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Will rooting reeally void my warranty?

Hey I have a question about rooting my phone. I just got a new phone a few months ago, and it is still under warranty. I have been thinking about rooting it for a while, as my old phone was rooted. The only problem is that I dont want to void my warranty, and thats when I read a post on here that was talking about it being okay to root your phone. According to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, a company has to prove that you broke your phone because you rooted it. Is this true? My only concern is because all of the companies like T-Mobile and Verizon and all those are atill saying that if you root your phone it automatically voids your warranty. If the act is still saying that they cant void your warranty by rooting it, then why are they still saying it does?

Not if you know how to revert your device to its completely stock state

I usually unroot first if i want to go.ssc but honestly once i got hardbrick on my devices*root condition*..but its fine when checked no void my warranty after all ssc i dont know why... Guess im lucky
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inoe_day said:
I usually unroot first if i want to go.ssc but honestly once i got hardbrick on my devices*root condition*..but its fine when checked no void my warranty after all ssc i dont know why... Guess im lucky
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There have been users in X8 forums that get hard bricked and their warranties were still in effect. Maybe the manufacturers can't check it when it's a hard brick?
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cascabel said:
There have been users in X8 forums that get hard bricked and their warranties were still in effect. Maybe the manufacturers can't check it when it's a hard brick?
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Yeah exactly manufacturers don't check often
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inoe_day said:
I usually unroot first if i want to go.ssc but honestly once i got hardbrick on my devices*root condition*..but its fine when checked no void my warranty after all ssc i dont know why... Guess im lucky
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Yah, normally root will void the warranty. but we can still unroot b4 b4 sending back to SSC like you said. Unless totally brick its depend on the SSC.

Awesome, but if I have an unlocked bootrom?
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monose1 said:
Awesome, but if I have an unlocked bootrom?
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I believe you can revert that, right? (I'm not 100% sure)

About root access

Why compney not give root access by default in android phone

Because then people would mess with system files, brick it, and claim a warranty.
Unrooted you can't do that stuff, and when you root the warranty becomes void
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gagdude said:
Because then people would mess with system files, brick it, and claim a warranty.
Unrooted you can't do that stuff, and when you root the warranty becomes void
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Thank u again brobro

seems reasonable..

viditsr said:
Why compney not give root access by default in android phone
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gagdude said:
Because then people would mess with system files, brick it, and claim a warranty.
Unrooted you can't do that stuff, and when you root the warranty becomes void
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Look at it his way, it would be giving a Pre-Schooler your new super computer without any protection whatsoever... chances are that with his high level of curiosity your HDD will be formatted

Could this phone be repaired ?

Help my fellow xda people I'm about to buy a bricked one step could this problem be resolved?
Thank you for your help in advance
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@Darkmind don't see the issue cuz pictures r not clear enough or enlarged enough on each screen but the one on the left is normal, just can't see what the one on the right says (sorry) also more description would be nice
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The right one is the bootloader, but yeah, cant really tell the important info such as hboot etc.
But how is it bricked? what does it do? What doesnt work etc?
Generally though, if you can get into bootloader you can fix the device, but theres always some exceptions.

AW: Could this phone be repaired ?
It's an service offered on eBay an the owner said that some update went wrong. In my opinion it's totally fixable I add 2 zoomed pics
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AW: Could this phone be repaired ?
Darkmind82 said:
It's an service offered on eBay an the owner said that some update went wrong. In my opinion it's totally fixable I add 2 zoomed pics
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Darkmind82 said:
It's an service offered on eBay an the owner said that some update went wrong. In my opinion it's totally fixable I add 2 zoomed pics
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Again, I don't see anything wrong from that image so what issues are (you) running into cuz your still being unclear and I already mentioned that image with the HTC logo is normal
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Its okay go for it , already an unlocked bootloader
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Just use and follow 'Hasoon's All In One Kit', should be good to go?
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Honestly they probably forgot to fast boot the kernel. Just run a RUU (After you relock the bootlaoder) and request for the Unlock_code.bin from the seller.

Qs5 said:
Honestly they probably forgot to fast boot the kernel. Just run a RUU (After you relock the bootlaoder) and request for the Unlock_code.bin from the seller.
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Don't anyone take this the wrong way including the OP, we night need to instruct in newb terms just so he can get this done.
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From the look of it, all you need to do is flash a recovery(TWRP), flash a rom, fastboot flash the boot.img and you should be good to go.
How to perform each step is listed in several guides already.

im bricked from flashing a kernel, need some help

I tried to flash 5.4 elemental last night and it went stupid and bricked me when it was complete. several users have instructed me to use the jet tool. I have set up the usb ubuntu and have it running but im unsure what any of this means really. when i ran the jet tool i get
[email protected]:~$ cd /home/ubuntu
[email protected]:~$ cd home/ubuntu
bash: cd: home/ubuntu: No such file or directory
[email protected]:~$ cd jet
[email protected]:~/jet$ chmod +x jet
[email protected]:~/jet$ sudo ./jet
JET - Jewel/Evita Toolkit v0.3.3beta
This tool will put backup critical partition data and then put your phone
into QHSUSB mode, where it will then downgrade your HBOOT.
Before running this script, you should have TWRP loaded onto your phone.
Plug your phone in via USB and ensure USB debugging is enabled.
Press Enter to continue...
Preparing...
This phase backs up /dev/block/mmcblk0p4 from your phone to this machine. In
addition, we will fetch your IMEI from the phone and use it to create an
additional partition 4 replacement to use as a failsafe. In the
event something goes wrong, you'll have a way to unbrick manually.
Please stand by...
Backing up mmcblk0p4 to /sdcard/bak4
Rebooting to bootloader...
error: device not found
Getting IMEI value...

