Rooting Note 3 after updates without tripping Knox? - General Questions and Answers

Hi community,
I recently just acquired a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (N900A). I heard that rooting my phone after updates with Kingo will trip Knox. I have tried searching Google and these forums for a solution to my question, but I haven't found an answer. The best I found was http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528983 , and it doesn't seem to be asking quite the same thing and it's 4 months old. If I somehow missed the answer to my question somewhere on the on the Internet or these forums, please forgive me.
I went to the play store and updated all of the apps in my phone, thinking it would be in good practice. However I came to discover updating my phone would prevent a warranty-keeping rooting. Does this only apply to updating the OS? Does this include updating Samsung/AT&T's bloatware? The Samsung apps I have installed currently are: ChatON, PEN.UP, Samsung Keyboard Note 3/10.1, Samsung Link, Samsung Print Service Plugin, Samsung Push Service, Samsung WatchON (Video), and Samsung WATCHON (On TV). My kernel number is 3.4.0-1625098.
Am I good to go with Kingo rooting and not trip Knox? Are there workarounds for restoring the Knox number if it does become tripped? Is there a better method to root this phone than Kingo? Sorry if this message is verbose. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Arthur

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Samsung Pay missing?

Hello everyone! I got a new Samsung Galaxy S6 GT-920F and would love to install Samsung Pay on it. I searched on it on the phone itself, there was none. I searched on the Play store aswell, still, the application wasn't there. So I downloaded it from the browser and it would go past the " Authorize Fingerprint " screen. So I downloaded an older version ad it said that my device isn't compatible. I don't know what else to try honestly. Do you guys know anything? And the phone isn't rooten or anything, it's on stock 6.0.1. Thanks in advance!
I think you have to have a carrier phone to use Samsung Pay. At least with 5.x. I seem to remember speculation that MM would enable it on non-carrier phones but I don't recall seeing anything about this yet.

Some basic questions re: g930FD from UAE

Hi all, I purchased an S7 from AT&T and found it (unfortunately) to be a worse experience than my S4 due to Android System/AndroidOS battery drain and general jittery-ness of the interface. I tried many solutions across the AT&T forums, but nothing has worked so far.
So, I purchased a G930FD (which I should have done in the first place!). Immediately it's smoother, although it's too early to determine the battery life.
I'm searching around the forums for info on the G930FD but it seems like it's still pretty early days and I can't find a comprehensive "guide" post yet.
If someone who's active in the community and familiar with the G930FD wants to answer these basic questions, I think this would be a great start for a guide to this device. And, of course, it would be really helpful to me!
I'm being asked if I want to upgrade to G930FXXU1BPH6/G930FOJV1BPI1/G930FXXU1BPH1
Should I take this upgrade if I'm in the US? It looks like BPH6 and BPH1 are both EU Nordic, and there's no mention of BPI1 on the forums. This is "firmware", which I never had to deal with on my S4 but am assuming is separate from whatever ROM I'd want to flash?
If I root will I absolutely trip Knox? What's the realistic downside if I don't have a warranty and Samsung Pay isn't available on my model?
I know that on the G930A the current root involving the engboot won't trip Knox. It looks like there is a solution being worked on for the G930F that won't either, but it's not finished yet. If I do trip Knox, will this prevent me from using a third-party "insurance" service like SquareDeal, etc? Is there any other negative to tripping Knox for me? If I flash a ROM that has Knox removed, and root enabled, will I trip Knox?
I know that many of the eg stock ROM/Modem/Bootloader collections here are from AU or other non-UAE countries. Is there any issue with me flashing them?
Do I need to flash a particular CSC to use my phone in the US?
I know this is a lot of questions, but it would be really helpful to me (and many other newbies) to have these explained.
Thank you in advance!
Depending on type of root you want to do if it will trip Knox, if you install custom recovery it will 100% trip Knox. If you don't have warranty and don't use Samsung pay it doesn't really matter if you trip Knox. As tripping Knox mostly only affects the use of Samsung pay.
If installing roms just choose the one with the right feature set for you where the rom originates from doesn't matter.
For CSC it determines the region of the phone it's best that you choose one that matches your use so it's optimized but should work regardless.
I'm currently using tkkg's Superman rom and flashable CSC and I suggest you check it out, lots of your questions are answered in those 2 forums

Too Root Or Not Too Root?

