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AT&T is going to slow down unlimited data?

Okay so they are planning on slowing you down once you reach a certain limit they set with their biggest package 4GB I would guess its around that point, how are they going to trottle everyone's speed down to a crawl? Is it going to be like they trottled everyone's speed up in the past VIA software updates? Anyway just curious what you all think and hopefully there's away to not be stuck in a rut on this one, I do a lot of streaming, and multiplayer gaming on my phone...
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maxjivi05 said:
Okay so they are planning on slowing you down once you reach a certain limit they set with their biggest package 4GB I would guess its around that point, how are they going to trottle everyone's speed down to a crawl? Is it going to be like they trottled everyone's speed up in the past VIA software updates? Anyway just curious what you all think and hopefully there's away to not be stuck in a rut on this one, I do a lot of streaming, and multiplayer gaming on my phone...
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I have the 30 dollar unlimited plan and i'm using 5-6GB a month and i seem to be fine. But i cant imagine what other people are using.

It's not in effect yet, I do between 6 and 16 depending on if I'm downloading new roms and stuff too, but its suppose to be effective soon.
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According to the post on ATT Website, they are putting it into effect on October 1st.
Secondaly, they are only capping the extreme few that are using CRAZY amounts of data, and taht number was WAY WAY above 4g data.
I spoke to a friend at ATT and he stated that currently the cap was at 10gigs. Now, that could change but who knows.
The data throttling is not being done VIA software and such but instead a change to your plan. All ATT phones are tracked via IMEI numbers and thus the way they know who has what number and what data/messaging packages. All they are doing is making a change to your plan that will only allow you to access the EDGE network.
I can see this possibly being bypassed but will have to wait till the change hits to see what can be done to bypass this.

What dept does your friend work in? Mine read about what's going on when and stuff but they didn't give him exact info like how or what the limit was. Edge don't even work when I try so that wouldnt be right because it takes 5 minutes to load a Facebook status.. anyway whatever happens I hope the limit is a bit higher then 10 sometimes I hit 16 and I don't do mobile hotspots, and i connect to WiFi at home. Let's hope for a work around if so!
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I miss having wifi at my work. I use my wireless at home. My '4G' is pretty fast at my house though (4-5mbps).

Wow i'm dreading this I drive a truck for a living and use the wifi tether allot to play my x-box. This is going to hurt hope someone finds a work around!
P.M. please lift this 5 minute post restriction!
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Playing xbox? Wow! I have tried before and never get a good connection.

It depends allot on the host I connect to on black ops and where I am
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No offense but its people like you is the reason why tethering has been such a huge issue. Tethering (if you are not paying for it) should only be used for necessity or minor things like checking your email, post a Facebook status message, or upload a photo, so that you are not abusing the feature and bogging down the network/tower you are connected to.
mulio33 said:
Wow i'm dreading this I drive a truck for a living and use the wifi tether allot to play my x-box. This is going to hurt hope someone finds a work around!
P.M. please lift this 5 minute post restriction!
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cavsoldier19d said:
No offense but its people like you is the reason why tethering has been such a huge issue. Tethering (if you are not paying for it) should only be used for necessity or minor things like checking your email, post a Facebook status message, or upload a photo, so that you are not abusing the feature and bogging down the network/tower you are connected to.
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+1 on that one. Won't be long though. All carriers are cracking down and just read something new on the net that google is even getting involved with blocking illegal and/or abusive tethering in the near future.

Agoattamer said:
+1 on that one. Won't be long though. All carriers are cracking down and just read something new on the net that google is even getting involved with blocking illegal and/or abusive tethering in the near future.
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Wharz link?
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cavsoldier19d said:
No offense but its people like you is the reason why tethering has been such a huge issue. Tethering (if you are not paying for it) should only be used for necessity or minor things like checking your email, post a Facebook status message, or upload a photo, so that you are not abusing the feature and bogging down the network/tower you are connected to.
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Well no offense but you don't know anything about me. I have maybe time for 2 matches a weak! I don't abuse anything. I have never gone over 5 gigs in a month. And as mentioned I live in a truck i'm exactly the reason tethering is out there!
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Guys how he does his tethering is his business not ours
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It's all funny you guys are panicking. The slowdown is only going to be relevant to the top 5% of users according to my buddy who works in their corporate offices.
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Hiyabuz said:
It's all funny you guys are panicking. The slowdown is only going to be relevant to the top 5% of users according to my buddy who works in their corporate offices.
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Ive learned that att lies it will not be 5% it will be to whom ever they wish. My perdition is one people hit the 4g tether plain the brakes will be on.
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why so horrified? if you write a check and there isn't enough cash in the account to cover it, are you surprised when the bank dings your account with a huge fee?

