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I have a myTouch 3G running Cyanogen's 4.0.2 rom and am looking to try out some Hero roms. I am very unfamiliar with linux and uncomfortable with the process. To get Cyanogen's 4.0.2 rom on my phone I used the one click root method. Also I do no know how and need help partitioning my sd card for the hero rom. Another important thing I think maybe is that I am still on the original radio and spl as I haven't flashed either of those. So anyone looking to help me like I said I will be willing to pay. I know there are people who don't show you how to do it, but will flash for you and that's not what I'm looking for. I need someone to show me the process so that I can learn and do it myself.
I would avoid flashing the radio if I were you. Especially if you have the myTouch3G. Also you don't really need to flash the SPL unless you tried to load a particular ROM and it failed. There shouldn't be a need to pay, and if anything if you take the time to search around these forums you should be able to find everything you need.
radikaled said:
I would avoid flashing the radio if I were you. Especially if you have the myTouch3G. Also you don't really need to flash the SPL unless you tried to load a particular ROM and it failed. There shouldn't be a need to pay, and if anything if you take the time to search around these forums you should be able to find everything you need.
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I agree, since we praise open source, I doubt anyone will want money for helping..
We all help each others
My recommendation to the partitions is to check the threat about recovery-RAv1.2.1.img.. this makes it automatically!!! But, most of the hero ROM's doesn't need partitions. I recommend you search a nice 32B ROM and see what people say, that's what I do !!!
Since you already install one ROM, I doubt that you'll have any prob with other good ROM
Anyway, help is always given.. there's even a wiki on the top of this forum
That help me out understanding a lot of things and there's almost links for everything!!!
I understand the open source and helping for free, it was more of an incentive. What are the reasons for these roms wanting or "needing" partitions? I will look at the few things you mentioned.
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I understand the open source and helping for free, it was more of an incentive. What are the reasons for these roms wanting or "needing" partitions? I will look at the few things you mentioned.
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I'm not an expert.. I don't know if I'm telling a big joke, but here it goes:
I think that is for pre-caching behaviors of the ROM. In laptop/desktop linux distribuctions, needs as well to have this partitions. The swap, swaps memory... ext3 is where it will be placed the root.. extra partion can be added fat32 is a common partition read by windows and linux (ext3,2,1, windows don't read the content of it).. The best thing is really to re-search.. the most you want to know the most you learn
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I understand the open source and helping for free, it was more of an incentive. What are the reasons for these roms wanting or "needing" partitions? I will look at the few things you mentioned.
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Partitioning is mainly done because of the small amount of storage that is provided on the device. The idea is to have your applications and cache installed (running) on a memory card (microsd). Depending on the quality of the memory card you purchased you may experience an increase in performance as well.
Generally speaking it's not really required and probably just overcomplicates things for you from the getgo.
Wow... so I tried a Hero rom without any partitions and I must say, wow it is unbelievably slow. I'd like to find one where I don't have to use an sd card, or I'm wondering if it's possible to just install the htc widgets without the rest of it. It appears to me the only worth anything on there to me is the widgets, the black taskbar, and maybe the browser. Haven't played enough with it cause it's extremely slow which like i said may be because i didn't use a partitioned sd card.
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Wow... so I tried a Hero rom without any partitions and I must say, wow it is unbelievably slow. I'd like to find one where I don't have to use an sd card, or I'm wondering if it's possible to just install the htc widgets without the rest of it. It appears to me the only worth anything on there to me is the widgets, the black taskbar, and maybe the browser. Haven't played enough with it cause it's extremely slow which like i said may be because i didn't use a partitioned sd card.
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There's some cool ROM's.. unfortantly for the 32B I don't know what should I recommend... I have a 32A!!
For having a 7 desktops home software, there's openhome.. for the clock widget with weather, you'll have like weather widgets donation version and beautiful widgets..
Here in Xda, we don't publish such things.. as link for paid applications, cracked, as some of the people are developers them selfs of that softwares..
There's other places..
