Hi,
I started experimenting with this idea. I have WP8 files extracted from a firmware file. I copied these files to my surface RT. I was able to run some WP8 applications out of the box. however, applications that require UIXmobile.dll (WP GUI) failed to run. Now both WP8 and W8 share the NT core. so some libraries would just work. now the main WP8 library UIXmobile.dll doesn't work out of the box. as it uses a different function to create the gui for its applications.
I was thinking of something similar to what has been done by "mamaich", to implement a library that will replace the WP8 call wtith the standard W8 call (for example: use createProcess instead of createApplication) and pass the common calls to the already implemented APIs.
sadly , It's a very difficult task for me to do. I'll be spending time on it but i can't promise of any fast results.
I'd like to thank the authors of these threads for their wonderful work:
1. Running x86 apps on WinRT devices (by mamaich)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095934
2. RT Jailbreak Tool (By netham45 )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092158
3. Desktop apps ported to Windows RT (by GoodDayToDie)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348
4. (FFU) ImgMount Tool v.1.0.15 (by AnDim)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2066903
Which apps worked without tinkering?
Oh, very cool idea. It would probably only work for actual WP8 apps at first (not WP7.x apps, as those would require either a Silverlight or XNA runtime), but the idea has merit for sure. It was speculated for a long time that running WP8 apps on Win8/Windows RT would be possible, as both are written against the WinRT API, but that never happened. If we can make it happen ourselves, though... that would be awesome.
Of course, ideally we'd want to be able to access the store, since there aren't a lot of WP8 app packages floating around where we could use them. That's probably a very tricky problem in and of itself, although you could try extracting the store EXE and seeing what is required to make it work...
I think windows phone(os) is just a min gui shell for windows rt.so its possible to run the shell in windows rt.and maybe a windows phone can run windows rt.
windowsrtc said:
I think windows phone(os) is just a min gui shell for windows rt.
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Not exactly. It's the same shell (well, the next rev) that was running on top of wince for WP7.
Is it an alternate shell (like Explorer), or a totally separate graphics subsystem?
Boomchaos said:
Which apps worked without tinkering?
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there is a program called telwp.exe that was able to reach a certain point. I attached a screen shot of 3 different apps. 2 apps showed something before crashing (telwp, nokia_security). and the third app crashed with an error message. other wp apps usually crash silently leaving an error message about a faulty CoreUi.dll in the evenlog .
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i love ubuntu on my laptop but cant play with it much cuz im in photoshop most the time so am mostly in windows. i was wondering how it was on the gtab? and how to apps work with it? i assume no android market? can anyone give me some pros and cons? and how does it work with the touch screen?
Following work done on the vega, I've gotten ubuntu 11.04 running. You have to use the 2.6.32 kernel and touchscreen works. I'm trying to sort out why wireless and sound do not work. The vega folks have made much more headway at this time but they have several linux distros running on the tab.
it sounds very promising, but until the wifi is working, i can't see this as a viable os. What do you think? The lack of connectivity makes the device a stand alone - right?
I have added the driver for a usb ethernet dongle and it works. As time allows, I'm trying to sort out the wireless issue.
Considering how useful ubuntu is, if you can get everything to work with ubuntu, I'm putting ubuntu on as soon as I get the gtab.
I'm not really sure what the point of putting Ubuntu on the GTab is. I suppose there are linux apps that just aren't available in Android, but most of those are the heavy hitting apps that you'd never want to run on the GTab anyway. just trying to figure out what the point is.
There are things you can do with a linux load that android cannot do. And being a risc processor, it can do more in less memory than on a x86 processor. I want to be able to run librioffice on the tab at meetings rather than having to depend on a wireless connection to the cloud.
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There are things you can do with a linux load that android cannot do. And being a risc processor, it can do more in less memory than on a x86 processor. I want to be able to run librioffice on the tab at meetings rather than having to depend on a wireless connection to the cloud.
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Have you seen the "office" apps available in this forum, that came from the Notion Ink? You can do that with Android. That's kind of my point. The apps exist for the most part... Unless you want to run GIMP or some sort of CAD, which is silly to run on a tablet to start with *I* personally think.
You could theoretically install Eclipse/Android SDK and develop on the tablet.