Top 5% users..... yeah right.
We all know how this is going to happened, you hit a certain cap, say about 10GB, then they throttle you to slower then EDGE speeds.
It's all their plan to ruin unlimited data for unlimited data users......
Hopefully though, the cap is high, or they ACTUALLY tell the truth for once and only throttle the top 5%, which I'm probably nowhere near (I use 3-4GB a month), so I really won't have to worry about it, but it sucks for people who use 10-15GB a month without tethering, you must not have wifi around where you normally are. :/

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+1 on that one. Won't be long though. All carriers are cracking down and just read something new on the net that google is even getting involved with blocking illegal and/or abusive tethering in the near future.
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HEY IM with you. I use tethering and dont pay, but I never never gostreaming and never go about 4 at the most. Most of the time It is2. I have unlimited data. For god sakes it a cell phone not a pc people

If you have the grandfather unlimited plan, are they slowing that down too?
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WifiKills. good? bad? safe?

Check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282900
Any1 tried this app? It require root access. Any confirmation if it's safe to use?

Yes I used it once.....worked good .... tried that on gfs pad and got it disconnected.....
Didn't try anything else
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Illegal if it's not your wifi. People on that thread think this app is some kind of game, going to public places and disconnecting everyone. I find that as another low in our society. But proceed if you wish..
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It's obvious that there's a huge security loophole, but then again getting kicked off is just a minor problem. The bigger problem is when someone intercept the data you send over wifi. If it works i think it's a nice too to have if you want to take control of your own wifi.

qpqpqp said:
It's obvious that there's a huge security loophole, but then again getting kicked off is just a minor problem. The bigger problem is when someone intercept the data you send over wifi. If it works i think it's a nice too to have if you want to take control of your own wifi.
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Yeah, i agree. I believe that the developer for that app is working on getting it to 'hack' and block off encrypted and secured wifi, maybe even intercept the wifi and retrieve data from the user(s). If so, that thread should be deleted immediately as that is a much greater security risk. I have a bad feeling about the future of that app.
But what can i do.
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Me personally I like the app! But the one I love the most its Faceniff I think he did a damn good job on hacking people Facebook if they using it with wifi.I have seen so many things that I din't though my neighbors was people like that ..but thanks to his apps I know my surrounding! And about the wifi app,it a good app I like it when family comes to stay the night and they been using the wifi signal alot and I hated when i be watching movies on my phone it keeps stopping .so I just turn the app and kick them out of my network .... except me lolz
!!! I hope he keep doing a great job!
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If he manage to do that i hope it gets widely known so people know so people can find a way to plug the security hole. The worst security anyone have is false sense of safety.

There are enterprise level solutions that protect against this, but as far as the average user goes, it's a little above and beyond what a layperson could set up. The problem with WifiKill is there is no simple solution due to the way ARP packets work. The whole structure of networking would have to change to eliminate the flaw and really, you just can't expect that to happen.
What I don't see being a problem is it becoming too widespread in use. I've used it and about the 3rd time I shut down a whole network of devices it lost its thrill. It's kinda one of those "Hey that's kinda spiffy" tools, but unless you're a greedy whore it's just not really something you're gonna bother with.
FaceNiff on the other hand is a nasty bugger. But there is a REAL easy solution to it. Use SSL. I believe the FB app uses it and if you are using a browser just type in https://www.facebook.com. One letter more typing. The internet is a scary place, you need to protect yourself and when it's this dead simple, I don't feel sorry for people.
Wireless has always been a horribly weak system from day one. Just some articles on how easy it is to break WEP and you'll see you've never really been all that safe in the first place.

Wifi tethering?