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Hi there,
Sorry for the simplistic question but I've been having a lot of trouble finding this out. Normally you find listed the amount of storage space on the phone is available to store aps on (ROM - different from OS ROM), but I can't find it listed for this phone. Can anyone help me out? Surely it can't be the entire 16GB.
I'm looking at upgrading from a HTC legend as I am running out of space for aps and it looks to be a pain to put a custom ROM.
I think it's a toss up between this or the HTC Incredible S so any other points of difference or advice is always welcome.
Thanks.
damnable said:
Hi there,
Sorry for the simplistic question but I've been having a lot of trouble finding this out. Normally you find listed the amount of storage space on the phone is available to store aps on (ROM - different from OS ROM), but I can't find it listed for this phone. Can anyone help me out? Surely it can't be the entire 16GB.
I'm looking at upgrading from a HTC legend as I am running out of space for aps and it looks to be a pain to put a custom ROM.
I think it's a toss up between this or the HTC Incredible S so any other points of difference or advice is always welcome.
Thanks.
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1 GB for app storage..
Righto then, that's the same space as the Incredible S and that they are about the same price, is there any reason I would go with the Nexus S, or either way for that matter?
Since I saw some screenshots of custom ROMs on a Chacha, that had a dialer on the screen I would like to ask:
Which ROMs are really adapted to the Chacha?
That means:
- no dialer keys on the screen because you have a keyboard anyway
- keyboard usage possible in menues and lists
...
I would think about using a custom rom if that can make battery life longer and the phone quicker, although I don't want to have any loss of functions or a ROM that acts like a ROM for phones without keyboard.
So I guess I better might not change it, but it would be nice if someone could give us some overview on how good the roms fit to the Chacha and what the benefit will be there.
I also like to know,
cyanogen mod has some issues?
No one knows?? Anyone here who installed a custom rom?
The issues have been stated in the SuperOSR/CM thread. Check there.
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yes, i saw theme,
I speak about general appeal, is it worth it, and doesn't mess my phone?
thanks.
The problem is that even HTC didn't provide the phone with some software that fits to the phone. For example: If you want to start the timer or if you want to add something to your calendar, the phone will show you some touch input for the numbers instead of offering you to enter the time with your keyboard.
I doubt that custom roms will do better there, will they?
the problem is:
1. Cynogen mod team don't support the chacha yet, i'd like to use the cooked rom, cos i tested cm7 on my wildfire before, and it was nice and sleek.
Honestly if you want to use custom ROMs, get another phone. The ChaCha isn't the best phone for that at all.
Chacha is cool
I don't need a "rocket in my pocket!", my phone just needs some love from developers.
2. chacha is way cooler, with a trackpad, and bigger screen.
stayfidz said:
Chacha is cool
I don't need a "rocket in my pocket!", my phone just needs some love from developers.
2. chacha is way cooler, with a trackpad, and bigger screen.
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It's a cool phone, yes, I just ordered one myself, but it's not ideal if you want a large selection of custom ROMs is all.
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Honestly if you want to use custom ROMs, get another phone. The ChaCha isn't the best phone for that at all.
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That is what i was thinking too.
The problem is: The Chacha is one of the few phones that has the keyboard in the barren design. There is only the Samsung Galaxy Pro or the Motorola Pro+ with similar design, but both of them don't have keys for answering and ending phone calls. There are two Huawei (e.g. the U8350) but they have no LED-flash and the old type of touchscreen. So this clearly makes the Chacha the best Android-Phone in this category.
However: 85% of the Android phones don't have a hardware keyboard and all the other phones that have a keyboard usually have it inside, so they still have a big screen and a ROM that is made for use without keyboard.
Since the Chacha has the keyboard available all the time, it doesn't make sense to have any phone dialer on the small screen. Even the calender could have been done like on the Nokia E71 where you just have to use your keys.
And that's the point where I think that most custom ROMs are done for phones where people don't use the keyboard most of the time... A custom ROM would only make sense if you still have the benefits from the keyboard and if the small screen isn't filled with things you don't need because you have a keyboard.