Support usb modem $ ethernet Android -No, Linux -yes
Support cut/past between pdf and odf docs -- Android No Linux -yes
Ability to use the same linux apps that are on my netbook -- Android -No
Faster program action in linux not inside the java VM in android.
And Google may have several legal issues about stripping out the GPL2 headers out of source code.
If you want android and it's apps, that's fine. There are those of us who want a full OS and apps on our tabs. We'll work to get what we want running the way we want. Try that with an Ipad.
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I'm not really sure what the point of putting Ubuntu on the GTab is. I suppose there are linux apps that just aren't available in Android, but most of those are the heavy hitting apps that you'd never want to run on the GTab anyway. just trying to figure out what the point is.
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Because some of us are considering using the gtab for work. I'm sure most people see it as a toy. I intend to use it for much more than a toy. A full os like ubuntu will get the job done.
unfortunately not a full OS
Look I want Ubuntu as much as anyone and I am starting my own business in Photography so another one for the work aspect...
However, it will be limited and not a full OS at least IMO until Ubuntu on the Gtablet can:
run wine (optional but not necessary) may not even work at all since wine is for windows programs and gtab is arm processor
have Flash for video and the web (would this idea have a chance at working http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=994433)
able to connect--read and hopefully write to CD/DVD (obviously drivers needed)
there are other limitations that we will discover too I am sure but without at least the last two from above, Ubuntu on the Gtablet will not be a full OS, a darn handy mobile one but not a full one IMO!
thanks NMCBR600 for your work on this and jersacct whos version (no touch screen has wireless) I am currently using.
I am greatly hoping NMCBR600 gets wireless going on his so I can get touch going on my tablet. Sorry that I may have ideas of my own and love what the Devs come up with here but I am helpless to do any of this myself because I am not that advanced, wish I was, I wish I was.
doihaveto said:
run wine (optional but not necessary) may not even work at all since wine is for windows programs and gtab is arm processor
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Actually, I can live without wine. I've never had to use it.
have Flash for video and the web (would this idea have a chance at working http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=994433)
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No problem, me thinks.
able to connect--read and hopefully write to CD/DVD (obviously drivers needed)
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USB to external drive.
true about usb external drive but in my photography business I plan to be giving customers who pay for the option a cd/dvd with everything they order on it and so hence the cd/dvd function
and the flash part is there any dev who may happen to read this thread have any ideas to get flash working on arm ubuntu
thanks
Hellburger said:
You could theoretically install Eclipse/Android SDK and develop on the tablet.
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This is actually something that I would want (Eclipse), so touche.
doihaveto said:
run wine (optional but not necessary) may not even work at all since wine is for windows programs and gtab is arm processor
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This actually just opened my eyes to a new potential... VMWare has already shown VM's running on Android. Running a Linux VM from within Android would be utterly awesome.
wine will probably never make it to Android, because of the processor architecture issue... well, at least until vendors start shipping x86 tablets that run on recent Android versions (Wind River is working on it)
doihaveto said:
true about usb external drive but in my photography business I plan to be giving customers who pay for the option a cd/dvd with everything they order on it and so hence the cd/dvd function
and the flash part is there any dev who may happen to read this thread have any ideas to get flash working on arm ubuntu
thanks
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But we're talking about a tablet. They have to keep the thickness around half an inch. So, I suspect that no tablet will ever have an internal cd/dvd drive. Just get an external one and carry that around. DVDs are cheaper than dirt these days anyway.
that us what I mean I have an external usb dvdrw drive but ubuntu on the gtablet will not mount anything off of it in other words it will not read/write off of the usb external drive
I can only hope that support will be able to be added with proper drivers unfortunately I don't know how that works so it won't be coming from me.
With the iso support compiled for the kernel, a linux load will see a cd/dvd. It may need external power as the tab may not provide enough through the usb port.
i have to concur
While android is a great tool for social apps, email, light webbrowsing. It fails at something as simple as copying an address from a website to spread sheet. The programs for linux are far more robust. Actually where is android gimp? The touch screen does not work as a mouse. And the key board is missing things as simple as ctrl left tohighlight
I've tried everything, are people who use OSX left behind? I can't root and I want to! Is there a solution?
