the sound.
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I just can't seem to get the EQ to change individual frequencies, it seems to move the whole soundstage. Tuning the bass has an effect on every frequencies, at least for me.
I use Spotify, output over headphones is great. For some reason the same music sucks on Tidal, I have to crank the volume almost all the way instead of just halfway on Spotify so I'm rocking that instead. And with Tidal the quality isn't as good, I have no explanation.
jwhatts said:
I just can't seem to get the EQ to change individual frequencies, it seems to move the whole soundstage. Tuning the bass has an effect on every frequencies, at least for me.
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Root + Viper4Android is the way to go if you want a proper EQ.
Yeah the sound isn't as good as I was hoping for but I can live with it.
Exynos S7 Edge here and after doing a quick comparison to my iPod Touch 5th Gen, comparing its audio quality and amp volume through my Bose AE headphones, they sound the same quality wise, but the iPod can go a slight but noticeably bit louder when both devices are at maximum volume. They sound the exact same to me quality wise when they are both at the same volume. I haven't done extensive testing though, just first impressions. I wouldn't be playing at maximum volume anyway though through headphones, even on the S7 Edge because its plenty loud enough for my needs.
It should be capable enough hooked up to a car stereo.
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Exynos S7 Edge here and after doing a quick comparison to my iPod Touch 5th Gen, comparing its audio quality and amp volume through my Bose AE headphones, they sound the same quality wise, but the iPod can go a slight but noticeably bit louder when both devices are at maximum volume. They sound the exact same to me quality wise when they are both at the same volume. I haven't done extensive testing though, just first impressions. I wouldn't be playing at maximum volume anyway though through headphones, even on the S7 Edge because its plenty loud enough for my needs.
It should be capable enough hooked up to a car stereo.
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yeah im on exynos as well and I have no complians, sounds like my old S6 with wolfson DAC but with more volume.
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Are the DAC`s the same in both SD820 and Exynos variants? exynos have always had the Wolfson DAC in reasent galaxys which is awsome!
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Really curious about this piece of info. Can you back it up?
I'm a huge audio enthusiast and it's a nice thing to hear.
Btw, was the wolfson DAC also available in the Exynos S5? (900h) I currently own this, as well as the Exynos s7 (couldn't test the audio so far) and wouldn't mind pairing the Exynos s5 with a headphone AMP and turn it into a dedicated media player.
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Headphones volume

