What this will and wont do...
Will...
1. Allow you to run any x86/x64 Windows software from any Android device using the RemoteApp function of Remote RDP.
2. You can use the trackpad and right click of the transformer so most if not all functionality of the native windows app will be available to you.
3. You can create a shortcut for the app directly on you homescreen.
Will not
1. run the program natively in Android
2. run locally (ie you need a network connection)
3. grant you super powers
Requirements:
1. Remote RDP Paid version by Yongtao Wang (~$10) https://market.android.com/details?id=org.toremote.serversmanager
2. Windows 2003 Server or above machine as RDP Host (If anyone knows how to enable "Run Program on Startup" from the desktop versions of Windows RDP Hosts Let us know. Im actually using Windows Server 2008 for my setup)
3. Slight working knowlege of RDP (I will keep everything as extensive as possible and have screenshots all over but you might need to know a bit of whats going on)
--The average setup will must likely be a Win2008 VM running on your daily desktop dedicated to just this. If you need help just post your question, I monitor this thread regularly and update OP to clarify this more and more.
Instructions:
1. Download and install Remote RDP from Android Market. (Link above)
2. On your Windows Server, enable remote desktop connection. (Note your IP address)
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
2.5 Make sure to install the app on the windows server by going to "Control Panel>Install Application on Terminal Server"
2.7 Then Go to "Administrative Tools>TS RemoteApp Manager" Should look like this
2.9 Note the full path with file name for the app (you will need this later)
3. On TF run Remote RDP and select menu>add
4. Fill in the following
-Host: IP address of windows machine noted earlier
-User/Password/Domain: Optional...this will prompt you when you run the app or if you dont care about security or you have total control then put it there (be aware of risks though...)
-Color: leave alone for now not important
-Screen button: press it and select 1280x750 This resolution works best for TF because of the Android Bar that persists throughout.
-Program: fill in the path to the program excecutable in the box here that you noted from your windows machine... I know I didnt mention earlier. Ill edit again later.
-Name: use this to name what you want your shortcut to be named on your homescreen (not shown on screenshot)
My example
5. Hit back button
6. Select your app to test it (Ill add more test steps when I edit again...ie you should test if RDP is working before filling in program etc. This is just first draft to get the faster people up and running noawz!)
7. If your app runs good...back out of it using HC back button. BTW, this is full Excel on Android! with usage of TF Trackpad and right click...
7.5 Save to TF Storage (in the options if you notice that there was a check box for "SD Card" it actually mounts your internal storage to the Remote Server and allows you to save to it!
8. Longpress your app and select "Home screen shortcut".
More Info to come...please comment on your experience with this. I will answer troubleshooting questions too.
Thanks to...
- Azhad for his Thread earlier today "RDP Terminal service client, with FULL trackpad and external mouse support" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136359
- Yongtao Wang for his mastery of RDP...Check out his other work. I think they have a full working secure HTML 5 RDP Client.
Reserved for more info.
Just looking for confirmation.
This is different from logmein and splashtop in that once you connect you are creating a shortcut on the TF desktop to a specific program on the Windows machine. And once setup, when you click on the shortcut it auto starts RDP and opens the windows app only in the RDP window on the TF so you are virtually using the program from windows as opposed to controlling the entire windows desktop from within RDP?
i wonder if this could be used to say play videos from the host computer. Or maybe netflix.
While PhoneMyPC is slightly more expensive I think it's quite a bit better than your method above. It's a bit more versatile and I get a faster response time with it (over wifi) than RDP on my TF.
Each to their own though ofc.
proplayer44 said:
Just looking for confirmation.
This is different from logmein and splashtop in that once you connect you are creating a shortcut on the TF desktop to a specific program on the Windows machine. And once setup, when you click on the shortcut it auto starts RDP and opens the windows app only in the RDP window on the TF so you are virtually using the program from windows as opposed to controlling the entire windows desktop from within RDP?
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Yes. This is virtually using the program from windows from within your TF. Basically you are running an x86/64 app from a personal cloud!
Side note: I was testing and googling to get it to run programs residing on an xp machine and couldnt get it to work and couldnt googforce my way through it. If anyone finds a way to "Run application on startup" from an RDP session with an XP host please share. I will update OP with the info. (Guess its Windows Server 2003 and up for now)
JMQUINT00 said:
i wonder if this could be used to say play videos from the host computer. Or maybe netflix.