Well I can only speak from little experience with rooting but it seems that you either have to use Boot Camp to install Windows on a partition on your HDD or either using VMWare or some other VM program to install windows on your mac.
Either way it is sad that we have to install that POS Operating System.
I agree with you though.....we should not be left in the dark because we run a superior Operating System rather than Windows.
dwnload windows 7 ISO(100% legal as Microsoft has download links), create small partition and install windows 7. This will give u a 30 day trial. Root it, then delete the windows partition once you boot back into osx
Or try vmware player and see if you can send through the USB device
Btw wrong section, this is a general question
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dwnload windows 7 ISO(100% legal as Microsoft has download links), create small partition and install windows 7. This will give u a 30 day trial. Root it, then delete the windows partition once you boot back into osx
Or try vmware player and see if you can send through the USB device
Btw wrong section, this is a general question
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LOL woops I thought this was general *is a space case* and I can't install win7 because as of the moment I can only use my mom's OSX computer. I'll just have to wait until I can fix my windows computer.
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I agree with you though.....we should not be left in the dark because we run a superior Operating System rather than Windows.
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LOL
OT: I'm a computer programmer by trade, and I recently had to port some code I originally programmed in Windows to OSX, and I can tell you that OSX is one of THE least intuitive interfaces I have ever worked with, and I have various flavors of Linux/Ubuntu running at home as well. It's like they are trying to be different just to be "not Windows." Resizing a window using ONLY one corner? WTF is that? Fast switching only between running programs and being f'ed if said program is running multiple windows and the window you want is behind another one who's "resizing corner" is off to the side? Again, WTF?
You basically have to be completely bought in to their dumbed down interface to be comfortable with it.
Anywho.
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OT: I'm a computer programmer by trade, and I recently had to port some code I originally programmed in Windows to OSX, and I can tell you that OSX is one of THE least intuitive interfaces I have ever worked with, and I have various flavors of Linux/Ubuntu running at home as well. It's like they are trying to be different just to be "not Windows." Resizing a window using ONLY one corner? WTF is that? Fast switching only between running programs and being f'ed if said program is running multiple windows and the window you want is behind another one who's "resizing corner" is off to the side? Again, WTF?
You basically have to be completely bought in to their dumbed down interface to be comfortable with it.
Anywho.
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Yea, I'm gonna close this. Desktop OS flame war doesn't have anything to do with phones.
Salutations folks,
Before you get ready to get your flame on, I'm NOT asking about the STATUS of a RT Windows 8.1 Jailbreak. I'm posting about jailbreaks in general. I'm from a linux/android background. I got an Asus Vivotab RT LTE (AT&T version) for a steal off 1Sale. Before I even looked into doing anything with my tablet, I updated it to 8.1. Then I finally got around to looking into running desktop apps on Windows RT (not knowing how it all worked with RT vs desktop), I ran into the issue of not being able to run them (duh, right?). Then I found out about jailbreaking. So.. do you HAVE to jailbreak to run desktop apps? As I understand it, we currently have to run 8.0 to jailbreak/run desktop apps, yes? Well.. I obtained the Asus recovery files to downgrade my 8.1 to 8.0. On a whim, I updated my 8.1 with the 8.1 big spring update (basicly 8.1.1). I seem to be able to run some of the ported desktop apps without any problem. Am I missing something? How'd my tablet manage that without having run the jailbreak? And jailbreak doesn't work on 8.1 anyways? Before anyone says I'm full of it.. (you can click the thumbnail for full pic)
(windows rt 8.1 with 8.1 spring update installed)
(windows rt 8.1 running desktop 7zip)
(windows rt 8.1 running desktop putty)
(windows rt 8.1 running desktop notepad++)
Can anyone clarify if I'm missing something or I've come across an anomaly or even a blessed relief?
Thanks.
This is sure amazing
1. Can you run *any* unsigned application or only a few work (and the rest throw signature errors?)
2. Check the status of Secure Boot in PowerShell. Run as admin, "Get-SecureBootPolicy", press enter (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj603043.aspx)
3. Could you detail exactly your process? I understand that you did the following:
(On 8.1) Run unsigned desktop app, fail with digital signature error.
(Downgrade) Downgrade to 8.0 -> (On 8.0) Run Jailbreak -> Run Desktop Apps and they work.
