Stock 4.3 from xperia E1 - Sony Xperia L

Who is now porting Stock 4.3
E1spec
Android 4.3
512 mb ram
1.2 ghz dual core 8210
XL spec
Android 4.2
1 gb ram
1 ghz dual core 8230
So,is this possible to port?
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An update 4.3 certified for xperia M
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mukulatri said:
Who is now porting Stock 4.3
So,is this possible to port?
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1. Nobody as far as we know.
2. Probably.

Please ask some expert to do it
it would be great to offically run 4.3 on Xperia L

I guess nobody will ever port stock 4.3 from Xperia E1 to Xperia L becuase there's only slight amount of difference between 4.2.2 and 4.3..
We will soon have Android 4.4 by way of Cyanogenmod 11..

Soon? You're kidding, not gonna happen, ever, seen so many senseless debates on that, just be happy with 4.2.5
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@saurabh007 dude do you still hope it would happen? Avoid those fake hope it just spam the thread. Don't make joke of yourself
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jmreijnen said:
Soon? You're kidding, not gonna happen, ever, seen so many senseless debates on that, just be happy with 4.2.5
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utsavkoju said:
@saurabh007 dude do you still hope it would happen? Avoid those fake hope it just spam the thread. Don't make joke of yourself
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Here's your CyanogenMod 11
varun.chitre15 is working on one too
Bugs
Deep Sleep --> Fixed in various kernels (ThunderZap & Phantom)
GPS --> Fix by Brinly
Internal Storage --> Fixed by varun.chitre15 in ThunderZap
Bluetooth --> A bit more complicated, devs are working on that. Including myself.

Joery360 said:
Here's your CyanogenMod 11
varun.chitre15 is working on one too
Bugs
Deep Sleep --> Fixed in various kernels (ThunderZap & Phantom)
GPS --> Fix by Brinly
Internal Storage --> Fixed by varun.chitre15 in ThunderZap
Bluetooth --> A bit more complicated, devs are working on that. Including myself.
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Y
Great.. Since i hope that the rom really integrated with a kernel.. Not a separate rom and other kernel, thanks for the news.

Everything is possible.r u see sense 5 4.1.2 on very low end htc pico device
And sense 4 rom on galaxy s3
It is not fake hope
Get set yr mind
I m also a developer but I hve no much time to do this project.so I asked here.
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I know about those development. I am just asking not to hope any roms from the Man who must not be named . (Let him be Voldemort now onwards) else moderator will ban me .

jmreijnen said:
Soon? You're kidding, not gonna happen, ever, seen so many senseless debates on that, just be happy with 4.2.5
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utsavkoju said:
@saurabh007 dude do you still hope it would happen? Avoid those fake hope it just spam the thread. Don't make joke of yourself
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I was talking about Varun's Cyanogenmod, on which he is working..

Xperia M getting 4.3.xperia L not?

mukulatri said:
Xperia M getting 4.3.xperia L not?
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Who knows, maybe in the future. Chances are 'slim'
At least Sony gave us the AOSP binaries.

utsavkoju said:
I know about those development. I am just asking not to hope any roms from the Man who must not be named . (Let him be Voldemort now onwards) else moderator will ban me .
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[emoji25]...Now there is another thread to blame someone for no reason at all. Because being polite is obviously something of the past. And waiting is just as bad too.
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For developers: try to port 4.3 from Xperia M
Hardware almost same.
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mukulatri said:
For developers: try to port 4.3 from Xperia M
Hardware almost same.
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I find out that it's really easy to port a rom from another device so I will try making it by my self. Just need to download 4.3 FTF from XM.

damian01211 said:
I find out that it's really easy to port a rom from another device so I will try making it by my self. Just need to download 4.3 FTF from XM.
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Cool:good:

Great man. Best of luck:
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Is there anyone able to make a flashable zip ? As I'm getting error Status 7 for all the time in CWM... Can't flash it and test it if it works.

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[ROM] Any way to get CM for XL?