Hi all i own a Tab s 8.4 LTE for a good year or so i did not trip Knox due to warranty and stuff.. But a month or so ago i found out about Viper4Audio so me flashing Twrp to install viper4audio tripped knox, yeah i know i could have not tripped knox.. if i installed viper4audio apk but the dam thing wouldnt work until i flashed it. Anyway once i heard viper audio wow im blown away now when ever i listen to the S8+ the audio does not sound as good as the tab s. So im wondering is it worth rooting ? the ones who have rooted do you regret rooting ? or shall i wait will root ever come for the S8+ EXYNOS With out tripping knox or am i dreaming for that ?
There will never be a way to root without tripping Knox I'm afraid.
You just have to decide if it's worth it for YOU.
You will lose warranty. You will lose things like Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, other banking apps, though sometimes this can be worked around.
I owned the S7E before owning the S8+, and it was the first time I have ever owned a phone that I didn't root it. It's a hard choice, but warranty is more important for me, along with Samsung Pay, Samsung health etc.
Just root. Life is bet with root.
Sent from my S7 Edge+Rooted+Xposed
I chose to not root my S7 edge, and the only thing that bothers me is video ads on youtube. otherwise I can live just fine without it. Custom roms tend to be too unstable for me, anyway. I won't root my S8+, assuming it ever comes out for the SD variant (bought it for dolphin, and I got it from Samsung for $524).
No. Not until we find a way to not trip knox.
I don't recommend you to root your phone you will loose Samsung pay feature for good plus your warranty. I can tell you yes it's a bit boring without having the ability to modify your phone but you can live without it. I think the stock rom is quite good and satisfies my needs . So again don't do it
Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk
No root for me. Root is history for me since two years ago.
Don't see the needs of it already. Maybe they is still one or two nice apps that need root. For the sack of that one or two apps really not worth to root and trip Knox.
I root for years any single device I have but yesterday I bought also a S8+ and I think this will be the first time not to root. So no root - vote from me
Same rooted my s7 edge just to play and get more out of it. I will leave my new s8+ Alone. Battery is great would love the customizations with root but its good enough as it is. Only thing i really miss is viperaudio. Anyone know of a way this can be installed without tripping knox??
I have the same question...
I always rooted my phone since Froyo.
I basically need it to: browse on internet "safe" and to use titanium backup.
I guess I can use some adblocked browser (any suggestion?), but I do not how to backup and restore the apps.. Any idea how to resolve it?
THank you!
e753 said:
I have the same question...
I always rooted my phone since Froyo.
I basically need it to: browse on internet "safe" and to use titanium backup.
I guess I can use some adblocked browser (any suggestion?), but I do not how to backup and restore the apps.. Any idea how to resolve it?
THank you!
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First phone since the T-Mobile G1 I haven't rooted and I've had 12 smartphones since. There's nothing as good as Adblock but I'm not rooting the S8+ and am using Blokada from XDA.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...da-fire-forget-root-ad-blocker-t3503374/page2
I'm joining the growing choir of new S8 Plus users who have decided to leave rooting behind them. It was fun and extremely useful for me up until this S8 Plus. My Note 5 will be the last device I root. It's just not worth the hassle any longer. Lately rooting has become too much of a chore on this platform for me, personally. I've kept Samsung as my daily driver for years because one of the reasons was that traditionally it was much easier to root compared to other devices. This was especially true when I was with Sprint as they never locked down their phones like Verizon and AT&T did.
At this moment, as far as rooting is concerned, I have the same feeling I did when I finally said, "Enough!" when I was jailbreaking my iPhones. Eventually I grew tired of the cat and mouse game between devs and the OEM. This feels the same and I think it's time to say goodbye to rooting flagships for me.
Now I feel that the combined hardware and software development on this phone has matured enough that I'm okay rolling clean and stock from now on.
ggrant3876 said:
First phone since the T-Mobile G1 I haven't rooted and I've had 12 smartphones since. There's nothing as good as Adblock but I'm not rooting the S8+ and am using Blokada from XDA.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...da-fire-forget-root-ad-blocker-t3503374/page2
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Hey does blokada block YouTube ads ? YouTube ads are so annoying ?
100% definitely do NOT ROOT.
Matt
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Hey does blokada block YouTube ads ? YouTube ads are so annoying ?
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I have youtube red, no ads anyway, so I'm not sure.
I have been rooting since the beginning of Android, every phone I've had. I stopped using Samsung in 2013 and went to LG, then to Google (Nexus 6P, then Pixel XL), and now back to Samsung. I was honestly a little disappointed with the Pixel and how difficult it was to flash because of the dual partitions. I am in the US, and the US S8 was a no go, as I don't appreciate a phone that I buy outright being locked down. I ended up getting the SM-G955F, and rooted it the first day I had it. It was so simple, and so worth it. I feel like its 2013 again with how easy this thing is to modify. I have Viper installed, and customized to my liking, and my ROM is bloat free.
I have a Canadian S8 Plus and I've rooted all my Androids since the first Motorola. Like others I don't think at this moment rooting would bring me anything really exciting. I've installed Adhell 2 and got rid of the ads and backed up everything with the pc smart switch. I'm missing the volume warning disable mod because I found it annoying but even that one is not that bad if I don't restart the phone. Starting with S6 the best ROMs were always stock based and that became more and more evident lately so until something really new is coming up I'm going to stay unrooted. I'm with Bell and there are only 2 apps which I would not want them so basically no bloat. My 2c.
e753 said:
I have the same question...
I always rooted my phone since Froyo.
I basically need it to: browse on internet "safe" and to use titanium backup.
I guess I can use some adblocked browser (any suggestion?), but I do not how to backup and restore the apps.. Any idea how to resolve it?
THank you!
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You can get rid of ads with AdGuard.
I am hesitating to root also.
I used Titanium backup until now and if someone has an alternative I would be glad to hear it too.
Did you try Helium? The paid version has many features but it will only backup some apps vs Titanium. Because of missing root it will not be able to backup apps that have "backup disallowed" enabled.
EMJI79 said:
You can get rid of ads with AdGuard.
I am hesitating to root also.
I used Titanium backup until now and if someone has an alternative I would be glad to hear it too.
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But idf you root arent there supposed to be issue with it when it comes to the bootloader?