(Upgrade) Upgrade to Windows RT 8.1 (via Store?) -> Upgrade to 8.1.1 (Spring Update) via Windows Update -> Run Desktop Apps and they work (partly or all of them?)
4. I'm not sure if it'd be any useful, but perhaps you could look in your EFI system partition (mountvol S: /s) as there has been a previous report of Asus leaving debug tools in VivoTab RTs before (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477285). If you could retrieve a "debug" version of Secure Boot Policy from your EFI partition then it means that Secure Boot has just disabled itself on your tablet. It's highly unlikely, however, since you weren't able to run desktop apps in your original 8.1 install...
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This is sure amazing
1. Can you run *any* unsigned application or only a few work (and the rest throw signature errors?)
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I only grabbed the ported Putty, 7zip and Notepad++ desktop apps as those were the only ones that I was needing.. Oh I recently grabbed the FileZilla one too. All ran without any problems and never got any signature errors. Hell.. even my 7zip integrated into the shell and replaced archive icons with 7zip archive icons and opens my archives by default with the desktop app. Were there any particular applications you wanted me to try so that I can see if I can replicate any signature errors?
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Check the status of Secure Boot in PowerShell. Run as admin, "Get-SecureBootPolicy", press enter (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj603043.aspx)
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SecureBoot is enabled and it displays a Publisher GUID. Confirm-SecureBootUEFI confirms SecureBoot is enabled too.
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3. Could you detail exactly your process? I understand that you did the following:
(On 8.1) Run unsigned desktop app, fail with digital signature error.
(Downgrade) Downgrade to 8.0 -> (On 8.0) Run Jailbreak -> Run Desktop Apps and they work.
(Upgrade) Upgrade to Windows RT 8.1 (via Store?) -> Upgrade to 8.1.1 (Spring Update) via Windows Update -> Run Desktop Apps and they work (partly or all of them?)
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hmm
- Received clean OEM install Vivotab RT LTE with RT 8.0
- Upgrade to Windows RT 8.1 via Store
- (attempted to run some ported desktop apps, received error)
- was going to downgrade back to 8.0 after getting Asus recovery files but instead..
- Upgrade to RT 8.1.1 (Spring Update) via Windows Update
- (attempted to run some ported desktop apps, ran successfully, no errors)
NOTE: Not once had I ever gotten around to downloading or installing the Jailbreak. Is there some way to confirm if I have the jailbreak installed at startup or something?
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4. I'm not sure if it'd be any useful, but perhaps you could look in your EFI system partition (mountvol S: /s) as there has been a previous report of Asus leaving debug tools in VivoTab RTs before (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477285). If you could retrieve a "debug" version of Secure Boot Policy from your EFI partition then it means that Secure Boot has just disabled itself on your tablet. It's highly unlikely, however, since you weren't able to run desktop apps in your original 8.1 install...
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I copied a SecureBootDebugPolicy.p7b (dated 02/13/2014 @ 3:19PM) file from there. From what I was reading, I take it that's a good thing? (click thumbnail for full pic)
SecureBootDebugPolicy in the certificate manager tool
what is the icon that next on the left of action center (bottom-right, triangle flag) and at the right side of OneDrive?
hisoft said:
what is the icon that next on the left of action center (bottom-right, triangle flag) and at the right side of OneDrive?
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USB/SD eject (I have SD card I keep in the slot for extra storage)
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USB/SD eject (I have SD card I keep in the slot for extra storage)
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Good job ASUS :good:
If you were able to retrieve a SecureBootDebugPolicy.p7b that is functional, it probably means that there was a Debug policy on your device at some point? (ref. Original Thread on ASUS). I've just looked into my Surface RT and there's a file with that name too, but it cannot be opened (it's simply an empty 0-byte file) and probably you're another lucky one who has a debug policy. (However it can't be explained why Get-SecureBootPolicy shows that you're using a production policy? Does it show the production policy GUID that TechNet says is normal, or something else? Policies don't disable secure boot, Confirm-SecureBootPolicy showing true is perfectly normal even in debug.)
Would it be possible to share this SecureBootDebugPolicy.p7b and then we'd able to see if there is someone else with a VivoTab RT that could test it? I assume it's locked to your device but it's always worth a try.