How is the situation with the ZaSa_4chacha?
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Hey there, bought my chacha 2 Months ago, 2 weeks ago i rooted and flashed the SuperOSR and CyanogenMod7 Custom ROM,
since i did, i can tell you that i really feel that the battery life is now Better and ofcourse the Internal memory thing is solved, now i always have +100mb of Internal memory free.
there's a few bugs though, but i assure you it's worth it..
That's just my opinion
cheers
** i love the Chacha.
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Did you root it while still S-ON?
I did yesterday using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1452173
I'm totally new to Android and the HTC Status/ChaCha and I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what to do next. From what I gather, do I need to partition my SD in order to enable a2sd? I don't know what is the difference between a stock rom and a custom rom, I just want my phone to have enough internal memory. If you can give me a few pointers.. I'd appreciate it. TIA.
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Did you root it while still S-ON?
I did yesterday using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1452173
I'm totally new to Android and the HTC Status/ChaCha and I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what to do next. From what I gather, do I need to partition my SD in order to enable a2sd? I don't know what is the difference between a stock rom and a custom rom, I just want my phone to have enough internal memory. If you can give me a few pointers.. I'd appreciate it. TIA.
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You need to create an ext4 partition on the MicroSD first. Do some searching and you'll find some guides, I don't think you need a custom ROM to do it as long as you're rooted
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You need to create an ext4 partition on the MicroSD first. Do some searching and you'll find some guides, I don't think you need a custom ROM to do it as long as you're rooted
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Thanks for your reply. I did manage to read something about that but I have to take the SD card out of the phone, it said not to partition it while the card is still IN the phone. I don't have an adapter to hook it up to my laptop so I just ordered an 8gb microsd with the adapter to do the next step. So with that I think I should be good.... right? Lol. Custom rams sound a bit too tricky for me... so I'll stick with this for now. Thanks!
Nicraz said:
Thanks for your reply. I did manage to read something about that but I have to take the SD card out of the phone, it said not to partition it while the card is still IN the phone. I don't have an adapter to hook it up to my laptop so I just ordered an 8gb microsd with the adapter to do the next step. So with that I think I should be good.... right? Lol. Custom rams sound a bit too tricky for me... so I'll stick with this for now. Thanks!
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It depends on the method you use. Some methods advise you to partition the SD in recovery mode or with the Terminal whereas some say to use the computer. If the tutorial you found is good, just follow that and you should be fine
ydardiry said:
Hey there, bought my chacha 2 Months ago, 2 weeks ago i rooted and flashed the SuperOSR and CyanogenMod7 Custom ROM,
since i did, i can tell you that i really feel that the battery life is now Better and ofcourse the Internal memory thing is solved, now i always have +100mb of Internal memory free.
there's a few bugs though, but i assure you it's worth it..
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That sounds good, but do you have a good keyboard usability then?
Also, what are the bugs?
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It depends on the method you use. Some methods advise you to partition the SD in recovery mode or with the Terminal whereas some say to use the computer. If the tutorial you found is good, just follow that and you should be fine
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Thanks! I went to Target last night because I wanted to be done with the process ASAP but a 4gb sd card is like $14.99+tax. So I decided to get it on eBay... 8gb with adapter $7.99 total. Now I'm just waiting for it.
I keep on seeing such word in half of everyones sigs, It seems to be related to phones because theres always a phone model near the word. So what is a "ROM"?
It's essentially the operating system that your phone is currently running. It's like windows XP or windows 7 on your laptop. Windows itself is the operating system, as is any rom on a phone.
The key things about ROMS are how they can be customized (especially with android) to your hearts content. Let me explain;
A stock ROM is the rom you get from the manufacturer/network. Say you buy a phone, you turn it on, the interface you look at, the settings you change, EVERYTHING is the rom, and seeing as you havent changed it, it's the 'stock' ROM, it's the one made by the manufacturer.
But with a custom rom, you can take a phone you buy from outside and remove any limitations imposed by the manufacturer/network you got the phone from by installing a custom rom someone else made. It can have any number of changes from the stock rom, from just looking a bit different and being a bit smoother to completely overhauling your phone and making it feel like a brand new machine.