I'm about to root and was wondering which rom allows you to Wifi tether without being charged by tmobile?
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emilianos said:
I'm about to root and was wondering which rom allows you to Wifi tether without being charged by tmobile?
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Edit: Do you even have this phone? The one in your sig is not compatible with anything found I'm this forum

brandonc0526 said:
Edit: Do you even have this phone? The one in your sig is not compatible with anything found I'm this forum
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rooting a friends phone:

Try Open Garden or WiFi Tethering (root) apps from market.

You've conflated a couple questions here.
"Which ROMs have a built-in feature for WiFi tethering?"
Most, if not all, do.​
"Given that T-Mobile generally prohibits tethering, is there a way that I can tether in a way that I am not blocked by T-Mobile?"
Yes, there are several ways that you can make the traffic appear as though it originated on your phone. Most, if not all, of these are applications, use of things like VPN or ssh tunneling, or configuration of your tethered clients. There are several approaches. Search is your friend on finding one that works for you and that you are comfortable with.​

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Ahh just making sure. But yeah, pretty much all roms for our phone have wifi tethering

Just use foxfi no root required
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Are you sure this works?
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Are you sure this works?
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Yes that works or just go to settings>wireless and networks>tethering. No need for an app if its built in but if you want one there's plenty to choose from

Wifi tethering used to work no problem on my phone but T-Mobile very recently seems to have changed something where they can detect it - on ICS ROM's - and block it in the browser on your computer. It takes a few link clicks to get the blocked page.
For this - I have to switch to a google related user agent to not have wifi tethering blocked.

lumin30 said:
Wifi tethering used to work no problem on my phone but T-Mobile very recently seems to have changed something where they can detect it - on ICS ROM's - and block it in the browser on your computer. It takes a few link clicks to get the blocked page.
For this - I have to switch to a google related user agent to not have wifi tethering blocked.
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that's funny, i'm using aokp (latest team acid build), and i was just using wifi tethering with no problems at all. not to mention that i'm not even supposed to have it since i have the new plan "truly unlimited 4g." the problem i do have though is usb tethering. i gave my team members a log to see if its fixable the other day, but haven't heard anything yet. its no big deal to me unless i wanna use it to tether my pc when our dsl daily cap is reached (which is everyday, but "i" don't use the pc everyday). basically just gave em the log to try and help those who do want/need it.

GFX.myst. said:
that's funny, i'm using aokp (latest team acid build), and i was just using wifi tethering with no problems at all. not to mention that i'm not even supposed to have it since i have the new plan "truly unlimited 4g." the problem i do have though is usb tethering. i gave my team members a log to see if its fixable the other day, but haven't heard anything yet. its no big deal to me unless i wanna use it to tether my pc when our dsl daily cap is reached (which is everyday, but "i" don't use the pc everyday). basically just gave em the log to try and help those who do want/need it.
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It was new for me. And only through the browser. Still connects no problem but after several clicks it will pop up a T-Mobile page saying I don't have the tethering package. I am on Raver's ICS Audiophile.

I was tethering just fine on vacation last week, until I got a text message from T-mobile saying they were blocking it, and sure enough it quit working.
I gotta look into the user agent spoofing I guess... at least before my next trip.
(All three of the hotels I was in were changing $5-10 for internet!)

T-Mobile is on a roll!
Didn't actually think they were gonna give something for nothing did ya.
They know that with strategic planning...(lower the plan price and give you more data)....if they give a little....you'll want more,so now they can ask for more,and sleep soundly when they go to bed at night.

So mine got blocked too, took me a couple of hours last night but found a way around it using Bluetooth Open Garden and VPN combination. Back to free tethering....victory over TMobile!....for now at least.
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htaak said:
So mine got blocked too, took me a couple of hours last night but found a way around it using Bluetooth Open Garden and VPN combination. Back to free tethering....victory over TMobile!....for now at least.
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So using just the VPN client still blocked you??

Yeah, but it's possible that was just because I was trying multiple solutions. I'll look at it again tonight and see if I can substitute the Bluetooth with WiFi and keep it working. I think it might be in my proxy settings....it was late and I was happy to just get access.
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Or you can change the user agent for your browser and just use wifi tethering as you normally would. It is a pretty simple fix.