Could anyone else with experience working with Secure Boot look into this? While it's probably a lucky isolated case, it's nevertheless promising...
Just to double check: does anybody else have a Vivo Tab RT with 8.1u1 they could check this against? It would be amazing / hilarious if the update disabled signature enforcement. The question would then be whether that was Microsoft's idea or Asus's...
Oh, and one other quick test: grab a built-in program (CMD.EXE or Notepad.EXE, for example) and make a copy of it to somewhere you can edit it (like the desktop). Open the file in a hex editor (if needed, copy it off the tablet first) and change something unimportant, like a few characters in a string (not a file path, more like "is not recognized as an internal or external command..." or some such thing) to some other value that has the same number of characters. Save the file and try running it on the tablet again. The idea is that this will be an EXE with an *invalid* signature (as opposed to just being unsigned) and that would be very surprising if it works... but this whole thing is surprising!
GoodDayToDie said:
Just to double check: does anybody else have a Vivo Tab RT with 8.1u1 they could check this against? It would be amazing / hilarious if the update disabled signature enforcement. The question would then be whether that was Microsoft's idea or Asus's...
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Tried it on a VivoTab RT LTE (AT&T) with u1 -- ran 7z ARM and it failed on signature verification.
I would never run another update on that device. Don't want to patch up the botched update.
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I wonder if there's some way to take a full image of your current installation (possibly using a backup utility?) that can be restored onto other peoples' tablets. Even better would be if the relevant bits could be extracted from your image and carried over to other tablets (such as Surface RTs, Surface 2s, Lumia 2520s, etc.) but that may be harder. Still, worth investigating more...
Was it new or used when you got it? And if it was used, is it possible the original owner JB'd it and it stuck through the update?
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I wonder if there's some way to take a full image of your current installation (possibly using a backup utility?) that can be restored onto other peoples' tablets. Even better would be if the relevant bits could be extracted from your image and carried over to other tablets (such as Surface RTs, Surface 2s, Lumia 2520s, etc.) but that may be harder. Still, worth investigating more...
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Should be able to use dism.exe. Not sure if it will capture the online image, but you can definitely use it in recovery mode. Should be able to capture with new-windowsimage too. Going to try it out real quick and report back... I would choke puppies for this image.
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Okay it you can't capture the online image. You'll need to have a USB drive with enough space to capture the whole thing. Make sure you either suspend bitlocker or make sure you have a copy of the recovery key handy (It's 48 decimal digits).
Boot to the recovery partition (it doesn't matter if it's on the local storage or a USB key - it can even be the same USB key you will copy the disk image to if you have enough free space).
Choose language, troubleshoot, advanced, command prompt (I think - point is, you want a command prompt).
Verify the drive letters are what you expect them to be (internal storage is c, usb disk is d, ramdisk is x).
run: dism /capture-image /ImageFile:d:\winrt81u1.wim /CaptureDir:c:\ /Name:WinRT81U1vivotab
Let it finish. It will take a while. Probably a long time since it's writing to USB 2.0 flash storage. Bet on an hour. You probably want to make sure it's plugged in to power (but you're not writing anything to the local storage, so you won't break anything if it goes dead).
Upload that wim file to skydrive and share it with me!
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Was it new or used when you got it? And if it was used, is it possible the original owner JB'd it and it stuck through the update?
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That is impossible, the 8.0 jailbreak was performed in memory and it not written to the disk.
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That is impossible, the 8.0 jailbreak was performed in memory and it not written to the disk.
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Gotcha, I haven't JB'd mine yet, so I have no idea how it works. Apparently I'm Windows ShmeShmarted and can't make a bootable flash drive that contains the rollback. And coming from android devices where everything sticks except for some very select mods/devices I just figured it might be possible.
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And coming from android devices where everything sticks except for some very select mods/devices I just figured it might be possible.
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Believe me, that's what all RT owners would WANT to have. Although there's many reasons to jailbreak a device, I personally prefer feeling like I've gained full control of hardware I own. The in-memory jailbreak was good, but it didn't have that satisfying feeling of permanence you often get with an Android rooting / OS replacement.