To install a custom rom requires a few things, read around more and when you've found one you want for your phone look for the specific instructions for that rom but it usually boils down to
-root your phone (actually you only usually end up having to do this the first time, if you flash a rom which has root, which most do. Read on, i explain what that means)
-install rom
-done
There may be extra steps involved but they just expand on that
if you root, it's is essentially a process to gain complete control over your phone, even to the most basic 'root' level) your phone and install a custom ROM, you have FAR more control over your phone, which is fair, it's YOUR phone.
Say you got a HTC phone because you liked the specifications, but didn't like the interface you get with a HTC phone (called Sense UI on a htc btw) and you like the look of basic android instead, install a custom rom which is based on plain android.
(using a launcher can change the interface and you needn't be rooted and have a custom rom installed to install a launcher from the market) (a launcher is something that completely changes the homescreen interface for you, and there a TON out there, that's a whole other topic i wont go into, but google it and search xda for more info. Infact there's a list on xda of nearly ALL homescreen launchers)
Say you wanted better battery life, a faster phone, or countless other tweaks applied to your phone to improve it; a custom rom is specifically designed for improving the phone compared to the stock ROM.
Individual tweaks can also improve your phone experience, but they are applied on top of your current rom (any they must be compatible with your device and then the rom your running, but when you read around you'll understand whether something is compatible)
Hope that helped, lemme know if it didn't
Have fun, and read around... always the best way to get more knowledge
yup, just to expand on that and offer a more technical side to the ROM and a bit about its history...
ROM is Read Only Memory
back in the day devices had ROM and RAM (random access memory)
The ROM was where the OS lived, if you hard reset or took the battery out it would always revert to the state in the ROM. In the old days any customisation was kept in RAM, this was not persistent and would mean you could lose everything if you pulled the battery out and didn't have it saved to an SD card, you could divide up the RAM in to storage and program memory, some devices had two batteries, one external the other internal which whilst not powerful enough to run the phone it did give it enough power to keep the memory active and thus stop you losing your data!
So anyhow, at this point in time around WM-2002 HTC had pumped out several devices, the mobile carrier O2 had them rebranded and sold as XDAs (that's partly where XDA-dev comes from) and came to the attention us, and XDA-developers was born!
So development began (consolidated)and because you were developing the OS to be flashed to the ROM, they become known as ROMs
even to this day its fairly accurate, the only difference is that from WM5 it was compulsory to have persistent storage, which is where NAND came in to the picture.
So there you have it, ROM RAM and NAND (Storage) all under one Roof!
Yes im sure that was riveting but its history and its always good to learn that there was life before iphones and Android
OptimusLove said:
I keep on seeing such word in half of everyones sigs, It seems to be related to phones because theres always a phone model near the word. So what is a "ROM"?
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Short answer: A ROM is everything what runs the phone
Thatgrass said:
Short answer: A ROM is everything what runs the phone
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short yes, but if I were to be pedantic, inaccurate
ok then, very pedantic!
In this forum the above definition of ROM is correct. In the computer world however, it differs greatly..where it refers to Read Only Memory, which would be counter-intuitive in the context of XDA.
vader860 said:
In this forum the above definition of ROM is correct. In the computer world however, it differs greatly..where it refers to Read Only Memory, which would be counter-intuitive in the context of XDA.
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Its not counter intuitive, the historical context of the term "ROM" helps define what one is. And that is a file that contains an Image of an Operating system designed to be flashed in to ROM on a given device
There you go, I think that's a short accurate definition of the term ROM.
its still good to know your history though
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ROM = Read Only Memory
Android comes with stock rom(company rom) which can be replaced by flashing a custom rom(third-party rom) if you are rooted.