Anyone else is struggling with SUPER LOW headphones volume? Before OP6 I had HTC One M8 which was LITERALLY 3 times louder. I am using SoundMagic E10c(cable, jack) and I am wondering if similiar problem exists for BT headphones. Need some way to have music with decent volume, since I am listening to music basically all the time.
Any way to fix this?
That's true. I hope that there will be a Sound mod in the future
Nickerek said:
Anyone else is struggling with SUPER LOW headphones volume? Before OP6 I had HTC One M8 which was LITERALLY 3 times louder. I am using SoundMagic E10c(cable, jack) and I am wondering if similiar problem exists for BT headphones. Need some way to have music with decent volume, since I am listening to music basically all the time.
Any way to fix this?
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The same problem doesn't exists in case of BT headphones for sure... Its just bad with wired one's, really underwhelming! Waiting for some good audio mod to maybe help fix that issue if possible.
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The same problem doesn't exists in case of BT headphones for sure... Its just bad with wired one's, really underwhelming! Waiting for some good audio mod to maybe help fix that issue if possible.
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My earphone volume is fine. Using non standard music player/ equaliser and good bearphones
I don't know why people say it's quiet on headphones I've 3.5 jack. I use bullets V2 from OnePlus and the volume and quality are fine.
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I haven't noticed a difference in the sound over my LG HBS850 (Bluetooth), and I haven't tried my 3.5mm cable headphones yet.
I have OP6. After reading the complaints here checked with different brands of earphones. The sound is really loud and clear. Even at medium levels I have sufficient loudness. Equalizer too works well. I checked the earphone audio in Player Pro music player, Saavan streaming music and YouTube. I am very much happy with what I hear in terms of loudness and fidelity. I don't think the mentioned complaint is true universally.
vvijayakrishnan said:
I have OP6. After reading the complaints here checked with different brands of earphones. The sound is really loud and clear. Even at medium levels I have sufficient loudness. Equalizer too works well. I checked the earphone audio in Player Pro music player, Saavan streaming music and YouTube. I am very much happy with what I hear in terms of loudness and fidelity. I don't think the mentioned complaint is true universally.
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I experienced the volume loss as well. When using the phone in my car I have to adjust the radio by almost 10 ticks (from volume 18-20 to up to 30 now).
Yesterday in my car with the oneplus 3 no problems, but the 6 has some very low volume settings. It's kinda frustrating at this point, the volume sucks and the quality doesn't match up to what the oneplus 3 could produce. I think it has something to do with the equalizer that oneplus 6 now offers. This morning while trying to adjust the settings I've downloaded the snapdragon equalizer on top of the baked in equalizer and that seems to kinda do the trick (boosts the volume by a bit).
Oh boy, same here. Using a pair of M50x's, they don't need much power to get going but I've noticed it's not as loud as my 3. I have a fiio K1 amp but didn't work on the 3, figured it might! work on the 6 but nope! so I guess I'm stuck using a amp with the headphone jack.
Oneplus really needs to improve their audio output power, that's for sure.
So I just noticed something. Music is actually fine and loud ONLY when i am choosing ringtone. Spotify/Google Play/VLC etc. all is silent, even after installing Viper4Android it's still to silent.
I agree, the volume of the headphone jack is very low and the overall sound quality is bad. My HTC one A9 is brilliant when using audio files from the jack. It's loud and clean but the OP6 is too low and very bad sounding. Not for audiophiles. I tried with Viper and it's the same.
I felt low volume intially , but after 5.1.8 update I think the volume is good. (May be its just my feel ?)
I tried with ATH M50x and samsung stock earphone.
With the filo e7K the sound quality is good enough ...
Nickerek said:
Anyone else is struggling with SUPER LOW headphones volume? Before OP6 I had HTC One M8 which was LITERALLY 3 times louder. I am using SoundMagic E10c(cable, jack) and I am wondering if similiar problem exists for BT headphones. Need some way to have music with decent volume, since I am listening to music basically all the time.
Any way to fix this?
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I have cheapo ear buds with 16 ohm impedance, just like yours. Anything above 80% volume is uncomfortably loud. Perhaps your unit is defective?
chiming in, no issue here, brand new, white OP6... I'm smitten
for me volume too low even with viper4android
Massively loud with black player, amp and good bass earphones, even the speaker is much louder than my HTC 10
Give ElementalX kernel a try, I've flashed it and boosted my amp output. It helps! with viper4android I don't really need an external amp anymore. But.. it's still better
rajone9 said:
for me volume too low even with viper4android
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rajone9 said:
for me volume too low even with viper4android
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Same here until i have changed the headphones value (Rx1 and Rx2 mix digital volume) on the "mixer path tavil.xml" file located here : Root/vendor/etc
90 is perfect and you will see a huge difference ! Try and let me know. If you prefere i Can also send you my customised file ?
Don't what y'all talking about, the sound over the headphone jack is so loud to the point I set it only at 60-70%... And the quality is great too, Had a nexus 6p and LG G5 before this one.. but i tried a lot of phones
This one is really loud with great quality overall
ramqashou said:
Don't what y'all talking about, the sound over the headphone jack is so loud to the point I set it only at 60-70%... And the quality is great too, Had a nexus 6p and LG G5 before this one.. but i tried a lot of phones
This one is really loud with great quality overall
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Probably because you're leaving outside Europe and not aware of the EU Volume limitation...

Bluetooth headphone low volume?

Today I've bought Sony MDR WF-XB700's and sound quality is great but I feel like the maximum volume is too low for me, I listen to music loudly and these I think are normal for most of the people but I feel like bass could punch a lot harder but I just can't turn up the volume that high. I've tried the disable absolute volume for bluetooth and tried increasing the gain from viper4android (rooted) but it just clips the sound, I'm looking for anything even rooted solutions, thanks. Phone is LG G7.
Really is this problem that bad that no one knows how to solve? I'll end up returning them in the last it seems like.

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