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Or you can change the user agent for your browser and just use wifi tethering as you normally would. It is a pretty simple fix.
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I thought with Google Chrome you have to have the Developers Tools open for that to persist. Is there a simple way to make it stick without having to have the developer tools window open? Thanks.
Edit: Ok, so tried the APN switch on Google chrome last night and it did work, while the developers tools window is open. Only issue was that some of the sites that my wife uses that have display issues on mobile web now have the same issue on the PC...I'm not talking about page layout, but specific links and options not displaying....the reason she still needs to use the PC in the first place. I can definitely recommend the APN fix to people being blocked by Tmobile as a quick simple fix as previously stated in this thread. It took a little longer to set up, but I'm sticking with the VPN for full functionality.
Regarding the wifi use with VPN; I haven't been able to get it to work yet, so sticking with the Bluetooth for now.
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Nexus 5 ratted me out to T-Mobile for tethering my nexus 7.

I'm using easy tether app with VPN and Bluetooth connection. Kind of slow, makes it seem like working at work is a better idea. Help, any better way to fix that's less clunky
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trjcasper said:
I'm using easy tether app with VPN and Bluetooth connection. Kind of slow, makes it seem like working at work is a better idea. Help, any better way to fix that's less clunky
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I use IbVPN but with another phone. So far it works. I assume any VPN solution would work.

Boy, that is probably the most misleading topic ever.
Anyway, the Nexus 5 has nothing to do with being caught tethering as your carrier can tell you're doing it by the user agent of the browser (the most typical method of detecting tethering) and other ways as well.
As for a workaround, there are several available but there's no guarantee on any of them that you won't get busted even so.
It's a chance you take - the carrier tells you it's against the service agreement and you choose to do it anyway; if you get popped and lose your service, the blame lies solely with you alone.

The user agent in this case is android using dolphin browser. Should appear Amy different than my phone.
I'm not whining, BTW, I'm aware of risk and consequence and adult about it. I'm also cheap, so after having used several nexus phones in the past the exact same way and never getting popped sure makes it look like the 5 is the problem doing the reporting about tether use.
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trjcasper said:
The user agent in this case is android using dolphin browser. Should appear Amy different than my phone.
I'm not whining, BTW, I'm aware of risk and consequence and adult about it. I'm also cheap, so after having used several nexus phones in the past the exact same way and never getting popped sure makes it look like the 5 is the problem doing the reporting about tether use.
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This is bad news. I have always been able to tether any tablet through my Nexus device on Tmobile and browse with the stock browser and Netflix app. I have a feeling, Google is playing dirty and sending T-mobile/provider some kind of notice that tethering is now 'on'. I wish they'd develop an app like they did for Google Glass that proxying packets for ANY tethered device. Stick it to the carrier. Especially, Verizon.

How is the WiFi signal

Wondering if wifi is good on the 5.. I had gotten the s6 and sold it as the WiFi was awful. Wondering if this is an issue. TIA

lmarranzino said:
Wondering if wifi is good on the 5.. I had gotten the s6 and sold it as the WiFi was awful. Wondering if this is an issue. TIA
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My Wifi signal is good.

I am having issues with my WiFi. Slow speeds, frequently dropped signal. Very frustrating. I have noticed multiple signals coming from the same source. So I am going back to try and eliminate those to see if its my phone or my router. I will say these phones do not like multiple signals in an area.
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Thanks. On my s6 it would show a great signal and then say not connected. I never found out if it is the chip or software. So I am just leary . Thanks

lmarranzino said:
Thanks. On my s6 it would show a great signal and then say not connected. I never found out if it is the chip or software. So I am just leary . Thanks
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Edited post due to the post below mine. I deleted that after I read it. Used the OpenDNS solutions the guy was talking about and fixed it. Don't use DNSet.
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I'll just leave this here. Of course decide for yourself.
https://m.reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/3636e4/psa_dnset_app_that_claims_to_fix_wifidns_issues/

Crap. Thanks for the warning.
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Same as s5
I actually have a decent test for wifi. In my house, there's a shop a few (probably 6) hundred feet away, and if I leave my phone searching for wifi signals for a little bit, it powers up the antennas to the point it can pick it up, barely. This was all on my s5. So I figured, if this phone can do it, then it's the same. And I tried today, and it seems to be about the same, maybe a touch better. Which, I think is pretty good considering the difference in materials.