I know this is an early request but all i need to know if there will be a CM ROM for our device in the future?
If so, can we make ROM's for this device our self's? I have never made a ROM before (though tried once for XM didn't succeed) so i thought as there is kernel development for XL, we could even start with ROM development! :silly:
ishanbhatnagr96 said:
I know this is an early request but all i need to know if there will be a CM ROM for our device in the future?
If so, can we make ROM's for this device our self's? I have never made a ROM before (though tried once for XM didn't succeed) so i thought as there is kernel development for XL, we could even start with ROM development! :silly:
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Don't worry. Fxp will support xl for cm.
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I can't wait for CM10 or ParanoidAndroid for Xperia L! I hope they come soon
Yes. Even I'm waiting impatiently
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ishanbhatnagr96 said:
I know this is an early request but all i need to know if there will be a CM ROM for our device in the future?
If so, can we make ROM's for this device our self's? I have never made a ROM before (though tried once for XM didn't succeed) so i thought as there is kernel development for XL, we could even start with ROM development! :silly:
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Well, i built working cwm and twrp, and cm10.1 shouldnt be a problem anymore on xperia l, im working already on cm for my beloved c2105 so dont worry ^^
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I don't know how to tell you but so happy to hear this man Also making it for C2105, it'll work for C2104 too right?
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ishanbhatnagr96 said:
I don't know how to tell you but so happy to hear this man Also making it for C2105, it'll work for C2104 too right?
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yep
THANK YOU!
OldDroid said:
Well, i built working cwm and twrp, and cm10.1 shouldnt be a problem anymore on xperia l, im working already on cm for my beloved c2105 so dont worry ^^
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THAT is a relief!
I thought Xperia L wouldn't get much attention from devs, but this is a start! :fingers-crossed:
I think I want to build ROMs... I should start with learning how to
sudhamsu said:
THAT is a relief!
I thought Xperia L wouldn't get much attention from devs, but this is a start! :fingers-crossed:
I think I want to build ROMs... I should start with learning how to
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Google-the best teacher
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[app] xperia camera