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Is the Shield Tablet even worth rooting. I mean, it is stock android with Nvidia stuff. And rooting it just takes away the Nvidia logo when turning it on, and its few apps that do more good than harm. Is there a mod out there that will beat out Lollypop? Only thing I can really think of is Carbon KitKat, and I'm not sure if the Tablet runs crappy because of the hardware or because of the software. I haven't been in the scene for a while (and when I was I wasn't there for long), but my swag snapback wearing friend put Cyanogen on his phone (yes, they're evolving) from the Cyanogen website. Has this in it's essence killed the development for systems since they made it easier to run the OS? Much of the ricing vocabulary is jargon for me, so please explain it instead of avoiding it, for example I don't know the difference between a root vs. recovery vs. rom vs. kernel and TWRP vs ClockworkMod, Unofficial mods vs official.
What do you guys run? What do you recommend visual appeal, and what do you recommend for performance? Can I possibly run Carbon Kitkat while keeping the nVidia apps?
Mehhh I only rooted for xposed modules... honestly stock lollipop with a ntfs SD card to get around the SD card issues and root really isn't a factor in performance. Just using like gravity box and an ad block. I think if you have a lte version it may be more useful so u can mess with radios but I can't vouch for that.
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I only rooted for viper audio. Major improvement then without
I'd say its definitely worth it for the fact that you can move all your games off of the internal storage onto the SD card using virtualized directories (ie FolderMount) so the data appears on internal storage but actually resides on your SD (load times have been fine for me with a 64 GB class 10, HL2, Portal, TT Games, etc.)...although I'd probably root either way just for a few specific root apps and the fact I root every android device I ever get.
Side note: PLEASE don't use NTFS on flash storage (unless you absolutely have to)...it doesn't know how to cope with it and over time will have degraded performance. Use exFAT, it was pretty much made for this purpose. I've heard people having issues with exFAT on the shield (specifically 128 GB SDs it seems), but my 64 GB worked perfectly on KitKat and now on LolliPop
Since you're not familiar to the terminology, I'll give you the "concise" (I sometimes ramble...) summary of my understanding:
1. Rooting is giving yourself full administrative power over every single file and operation on your phone. Use this power responsibly, meaning think twice before executing a command and bear the consequences like an adult (or enjoy the benefits like a giddy goof!)
2. Recovery is a partition on your device's storage. Stock recovery usually only automatically performs the one task of factory reset/wipe of your device's data, but a custom recovery can allow you to flash (install) programs or even a customized version of the whole operating system (a custom ROM).
3. ROM technically stands for "Read-Only-Memory" but these days it refers to the actual operating system that's residing within that read-only-memory. You've heard of the Cyanogen ROM, which really means Cyanogen's customized operating system for your read-only-memory.
4. Kernel is basically a magical piece of software that tells your device's hardware how to function. So, if you use the wrong kernel, your device's hardware won't know how to function properly and you'll run into problems. But using a customized or optimized kernel will allow your hardware to function much more efficiently or unlock abilities that your hardware didn't know it could do (e.g. undervolting to save power, communicating with USB devices via USB on-the-go, etc.)
5. TWRP and ClockworkMod are both examples of very popular recovery partitions. Some people prefer one over the other. I personally like TWRP because it has an easier to use interface for me.
6. Unofficial vs official mods are best discussed using an example like a cyanogen ROM. An unofficial cyanogen mod means that it's not officially made by the Cyanogen team and is therefore not supported so you can't go crying to Cyanogen if you've messed up your device using an unofficial mod. Official mods are the stuff officially released by Cyanogen and will be fully supported by their team.
I hope the above helps with your understanding of some terminology. Below, I describe my opinions on whether rooting / custom ROMs are worth it.
I'm currently using the nVidia stock firmware, so I'm not using a custom ROM. The downside is that I miss out on the great customized features like clearing all recent apps from memory, or holding the Overlay button to switch to my last-used app, etc. The upside is that I get to use the nVidia-specific features, such as stylus-only mode (I use it a lot for annotating PDFs / research papers / drawings etc.) or the Console Mode for when I hook up the tablet to the big TV. I've tried a custom ROM and loved the somewhat increased smoothness and extra features, but I personally wanted the nVidia-specific features more than the custom features.