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Yes. Give it a try. You will need to set colors and have it be local network. Dont know RDP performance for video over WAN but guessing it will suffer due to overhead. Also over LAN may not be optimum. You may want to just convert or use some type of VLC streaming or something like that. I dont know how to do that but someone might post a link later if they know.
stuntdouble said:
While PhoneMyPC is slightly more expensive I think it's quite a bit better than your method above. It's a bit more versatile and I get a faster response time with it (over wifi) than RDP on my TF.
Each to their own though ofc.
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Does this open just a windows program alone with no desktop and allow use of trackpad and rightclick? If not then you dont understand the purpose of this thread (no disrespect). I currently use Logmein and WYSE Pocket Cloud for the functionality you speak of "Plain old connection" to remote PC, but what this thread is about primarily is the usage of an x86/64 app from windows on Android in a simulated fashion that makes it virtually seemless as and Android app. Try it out, you will see the difference. Use Word or excel as an example.
nothing happened. tried windows 7 and server 2008, it would remote in and do nothing. tried to open IE, couldnt get it any way I tried.
daweiteh said:
Does this open just a windows program alone with no desktop and allow use of trackpad and rightclick? If not then you dont understand the purpose of this thread (no disrespect). I currently use Logmein and WYSE Pocket Cloud for the functionality you speak of "Plain old connection" to remote PC, but what this thread is about primarily is the usage of an x86/64 app from windows on Android in a simulated fashion that makes it virtually seemless as and Android app. Try it out, you will see the difference. Use Word or excel as an example.
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Yes you can do via their 'execute actions' which lets you run any command line code. I've not tried to run anything at startup using this though. It lets you use usb mice, the trackpad, etc. I'm not sure if every piece of software can be run so it feels seemless or not but it's probably possible with it.
dude2k5 said:
nothing happened. tried windows 7 and server 2008, it would remote in and do nothing. tried to open IE, couldnt get it any way I tried.
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I will update OP with more info on the windows side of it. Dont know if 7 will work but 2008 is great. (meant to rhyme)
When you save, where do the files save to?
newtybar said:
When you save, where do the files save to?
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See OP at step 7.5
I just added this because you asked a very good question and even I didnt know until checking it out. This is getting better and better...
Only Windows Server 2003/2008 will let you launch individual apps, normal version don't have Terminal Server and remote apps. Those who want such functionality should consider running Windows Server 2008 with VMware Workstation or VirtualBox.
RemoteApp Manager was the key. Worked once I got that. Thanks a lot for the screenshots. So awesome!
edit: also, found this but I couldnt get it to work with my desktop. I have yet to try a fresh install though. I will try at work next week. http://geekswithblogs.net/twickers/archive/2009/12/18/137048.aspx
Might be a stupid question, guys:
Has anyone tried this over 3G? If so, how does it perform?
Through using SplashtopHD, my Transformer is becoming my work machine (as i connect to my desktop at home)... this works well, although the lack of proper mouse support can be frustrating.
If this works over 3G, it even sounds like the right-click on the keyboard dock / touchpad would work...
Can someone confirm this will work in windows 7 pro?
Trevor_g said:
Might be a stupid question, guys:
Has anyone tried this over 3G? If so, how does it perform?
Through using SplashtopHD, my Transformer is becoming my work machine (as i connect to my desktop at home)... this works well, although the lack of proper mouse support can be frustrating.
If this works over 3G, it even sounds like the right-click on the keyboard dock / touchpad would work...
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This works over 3G just set colors accordingly if you have bandwidth issues. This works better than Splashtop.
Curtisbeef said:
Can someone confirm this will work in windows 7 pro?
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RDP inherently works on win7pro just like XP. The solution for running just the app without the desktop will only work with the server versions AFIK.
daweiteh said:
RDP inherently works on win7pro just like XP. The solution for running just the app without the desktop will only work with the server versions AFIK.
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Will running just the app work on Windows 7 Ultimate? Thats not considered a server version is it?
Id really love to see a way to do this without running a old operating system...
Curtisbeef said:
Will running just the app work on Windows 7 Ultimate? Thats not considered a server version is it?
Id really love to see a way to do this without running a old operating system...