HELLO FRIENDS
THIS IS THE XPERIA TIPO CAMERA PORTED BY ME FOR ALL DEVICE
DOWNLOAD
click me!
TESTED DEVICE
WORKING
XPERIA TIPO RUNNING CM10
XPERIA NEO RUNNING LEGACY XPERIA
SAMSUNG GALAXY S DUOS ICS
LG OPTIMUS 2X
MILESTONE 3 RUNNING CM9
NOT WORKING
NEXUS 4 4.3
HTC ONE 4.3
LG OPTIMUS L2 ll 4.1.2
To dev
If anyone have a good on logcat please help me to port some other devices camera apps
NOTE
IF ANYONE WANT TO TRY Z1
CAMERE PLEASE PM ME BETA TEST. XHDPI XXHDPI DEVICES ONLY
PLEASE DONT SPAM IF IT DOESN'T WORK ON YOUR DEVICE
HIT THANKS PLEASE I WORK HARD FOR IT
Unfortunately, it does not work on my Nexus 4.
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HELLO FRIENDS
THIS IS THE XPERIA TIPO CAMERA PORTED BY ME FOR ALL DEVICE
DOWNLOAD
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TESTED DEVICE
XPERIA TIPO RUNNING CM10
SAMSUNG GALAXY S DUOS ICS
HIT THANKS PLEASE I WORK HARD FOR IT
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Bro your zip file corrupted
yunussaba said:
Bro your zip file corrupted
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Worked fine here, but not impressed at all...
Really ? I cannot test iam running stock modified gb xperia neo and apk gets installed ,, can.u be able to port it for gb aswell ? Would be really great and this is the first SemcCameraUI port that I've seen so far ,,apk gets installed but crashes maybe fixable ? Thanks for ur work iam a big fan.of the Sony camera app
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For all devices?
this is for 2.3+ or 4.0+ ? and can you add some screenshots or a video? please.
kalel29 said:
For all devices?
this is for 2.3+ or 4.0+ ? and can you add some screenshots or a video? please.
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Actually it gets installed on gb but crashes as I said so I guess 4.0+ and up
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Corrupted for my
Me
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dontbelive said:
Actually it gets installed on gb but crashes as I said so I guess 4.0+ and up
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maybe ill try this later and install it manually cause im using an lg optimus l7 II and there's no recovery for this model yet,(im still trying to make one for this device),im gonna backup up all my stuff cause when something goes wrong i need to reflash the firmware,then root it and.....yes its a long proccess in order to get everything back.
kalel29 said:
maybe ill try this later and install it manually cause im using an lg optimus l7 II and there's no recovery for this model yet,(im still trying to make one for this device),im gonna backup up all my stuff cause when something goes wrong i need to reflash the firmware,then root it and.....yes its a long proccess in order to get everything back.
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Let us know
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dontbelive said:
Really ? I cannot test iam running stock modified gb xperia neo and apk gets installed ,, can.u be able to port it for gb aswell ? Would be really great and this is the first SemcCameraUI port that I've seen so far ,,apk gets installed but crashes maybe fixable ? Thanks for ur work iam a big fan.of the Sony camera app
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Bro I will work on it for gb. Thanks you like my work
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alwaysbboy said:
Unfortunately, it does not work on my Nexus 4.
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Bro Give some details please
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Running on cm10.1 legacy xperia but no settings,camera is fast and takes pictures
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Bro I will work on it for gb. Thanks you like my work
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Sooo happy to hear <3 love you bro would be the best camera app port for all devices ,,
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Bro Give some details please
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Oh, sorry! Well, it just force closes whenever I launch the camera app:
"Unfortunately, Camera has stopped."
Using Nexus 4 with PSX ROM (4.3)
Trying will report back
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tested and working on my fathers lg optimus 2x ,, can take photos and its fast yeah ,,
works:
-Flash LED
-Brighness change
-taking Pics
scene mode works
bugs :
-force close when open menu (press menu button)
-frezzes (stop working) when switching to video mode ,,
-no options avaible to change resolution etc ... (libs must be ported i guess , but dont know)
im eagerly waiting for gb port
.Zip =>.apk right?:sly:
naifaharsy said:
.Zip =>.apk right?:sly:
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Its zip u have to flash via recovery
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Hi,
always force close on HTC One (Insert Coin (Android 4.3)).
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[Q] Cyanogenmod porting

Is anyone working on such project.. I tried porting it and it just goes till bootlogo and does not proceed any further..
I ll share file if anyone wants to play with it..
P.S. I think we need a new kernal.. i may be wrong.!!
Edit: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2xOOGbG62gbX2ttQnA5bE1jblU/edit?usp=sharing
this is the link the file is based on Omkars rom
You tried porting Cmod ?
Of which phone ?
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If any1 want to port cm I can help u in porting
Just pm me your number
It will be easy to chat on whatz app
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@siddesh well I also think that we might need a new kernel ... or have to make a custom kernel
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well i am not proceeding further as i am really busy with work..
I can give only weekends but not sure about that..
I am pretty sure some init.d tweaks and better kernal would help and that file i shared will work..
Till then i m pretty sure someone can contiue from here..
Omkar$ said:
If any1 want to port cm I can help u in porting
Just pm me your number
It will be easy to chat on whatz app
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alryt i ll do when i ll get time..
You tried porting Cmod ?
Of which phone ?
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I guess the phone is huawei g330 which bears the same specifications
siddhesh1609 said:
well i am not proceeding further as i am really busy with work..
I can give only weekends but not sure about that..
I am pretty sure some init.d tweaks and better kernal would help and that file i shared will work..
Till then i m pretty sure someone can contiue from here..
alryt i ll do when i ll get time..
I guess the phone is huawei g330 which bears the same specifications
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Hmmmm .... I can understand
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Better we can make direct 4.4 caynogenmod rom .. here is full guide for this
http://crocksz.com/index.php/make-cyanogenmod-kitkat-rom-today/
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vvaibhavv said:
Better we can make direct 4.4 caynogenmod rom .. here is full guide for this
http://crocksz.com/index.php/make-cyanogenmod-kitkat-rom-today/
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I would be really interested to see this but i m not sure if our current kernal version will support this
Xperia m gets cm11 (4.4 kitkat), so does tipo, ace, fit, dio... can't we also try?
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afaquekhaja said:
Xperia m gets cm11 (4.4 kitkat), so does tipo, ace, fit, dio... can't we also try?
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Kitkat is absolutely possible.. you must need some porting knowledge and development skills ...
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Kitkat is absolutely possible.. you must need some porting knowledge and development skills ...
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But we need latest cwm to flash cm11[porting without latest cwm is useless]
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If someone dicide to port CM will it work on both I8260 and I8262?
Yes, cuz cm.is only single sim
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But we need latest cwm to flash cm11[porting without latest cwm is useless]
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And may be custom kernel as well.
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Xperia L won't get Kitkat