That said, I have rooted my stock nVidia firmware because I wanted to block ads without downloading or purchasing an additional app. I've used the root privileges to allow me to modify my hosts file to redirect ad URLs to 127.0.0.1, which gives those ads no data therefore effectively blocking them. That's all I use my root privileges for, and some of you might think "that's it?!?!" and to that I say "yyyyyyup".
Long post, but congrats for making it this far and thanks for reading!
amartolos said:
The downside is that I miss out on the great customized features like clearing all recent apps from memory, or holding the Overlay button to switch to my last-used app, etc.
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Since you're rooted, check out the app "Recently" from Chainfire - it provides much better control over the stock 'recents' menu as well as the option to clear all.
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Since you're rooted, check out the app "Recently" from Chainfire - it provides much better control over the stock 'recents' menu as well as the option to clear all.
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neat, i didn't know they made such an app! thanks =)
ben.nesheim said:
Mehhh I only rooted for xposed modules... honestly stock lollipop with a ntfs SD card to get around the SD card issues and root really isn't a factor in performance. Just using like gravity box and an ad block. I think if you have a lte version it may be more useful so u can mess with radios but I can't vouch for that.
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Same thing I do. I rarely flash a custom ROM if the device is stock or near stock android. Simply rooting, installing an adblocker and installing xposed framework is good enough for me.
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To me for buy the shield tablet is going beyond on your imagination, why don't try something new, come on is a piece of hardware, you just installing a software and why not with a such powerful device,you don't want more juice and control.
My ST LTE root and some utilty and tool apk got between 60000 and 62000 in antutu performance and stability, but careful in what you do.
I see many people doing modifications and having many issues and then spending a lot of time having to mess with their devices in order to get them back in order. If that's your thing great and I used to be one of you ...
... but these days I try and consider very carefully everything I do so everything works rather than spending hours basically being a mechanic if you want to use a car analogy. I want to drive my car not spend most of the time fixing it.
I see people with a lot of issues after they've done a lot of "do it because it can be done" modifications, their devices become unstable and then they don't know what caused it due to having five or ten major modifications.
One at a time:
1. Nandroid Backup.
2. Do 1 modification
3. Use your device for a day
4. If everything is working, go to 1, otherwise see 5.
5. If everything is not working restore backup from 1. and start at 2. again.
Now my opinions (as a half interested longtime Android user and a new Shield Tab user) are:
TheSkywayBridge said:
Is the Shield Tablet even worth rooting. I mean, it is stock android with Nvidia stuff. And rooting it just takes away the Nvidia logo when turning it on, and its few apps that do more good than harm.
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It depends - if there is some added functionality that you cannot have any other way then yes.
Rooting by itself actual does nothing to the ROM but it allows other applications that might change your boot logo. What will change your boot logo usually is using a custom ROM or kernel.
But you can absolutely make any firmware better by rooting your device for example by installing Viper4Android which will improve sound quality and a ton of other stuff.
TheSkywayBridge said:
What do you guys run? What do you recommend visual appeal, and what do you recommend for performance? Can I possibly run Carbon Kitkat while keeping the nVidia apps?
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After a few devices it's been my preference to use stock ROM's with custom kernels (sometimes) because I mainly use my phones and tablets to play games and with some rare exceptions the dev community doesn't get to the performance level when I benchmark them.
If I never played games then CM and other custom firmware is better.
Unless I'm mistaken there is no CM based ROM that allows Nvidia Shield Controller usage so for me personally it's even less appealing as a prospect on the Shield Tablet to not run stock.
Since I'm a new Shield Tablet user I've only used some LP version (which arrived with the tablet) then had an awful experience with Nvidia's OTA update when I attempted to update to MM after no mods :|
However I went back to LP v5.1.1 and it's an amazing tablet again which doesn't surprise me as it usually seems you need to stick 1 major version behind on Android if you want to customise it and run apps you like sometimes.
I'm now going to apply a custom kernel onto stock firmware as this has often been the "winning" combination if you want to evaluate ROMs using benchmarks.