S5 to S7 App/Data Migration Options

I've been on a Sprint Galaxy S5 for a few years now, Stock Marshmallow only rooted. I'm making the jump to the new Xfinity Mobile service, basically Verizon.
I have a Galaxy S7 (SM-G930V) that is shipping this week.
Doing some reading, from what I'm finding, when you root the S7 you run the risk of losing some things, Google/Samsung Pay, maybe some of the Fingerprint scanner functionality, and also have read a decent number of users reporting that after rooting the device just doesn't run as good.
The S7 on the way will have Nougat.
So, this puts me at a bit of a fork in the road. The last 3-4 Android phones I've had have all been rooted, so whenever I upgraded, I used a combo of Titanium and MyBackupPro to make the transition pretty seamless. Reading about all the potential negatives to rooting the S7, I'm trying to look for options to migrate all my apps and app data without ROOT. I've already looked at and tried backing up my S5 with Helium Backup,....but unfortunately it looks like it can only do about 30-35% of my apps. I'm not really finding any better non-root backup/migration options out there.
What about Samsung Smart Switch or Kies?
Another thought is how easy is it to un-ROOT after rooting on the S7? Maybe I just root the phone, use Titanium & MyBackupPro to migrate, then un-root? Any side effects to this approach? Anything that isn't reversible once you've rooted or that doesn't go back to normal?
Apologies of any of this is a bit noobie'ish.....I've been out of the custom Android game for several years since rooting my S5 right after getting it.
Thanks in advance for any information, advice, or pointers.
Looking at the Kies & Smart Switch options a bit more. Doesn't look like Kies is really supported on the more recent Galaxy phones, and Smart Switch really won't do anything more than Helium backup is going to do for me. :/

ROOT: is there a way of not tripping this Knox thing yet?

Hi there,
I just got my brand new S8+. The reason I want to root it is to be able to install Cerberus as a system app, so if it ever gets stolen or lost, I'll be able to track it no matter what. However, I'm worried about this Knox thing. I heard that besides voiding my warranty and "tagging" my hardware, I'll also not be able to use Samsung Pay and some other apps. I wonder if there's currently a way of rooting it without tripping Knox. Maybe by using KingoRoot, towelroot or anything similar? Does any of that work?
What do you guys suggest me?
Thanks!
As of today, none such root exploitation successful.
CapBlackShot said:
Hi there,
I just got my brand new S8+. The reason I want to root it is to be able to install Cerberus as a system app, so if it ever gets stolen or lost, I'll be able to track it no matter what. However, I'm worried about this Knox thing. I heard that besides voiding my warranty and "tagging" my hardware, I'll also not be able to use Samsung Pay and some other apps. I wonder if there's currently a way of rooting it without tripping Knox. Maybe by using KingoRoot, towelroot or anything similar? Does any of that work?
What do you guys suggest me?
Thanks!
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I wouldn't worry too much about it. You are still able to track, lock, and wipe directly from google and samsung accounts ana there is always Plan B app in play store.
Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
or buy a non-U.S. version phone, which work perfectly with U.S. companies (AT&T type GSM systems).

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