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You can use windows 7 ultimate for rdp but the remote app functionality is part of terminal services in the server os. Win 2008R2 is the Server version of Win 7. It is the latest server edition and came out with 7.
Build in Release mode try it (click on the button and observe it break out of the sandbox and pop up a dialog on your desktop), then run the Windows App Cert kit on it (don't click anything while running), and observe that it passes the automated tests.
I have developed an exploit which can break out of the sandboxed Windows 8 app environment, and pass the automated stage of the store validation procedure (Windows App Cert kit on my local computer). Please see the disclaimer in the mainpage file.
This exploit sample runs as a Windows 8 app and pops up a dialog box in desktop mode.
This goes to show, the Windows 8 sandbox is NOT A VM and users should not blindly trust Windows 8 apps. Note that you should not actually use this in store apps. If you were to get caught using this, your app would certainly be removed from the store and you would most likely be permanently banned from uploading any more Windows 8 apps to the store. This is intended as a proof-of-concept, nothing more.
Hi,
I started experimenting with this idea. I have WP8 files extracted from a firmware file. I copied these files to my surface RT. I was able to run some WP8 applications out of the box. however, applications that require UIXmobile.dll (WP GUI) failed to run. Now both WP8 and W8 share the NT core. so some libraries would just work. now the main WP8 library UIXmobile.dll doesn't work out of the box. as it uses a different function to create the gui for its applications.
I was thinking of something similar to what has been done by "mamaich", to implement a library that will replace the WP8 call wtith the standard W8 call (for example: use createProcess instead of createApplication) and pass the common calls to the already implemented APIs.
sadly , It's a very difficult task for me to do. I'll be spending time on it but i can't promise of any fast results.
I'd like to thank the authors of these threads for their wonderful work:
1. Running x86 apps on WinRT devices (by mamaich)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095934
2. RT Jailbreak Tool (By netham45 )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092158
3. Desktop apps ported to Windows RT (by GoodDayToDie)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348
4. (FFU) ImgMount Tool v.1.0.15 (by AnDim)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2066903
Which apps worked without tinkering?
Oh, very cool idea. It would probably only work for actual WP8 apps at first (not WP7.x apps, as those would require either a Silverlight or XNA runtime), but the idea has merit for sure. It was speculated for a long time that running WP8 apps on Win8/Windows RT would be possible, as both are written against the WinRT API, but that never happened. If we can make it happen ourselves, though... that would be awesome.
Of course, ideally we'd want to be able to access the store, since there aren't a lot of WP8 app packages floating around where we could use them. That's probably a very tricky problem in and of itself, although you could try extracting the store EXE and seeing what is required to make it work...
I think windows phone(os) is just a min gui shell for windows rt.so its possible to run the shell in windows rt.and maybe a windows phone can run windows rt.
windowsrtc said:
I think windows phone(os) is just a min gui shell for windows rt.
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Not exactly. It's the same shell (well, the next rev) that was running on top of wince for WP7.
Is it an alternate shell (like Explorer), or a totally separate graphics subsystem?
Boomchaos said:
Which apps worked without tinkering?
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there is a program called telwp.exe that was able to reach a certain point. I attached a screen shot of 3 different apps. 2 apps showed something before crashing (telwp, nokia_security). and the third app crashed with an error message. other wp apps usually crash silently leaving an error message about a faulty CoreUi.dll in the evenlog .
i want to delete all history and most recently used files in the pdf viewer metro app on the surface. i can not find on the pro where these lists are kept so that i can delete them and also to stop them making these lists.
this is the only metro app i use , i do everything via the desktop .
hope someone knows where they hide this info.
if this should be in the win8 forum please move.
many thanks.
win8.1 surface pro 1
It should probably be in the Win8 general forum, yeah, since it has nothing to do with Surface devices per se.
With that said, unless it's an option in the Settings for the app (open the app, then use the Settings charm), the only way that I know of to do this is to remove and re-install the app. That's obviously a pain, and not really sustainable. You could scrub it manually - it'll be stored in local app data, almost certainly, so a script could take care of it easily - but that's kind of a pain to write...
i have just been given a rt 8.1 for work but unknowingly my boss didn't realise Microsoft access database cant be used. I also cant use the rt wirelessly and run it off a desktop.
is there any alternative apps that can open the access format. I have installed the jailbreak 1.2 if that helps.
I need it for tomorrow so any help be amazing.