i just read that our device can't taste kitkat officialy from sony. even sp tooo.. may be sony will give us a 4.3 update. anyways am looking forward to CM rom.
source :www.justaboutphones.com/sony-xperia-devices-that-wont-get-android-4-4-2-kitkat-update/
Meh, everyone knew how small the chance is for XL to be updated to 4.4. At least we'll get 4.3, hopefully.
Well lets wait for the official announcement from Sony itself until sony announces itself
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we are still have a chance to get cynogenmod11
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Of course.
`epiee` said:
we are still have a chance to get cynogenmod11
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I've read that Kitkat is so close to be finished by Cyanogenmod. :victory: I'm so looking forward to release.
Sony will never give us Kitkat officialy.. (in my opinion).
But it isn't official yet, I'll just waiting for official Sony Mobile and Sony Developers statements...
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If we have CM11, we don`t need anything from Sony...
dont care too much , Perfect CM11 just in the corner . Need A Little Bit Time To Release Trust Me ?
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Yeh am waiting for cm11 i will be happy with it..
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AlvinZahran98 said:
But it isn't official yet, I'll just waiting for official Sony Mobile and Sony Developers statements...
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When do you think that they announce it officially? I think if they would want to relase next update it woud be announced yet.
tosik said:
If we have CM11, we don`t need anything from Sony...
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I agree
Both certified Bug fix updates Removed from PTCRB
www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=22825
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Last sony i will ever buy or recommend to a friend. Go to hell Sony.
mukulatri said:
Both certified Bug fix updates Removed from PTCRB
www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=22825
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they can't even fix these bugs..??
relax , still dont have any official information .
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Kosa02 said:
When do you think that they announce it officially? I think if they would want to relase next update it woud be announced yet.
I agree
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Yeah, but just wait.... From that website, that is not Sony website or Sony Developers website, and Sony didn't confirm that we will or will not get kitkat or 4.3 yet.
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`epiee` said:
relax , still dont have any official information .
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Agree!
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AlvinZahran98 said:
Yeah, but just wait.... From that website, that is not Sony website or Sony Developers website, and Sony didn't confirm that we will or will not get kitkat or 4.3 yet.
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I'll be glad if I'm wrong..
But no one Will get CM11, because not All of us have unlocked bootloader
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Dominator_666 said:
But no one Will get CM11, because not All of us have unlocked bootloader
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Yes, but if you want to you can unlock it. It isn't hard. I 've seen here topic how to do it somewhere. But some of XL cannot be unlocked thats true. We'll see
When an official cm comes no one would care about buggy updates from sony.. Seriously i don't want my proximity sensor to be turned on always..Sony makes us users or testers!???what abt u ppl?
When time comes.. The world Ll knoe
yes sony very stingy to update the device that may be considered "cheap" or "old".
They only make upgrade for "Expensive" devices like xperia Z Family.
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MIUI for Xperia L