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Believe me, that's what all RT owners would WANT to have. Although there's many reasons to jailbreak a device, I personally prefer feeling like I've gained full control of hardware I own. The in-memory jailbreak was good, but it didn't have that satisfying feeling of permanence you often get with an Android rooting / OS replacement.
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Until the carrier gets to your device and locks the bootloader (AT&T)
I actually preferred the in-memory jailbreak in many ways. It meant we couldn't modify system files or run unsigned code for a couple minutes after boot, but it also meant we could trivially easily "un-jailbreak" and we could install updates with no fear of them destroying anything. Even the huge 8.1 update, which broke the jailbreak *process*, could be started on a device which was already jailbroken without causing any harm (unlike, say, many iOS jailbreaks).
I agree. I liked that the 8.0 jailbreak wasn't permanent but also exceedingly simple to install at boot. It meant that sending my Surface RT back to my Microsoft under warranty had no problems at all.
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I agree. I liked that the 8.0 jailbreak wasn't permanent but also exceedingly simple to install at boot. It meant that sending my Surface RT back to my Microsoft under warranty had no problems at all.
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The in-memory Jailbreak is great when you hard brick your Surface and take it to the Microsoft Store. They just gave me a new one with no problems at all.
If I don't run the jailbreak, I cannot attach or create desktop process using WinDBG.
However under jailbreak everything works fine. I'd like to know why this happen.
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I believe they tried to prevent using the debugger on desktop apps for 8.1. Not sure how thorough it is; most of the time it's not really relevant as it's pretty easy to bypass.
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I believe they tried to prevent using the debugger on desktop apps for 8.1. Not sure how thorough it is; most of the time it's not really relevant as it's pretty easy to bypass.
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I just updated to 8.1 to see how that works out with a old version of WinDBG. It doesn't work either. It seems being related to jailbreak. Curious how that will affect WinDBG.
Its a good question
A year or two back when we were first looking at RT 8.0, the fact that the debugger couldn't start or attached to desktop programs was a big headache
We were having to used the visual studio remote debugger
Then someone discovered that cdb -pv or -pvr would attach, and the opportunities opened up
Presumably normal attaching somehow falls foul of the locked down nature of the system
although strange it cant start existing signed exe's like notepad
or do a normal attach to them
so implies some other check is going on
In RT8.1 its even further tightened down
no admin level VS remote debugger
debugger package (and debug kit policy) cant even -pvr to a process
CORRECTION: yes you still can-pvr to a process
but cant access csrss as it is now protected
xsoliman3 said:
Its a good question
A year or two back when we were first looking at RT 8.0, the fact that the debugger couldn't start or attached to desktop programs was a big headache
We were having to used the visual studio remote debugger
Then someone discovered that cdb -pv or -pvr would attach, and the opportunities opened up
Presumably normal attaching somehow falls foul of the locked down nature of the system
although strange it cant start existing signed exe's like notepad
or do a normal attach to them
so implies some other check is going on
In RT8.1 its even further tightened down
no admin level VS remote debugger
debugger package (and debug kit policy) cant even -pvr to a process
CORRECTION: yes you still can-pvr to a process
but cant access csrss as it is now protected
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You also can't write to the memory on a process if you attach to it.
I've jailbroken my Surface 2 running Windows 8.1 RT and have started downloading and using apps, it's so much better, although I did think they'd install but they just run like portable apps, is that how it's supposed to be?
But that aside, my main query is what's the easiest way to achieve a full operating system on Windows RT? I've downloaded Bosch emulator because it's still being developed whereas QEmu isn't. I installed Bosch on my Surface and downloaded the Linux disk image from http://bochs.sourceforge.net/diskimages.html
Now from here how do I make the emulator run it? I've gone to the start menu, edited the 'Disk & Boot' option to enable ATA Channel 0, checked 'Enable this device' on First HD/CD on channel 0' and browsed to the downloaded .img file to input into the 'Path or physical device name'.
Then once I click Start I get a Panic popup with the message: couldn't open ROM image file'(null)/B....
Anybody else experienced this and have a way around it? I would have thought seeing as I downloaded the file from their website it would be fine.
If no-one has experienced this or has a fix, is there an easier way to emulate a full system?
Thank you
Jailbreak Windows RT on Surface? How?
Like this
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Jailbreak Windows RT on Surface? How?
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