Use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966850
If you don't get past Step 3 it's JTAG or repair/replacement.

how do I spam it
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jrlatta said:
how do I spam it
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Press the up arrow on your keyboard to bring up the last command you typed in the terminal, then press enter. Do that over and over. Up, enter, up, enter, up, enter, etc.

I'm not sure what I got but it's something
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jrlatta said:
I'm not sure what I got but it's something
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has to be sd* not s* and you would get 36. you have a short window to catch them so you may not be spamming enough to catch it.
if you dont see those emmc partitions you're full bricked.

Good catch I didn't realize I left the d out, my wife is driving and I'm trying to work on this and its hard to focus
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jrlatta said:
Good catch I didn't realize I left the d out, my wife is driving and I'm trying to work on this and its hard to focus
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No worries. Keep me posted.
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Unless I'm doing it wrong I think she's a goner, I can't get it to show anything other than the same things
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How much does HTC charge to fix it
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If they catch that you unlocked the bootloader, they charge to replace the main board which HTC told me would be around 200$.
JTAG is about 100$
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Is the jet tool useless for me? It kept stopping at getting imei...
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Yes your emmc partition table is gone. Only a jtag or replacement will work
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If I knew someone that could reprogram it I'd consider the j-tag deal but I'm clueless about it
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the lady at att said i got my phone wet and that they couldnt cover it, i was about to get a warranty exchange until she seen my strip was red. i dont ever recall getting it wet and it didnt mess up until i tried to install that kernel. its probably a good thing she seen that though because they would have sent me a new phone and then got my old one and probably seen it was unlocked, or do they see that? if all the partitions are wiped clean and there is no hboot how do they know what happened?

jrlatta said:
the lady at att said i got my phone wet and that they couldnt cover it, i was about to get a warranty exchange until she seen my strip was red. i dont ever recall getting it wet and it didnt mess up until i tried to install that kernel. its probably a good thing she seen that though because they would have sent me a new phone and then got my old one and probably seen it was unlocked, or do they see that? if all the partitions are wiped clean and there is no hboot how do they know what happened?
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You're imei when you unlock it. But we talked about it a bit on here and none of us know for sure how close an eye they keep on that. Sucks about the water. Even sweat or snow or Moist air/steam can turn that thing red so it's a really ****ty indicator of whether or not there's actual water damage.

I have heard of the flash zip partition repair so that you can enter recovery without sd card and flash manually, could something like this be used in this situation?
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Venomtester said:
I have heard of the flash zip partition repair so that you can enter recovery without sd card and flash manually, could something like this be used in this situation?
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Never heard of that. Can you link it?

> Android Development and Hacking > Android Software Development > [recovery-app] Partition scanner (mainly for emmc bricks)
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Venomtester said:
> Android Development and Hacking > Android Software Development > [recovery-app] Partition scanner (mainly for emmc bricks)
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You need recovery for that to work unfortunately and it seems to be related to samsung phones which I'm 90% sure has a different emmc partition table.
With our EMMC bricks you can't get into anything other than QDL mode. Jtag or Replace motherboard only.

How to brick my phone.

First off. My phone is rooted using PwnMyMoto. I have the twrp recovery. I plan to except the newest OTA in an attempt to brick/or make it look as if it is bricked. (Don't ask me why). If I accept the new OTA update right now as I currently have it, would I still be able to boot the phone into twrp? I realize I will bootloop if I try to boot into android. I just want to make sure I won't be able to boot into twrp. If so, could I flash back to the normal stock and still have it boot loop? And if neither of those work. How could I go about bricking my phone the easiest?
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maybe try flashing random files in twrp. flash a GS3 radio or something and see what happens.

Looking for more of a sure thing
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MrTweakers said:
Looking for more of a sure thing
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At the risk of adding to a weird idea, try flashing the boot.IMG from the moto x KitKat fxz. It will (soft)brick and can be recovered by flashing the proper boot.img

How come we can't ask why?
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jfriend33 said:
How come we can't ask why?
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^^^^^this
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I can only assume that the op is looking to get a warranty replacement or an insurance claim for his phone which he probably doesn't want anymore. It seems unethical at best and fraudulent at worst.

stonesaber said:
I can only assume that the op is looking to get a warranty replacement or an insurance claim for his phone which he probably doesn't want anymore. It seems unethical at best and fraudulent at worst.
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Warranty claim? No way. The warranty would be void. Insurance claim? Why not just use an unethical hammer? Lol
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I've bricked a couple of S2's accidentally when I was on Sprint. I told them they were rooted and they replaced them under warranty with no problem. If it's not suspect, then he should say why he wants to brick his phone. Seems fishy, that's all.
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MrTweakers said:
First off. My phone is rooted using PwnMyMoto. I have the twrp recovery. I plan to except the newest OTA in an attempt to brick/or make it look as if it is bricked. (Don't ask me why). If I accept the new OTA update right now as I currently have it, would I still be able to boot the phone into twrp? I realize I will bootloop if I try to boot into android. I just want to make sure I won't be able to boot into twrp. If so, could I flash back to the normal stock and still have it boot loop? And if neither of those work. How could I go about bricking my phone the easiest?
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After it's been rooted, the internal counter is incremented, and any service or warranty center worth a damn will check it when you try to pawn off your "bricked" phone on them.
Thanks for contributing to the locking of bootloaders and increase in warranty and rate charges. We all appreciate it greatly.
As for "bricking it", the best you can do is a soft brick. The bootloader won't allow flashing anything not signed by Motorola, so you really can't mess it up too bad.
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