Now that we have almost bug free CMs, AOSPA, is there anyone who's developing MIUI ROM for our phone. I know nothing of developing, but I would really love to have this ROM and maybe I can learn and contribute to the project too. I'm expecting replies to this post. Please please someone develop MIUI
man i've been sayin that for ever..i really hope that there is someone porting it to xl..there are many roms now and they have official support but i think they are all similar and the miui is the most unique one..
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i disagree with you @man_77
miui not most unique one
every ROM is unique !
i didn't see yet miui builded from source for an device it just ported
Can you give me miui source code link on github ?
i searched but didn't find anything
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David is right. MIUI is closed-source. All they provide are porting guides and prebuilt stuff on their Github account. Also many strings aren't even properly translated (so many things are in Chinese or English).
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well could it be ported from a sony device that already have miui like xperia sp??
shouldnt be easier?
and about if it's unique or not..sure every rom has it features..and the fact that it only can be ported makes it kinda unique
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man_77 said:
well could it be ported from a sony device that already have miui like xperia sp??
shouldnt be easier?
and about if it's unique or not..sure every rom has it features..and the fact that it only can be ported makes it kinda unique
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i was think on that
But i am really not recommend porting because it will not be fully functional
anyway i will give it a try ASAP
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it seems xperia sp have jb miui no kk
That's bad
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david makarove said:
i was think on that
But i am really not recommend porting because it will not be fully functional
anyway i will give it a try ASAP
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it's ok dude atleast u tried..we really appreciate that
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david makarove said:
it seems xperia sp have jb miui no kk
That's bad
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it's ok dude atleast u tried..appreciate that
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Maybe it is possible to get jb miui
But i don't think it will have large fans
Since most users happy with kk and they won't unlock there BL if they will still in jb
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david makarove said:
Maybe it is possible to get jb miui
But i don't think it will have large fans
Since most users happy with kk and they won't unlock there BL if they will still in jb
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You can try to build it from miui kitkat patch rom.
https://github.com/abielzuliom
This guy trying to do that but he got many errors .. Contact to him
First and formost.
MIUI v5 is based on the JB so we cannot port this rom to CM11 or AOSP 4.4. I tried it few months back but without success. There is no MIUI rom v5 based on KK so don't go for it. Either we need CM10.1 or AOSP 4.2 to successfully port that rom.
Secondly,
In case of MIUI v6. There is high chances of success as MIUI 6 is based on KK but its not publicly available yet. Its on closed beta and will be available to numbers of devices soon. So have patience guys. We will have miui on our XL soon. But we need to wait abit more.
That's not true at all. MIUIv5 can be based on JB and KK.
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That's not true at all. MIUIv5 can be based on JB and KK.
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+1
There is miui v5 kitkat -based (Google it )
but the bad thing it is for a few device
Now miui v6 released with fully new ui
But don't know yet which devices will be supported (to know if we can port it or not )
i take look at patchROM
i don't think it is good idea
anyway i think we must wait to see the supported devices first
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david makarove said:
+1
There is miui v5 kitkat -based (Google it )
but the bad thing it is for a few device
Now miui v6 released with fully new ui
But don't know yet which devices will be supported (to know if we can port it or not )
i take look at patchROM
i don't think it is good idea
anyway i think we must wait to see the supported devices first
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miui kk done for arc based on cm11
yash989 said:
miui kk done for arc based on cm11
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Link ?
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david makarove said:
Link ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-arc/development/rom-miui-v5-4-8-15-t2852237
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-arc/development/rom-miui-v5-4-8-15-t2852237
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Hmmm
i think i will leave that as last chance
but now i am will try with patchrom and i think i should success (hope that)
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i just read on gsmarena that xiaomi released miui 6..so are we going to hear some good news soon
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man_77 said:
i just read on gsmarena that xiaomi released miui 6..so are we going to hear some good news soon
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yup we will
Wow! I am very happy seeing great devs trying to port miui. I'm a fan of miui roms.. hope for success port.. thanks devs..
i believe the combination of David, yash and Oliver will bring perfect miui rom.. you guys are great.. I've seen your names everywhere.. liquidsmooth, pac, Resurrection remix, revolutionhd etc..

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